What did he and Grimble do...tear their hamstrings?
Assuming he didn't tear his hamstring, as crazy as this may sound, I'd still be inclined to put Grimble on the PS. You can always waive him from it later, and we do have two extra spots. Our TE situation is terrible, and he did have some success at USC.
1) The departure of Will Hill
2) Chris Snee retiring
3) David Wilson retiring
4) Odell Beckham's hamstring and not practicing
5) Lack of production from C. Brown, Holliday ...2 of their FA acquisitions that were supposed to help a little...C. Brown with depth on the line and Holiday with the return game. They've gotten nothing from them.
6) Cooper Taylor's injury.
All of this hurts....these are all players that were really supposed to help this team.
Andy.. because we put our own team under the microscope and know about every single player in camp to some degree. We don't know nearly as much about other teams and don't follow them nearly as closely.
It's not a Giants-specific thing. It's just a frustrating nature of the sport.
RE: biggest surprises/disappointments for the Giants this preseason
1) The departure of Will Hill
2) Chris Snee retiring
3) David Wilson retiring
4) Odell Beckham's hamstring and not practicing
5) Lack of production from C. Brown, Holliday ...2 of their FA acquisitions that were supposed to help a little...C. Brown with depth on the line and Holiday with the return game. They've gotten nothing from them.
6) Cooper Taylor's injury.
All of this hurts....these are all players that were really supposed to help this team.
Oof. Paints quite a picture.
When is the last time Holliday took part in a team activity?
Andy.. because we put our own team under the microscope and know about every single player in camp to some degree. We don't know nearly as much about other teams and don't follow them nearly as closely.
It's not a Giants-specific thing. It's just a frustrating nature of the sport.
but why does it always seem like we have more shit than anybody else?
Andy, and another thought(on top of vibe and arc's)is we get info thrown at us so quickly.
Someone starts limping in practice and 10 reporters at tweeting it before the guy makes it to the sidelines. Then we have all the time in the world to discuss what terrible pox has befallen him before we find out its nothing and he is back practicing.
Seems like all we talk about are injuries and after awhile you start thinking that's all there is.
And I may be an idiot(okay, I know I am when it comes to footballl)...
1) The departure of Will Hill
2) Chris Snee retiring
3) David Wilson retiring
4) Odell Beckham's hamstring and not practicing
5) Lack of production from C. Brown, Holliday ...2 of their FA acquisitions that were supposed to help a little...C. Brown with depth on the line and Holiday with the return game. They've gotten nothing from them.
6) Cooper Taylor's injury.
All of this hurts....these are all players that were really supposed to help this team.
Excellent points. I have often pondered how great this secondary would be with a healthy, clear headed Will Hill. Also, we'd have carried five safeties if Cooper Taylor had not been hurt. The injury / retirements to Snee and Wilson hurt too. I had hoped the surgery would have given him another year or two of serviceable play. I had also hoped Wilson could catch short passes with his speed and return KO's like a monster again. Alas, this is football and injuries happen.
would not cut him. You need explosive game changing players. We have one proven one in Victor Cruz. We have an unproven one in Odell Beckham. Holiday is a proven threat that has had fumbling issues. Keep him on this roster. You gotta have game changers. Why the fuck do we need him in the preseason. He is one of the best return men in the game.
Charlie Brown's lack of production is a surprise to whom?
I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
I am not a jets fan. But it wouldn't be too hard for me to do some research on these forums and find a great deal of posters who wanted to recruit Rex last year when his contract status was in question.
I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
I am not a jets fan. But it wouldn't be too hard for me to do some research on these forums and find a great deal of posters who wanted to recruit Rex last year when his contract status was in question.
A great deal? I don't know about that. There are some very defense minded posters who wouldn't mind him as our coordinator, but that's about the extent of it
Most people here realize the guy is a clown who runs his mouth way too much.
I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
I am not a jets fan. But it wouldn't be too hard for me to do some research on these forums and find a great deal of posters who wanted to recruit Rex last year when his contract status was in question.
Sounds like this ain't your first rodeo on BBI. What was your last handle?
I think some people pondered Ryan as a DC here, maybe even last
The quote was a shot(if you will)about players not wanting to work hard and using any excuse to get out of practice. If you followed those teams closely you might agree Coughlin had somewhat of a point with a handful of players.
No coach, no matter how hard he tries, can stop players from pulling hamstrings and having career ending neck injuries.
If you believe this is the kind of injury Coughlin was talking about you're simply wrong.
What did he and Grimble do...tear their hamstrings?
Unbelievable.
What did he and Grimble do...tear their hamstrings?
Assuming he didn't tear his hamstring, as crazy as this may sound, I'd still be inclined to put Grimble on the PS. You can always waive him from it later, and we do have two extra spots. Our TE situation is terrible, and he did have some success at USC.
What did he and Grimble do...tear their hamstrings?
I know! A little info would be nice.
He fielded some punts on Wednesday, but he's been out a long time.
1) The departure of Will Hill
2) Chris Snee retiring
3) David Wilson retiring
4) Odell Beckham's hamstring and not practicing
5) Lack of production from C. Brown, Holliday ...2 of their FA acquisitions that were supposed to help a little...C. Brown with depth on the line and Holiday with the return game. They've gotten nothing from them.
6) Cooper Taylor's injury.
All of this hurts....these are all players that were really supposed to help this team.
Preston Parker, Harris, and Washington seem to have taken jobs from MM, and Holiday.
Falcons fans, for instance, feel like the Falcons have to deal with more than anyone else. And so on...
It's not a Giants-specific thing. It's just a frustrating nature of the sport.
1) The departure of Will Hill
2) Chris Snee retiring
3) David Wilson retiring
4) Odell Beckham's hamstring and not practicing
5) Lack of production from C. Brown, Holliday ...2 of their FA acquisitions that were supposed to help a little...C. Brown with depth on the line and Holiday with the return game. They've gotten nothing from them.
6) Cooper Taylor's injury.
All of this hurts....these are all players that were really supposed to help this team.
Oof. Paints quite a picture.
It's not a Giants-specific thing. It's just a frustrating nature of the sport.
I know...I'm just venting.
Andy, and another thought(on top of vibe and arc's)is we get info thrown at us so quickly.
Someone starts limping in practice and 10 reporters at tweeting it before the guy makes it to the sidelines. Then we have all the time in the world to discuss what terrible pox has befallen him before we find out its nothing and he is back practicing.
Seems like all we talk about are injuries and after awhile you start thinking that's all there is.
Unfortunately, all he has shown is a slow first step and plodding speed(oh, plus an injury).
1) The departure of Will Hill
2) Chris Snee retiring
3) David Wilson retiring
4) Odell Beckham's hamstring and not practicing
5) Lack of production from C. Brown, Holliday ...2 of their FA acquisitions that were supposed to help a little...C. Brown with depth on the line and Holiday with the return game. They've gotten nothing from them.
6) Cooper Taylor's injury.
All of this hurts....these are all players that were really supposed to help this team.
Odell BeckHAMSTRING.
Was our scouting department aware of this on draft day?
Odell BeckHAMSTRING.
Was our scouting department aware of this on draft day?
LOL
Trindon Holliday is like 5 foot 8 and has done nothing as a WR. As a special teamer, he's a shorter Willie Ponder: breathtaking speed, fumbler.
First camp practice. Same as Beckham
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Under his watch....he has taken injuries to a new high.....
Trindon Holliday is like 5 foot 8 and has done nothing as a WR. As a special teamer, he's a shorter Willie Ponder: breathtaking speed, fumbler.
Trindon Holliday isn't 5' 8" standing on top of his helmet. he's lucky if he's 5' 5".
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
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I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
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I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
I am not a jets fan. But it wouldn't be too hard for me to do some research on these forums and find a great deal of posters who wanted to recruit Rex last year when his contract status was in question.
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In comment 11820019 RDJR said:
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I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
I am not a jets fan. But it wouldn't be too hard for me to do some research on these forums and find a great deal of posters who wanted to recruit Rex last year when his contract status was in question.
A great deal? I don't know about that. There are some very defense minded posters who wouldn't mind him as our coordinator, but that's about the extent of it
Most people here realize the guy is a clown who runs his mouth way too much.
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In comment 11820019 RDJR said:
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I was just about to post the "injuries are a cancer" quote. TC took a big shot at Fassel when he was hired with that quote. I wish a reporter would bring that up with him.
DONT YOU DARE CHALLANGE THOMAS COUGHLIN.
He is the 2nd best HC in the league, 2x Supperbowl winner, and chief hardass boss #1.
STFU Jets fan
I am not a jets fan. But it wouldn't be too hard for me to do some research on these forums and find a great deal of posters who wanted to recruit Rex last year when his contract status was in question.
Sounds like this ain't your first rodeo on BBI. What was your last handle?
Not as HC over Coughlin, at least not since 2011.
The quote was a shot(if you will)about players not wanting to work hard and using any excuse to get out of practice. If you followed those teams closely you might agree Coughlin had somewhat of a point with a handful of players.
No coach, no matter how hard he tries, can stop players from pulling hamstrings and having career ending neck injuries.
If you believe this is the kind of injury Coughlin was talking about you're simply wrong.