NFT: Mets talk 8/22

Murphy while his value is high?

Can't wait to see him push Murph next spring (grin)

In comment 11819911 pjcas18 said:

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Murphy while his value is high?

Depends on how much it would take to get an extension and what kind of deal other teams are willing to make. I wouldn't move Murphy just for the sake of making a trade.

In comment 11819953 EmpireWF said:

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In comment 11819911 pjcas18 said: Quote: Murphy while his value is high? Depends on how much it would take to get an extension and what kind of deal other teams are willing to make. I wouldn't move Murphy just for the sake of making a trade.

Of course not, but as we all know the Mets have two major holes (assuming all others return healthy).

LF and SS and that doesn't mean other spots can't be upgraded.

But if the Mets can play a 21 year old at 2B and trade their all-star 2B for a LF or a SS how is that making a trade for the sake of making a trade.

It's making a trade to better the team. Just not sure anyone values Murphy that much even though he's kind of underrated.

and I don't see any way the Mets can get a power bat in return for Murphy.

A SS may be more likely but again, who is out there? Murphy for Brad Miller is giving up too much. I'd deal Murphy in a heartbeat for Chris Owings but I doubt Arizona would do it (don't want Didi G. at all).

I could see Murphy being moved for a package of younger players, whether they'd be ready to contribute to the big leagues yet who knows.

it not by position but by holes in the batting order. Right now they need a leadoff hitter and a cleanup hitter.

what was the date of David Wright's last home?

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thank you

today August 22 2014

2 HR's on the road the entire year

needed desperately

it is understandable, no wait a sec, it's CitiField that is in his head, never mind

or is he hiding an injury?

it is the latter

....knee injury



has murphy been placed thru waivers?

In comment 11820006 chris r said:

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or is he hiding an injury?

I think the shoulder injury has sapped his power

is because he's declining. I mean, of course he's going to decline as he gets older, but there's something else going on here. He was an All Star last season and his numbers were great. Also, he was playing pretty damn well through May this season.

I think his poor numbers are a combination of two things. Injury and mechanics. I know that Wright-bashers like to say "Well, he had an MRI and it came out negative..so you can't blame it on injury." The funny thing is, you don't go around getting MRIs for the hell of it. There had to be something going on for DW to get an MRI. He also NEVER blames injuries so you won't here him talking about it.

And then there's mechanics. DW has said himself that he screwed up his own mechanics because he was in a little slump. Instead of waiting it out, he tinkered with his approach so much that he basically forgot what his approach was when he was hitting well. So much of it sounds like it's in his head, plus I'm willing to bet everything that he's been battling injuries nearly the entire season.

Either way, I don't think this is some deep decline. I think he will be fine next season assuming that he's healthy.

for Owings makes absolutely zero sense for Arizona. Owings isn't a FA until after the 2019 season, Murphy after next year (and will make roughly 8 next year), Owings isn't even arbitration eligible for 3 more years + Aaron Hill is owed 2 years 24 million at 2b for them.

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In comment 11820139 steve in ky said:

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It's not that hard to look up. Wright's back injury was 2011.

We all know that David was pretty damn good before the back injury. Crazy good.

2011 was a weird year. Didn't start out well. Broke his back in the middle of May and was out for more than two months. Came back on fire for 10 games and then flamed out for August and September.

2012 and 2013 Wright was back to putting up his usual numbers. In fact, if Wright didn't hurt his hamstring, last season may have been one of his best. He hit 18 HRs in only 112 games (he hit 21 HRs through 156 games the year prior). He would have well surpassed his HR total from the previous season had he not been out for so many games last year and I wouldn't have to sit through people bitching and moaning about how he doesn't hit HRs anymore.

I don't think his back injury is or has been a factor outside of 2011. Clearly it didn't hurt him in the two seasons after the back injury. However, I firmly believe his shoulder has killed this season for him. I just hope it's nothing serious.

a team building around young pitching can live with Murphy or Flores in the middle infield. They are awful.

Accept it...

Flores is not an answer at ss. He made Tejada look like Ozzie Smith on that last botched pla.

Reynolds 2-2

Rinse and repeat

Groundhog Day

look silly on a play before. I was waiting for these comments to come. It was only a matter of time.

I just don't understand how so many view Flores is a major league ss.

No one ever said that he was a major league ss. We all just want the chance to see if he could be a major league shortstop. Most of all, we were just tired of seeing Tejada (ie the worst ss in baseball) continually block a possible better option.

Personally, I'd rather watch flores struggle than watch play Tejada another game.

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he's embarrassing himself. He managed to actually fall down trying to pick a ball up after he booted it in the first place. I don't believe I have EVER seen that before. Are you watching this???

I never said Flores was the answer at ss.

But please, continue...

we are Met fans. I want the kid to be successful as much as you. I just don't think he's a SS.

Peace.

is letting up a lot of runs but is consistently hitting 98 mph tonight and touching 99 as well

I think most can agree it is unlikely that he is the solution at ss. However I think they are more interested in seeing how he hits at the MLB level. If he starts showing signs he can hit well, he could move to 2b until Herrera is ready and allow them to trade Murphy while also raising his trade value to a team that needs a 2b or 3b. Tejada is horrid and should have no future on this team so I have no problems with Flores getting his at bats.

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4-4 and it hitting .349 for the season at Las Vegas

As per Rosenthal. Let's see how this plays out.

I said if he hit.... I didnt say he is hitting enough now, or that I thought he would. He's only gotten regular playing time for a few weeks now, maybe he can hit maybe he can't but he deserves a shot. So I guess when Duda first came up and was a butcher in the outfield we should have just released him. Same with TDA when he struggled the first half of the season. Flores was always known for his bat, not his glove.

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sorry if that didn't show through. I was called deluded earlier in the thread for saying the same thing.

Maybe he meant diluted... Because of the rain and all

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Let's see if waiting paid off for the mets. Major injury to a major pitcher for a true contender. The exact situation that those in the 'wait to put him on waivers' camp couldn't have ever dreamed of. Let's see if he makes it through, or gets blocked. If the A's didn't have excess SP, they'd be an obvious block.

Just years of being a Mets fan makes one defensive, haha.

Wonder if Colon makes it through. Gammons has a source that says the Orioles and Yankees are "claiming everyone"

If not, he'll be a utility infielder. Everything depends on his ability to hit consistently on this level. He hasn't shown that, but he's still young and he has hit mostly well in the minors.

That can get awfully expensive, quickly.

They mentioned it during the game last night but were not sure if it still was a policy ( or I turned it off before they confirmed it or not )

In comment 11822362 Kevin999 said:

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They mentioned it during the game last night but were not sure if it still was a policy ( or I turned it off before they confirmed it or not )

just that players salary I believe since the waiving team can say you can have the player for just salary

But I believe its $20k