What say you BBIers?
I would like to see us keep 2 with Hyno as a swing man. 3 at most. They both kept just 3 RBs with Haskins/Hillis as the third RB.
I see little upside with either and would prefer they keep Cox.
My 53 going into Jets game
Manning Nassib
Jennings Williams Hillis Cox
Hyno
Donnell Robinson Fells
Cruz Randall OB2 Parker Harris Washington
Pugh Beatty Scwartz Richburg Mosely Walton Brown Brewer Jerry
McManus
Weatherford
DeOssie
JPP Moore Kiwi Ayers Jenkins Hankins Patterson Kuhn Bromley
Beason McClain Williams Kennard Paysinger Herzlich
DRC Prince Thurman Bowman James McBride
Rolle Brown Demps Berle
Notable cuts:
JJ, Jackson, Connor, Painter, Holliday, MM, Gaskins, Brown
On the Ropes
Jerry, Brewer, James, Herzlich
Pushing for spots
Jackson, JJ, Gaskins, Brown, Gaines, Reynolds
Assumes Brewer injury is minor.
Where does the tight end position stand heading into fourth preseason game? - ( New Window )
BillT - Thats what I think. It just seems like common sense. You cut someone like Washington, Jerrnigan, or Cox to keep Fells or Williams?
I would rather take our chances on the waiver wire.
They have so many other guys at positions like WR, CB, and DL who can contribute more than a 4th TE who is a developmental guy or a marginal NFL player at best, not to mention the problems with the OL.
They really don't need more than 3 TEs anyway, and might be able to get away with just two if Hynoski can also play H-Back acceptably.
I would keep Donnell, Robinson, and the best blocker of the other two.
I would love it if we could somehow get Housler out of AZ.
Also, I don't see how both Washington and Harris can make it. It's one or the other. Can't go into the season with 3 of your 6 WRs never having played an NFL down before.
Orr's version is thin at tackle, with Brown as the only backup. I think Orr is reading a lot into the snaps that Schwartz and Mosley are taking at OT. He could be right, but is Sullen really that much of a difference maker on specials? He's a 330-pound guard; he won't be running down DeSean Jackson. Looks more like practice squad material to me.
Despite the four TEs, Orr's roster tilts toward defense, 26-24, because he keeps ten defensive linemen and only five wide receivers. I don't think Kerry Wynn is a sufficiently compelling prospect to justify skimping at WR. Raanan's allocation of roster spots is more conservative, and more likely to be right, IMO
As for those TEs, maybe Fells or Davis will get the axe if Donnell and Robinson look good in the last two preseason games. If that happens, the guy who gets the boot will get a call the next time Robinson gets hurt or Donnell wanders out of the end zone before catching a pass. If the young guys struggle the next two weeks, the new practice squad eligibility rules make the PS an option for them, just as it is for Cox.
In any case, eight roster spots probably go to the combination of RB-FB-TE. The split can be 3-1-4 or 4-1-3. I think you can make a fair case for a fourth TE over a fourth RB, despite the talent level among the tight ends.
Coughlin insists that he keeps the best players. Why would you keep 4 TEs when they all stink? It makes no sense. The Giants will keep the best 3 TEs and move forward. It's not like other teams will pick up the one we cut.
Also, I don't see how both Washington and Harris can make it. It's one or the other. Can't go into the season with 3 of your 6 WRs never having played an NFL down before.
Actually, I don't think JJ is our 3rd WR any more. I think he's much closer to 7th than 3rd. And when they went 4 wides yesterday, JJ was not out there. Harris has been around for a couple if years on PS and in the arena league. I doubt they look at him like a rookie. I think he and Washington are more likely to make it than not. I'd put both in the top 5.
Makes better use of the available talent.
You need one vet and Fells fits that.
The other two, you hope, break out eventually.
Parcells went into 1987 with three rookie WRs (Ingram, Baker and Turner), with just Manuel, Robinson and McConkey in front of them and Bavaro as the #1 target for Simms. It didn't work out very well: The Giants opened 0-2, and couldn't dig themselves out of the 0-5 hole the strike team created.
Coughlin inherited that WR draft class when he joined the Giants the following year.
We'll still have the suspended Herman and should have two spots continually rotate in on the practice squad until it looks like we find keepers.
If Grimble is any good he'd be another PS candidate.
The 6'4/215 Washington has come from tiny Newberry College to emerge as one of the stars of Giants camp. Per beat man Jordan Raanan, people inside the organization are intrigued by his unique ability to make plays in the air. We've seen that in each of the three preseason games, as Washington has posted a 7-116-3 line on seven targets. He'll likely open the season as the Giants' No. 5 wideout and should be on deep Dynasty radars. Aug 21 - 9:05 AM
Source: NJ.com
RB/FB-Jennings, Williams, Hillis, Cox, Hynoski
WR- Cruz, Randle, Beckham jr, Washington, Harris, Parker
TE-Donnell, Davis, Robinson
OL-Beatty, Pugh, Schwartz, Walton, Richburg, Mosley, Brown, Jerry, Brewer
DL-Jpp, Kiwanuka, Moore, Ayers, Jenkins, Hankins, Bromley, Kuhn, Patterson
LB-Beason, McClain, Williams, Kennard, Paysinger, Adkins
DB-Cromartie, Amukamara, Thurmond, Bowman,Rolle, Brown,Demps, Jackson, Berhe, James
K-Brown
P-Weatherford
L/s-DeOssie
2QB,4RB,1FB,6 WR,3 TE,9 OL,9DL,6LB,10 DBS,1K,1P, 1LS
Anybody care to opine on Wynn? Haven't seen much preseason.
Also, the Hyno idea sounds doable.
The only monkey wrench is that the number 4 guy appears to be Robinson (going by when he was used in the preseason games) and he is also the most physically gifted of the four and the highest draft choice. But I don't think that's enough of a monkey wrench to keep a player who can't rise above the likes of Donnell, Davis, and Fells (and maybe even Cunningham) through his play on the field (whether in practice or games).
Bottomline--this is a decision we can only make a wild guess at. There are too many details that we are not privy to which will ultimately decide it.
add talley to wr..
grimley ..ps
Blue so if I net it out you are saying 2 TE and 7 WR? Tally in and Fells out?
Washington at TE is an interesting thought. Certainly not an in-line TE, but maybe he and Hyno could do some of the other stuff.
I'm completely on-board with a youth movement at WR - especially since a new offense reduces the edge that guys like Manningham and Jernigan would otherwise enjoy. But let's keep it somewhat real. There's more to being a tight end than measuring 6'4".
Or a boy band.