Center is a harder position to transition to, so maybe the Rangers see him as a wing, assuming he's good enough to make the roster. He's looked good, but AV trashed him last year.
I also wonder whether Haggerty makes it. These kids make the Glass/Stemp signings look even sillier.
Center is a harder position to transition to, so maybe the Rangers see him as a wing, assuming he's good enough to make the roster. He's looked good, but AV trashed him last year.
I also wonder whether Haggerty makes it. These kids make the Glass/Stemp signings look even sillier.
The Stemp signing is low-risk. It's a one year deal for less than a million. I'll take that for a 3rd/4th line veteran, who had 34 points in 73 games. It's a good bargain and I can easily see Stemp putting up more points than he's put up the last few years if he's put on the Zucc/Brassard line.
By contrast, Tanner Glass, who had 13 points in 67 games is going to earn 1.5 million per for the next 3 years. I understand he's a hard-nosed, gritty, work ethic player, but you have plenty of YOUNG guys who can do that at a much cheaper cost...and have way more upside. Awful signing. You shouldn't have to pay a fourth liner 1.5 million...though Sather continues to believe you should and it continues to bite us in the ass.
He played wing throughout college (Arnold was center last year). He has really good size and good skill set but it was almost tough to gauge how much was him and how much was playing on the same line as Johnny hockey who was honestly was best college player I have ever seen in hockey east.
Once again not to say that Hayes can't be a center but it would shock me that he would walk into a situation where he would be set up as one.
Sean Avery: I want to fight someone right now......Who wants to fight me??????
Riddick Bowe: <--I'm in. Bowe. Are you serious because I will do it. No joke. Thats whats up. Bowe. How bout dis u pussy ass bitch @imseanavery take off dem knee pads & ill wipe the dick right out yo mouth.U playin wit the big boys now. Bowe
Sean Avery @imseanavery 11h
@riddickbowe didn't u die of a coke overdose??????
Riddick Bowe @riddickbowe 11h
How bout dis u pussy ass bitch @imseanavery take off dem knee pads & ill wipe the dick right out yo mouth.U playin wit the big boys now.Bowe
Sean Avery @imseanavery 11h
Can someone find out how fat @riddickbowe is now???? @richcluneshow u think he would kill me if he made contact??? Guy must be old as Fu$k
Rich Clune @richcluneshow 11h
@imseanavery @riddickbowe I just googled. It looks like he eats cheeseburgers for a living now so you should be fine.
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U wana piece of dis 2 @richcluneshow I wipe my ass wit lil white boys like u.u not even a match wit shit sittin at the bottom of my toilet. U wanna fuk wit the champ??? I take on both these lover boys at once @imseanavery @richcluneshow Ill make them eat eaachother shit 2. couple of punks talk tuff who fight wit helmets haha. What a bunch of pussys. I would pay to go in the ring wit 1 dem. Thats whats up. Bowe
Hey @BizNasty2point0 (Paul Bissonette) i hope dem punks aint ur friends@richcluneshow @imseanavery they bout 2 get some swollen assholes.Thats whats up. Bowe
Rich Clune @richcluneshow 9h
Most recent pic of @riddickbowe I guess he's not that fat @imseanavery #pigeon pic.twitter.com/XiFP8Su0mj (It was a picture of a pigeon)
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.@richcluneshow stop tryin use my name to gain sum twitter followers.We all no u a no name desposable 4th liner who is lucky 2 have a job. Ur a zero.a nobody.not even worth the strenght i gots 2 use 2 type out this msg.Im losin respect as a human just talkin to u
Sean Avery @imseanavery 20m
So @riddickbowe says"What a bunch of pussys, I would pay to go in the ring wit 1 dem" u can't cause u broke Cuzz @riddickbowe.
Someone tell me what Old Age home @riddickbowe is living at so I can go down there with my hired gun @richcluneshow and beat his old ass. The champ @riddickbowe is sleeping, I feel for the poor women sleeping beside that animal #Bowe I just called out Ya Momma (won't knockuout)
when exactly has it "bitten us in the ass"? Talk about hyperbole. Another day where you harp on Sather after he makes a great move when no one thought he could pull it off, in an offseason following a Cup Final appearance.
Enough.
I can't say enough how glad I was that the Rangers
Kicked Avery's worthless ass to the curb. What a fucking embarrassment he was....and is. I don't care how old and fat Riddick Bowe is, he'd beat Avery to a pulp.
when exactly has it "bitten us in the ass"? Talk about hyperbole. Another day where you harp on Sather after he makes a great move when no one thought he could pull it off, in an offseason following a Cup Final appearance.
Enough.
Let's see:
Donald Brashear
Mike Rupp
Derek Boogaard (RIP)
So how many times are we going to pay big bucks (at least for fourth liners), who are not going to contribute and who are going to be scratched more times than they play?
The Predators' video package for Kevin Hayes was leaked
when exactly has it "bitten us in the ass"? Talk about hyperbole. Another day where you harp on Sather after he makes a great move when no one thought he could pull it off, in an offseason following a Cup Final appearance.
Enough.
Let's see:
Donald Brashear
Mike Rupp
Derek Boogaard (RIP)
So how many times are we going to pay big bucks (at least for fourth liners), who are not going to contribute and who are going to be scratched more times than they play?
Each and every one of those guys was signed for a reason and none of those guys hurt the team's salary structure. It's just a convenient thing to whine about. Glass was likely unnecessary but let's maybe wait to see how he does or how much he plays or how long he stays before we lose our shit over what an atrocious move it was. The organization clearly discussed him as an option and had an idea for what they want him for. So just wait and see maybe?
Yeah, maybe one of the shits Sather throws at the wall will stick
Fine, I'll wait and see if Glass will contribute, but we have little reason to believe that Glass will all of a sudden become a productive, valuable asset.
when exactly has it "bitten us in the ass"? Talk about hyperbole. Another day where you harp on Sather after he makes a great move when no one thought he could pull it off, in an offseason following a Cup Final appearance.
Enough.
Who didn't think he could pull getting Hayes off? That's hyperbole. We were one of the leading candidates for awhile.
Hopefully these two signings (Haggerty and Hayes) could fill in for my perceived holes in the bottom six.
RE: The Predators' video package for Kevin Hayes was leaked
As is usually the case with the NHL, not a lot of logic in the new numbers...
1. why a 6.5% drop from #1 to #2, then just 2% drops...
2. 0.5% drop from 7th to 8th, then 1% drop to 9th, then whopping 1.5% drop to 10th... huh?.... then just 0.5% to 11th, and finally back to a 1% drop between 13th and unlucky #14. No consistency here at all.
Beginning in 2016, like NBA, lottery will determine top 3 picks. But the 2015 draft is the one everyone currently cares about with at least 2 franchise players.
Good news is maybe just maybe this will keep Buffalo from being a dynasty from 2017-2025.
'Who didn't think he could pull getting Hayes off?'
that your chance of a top 1/3 pick be influenced by whether you had a 1-3 pick in one of the past few seasons. Far too many teams are going into total tank mode and loading up on these high #1s, which are huge in hockey. Pens had the 5, 3 (traded to #1), 2, 1, and 2 picks starting in 2002. Chicago's core is based around getting the 3 and 1 picks. The Oilers are on a run of 1, 1, 1, 7 and 3. Florida has had 3, 3, 23, 2, 1. Colorado has gotten the 1, 2, and 3 picks over 5 drafts.
The league really should do more to prevent long term tanking/aggressive youth movements. It is terrible for the sport.
I don't think a lot of these teams are tanking. They just fucking suck.
Top five picks aren't a sure fire way of getting good - look at the Islanders, Panthers, etc. The Penguins/Blackhawks are actually quite rare - and the Hawks also did a great job drafting in the later rounds.
RE: 'Who didn't think he could pull getting Hayes off?'
Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
that your chance of a top 1/3 pick be influenced by whether you had a 1-3 pick in one of the past few seasons. Far too many teams are going into total tank mode and loading up on these high #1s, which are huge in hockey. Pens had the 5, 3 (traded to #1), 2, 1, and 2 picks starting in 2002. Chicago's core is based around getting the 3 and 1 picks. The Oilers are on a run of 1, 1, 1, 7 and 3. Florida has had 3, 3, 23, 2, 1. Colorado has gotten the 1, 2, and 3 picks over 5 drafts.
The league really should do more to prevent long term tanking/aggressive youth movements. It is terrible for the sport.
Nice in theory, but practically impossible to implement i would imagine. Far too many 'special and unique' circumstances, and what not. The bigger issue for me is why true cornerstone players, such as Sydney Crosby, don't get paid more money per year than they do. The individual salary cap should be a lot higher than it is. Would prevent these teams from staying elite for too long (basically, in case this isnt clear - i'm talking primarily about the Penguins because I hate them)
Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
its hilarious to watch the hockey media and fans lose their shit completely because this guy didn't sign there and came to NY instead. THis is clearly the first player to ever not sign with the team that drafted him. Or not. Well this is clearly the first player who left a good team to go to another in free agency. Or not.
And while playing with the best player in NCAA hockey over the last two decades or so doesn't hurt, those who saw Hayes a lot last year for me, it was 15 times live know that wasn't the case. Even before they were put together on Dec. 6, Hayes put up a mere 21 points in 14 games by lugging inferior linemates to success. Thus, with Gaudreau, his points per game went up by just 0.19, a little less than 13 percent. Point being: He was a star no matter who he played with.
This misconception probably comes from Hayes having only posted 67 points in his career prior to this past season, in 102 games. Nearly doubling your career output in a single season usually draws out the doubters, but the numbers suggest he wasn't lucky, and the actual game-watching suggests he wasn't merely a product of Gaudreau. The improvement came because he realized that at 6-foot-3 and 205 pounds, he didn't have to try to finesse his way around guys who were as much as three or four years older than him.
Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
its hilarious to watch the hockey media and fans lose their shit completely because this guy didn't sign there and came to NY instead. THis is clearly the first player to ever not sign with the team that drafted him. Or not. Well this is clearly the first player who left a good team to go to another in free agency. Or not.
Eat a dick, media.
Hockey media has been atrocious of late. Perhaps I've just read more recently given our run, but it's pathetic. Like they don't watch the games or (in this case) don't understand how things work.
Don't know what that's all about, but the dickbag who wrote that the Penguins series was lost at 3-1, then predicted the Rangers would lose to Montreal, then predicted a Kings sweep....yeah, that asshole writes for THN too.
Don't know what that's all about, but the dickbag who wrote that the Penguins series was lost at 3-1, then predicted the Rangers would lose to Montreal, then predicted a Kings sweep....yeah, that asshole writes for THN too.
And the idea perpetuated that we got steamrolled by the Kings - despite pushing 3 games to OT. Wasn't a blowout.
The article mentions that Hayes had some disciplinary problems too...
Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
its hilarious to watch the hockey media and fans lose their shit completely because this guy didn't sign there and came to NY instead. THis is clearly the first player to ever not sign with the team that drafted him. Or not. Well this is clearly the first player who left a good team to go to another in free agency. Or not.
Eat a dick, media.
Amen...though I still hate Justin Schultz for spurning us. No one puts Slats in a corner!
RE: RE: THN has been full of snark towards the Rangers lately
Don't know what that's all about, but the dickbag who wrote that the Penguins series was lost at 3-1, then predicted the Rangers would lose to Montreal, then predicted a Kings sweep....yeah, that asshole writes for THN too.
And the idea perpetuated that we got steamrolled by the Kings - despite pushing 3 games to OT. Wasn't a blowout.
anything is more funny that going to ESPn and TSN and reading comments from people who are whining about the Rangers "typically overspending" for a college free agent who we are paying under 1 mil per year and who could have gone anywhere.
I thought so too. I thought he'd compete with Stempniak and Fast for playing on the Brassard/Zuccarello line.
Maybe it means they're keeping JT Miller at the wing
I also wonder whether Haggerty makes it. These kids make the Glass/Stemp signings look even sillier.
Hayes is gonna play center here. That's what I think is most likely. And it's a good idea too because We need size at tthat spot and he gives us that.
I also wonder whether Haggerty makes it. These kids make the Glass/Stemp signings look even sillier.
The Stemp signing is low-risk. It's a one year deal for less than a million. I'll take that for a 3rd/4th line veteran, who had 34 points in 73 games. It's a good bargain and I can easily see Stemp putting up more points than he's put up the last few years if he's put on the Zucc/Brassard line.
By contrast, Tanner Glass, who had 13 points in 67 games is going to earn 1.5 million per for the next 3 years. I understand he's a hard-nosed, gritty, work ethic player, but you have plenty of YOUNG guys who can do that at a much cheaper cost...and have way more upside. Awful signing. You shouldn't have to pay a fourth liner 1.5 million...though Sather continues to believe you should and it continues to bite us in the ass.
And I think he has a two way contract? I could be wrong.
Did he play C at BC? I recall him at wing the two times I saw him.
Once again not to say that Hayes can't be a center but it would shock me that he would walk into a situation where he would be set up as one.
Sean Avery: I want to fight someone right now......Who wants to fight me??????
Riddick Bowe: <--I'm in. Bowe. Are you serious because I will do it. No joke. Thats whats up. Bowe. How bout dis u pussy ass bitch @imseanavery take off dem knee pads & ill wipe the dick right out yo mouth.U playin wit the big boys now. Bowe
Sean Avery @imseanavery 11h
@riddickbowe didn't u die of a coke overdose??????
Riddick Bowe @riddickbowe 11h
How bout dis u pussy ass bitch @imseanavery take off dem knee pads & ill wipe the dick right out yo mouth.U playin wit the big boys now.Bowe
Sean Avery @imseanavery 11h
Can someone find out how fat @riddickbowe is now???? @richcluneshow u think he would kill me if he made contact??? Guy must be old as Fu$k
Rich Clune @richcluneshow 11h
@imseanavery @riddickbowe I just googled. It looks like he eats cheeseburgers for a living now so you should be fine.
Riddick BoweVerified account
@riddickbowe
U wana piece of dis 2 @richcluneshow I wipe my ass wit lil white boys like u.u not even a match wit shit sittin at the bottom of my toilet. U wanna fuk wit the champ??? I take on both these lover boys at once @imseanavery @richcluneshow Ill make them eat eaachother shit 2. couple of punks talk tuff who fight wit helmets haha. What a bunch of pussys. I would pay to go in the ring wit 1 dem. Thats whats up. Bowe
Hey @BizNasty2point0 (Paul Bissonette) i hope dem punks aint ur friends@richcluneshow @imseanavery they bout 2 get some swollen assholes.Thats whats up. Bowe
Rich Clune @richcluneshow 9h
Most recent pic of @riddickbowe I guess he's not that fat @imseanavery #pigeon pic.twitter.com/XiFP8Su0mj (It was a picture of a pigeon)
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@riddickbowe
.@richcluneshow stop tryin use my name to gain sum twitter followers.We all no u a no name desposable 4th liner who is lucky 2 have a job. Ur a zero.a nobody.not even worth the strenght i gots 2 use 2 type out this msg.Im losin respect as a human just talkin to u
Sean Avery @imseanavery 20m
So @riddickbowe says"What a bunch of pussys, I would pay to go in the ring wit 1 dem" u can't cause u broke Cuzz @riddickbowe.
Someone tell me what Old Age home @riddickbowe is living at so I can go down there with my hired gun @richcluneshow and beat his old ass. The champ @riddickbowe is sleeping, I feel for the poor women sleeping beside that animal #Bowe I just called out Ya Momma (won't knockuout)
Enough.
Enough.
Let's see:
Donald Brashear
Mike Rupp
Derek Boogaard (RIP)
So how many times are we going to pay big bucks (at least for fourth liners), who are not going to contribute and who are going to be scratched more times than they play?
Link - ( New Window )
Quote:
when exactly has it "bitten us in the ass"? Talk about hyperbole. Another day where you harp on Sather after he makes a great move when no one thought he could pull it off, in an offseason following a Cup Final appearance.
Enough.
Let's see:
Donald Brashear
Mike Rupp
Derek Boogaard (RIP)
So how many times are we going to pay big bucks (at least for fourth liners), who are not going to contribute and who are going to be scratched more times than they play?
Each and every one of those guys was signed for a reason and none of those guys hurt the team's salary structure. It's just a convenient thing to whine about. Glass was likely unnecessary but let's maybe wait to see how he does or how much he plays or how long he stays before we lose our shit over what an atrocious move it was. The organization clearly discussed him as an option and had an idea for what they want him for. So just wait and see maybe?
Thanks, you too. L2 is much harder than L1 IMO. I didn't start studying hard until March for L2, and I should've started earlier.
Enough.
Who didn't think he could pull getting Hayes off? That's hyperbole. We were one of the leading candidates for awhile.
Hopefully these two signings (Haggerty and Hayes) could fill in for my perceived holes in the bottom six.
In comment 11817371 Anakim said:
Worst team in league: Was 25% -> now 20%
2nd worst: 18.8% -> 13.5%
3rd: 14.2% -> 11.5%
4th: 10.7% -> 9.5%
5th: 8.1% -> 8.5%
6th: 6.2 -> 7.5%
7th: 4.7% -> 6.5%
8th: 3.6% -> 6.0%
9th: 2.7% -> 5.0%
10th: 2.1% -> 3.5%
11th: 1.5% -> 3.0%
12th: 1.1% -> 2.5%
13th: 0.8% -> 2.0%
14th: 0.5% -> 1.0%
As is usually the case with the NHL, not a lot of logic in the new numbers...
1. why a 6.5% drop from #1 to #2, then just 2% drops...
2. 0.5% drop from 7th to 8th, then 1% drop to 9th, then whopping 1.5% drop to 10th... huh?.... then just 0.5% to 11th, and finally back to a 1% drop between 13th and unlucky #14. No consistency here at all.
Beginning in 2016, like NBA, lottery will determine top 3 picks. But the 2015 draft is the one everyone currently cares about with at least 2 franchise players.
Good news is maybe just maybe this will keep Buffalo from being a dynasty from 2017-2025.
Slats has done a superb job of getting deals like this done - regardless of whether these guys work out or not, making these signings is smart.
The league really should do more to prevent long term tanking/aggressive youth movements. It is terrible for the sport.
Top five picks aren't a sure fire way of getting good - look at the Islanders, Panthers, etc. The Penguins/Blackhawks are actually quite rare - and the Hawks also did a great job drafting in the later rounds.
these were the teams I heard with the Rangers in the discussion but not the likely destination.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years).
THN - ( New Window )
The league really should do more to prevent long term tanking/aggressive youth movements. It is terrible for the sport.
Nice in theory, but practically impossible to implement i would imagine. Far too many 'special and unique' circumstances, and what not. The bigger issue for me is why true cornerstone players, such as Sydney Crosby, don't get paid more money per year than they do. The individual salary cap should be a lot higher than it is. Would prevent these teams from staying elite for too long (basically, in case this isnt clear - i'm talking primarily about the Penguins because I hate them)
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Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
its hilarious to watch the hockey media and fans lose their shit completely because this guy didn't sign there and came to NY instead. THis is clearly the first player to ever not sign with the team that drafted him. Or not. Well this is clearly the first player who left a good team to go to another in free agency. Or not.
Eat a dick, media.
This misconception probably comes from Hayes having only posted 67 points in his career prior to this past season, in 102 games. Nearly doubling your career output in a single season usually draws out the doubters, but the numbers suggest he wasn't lucky, and the actual game-watching suggests he wasn't merely a product of Gaudreau. The improvement came because he realized that at 6-foot-3 and 205 pounds, he didn't have to try to finesse his way around guys who were as much as three or four years older than him.
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By the way, what a dumb quote by THN:
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Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
its hilarious to watch the hockey media and fans lose their shit completely because this guy didn't sign there and came to NY instead. THis is clearly the first player to ever not sign with the team that drafted him. Or not. Well this is clearly the first player who left a good team to go to another in free agency. Or not.
Eat a dick, media.
Hockey media has been atrocious of late. Perhaps I've just read more recently given our run, but it's pathetic. Like they don't watch the games or (in this case) don't understand how things work.
And the idea perpetuated that we got steamrolled by the Kings - despite pushing 3 games to OT. Wasn't a blowout.
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By the way, what a dumb quote by THN:
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Right winger Kevin Hayes has bid adieu to one of the leagues strongest franchise and signed instead with the New York Rangers.
The Blackhawks have been better than us, but we've been one of the best franchises in the league over the past near-decade despite our lack of Cup (Which will be fixed over the next three years). THN - ( New Window )
its hilarious to watch the hockey media and fans lose their shit completely because this guy didn't sign there and came to NY instead. THis is clearly the first player to ever not sign with the team that drafted him. Or not. Well this is clearly the first player who left a good team to go to another in free agency. Or not.
Eat a dick, media.
Amen...though I still hate Justin Schultz for spurning us. No one puts Slats in a corner!
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Don't know what that's all about, but the dickbag who wrote that the Penguins series was lost at 3-1, then predicted the Rangers would lose to Montreal, then predicted a Kings sweep....yeah, that asshole writes for THN too.
And the idea perpetuated that we got steamrolled by the Kings - despite pushing 3 games to OT. Wasn't a blowout.
And the fact that the refs anally raped us