The OL is a mess. With Brewer and Brown out, once the starters are gone, Nassib and Painter will be running for their lives with Asper playing left tackle.
Eric. I agree with just about every point. The only savign grace for the team to start the year will be if wecan run the ball somewhat effectively. Win Special teams and play good defense.
If we have to rely on Eli and the passing game, it could get ugly.
Connor Hughes is good sometimes, but other times he is just off.
Beatty wasn't good last year, but in no way was he the worst OL on this team. We had No C, and both of our OG's played far worse. Beatty is a capable starter in this league, he may not be a top 10 OT, but he is more than serviceable and he has shown that in the past.
I will say this. If this OL doesn't gel and the rebuild
doesn't work, then the Giants really need to look into how they scout OL. Because supposedly our OL coach is some kind of super respected expert, right?
It was 26-0 last week in the 4th quarter. And the Painter drive only got started after a penalty wiped out a 3rd down sack. Or that game may have ended with a shutout.
I really can't believe how bad our drafts have been
I really can't believe Reese has done such a piss poor job of taking care of the O-Line when the single most important piece of the puzzle is Eli. Now, even when there isn't pressure, Eli still thinks there is and totally rattled.
I'm wondering if 2014 goes as bad as it could, does Reese depart with Coughlin and possibly Eli.
It was 26-0 last week in the 4th quarter. And the Painter drive only got started after a penalty wiped out a 3rd down sack. Or that game may have ended with a shutout.
Because Colts @ Indy > Jets @ MetLife.
And the Giants are feeling some heat now, in front of local fans.
I really can't believe Reese has done such a piss poor job of taking care of the O-Line when the single most important piece of the puzzle is Eli. Now, even when there isn't pressure, Eli still thinks there is and totally rattled.
I'm wondering if 2014 goes as bad as it could, does Reese depart with Coughlin and possibly Eli.
It's a fair question. I hope we are being dramatic, but this looks real bad.
I've been on BBI since 2005, and I don't think it has ever been this negative for a pre-season. I'm not disagreeing with Eric's prediction, but I am a little surprised on how depressed people are, especially about Eli. Not so long ago, if you expressed such doubts, you got hammered. Believe,I know.
I've been on BBI since 2005, and I don't think it has ever been this negative for a pre-season. I'm not disagreeing with Eric's prediction, but I am a little surprised on how depressed people are, especially about Eli. Not so long ago, if you expressed such doubts, you got hammered. Believe,I know.
Its because you hammered only Eli when it was clear that our OL and WRs were just as bad. And now people are flat out seeing that this offense, Eli included, may just not be good enough.
Reese's main job is personnel. My God, look at the drafts we've had 08 - 12. As Eric has said this team is totally gutted. It looks like a credit to Coughlin that we've managed to do as well as we have.
O-Line is a mess, we have the worst TEs in the league, we have no depth at RB and on top of everything we may not have much a pass rush on the other side of the ball.
I don't think I've ever really put it all together like this, the terrible drafting, many questionable FA moves... I dunno. But yeah, this is scary.
RE: RE: I'm just stunned at hoe negative BBI is now
I've been on BBI since 2005, and I don't think it has ever been this negative for a pre-season. I'm not disagreeing with Eric's prediction, but I am a little surprised on how depressed people are, especially about Eli. Not so long ago, if you expressed such doubts, you got hammered. Believe,I know.
Its because you hammered only Eli when it was clear that our OL and WRs were just as bad. And now people are flat out seeing that this offense, Eli included, may just not be good enough.
Dep, you are full of it. I have been very critical of Reese's drafts and the Giants overall talent level. You are so in love with Eli you only see and hear comments about him.
right on buddy. There were times last year where I thought you were Nicks' agent.
And I have said it many times already that Eli may have lost it this year. I am a big fan of being a heavy run team. I dont think we have a good OL, I think the WRs are average at best, and when Eli does get time he has been off.
But keep on thinking you bashed others than Eli last year. You blamed him for EVERYTHING.
the Giants have NOT completed a pass longer than 10 yards this preseason.
Eli is 1-of-9 in the last two games. Our wide receivers, OL, TEs, and QB look like a mess.
The Giants HAVE completed a pass over 10 yds(Even Manning has Cruz just managed to fumble the one he did)so don't just throw out comments as facts.
The offense looked fine against Buffalo and everyone was excited(Manning 6-7 with short passes this is going to be great!)then they get behind the chains against Pittsburgh and flat out sucked against a good Colts team(although if Cruz hangs on and Jernigan makes a catch it could be different)and the season is over.
The Giants have huge issues, I think we all get this, but a lot of us were saying this offense was going to struggle early on and then improve. I don't get why so many people dismiss this possibility.
The O-line has some talent...give Beatty a chance to play. The Giants have two decent backs and a rookie who just might be able to play if he can block(certainly an achievable skill)and who knows how things will look if Beckham can actually get healthy.
They may yet be a 5 win team but lets give it just a bit before we anoint them as the worst team ever.
Sheesh!
Fire Eli, fire the Coach, fire the Front Office...
but the poor evaluation of OL talent, and the complete lack of interest in getting at least a serviceable TE have really soured me.
Maybe we are all wrong, and the OL will gel, but for a team that has a history of winning championships behind a tough, bruising, consistent OL, it baffles me how many times we have whiffed.
We've gone from one of the best offensives in the league (best NYG offense in my lifetime) to a situation where I get excited if our starting QB completes a pass.
Panic? I'm not panicking. But I don't like the signs.
Beckham is a huge loss.
And half of Jerry Reese's OL fix - Brown and Jerry - are downright whiffs (again).
Eric is usually optimistic. Very telling, although given all of the change, I don't think its going to be this bad. However I do worry if some of the change was for change's sake. Always telling when guys are brought in on 1 year deals - as Jerry and Brown were. My biggest 2 concerns are that Beatty cannot recover and Schwartz is a bad signing. And for what its worth, my 3rd is that JPP's success was because he played on a line with Tuck and Osi in their primes. His decline came as soon as he started being doubled and tripled. I seem to remember Strahan being able to deal with that....
right on buddy. There were times last year where I thought you were Nicks' agent.
And I have said it many times already that Eli may have lost it this year. I am a big fan of being a heavy run team. I dont think we have a good OL, I think the WRs are average at best, and when Eli does get time he has been off.
But keep on thinking you bashed others than Eli last year. You blamed him for EVERYTHING.
Yes, I defended Nicks. But don't tell me what I wrote or think. I've posted many times how many picks have been wasted on WRs who didn't pan out. I supported Graziano when he accurately wrote the Giants were suffering from a rotting of its core. Also, glad to see you have come around to the fact that Eli is part of the problem.
Everyone needs to step back from the ledge until at least a few weeks
While things look concerning with a little experience together and some confidence things can turn around very quickly. Wayyyy too small a sample size at this point. This could get even uglier Friday and still turn around when the season starts. Its preseason with a new OL and new system. We all understand this yet so many are freaking out because they aren't doing anything yet. What were the expectations?
The line could turn into a solid unit if it stays healthy and gels. A TE could emerge. I'd have to think they can at least put a guy on the field who can block better than myers last year. And the WRs look like it could be a unit with solid depth. Beckham hasn't played but why does that rule him out to do anything when the games actually matter? If JPP and Moore can get to the QB the D could be pretty fierce. And although the RBs are thin the two guys at the top of the chart look like hard runners between the tackles
Some of you guys need to drink a half full glass of optimism. The team started 0-6 last year. To think the team can improve on that is not far fetched. The season could be an abysmal one but these small sample sizes and what we see in practice is not enough data to make that assumption that this will be a terrible season at this point. Its week 3 of the preseason and this was always going to be a huge rebuilding project and work in progress
I get the impression people are jumping to the conclusion that this is a lost season and Eli is washed up. To have concerns is one thing. But to turn that concern into an assumption is another thing. Gotta be more patient
The Giants look awful, but it's a marathon not a sprint and if Beatty comes back and Pugh continues to develop the Oline just might(key word is might)be okay.
I just want to see a little offense Friday night. Oh, and Beckham actually practice 2 days in a row!
Jets score 33 points? Maybe on INTs but apart from Mangold and Dbrickashaw, the Jets don't have a great OL; Geno still hasn't proved to be a very good passing QB; not a lot of speed at WR and TE, although Decker is very good.
Last year the Jets manhandled the Giants OL, especially tossing Cordle around like a rag doll. Yes, this year's Giants OL hasn't played well but we'll see if it's better than last year's and the Jets front 7 is a very good test. So far, IMO the best Giants OL combo is: LT Pugh (which position he played in college), LG Richburg, C Walton, RG Jerry (who's a good pass blocker when he's healthy) and RT Schwartz (in the past he's played exclusively on the right side, at RG and RT).
Giants TEs are a disaster. I'd like to see Robinson play a lot as a learning experience for him. One TE who was mentioned by one of the beat writers this week is an UDFA out of that football powerhouse Southern Connecticut, Jerome Cunningham at 6'2" 250 lbs. and good measureables with 1.64 and 4.70 in the 10 and 40, respectively (Jace Amaro, the Jets rookie high draft choice TE runs the 40 in 4.74, for example). Because Donnell (Help me, I've fallen) and Fells are very slow (4.90 and higher in the 40) and Davis has very good measureables but in the past has dropped a lot of passes, why not give Cunningham a shot?
1. Some really silly comments on Washington in that preview.
Who says he can't play special teams? He supposedly returned punts and kick offs in college. He's got the speed and size to be a good kick returner - or a good gunner - in the NFL. They ought to give him a chance to return punts. They've tried everybody except the waterboy and nobody is anything better than mediocre at best.
And who cares if he can play in the slot or not. They have Cruz, the best receiver on the team, in the slot. They have JJ behind him if they decide to keep him on the roster. Harris can definitely play there, too. They have the slot covered.
But with Randle a major question moving forward, Beckham not able to play at all, and Manningham obviously done, they have real questions about outside receivers. They need at least two starting quality outside receivers and really have none right now. And they really need some size out there, too. Washington fits the size and speed criteria to play there, and should get every possible opportunity and then some to show that he can play there. Why screw around with guys who haven't proved anything like JJ as an outside receiver?
2. Anybody who didn't see this roster train wreck coming last spring needs to have their eyes and head examined.
Reese tried to fix the OL the same way he has tried (mostly unsuccessfully I might add) to maintain the LB, RB, and TE groups - with castoffs from other teams. And it isn't working.
Miami people will tell you that John Jerry is not a motivated player. Brown was run out of New Orleans for good reason - he absolutely stunk. Schwartz, who I am still holding out hope for, is a journeyman who had a good season for KC last year. Most of those other OL guys he brought in (Kropog, Johnson-Webb, Love, Asper, etc.) are/were multiple team rejects, too. Gress was an OFA that nobody else wanted.
Actually Reese didn't have much choice due to the absolutely terrible drafting from 2008 through at least 2012 that was done on his watch, and also the contract that he gave to Beatty.
Why would we be in better shape if we had drafted Martin?
1. Eli looks like he has that "deer in the headlights" look to him. I have read he is even off in practice more often than ever. I am not even sure if he is suited to be a WCO quarterback. If he "sucks" the first seven games of the year do we go to Nassib after the bye?
2. Our wideouts scare no one. I am with Eric that the loss of Beckham is huge. My hope with him is that he sort of comes along as the season goes and helps the 2nd half of the season. If his hammy is truly injured then he'll be inactive early in the year.
3. OL. I am trying to believe that Beatty will bounce back and that the OL will be Beatty-Richburg-Walton-Schwartz-Pugh with TE Davis and FB Hynosoraus doing the blocking.
4. TE. Enough said. The group sucks but lets hope Robinson finally rounds the corner and becomes a force as a third down receiving TE type.
5. Learning Curve. This is a new offense and there will be a learning curve. Coupled with the fact that we have limited talent this could make for a very poor start of the season.
I do believe this offense will run better than last year and that we'll dink and dunk better than last year but we have no one to threaten a defense. Eli is dead meat if he tries to hold onto the ball longer for deeper plays.
The OL is a mess. With Brewer and Brown out, once the starters are gone, Nassib and Painter will be running for their lives with Asper playing left tackle.
Reese has really screwed this team.
Agree with a lot of your conclusions, but remember that the Jets' secondary is a complete mess.
I still think that at least some of the problems with the OL are from a lack of chemistry. There are certainly a lot of questions regarding their overall talent. But more time to gel may at least make them competent. The problem is that Eli may be crushed by then. Reese neglected the OL for years despite having an immobile QB.
We could indeed be in for a long season. As I have said, I think the verdict on Eli will be known by Halloween.
My father taught me as a child, that in a fight you never stop punching till the other guy is unconscious. This is a game where it doesn't matter who lines up where, or what kind of offense is called. It comes down to who is the toughest son of a bitch, man on man. The Giants need to punch these pussies in the mouth and not stop. I'm looking forward to this fight. Here we go Giants... Link - ( New Window )
this will be the 4th straight game that Eric has predicted a loss. (He's 0-3 right now).
Obviously there are concerns here with this team....I am certainly not going to make any predictions. It is odd that no one seems to care that they've won 10 out of the last 13 games they've played....that fact just doesn't seem to matter.
And it's pretty presumptive IMO to just say Zach Martin could come in
honestly? come on... i know they are playing like shit, but do you really think this team isn't prepared? in 2011, we were freaking out about WR, nicks missed time in camp and everyone was talking about how eli didn't have timing with him and how are they going to cope without steve smith... also we had just lost TT to an ACL and had Cweb and Ross as our only CBs, we were picking guys up off the street.
you don't know how a season can turn out or how a player can emerge from obscurity.. lets take a breath, get a little perspective and just enjoy football, shit we wait how long for it to come back? and all anybody can do is shit on how bad they are playing. whenever i feel upset about the giants i just think about the Bills (live in rochester) theres a team thats gone through some shit and still is (may be moving the franchise) haven't been to the playoffs in over ten years, meanwhile the giants have won 2! in that span..
a lot of other teams have it a lot worse.. Cleveland, Jacksonville, even the Jets and Philly would give anything for one super bowl..
everybody chill out, grab a beer and watch this for chrissakes...
has had some poor drafts no doubt it...and its hurt.
Look around the league though???
Every single team has had multiple bad drafts in the last 8-9 years....EVERY SINGLE TEAM. The Patriots have had some horrendous drafts in the last 5-6 years...but they win, as they have Brady.
no...he's been right about the 1st team offense...they have sucked. Big deal. Its the preseason...that's why they have the preseason. People are way to worked up right now about all of this.
I learned years ago, that you're going to be dead wrong if you predict how a team is going to do in the regular season, based on their performance in the preseason....go back and look and see how unreliable and unrelatable it is. Of course you want your team to play well...but its not as connected as one might think.
The Jets scored 13 and 25 points in their first two games
Reese has really screwed this team.
Damn they better not put Eli or Nassib in if that's the case.
If we have to rely on Eli and the passing game, it could get ugly.
lol, that's quite a prediction. We will see. I don't think the Jets are so hot, either.
The fact we don't have an NFL caliber TE on this roster is ground for dismissal.
Beatty wasn't good last year, but in no way was he the worst OL on this team. We had No C, and both of our OG's played far worse. Beatty is a capable starter in this league, he may not be a top 10 OT, but he is more than serviceable and he has shown that in the past.
It was 26-0 last week in the 4th quarter. And the Painter drive only got started after a penalty wiped out a 3rd down sack. Or that game may have ended with a shutout.
I'm wondering if 2014 goes as bad as it could, does Reese depart with Coughlin and possibly Eli.
It was 26-0 last week in the 4th quarter. And the Painter drive only got started after a penalty wiped out a 3rd down sack. Or that game may have ended with a shutout.
Because Colts @ Indy > Jets @ MetLife.
And the Giants are feeling some heat now, in front of local fans.
I'm wondering if 2014 goes as bad as it could, does Reese depart with Coughlin and possibly Eli.
It's a fair question. I hope we are being dramatic, but this looks real bad.
Its because you hammered only Eli when it was clear that our OL and WRs were just as bad. And now people are flat out seeing that this offense, Eli included, may just not be good enough.
Eli is 1-of-9 in the last two games. Our wide receivers, OL, TEs, and QB look like a mess.
O-Line is a mess, we have the worst TEs in the league, we have no depth at RB and on top of everything we may not have much a pass rush on the other side of the ball.
I don't think I've ever really put it all together like this, the terrible drafting, many questionable FA moves... I dunno. But yeah, this is scary.
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I've been on BBI since 2005, and I don't think it has ever been this negative for a pre-season. I'm not disagreeing with Eric's prediction, but I am a little surprised on how depressed people are, especially about Eli. Not so long ago, if you expressed such doubts, you got hammered. Believe,I know.
Its because you hammered only Eli when it was clear that our OL and WRs were just as bad. And now people are flat out seeing that this offense, Eli included, may just not be good enough.
Dep, you are full of it. I have been very critical of Reese's drafts and the Giants overall talent level. You are so in love with Eli you only see and hear comments about him.
And I have said it many times already that Eli may have lost it this year. I am a big fan of being a heavy run team. I dont think we have a good OL, I think the WRs are average at best, and when Eli does get time he has been off.
But keep on thinking you bashed others than Eli last year. You blamed him for EVERYTHING.
Eli is 1-of-9 in the last two games. Our wide receivers, OL, TEs, and QB look like a mess.
The Giants HAVE completed a pass over 10 yds(Even Manning has Cruz just managed to fumble the one he did)so don't just throw out comments as facts.
The offense looked fine against Buffalo and everyone was excited(Manning 6-7 with short passes this is going to be great!)then they get behind the chains against Pittsburgh and flat out sucked against a good Colts team(although if Cruz hangs on and Jernigan makes a catch it could be different)and the season is over.
The Giants have huge issues, I think we all get this, but a lot of us were saying this offense was going to struggle early on and then improve. I don't get why so many people dismiss this possibility.
The O-line has some talent...give Beatty a chance to play. The Giants have two decent backs and a rookie who just might be able to play if he can block(certainly an achievable skill)and who knows how things will look if Beckham can actually get healthy.
They may yet be a 5 win team but lets give it just a bit before we anoint them as the worst team ever.
Sheesh!
Maybe you all should save time and replace these threads with analysis of the top college prospects for the draft next year...Sy, where are you man?
Maybe we are all wrong, and the OL will gel, but for a team that has a history of winning championships behind a tough, bruising, consistent OL, it baffles me how many times we have whiffed.
As far as I know, Gino/Vick have never been mistaken for Luck
Panic? I'm not panicking. But I don't like the signs.
Beckham is a huge loss.
And half of Jerry Reese's OL fix - Brown and Jerry - are downright whiffs (again).
Not to bring it up again, but we'd be in much better shape on the OL if we had drafted Martin.
And I have said it many times already that Eli may have lost it this year. I am a big fan of being a heavy run team. I dont think we have a good OL, I think the WRs are average at best, and when Eli does get time he has been off.
But keep on thinking you bashed others than Eli last year. You blamed him for EVERYTHING.
Yes, I defended Nicks. But don't tell me what I wrote or think. I've posted many times how many picks have been wasted on WRs who didn't pan out. I supported Graziano when he accurately wrote the Giants were suffering from a rotting of its core. Also, glad to see you have come around to the fact that Eli is part of the problem.
While things look concerning with a little experience together and some confidence things can turn around very quickly. Wayyyy too small a sample size at this point. This could get even uglier Friday and still turn around when the season starts. Its preseason with a new OL and new system. We all understand this yet so many are freaking out because they aren't doing anything yet. What were the expectations?
The line could turn into a solid unit if it stays healthy and gels. A TE could emerge. I'd have to think they can at least put a guy on the field who can block better than myers last year. And the WRs look like it could be a unit with solid depth. Beckham hasn't played but why does that rule him out to do anything when the games actually matter? If JPP and Moore can get to the QB the D could be pretty fierce. And although the RBs are thin the two guys at the top of the chart look like hard runners between the tackles
Some of you guys need to drink a half full glass of optimism. The team started 0-6 last year. To think the team can improve on that is not far fetched. The season could be an abysmal one but these small sample sizes and what we see in practice is not enough data to make that assumption that this will be a terrible season at this point. Its week 3 of the preseason and this was always going to be a huge rebuilding project and work in progress
I get the impression people are jumping to the conclusion that this is a lost season and Eli is washed up. To have concerns is one thing. But to turn that concern into an assumption is another thing. Gotta be more patient
I just want to see a little offense Friday night. Oh, and Beckham actually practice 2 days in a row!
Last year the Jets manhandled the Giants OL, especially tossing Cordle around like a rag doll. Yes, this year's Giants OL hasn't played well but we'll see if it's better than last year's and the Jets front 7 is a very good test. So far, IMO the best Giants OL combo is: LT Pugh (which position he played in college), LG Richburg, C Walton, RG Jerry (who's a good pass blocker when he's healthy) and RT Schwartz (in the past he's played exclusively on the right side, at RG and RT).
Giants TEs are a disaster. I'd like to see Robinson play a lot as a learning experience for him. One TE who was mentioned by one of the beat writers this week is an UDFA out of that football powerhouse Southern Connecticut, Jerome Cunningham at 6'2" 250 lbs. and good measureables with 1.64 and 4.70 in the 10 and 40, respectively (Jace Amaro, the Jets rookie high draft choice TE runs the 40 in 4.74, for example). Because Donnell (Help me, I've fallen) and Fells are very slow (4.90 and higher in the 40) and Davis has very good measureables but in the past has dropped a lot of passes, why not give Cunningham a shot?
Who says he can't play special teams? He supposedly returned punts and kick offs in college. He's got the speed and size to be a good kick returner - or a good gunner - in the NFL. They ought to give him a chance to return punts. They've tried everybody except the waterboy and nobody is anything better than mediocre at best.
And who cares if he can play in the slot or not. They have Cruz, the best receiver on the team, in the slot. They have JJ behind him if they decide to keep him on the roster. Harris can definitely play there, too. They have the slot covered.
But with Randle a major question moving forward, Beckham not able to play at all, and Manningham obviously done, they have real questions about outside receivers. They need at least two starting quality outside receivers and really have none right now. And they really need some size out there, too. Washington fits the size and speed criteria to play there, and should get every possible opportunity and then some to show that he can play there. Why screw around with guys who haven't proved anything like JJ as an outside receiver?
2. Anybody who didn't see this roster train wreck coming last spring needs to have their eyes and head examined.
Reese tried to fix the OL the same way he has tried (mostly unsuccessfully I might add) to maintain the LB, RB, and TE groups - with castoffs from other teams. And it isn't working.
Miami people will tell you that John Jerry is not a motivated player. Brown was run out of New Orleans for good reason - he absolutely stunk. Schwartz, who I am still holding out hope for, is a journeyman who had a good season for KC last year. Most of those other OL guys he brought in (Kropog, Johnson-Webb, Love, Asper, etc.) are/were multiple team rejects, too. Gress was an OFA that nobody else wanted.
Actually Reese didn't have much choice due to the absolutely terrible drafting from 2008 through at least 2012 that was done on his watch, and also the contract that he gave to Beatty.
2. Our wideouts scare no one. I am with Eric that the loss of Beckham is huge. My hope with him is that he sort of comes along as the season goes and helps the 2nd half of the season. If his hammy is truly injured then he'll be inactive early in the year.
3. OL. I am trying to believe that Beatty will bounce back and that the OL will be Beatty-Richburg-Walton-Schwartz-Pugh with TE Davis and FB Hynosoraus doing the blocking.
4. TE. Enough said. The group sucks but lets hope Robinson finally rounds the corner and becomes a force as a third down receiving TE type.
5. Learning Curve. This is a new offense and there will be a learning curve. Coupled with the fact that we have limited talent this could make for a very poor start of the season.
I do believe this offense will run better than last year and that we'll dink and dunk better than last year but we have no one to threaten a defense. Eli is dead meat if he tries to hold onto the ball longer for deeper plays.
Reese has really screwed this team.
Agree with a lot of your conclusions, but remember that the Jets' secondary is a complete mess.
I still think that at least some of the problems with the OL are from a lack of chemistry. There are certainly a lot of questions regarding their overall talent. But more time to gel may at least make them competent. The problem is that Eli may be crushed by then. Reese neglected the OL for years despite having an immobile QB.
We could indeed be in for a long season. As I have said, I think the verdict on Eli will be known by Halloween.
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Exactly. Martin can play every spot except C.
Which would still leave holes at guard to fill, unless you think they were going to use two picks in the first three rounds on offensive linemen.
I don't.
This just moves the offensive line questionmark from LT to G.
Obviously there are concerns here with this team....I am certainly not going to make any predictions. It is odd that no one seems to care that they've won 10 out of the last 13 games they've played....that fact just doesn't seem to matter.
you don't know how a season can turn out or how a player can emerge from obscurity.. lets take a breath, get a little perspective and just enjoy football, shit we wait how long for it to come back? and all anybody can do is shit on how bad they are playing. whenever i feel upset about the giants i just think about the Bills (live in rochester) theres a team thats gone through some shit and still is (may be moving the franchise) haven't been to the playoffs in over ten years, meanwhile the giants have won 2! in that span..
a lot of other teams have it a lot worse.. Cleveland, Jacksonville, even the Jets and Philly would give anything for one super bowl..
everybody chill out, grab a beer and watch this for chrissakes...
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Look around the league though???
Every single team has had multiple bad drafts in the last 8-9 years....EVERY SINGLE TEAM. The Patriots have had some horrendous drafts in the last 5-6 years...but they win, as they have Brady.
Has Eric been wrong about the play of the 1st team offense? Nope.
I learned years ago, that you're going to be dead wrong if you predict how a team is going to do in the regular season, based on their performance in the preseason....go back and look and see how unreliable and unrelatable it is. Of course you want your team to play well...but its not as connected as one might think.