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NFT: Cuban Rusney Castillo About To Be A Red Sox Player

sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:22 am
MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez reports that the Red Sox are "on track" to complete a six-year, $72 million contract with Cuban outfielder Rusney Castillo.
It will be a record-setting deal, topping Jose Abreu's six-year, $68 million pact from last offseason. The Red Sox appear to have outbid the Tigers, among others, for Castillo's services. Although the 27-year-old has reportedly professed a desire to play in the majors this season, the out-of-contention Red Sox have no reason to rush him. Castillo has great speed and some power, making his ceiling in fantasy leagues pretty high.
that's annoying.  
BeerFridge : 8/22/2014 11:23 am : link
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Mets  
Rflairr : 8/22/2014 11:23 am : link
didn't even try. They operate like a small market team. This guy might be a bust. But how do the Mets not even be involved?
Yankees  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:26 am : link
offensive situation going forward is scary bad. I thought they would go after him hard but they either didn't like what they saw from him or Hal didnt want to open the checkbook.

Red Sox needed him too, perhaps guys like Jackie Bradley jr will be a decent offensive player down the road but he hits like a girl right now
I cannot even believe he is getting more  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:26 am : link
money then Abreu. Yankees are smart to sit this one out.
That seems like...  
Chris in Philly : 8/22/2014 11:28 am : link
way too much money...
It is kind of a weird signing  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:30 am : link
because I had thought Mookie Betts was going to be their center fielder?
if he's  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:30 am : link
a good player they aren't smart to sit this one out. They need offensive help badly and even mediocre players get big money on the open market now that we know aren't any good
ya but they must not think he is worth the money  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:31 am : link
if they aren't going all in on him. 6 years 72 million is a huge risk for an unknown player.
thats fair  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:34 am : link
but I have zero confidence in the Yankees scouting abilities as they have proven to be a train wreck for a while now.

That seems high  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 11:34 am : link
from what I've read he's not predicted to be near as good as Abreu or Puig.

Not worried too much about the outfielders. Cespedes has the out clause and it's not clear whether he will easily extend. My guess is Craig will end up at 1B eventually. Bradley or Betts will slot in somewhere or be part of a big trade. One thing Boston has done is accumulate nice chips...not really sure what they will cash them in for, but they will make any glut disappear.
he doesnt  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:35 am : link
have to be as good as Puig or Abreu to be worth it. Puig and Abreu are significantly underpaid
Bradley's value is in the toilet  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:36 am : link
don't see him being a centerpiece for any trade. Betts definitely could be.
what  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:37 am : link
team is going to take Bradley as a huge trade piece? His bat has been absolutely awful in the majors. He's not 21 either, he's 25 and will be 25 at the start of next season. He's a very good defensive player but can't hit to save his life
that should read  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:37 am : link
he's 24
Alderson comments from the other day  
Shecky : 8/22/2014 11:38 am : link
He made it sound like they scouted him but didn't think as highly of him as other teams - that Met scouts werent in agreement the kid is as good as some others think. 6/72 is a lot for an unknown.
I think  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:39 am : link
they would be smart to let Cespedes walk when the time comes. If the guy didn't win home run derby's no one would pay attention to him, career .315 on base percentage, below 30% last two years. Why would you give that guy big money?
that means they would have traded  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:40 am : link
lester for no return.
so  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:42 am : link
they should compound one mistake by making another?

What guy that has a 30% on base percentage is worth big money?
Sorry, didn't mean to suggest Bradley would be a centerpiece  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 11:43 am : link
Betts might be or, more likely, a young arm. Just meant that having more players than spots shouldn't be a reason not to sign another player.
it is official  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:43 am : link
WEEI.com's Alex Speier reports that the Red Sox have reached an agreement with Cuban outfielder Rusney Castillo on a seven-year, $72.5 million contract.
MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez reported earlier that a deal was close. It's for seven years instead of the initially reported six, but the first year only covers the rest of this season. The contract is a record for a Cuban defector, topping the six-year, $68 million deal Jose Abreu got last offseason. Castillo wants to play in the majors this season, but it's not clear at this point if that's what the Red Sox have planned. There are less than two weeks remaining in the minor league season.
no i am just commenting  
sinctybldh : 8/22/2014 11:43 am : link
that if cespedes goes then the red sox got nothing back.
It's still not beyond the realm of possiblity  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 11:45 am : link
that they didn't really let Lester go.
If Cespedes  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 11:46 am : link
didn't have the defector story and people going crazy for him when he defected and didn't win home run derby's no one would pay attention to him at all. He would be Chris Carter from the Astros, actually he would be lucky to be Chris Carter from the Astros because Carter has been a better player two years in a row.

Eventually people will realize that Cespedes isn't that good.
RE: Alderson comments from the other day  
Rflairr : 8/22/2014 11:47 am : link
In comment 11819174 Shecky said:
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He made it sound like they scouted him but didn't think as highly of him as other teams - that Met scouts werent in agreement the kid is as good as some others think. 6/72 is a lot for an unknown.


Would you trust the Red Sox and Tigers scouts? Or the Mets scouts?
If  
mitch300 : 8/22/2014 11:48 am : link
he turns out to be a bust, the Red Sox will just trade him to the Dodgers.
...  
feelflows : 8/22/2014 11:53 am : link
Mets or Yankees get him "what a deal!!"

Red Sox or Phillies get him "what a rip off!!"

Makes Abreu's deal even more of a steal...  
Andy in Halifax : 8/22/2014 11:56 am : link
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I'm a Red Sox fan  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 11:57 am : link
and I also think it might be an overpay. OTOH, it's just money and not players, so it's not that important a point IMO. Also, according to someone I read on SoxPros, the added year (month really) might lower the AAV and therefore lower the contract wrt the luxury tax.
RE: RE: Alderson comments from the other day  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2014 11:59 am : link
In comment 11819199 Rflairr said:
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In comment 11819174 Shecky said:


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He made it sound like they scouted him but didn't think as highly of him as other teams - that Met scouts werent in agreement the kid is as good as some others think. 6/72 is a lot for an unknown.



Would you trust the Red Sox and Tigers scouts? Or the Mets scouts?


I'd trust the Mets scouts in this regime as much or more than the either of those teams. Money is one thing, projection is something else.

Keith Law has the Mets as the #4 farm system.

if the Mets couldn't afford him that would be different, but if they say he's not worth looking at, I'd trust them.
To much $$$$$$$, glad Yanks passed  
Stan from LA : 8/22/2014 12:01 pm : link
Now Abreu is a waaaaaaaay different story...
the Mets  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 12:02 pm : link
don't have the money to sign guys for 12 million a year that have never played in the big leagues.

They very well may not have liked him, but even if they did like him they weren't going to be players because of the money
pj  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 12:02 pm : link
the SOx system is also highly ranked. I would tend to put this off as more "different people can see things differently".
RE: To much $$$$$$$, glad Yanks passed  
speedywheels : 8/22/2014 12:05 pm : link
In comment 11819235 Stan from LA said:
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Now Abreu is a waaaaaaaay different story...


Haha. Like clockwork.

Had the Yanks signed this guy, Stan would have been raving about it. But since the Sox did, out comes the "too much money" mantra.

Mook, excactly  
pjcas18 : 8/22/2014 12:07 pm : link
the Mets liked Abreu. Who didn't?

but at least they didn't claim he's not worth pursuing (though they didn't like him as an NL 1B, more of a DH - they loved his power), they came out and said they couldn't sign him.

so, yeah Bill you're probably right.

I'm just saying rflair denigrating the Mets scouts was silly and typical of a beaten fan.

actually the Yankees (and only the Yankees)...  
Mike in St. Louis : 8/22/2014 12:07 pm : link
had him pegged as a second baseman, not an OF for some reason...maybe that factored in to what they were willing to pay...
His projected profile  
OlyWAJintsFan : 8/22/2014 12:11 pm : link
is Ellsbury-esque at a shade over 1/2 the cost - if he pans out. Scouting reports I have read are plus bat speed and plus foot speed. There is risk involved but and a premium was paid with respect to the success of recent cuban defectors. Its not a crippling contract for the Red Sox given the AAV and duration of the contract.

It does create an interesting backlog of seemingly similarly players. Victorino comes off the books in one more season too.
Tomas is hitting the market this fall...  
Dunedin81 : 8/22/2014 12:12 pm : link
He is said to have a higher ceiling and should command more money. Younger too. We will see if the Yankees sit that one out. The Sox can afford a $72 mil mistake with their payroll what it is now. We can too but remember for us its a $120 mil mistake.
RE: actually the Yankees (and only the Yankees)...  
BeerFridge : 8/22/2014 12:13 pm : link
In comment 11819256 Mike in St. Louis said:
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had him pegged as a second baseman, not an OF for some reason...maybe that factored in to what they were willing to pay...


His market value for the expected offense at 2B would be even higher.

The Yankees have been consistently out on every notable Cuban prospect. It's really frustrating for me as a Yankee fan. We're signing an ancient Beltran instead of spending money on Cespedes, Puig, Abreu, Soler or any of these guys. Crazy.
its only  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 12:13 pm : link
a 120 million dollar mistake because of dumb ass signings like Ellsbury and Beltran. They only have themselves to blame for everything costing more
BeerFridge...  
Mike in St. Louis : 8/22/2014 12:15 pm : link
I think they weren't willing to pay that much money for a player that projects to be a second baseman...
RE: BeerFridge...  
BeerFridge : 8/22/2014 12:17 pm : link
In comment 11819288 Mike in St. Louis said:
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I think they weren't willing to pay that much money for a player that projects to be a second baseman...


That thinking is wrong. If he's a 275, 15 hr 30 SB guy, that's a pretty good outfielder. That's an ALL STAR at second. There's a reason Cano was getting paid what he is. He's a premier hitter at a traditionally lower production spot.
RE: its only  
Dunedin81 : 8/22/2014 12:17 pm : link
In comment 11819283 MookGiants said:
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a 120 million dollar mistake because of dumb ass signings like Ellsbury and Beltran. They only have themselves to blame for everything costing more


Self inflicted wounds are would D's nonetheless. What an awful offseason that will have been.
its  
MookGiants : 8/22/2014 12:21 pm : link
going to be very interesting to see what dumb shit Hal does this off-season. They have to be shit scared about attendance next year. No Jeter farewell tour to save their ass, no playoffs two years in a row. It's going to be a blood bath. I'm sure he'll just make it worse by giving Scherzer a shit load of money.
gotta love those Red Sox  
Jints in Carolina : 8/22/2014 12:23 pm : link
such lovable, little blue collar underdogs!
He's not old enough to be a Yankee yet.  
BeerFridge : 8/22/2014 12:34 pm : link
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Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.  
Ira : 8/22/2014 12:44 pm : link
At $12 per year, I think Castillo will be a disappointment.
RE: Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.  
BigBlueinChicago : 8/22/2014 12:58 pm : link
In comment 11819385 Ira said:
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At $12 per year, I think Castillo will be a disappointment.


Folks do realize that the days of getting Cuban players at severely below market value are over, right?

A market correction was in order the moment Chapman, Puig and recently Abreu busted out and significantly outplayed their contracts.

Even if Castillo puts up as much as an .800 OPS, on the free agent market today with the lack of good hitting, that is worth between $15 to $17 million a year.


RE: Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 1:16 pm : link
In comment 11819385 Ira said:
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At $12 per year, I think Castillo will be a disappointment.


I heard 10.3m AAV
and if it really was $12 a year  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 1:17 pm : link
that's the biggest bargain in sports history.
That's not fair, Mook,  
Section331 : 8/22/2014 1:24 pm : link
In comment 11819137 MookGiants said:
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Red Sox needed him too, perhaps guys like Jackie Bradley jr will be a decent offensive player down the road but he hits like a girl right now


Mo'ne is a better hitter than JB Jr.
meh  
RasputinPrime : 8/22/2014 2:25 pm : link
we signed tonnes of 16 year olds to big money so I guess we don't have a need for any offensive help over the next 5-8 years...
I doubt anyone here has watched Castillo play  
illmatic : 8/22/2014 2:32 pm : link
but apparently paying him 10-12 million a year until he's 33 is a huge bargain. At least I learned something today.

Yeah, I would have liked for the Yankees to sign him but if they feel that money is better spent towards a more proven player in the offseason then so be it. I'll wait until then to really judge all of it.
RE: meh  
Bill L : 8/22/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11819623 RasputinPrime said:
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we signed tonnes of 16 year olds to big money so I guess we don't have a need for any offensive help over the next 5-8 years...


What was the deal with the kid you guys signed, Torres? Big contract and then rescinded it last minute. Failed physical?
RE: He's not old enough to be a Yankee yet.  
dune69 : 8/22/2014 3:06 pm : link
In comment 11819356 BeerFridge said:
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Exactly

We'll pay him $72 million when he reaches 38 years of age.
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