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Honestly - Nassib's Trade Value & Likelihood

Trainmaster : 8/24/2014 5:00 pm
Like many others, my opinion of Nassib has completely changed during this preseason. From one extreme (a "wasted pick(s)") to the other extreme (Eli replacement for the 2015 season).

Many of us thought Nassib was at best someone to be showcased during pre-season in order to more than offset the 2013 draft picks spent on him and trade him away (e.g. a third or second rounder).

Nassib's success (albeit against 2nd and 3rd teamers) and Eli's struggles have raised the possibility that Nassib actually could be the 2015 starter (an unheard of possibility a month or so ago).

So, if another team came knocking (say the Rams after Bradford's injury), what would your asking price be? A third rounder seems too low. Would you part with Nassib for the Rams' second rounder? Although he's looked good, I doubt this preseason's success warrant a first rounder.

Would you trade Nassib today for a second rounder? For me personally, I think not.
No offense, but...  
Klaatu : 8/24/2014 5:04 pm : link
After posting "...my opinion of Nassib has completely changed during this preseason. From one extreme (a "wasted pick(s)") to the other extreme (Eli replacement for the 2015 season)..." It's kind of hard to take anything else you say seriously.
He will be Eli's back-up, and he has the potential to be excellent.  
CT Charlie : 8/24/2014 5:04 pm : link
At this point I wouldn't trade him for less than an alternate All-Pro offensive lineman.
Agreed  
Sir-Yes-Sir : 8/24/2014 5:05 pm : link
sadly, he is far from alone on this site
There is an old saying: you are only as good as your backup QB  
SGMen : 8/24/2014 5:05 pm : link
Look at how many teams we beat last year because we faced backup QB's or QB's who plain old sucked.

If the Rams offered two #1's and a starting player we could really use this year I'd (maybe) pull the trigger but outside of that crazy price you keep Nassib and hope he isn't needed in 2014.
Sometimes this site  
rebel yell : 8/24/2014 5:16 pm : link
just makes me chuckle. This one did it for me.
Agree with you SGmen  
Geeman : 8/24/2014 5:19 pm : link
at this stage a 2nd round pick wouldn't get it done.
Nassib could be the QB of the future. I wouldn't take anything less than a 1st rounder for him right now.
RE: No offense, but...  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 8/24/2014 5:24 pm : link
In comment 11823403 Klaatu said:
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After posting "...my opinion of Nassib has completely changed during this preseason. From one extreme (a "wasted pick(s)") to the other extreme (Eli replacement for the 2015 season)..." It's kind of hard to take anything else you say seriously.


Exactly. Maybe you jumped to a conclusion last year and you're doing it again. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Why can't people be happy that this guy appears to be a capable backup which allows the team to keep only 2 QBs?
Someone will give up two 1sts and a 2nd at the least.  
arcarsenal : 8/24/2014 5:26 pm : link
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Personally, I'd hold off  
mrvax : 8/24/2014 5:27 pm : link
on trading him until this season is over unless some team made the Giants a silly good offer.

Too many unknowns right now. Will Eli bounce back? (I think he will.) Will Nassib continue to improve in practice this year?

By the end of this season we will know what we have left in Eli and a good idea of how Nassib can perform.
RE: Someone will give up two 1sts and a 2nd at the least.  
mrvax : 8/24/2014 5:28 pm : link
In comment 11823439 arcarsenal said:
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:>)
A fair trade would be  
Jay on the Island : 8/24/2014 5:37 pm : link
Greg Robinson, Brian Quick, a 1st, a 2nd, and Janoris Jenkins for Nassib.
He's exactly where he is supposed to be  
Peter from CT : 8/24/2014 5:37 pm : link
A developmental prospect with a high ceiling. Unless someone makes a stupid offer he is great insurance for the Giant future.
Trainmaster - are you sure you want to play GM?  
Jimmy Googs : 8/24/2014 5:42 pm : link
Because I am going out on a limb here and say you would suck at it...
Anyone  
McGIANTS : 8/24/2014 6:07 pm : link
who thinks Nassib should be traded this season must really like Painter as a backup. And besides, would the Giants make such a move with someone they trusted enough to take in the 4th round?
Guys  
Trainmaster : 8/24/2014 6:08 pm : link
I'm not saying (or didn't mean to say / imply) my opinion was at those extremes (wasted pick versus 2015 Eli replacement), those opinions have been expressed on BBI.

My main point / question was what is Nassib's current trade value and how sweet a deal would it have to be to accept a trade right now?

I think Eli will be the 2015 starter and Nassib will still be on the roster.
RE: Guys  
mrvax : 8/24/2014 6:53 pm : link
In comment 11823491 Trainmaster said:
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My main point / question was what is Nassib's current trade value and how sweet a deal would it have to be to accept a trade right now?

I think Eli will be the 2015 starter and Nassib will still be on the roster.


I'm thinking we NEED Nassib for this season. So, I'd require a first rounder to trade him right now and I doubt any team would pay that now.
mrvax  
Trainmaster : 8/24/2014 6:59 pm : link
I agree that I think it would take a first round pick to make it worth considering trading Nassib now and I seriously doubt we'd get that offer. Also, that would mean that Painter would be the second and only other QB on the roster; a scary prospect.

Saying a second rounder is not enough for Nassib is quite a turn around from earlier this year (based both on Nassib excellent play and Eli's less than stellar play so far in the new offense with the new OL).
Something to further consider  
BlackLight : 8/24/2014 7:02 pm : link
If the team craters this season, there's a good chance we'll have a nearly complete coaching staff overhaul, which likely means no McAdoo for 2015. It might be Nassib's job to win next summer, but his success might well hinge on who our new OC is.
No one is trading a 2nd  
Blue Blood : 8/24/2014 7:28 pm : link
for Nassib
I think there's an excellent chance Nassib starts against Detroit  
baadbill : 8/24/2014 7:30 pm : link
... I mean why wait for 2015?
Nassib will likely be the Giants next starting QB  
jeff57 : 8/24/2014 7:30 pm : link
I wouldn't trade him.
I'd take a middle of the road OL  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/24/2014 7:41 pm : link
or another 4th for him in a second.

Anyone who is convinced he is a sure fire starter after his limited work vs 2nd and third teamers who most likely won't be playing in the NFL 8in two weeks needs help.

Nassib may become a a great NFL QB for all I know but we used to hear what a stud Siniorce Moss was every year here.

Eli has looked like shit most of this preseason and yes Nassib is certainly more mobile but at this point Nassib isn't half the QB Eli is. He most likely won't take a meaningful snap all year unless Eli gets hurt.

Now with the shiftiest at OL that may happen but God is there some serious stupid on this thread.
A trade like this never happpens  
oldutican : 8/24/2014 7:44 pm : link
cause risk is too great for both teams. No one can have confidence of what he will become, so you can't set a value.
RE: Sometimes this site  
BMac : 8/24/2014 7:45 pm : link
In comment 11823420 rebel yell said:
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just makes me chuckle. This one did it for me.


Chuckle? How about rolling around laughing so hard that I couldn't catch my breath?
RE: Something to further consider  
BMac : 8/24/2014 7:53 pm : link
In comment 11823554 BlackLight said:
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If the team craters this season, there's a good chance we'll have a nearly complete coaching staff overhaul, which likely means no McAdoo for 2015. It might be Nassib's job to win next summer, but his success might well hinge on who our new OC is.


How long have you been following the Giants? Are you seriously saying that your scenario fits with the MO of this team? McAdoo isn't going to be gone next season; let's get real. This, as has been belabored here by those folks certainly more knowledgeable than I, is not a one-year fix.

I really have a difficult time rationalizing an irrational viewpoint. Perhaps you want to reconsider, give it some more thought, and then come back with something that resembles a scenario that could be contemplated.
He looks decent in  
bluepepper : 8/24/2014 7:53 pm : link
a couple of preseason outings against 2nd and 3rd teamers and people act like he's the second coming. LOL. Look around the league at some of the guys who played well in games this week. Shawn Tolzein, Bruce Gradkowski, Tom Savage and Matt Simms just to name a few all put up nice numbers. Anybody think someone's gonna trade a number 1 or 2 for those guys? It's a pass happy league. Almost anybody good enough to make an NFL roster can look decent in a game here or there.
RE: I'd take a middle of the road OL  
oldutican : 8/24/2014 7:58 pm : link
In comment 11823611 LauderdaleMatty said:
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or another 4th for him in a second.

Anyone who is convinced he is a sure fire starter after his limited work vs 2nd and third teamers who most likely won't be playing in the NFL 8in two weeks needs help.

Nassib may become a a great NFL QB for all I know but we used to hear what a stud Siniorce Moss was every year here.


By this logic, what a player does in college is of little value judging him.And Nassib was playing with teammates who won't be in the league in 2 weeks. I think he has shown he belongs in the league in some role. He is making good reads and decisions, he's throwing very well and he can move.
He's not being traded and he's not replacing Eli in 2015  
ZogZerg : 8/24/2014 8:02 pm : link
BBI. cracks me up with this delusional shit
He will be the back up to the  
Carl in CT : 8/24/2014 8:08 pm : link
FSU QB or the Oregon QB next year in NY
Nassib has proven he is better than eli in this offense  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/24/2014 8:23 pm : link
eli will be traded if my TTD resource is correct
RE: There is an old saying: you are only as good as your backup QB  
Danny Kanell : 8/24/2014 8:31 pm : link
In comment 11823406 SGMen said:
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Look at how many teams we beat last year because we faced backup QB's or QB's who plain old sucked.

If the Rams offered two #1's and a starting player we could really use this year I'd (maybe) pull the trigger but outside of that crazy price you keep Nassib and hope he isn't needed in 2014.


One of the funniest posts I've ever seen on this site.
RE: Nassib has proven he is better than eli in this offense  
Klaatu : 8/24/2014 8:38 pm : link
In comment 11823663 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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eli will be traded if my TTD resource is correct


How's the weather on your planet?
RE: RE: Nassib has proven he is better than eli in this offense  
baadbill : 8/24/2014 8:39 pm : link
In comment 11823674 Klaatu said:
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In comment 11823663 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:


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eli will be traded if my TTD resource is correct



How's the weather on your planet?


LOL ... too funny
RE: RE: I'd take a middle of the road OL  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/24/2014 8:57 pm : link
In comment 11823635 oldutican said:
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In comment 11823611 LauderdaleMatty said:


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or another 4th for him in a second.

Anyone who is convinced he is a sure fire starter after his limited work vs 2nd and third teamers who most likely won't be playing in the NFL 8in two weeks needs help.

Nassib may become a a great NFL QB for all I know but we used to hear what a stud Siniorce Moss was every year here.




By this logic, what a player does in college is of little value judging him.And Nassib was playing with teammates who won't be in the league in 2 weeks. I think he has shown he belongs in the league in some role. He is making good reads and decisions, he's throwing very well and he can move.


Um no. My logic is that playing well vs 2nd and third stingers does mean he a lock to be an NFL success. If you think it does than great. That's what I posted and that's what I meant.

My post meant exactly what wrote. Once a guy suits up[ in the NFL a guy's college resume is nice but its not nearly as important as what he does once he's with the big boys. It may keep him around longer than some UDFA but its not someting that should confer status not earned.. Plenty of players with great college success don't pan out year  after a year so sorry if I'd like to see a guy play vs starters before I anoint him un-tradable or only worth a high pick.

Lastly while this is an opinion its one I'm pretty sure of. No NFL GM is offering a high pick for Nassib at this time. And if he did he'd be nuts.
RE: RE: RE: I'd take a middle of the road OL  
oldutican : 8/24/2014 9:08 pm : link
In comment 11823699
Lastly while this is an opinion its one I'm pretty sure of. No NFL GM is offering a high pick for Nassib at this time. And if he did he'd be nuts. [/quote]

I agree.And NYG isn't trading him for a 4th or a JAG lineman. As I said, no one knows Nassib's value yet. And NYS haa an older QB with a huge deal who is coming off 2 poor seasons. Nassib won't be traded.
A 3rd would be great, but...  
Banks : 8/24/2014 9:53 pm : link
Nassib just recently regained his #2 spot. He has little trade value. Look around the league and you'll see many other young qbs doing well against camp fodder.
The Rams won't be calling. He doesn't help the Rams win now and may not in the future. If I'm the Rams, a 4th round pick is too much of a risk, let alone a #2. They have Shaun Hill who's proven to be a solid backup qb over his career. They will likely stick with him and worry about the franchise qb in the offseason.
He'll stay and hopefully continue to develop.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'd take a middle of the road OL  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/24/2014 10:05 pm : link
In comment 11823722 oldutican said:
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In comment 11823699
Lastly while this is an opinion its one I'm pretty sure of. No NFL GM is offering a high pick for Nassib at this time. And if he did he'd be nuts.


I agree.And NYG isn't trading him for a 4th or a JAG lineman. As I said, no one knows Nassib's value yet. And NYS haa an older QB with a huge deal who is coming off 2 poor seasons. Nassib won't be traded. [/quote]

Do you actually read the posts you disagree with then make up things that aren't in there? I said that's what I'd take after some pretty inane comments like he's untouchable except for All Pro lineman or a 1st or 2nd rounder. Where did I infer he'd be traded.

And I would take a JAG lineman on this this team as that guy might be the 2nd best player on that unit at this point.


Thanks also for ignoring the part where you totally misrepresented what I posted and now are thawing this in when I also said he may become a great player none of us knows.

Are you bored and like to examine posts an imply meaning that just isnt there?



I don't know that he has much of any right now...  
Dunedin81 : 8/24/2014 10:11 pm : link
a 4th would be a coup. He has talent and he has looked good in the preseason for the most part but nobody is going to hand him a starting job and a team looking at him as a backup is going to have the same concerns the Giants do PLUS the lack of familiarity with the system and the personnel on the gaining team.
Hypothetical for fun only  
SGMen : 8/24/2014 10:13 pm : link
Lets see Eli has an injury Thursday night on the first series which keeps him out for say the first 3 games of the season. If Nassib were to come in and light it up THEN he'd have some trade value because you'd have some live game material to work with. The pre-season is fine and the coach's watch in practice so they have a good idea of where someone is development and ability wise but the real games are the true measure.

Nassib isn't going anywhere this year. No chance, no way.
nassib could be  
SBlue46 : 8/25/2014 8:23 am : link
Future qb? Maybe after game 2, 2014
Nassib and Beason  
andrew_nyg : 8/25/2014 10:49 am : link
for Laurinitus...otherwise tell Jeff to go fuck himself.
Nassib doing well means one thing  
snumber6 : 8/25/2014 11:05 am : link
and one thing only ...
Curtis Painter's days here may be numbered and we will have a roster spot in another position of need ...
For a lot of people  
Big Al : 8/25/2014 11:09 am : link
here, he is back to being a wasted draft pick after the next bad game.
^^^ I agree ^^^  
montanagiant : 8/25/2014 11:30 am : link
I was all for the Nassib pick last season..But holy crap can we please real in this delusional theory that he is anything more then a work in progress that has yet to do squat in a real game??
Reel  
montanagiant : 8/25/2014 11:30 am : link
not Real
RE: ^^^ I agree ^^^  
njm : 8/25/2014 1:16 pm : link
In comment 11824286 montanagiant said:
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I was all for the Nassib pick last season..But holy crap can we please real in this delusional theory that he is anything more then a work in progress that has yet to do squat in a real game??


Agreed. And there's an economic reason to keep him. He's got 3 more years on his rookie contract. He's inexpensive. I'm not sure there's an exhaustive study, but it seems like a QB trade like this is more likely to happen when he only has 1 or 2 more years on his contract.
At this point  
MotownGIANTS : 8/25/2014 10:12 pm : link
he's done what a young backup should do improve....

Eli is 33 ... even if he rebounds you sign him to a 3 to 4 at most...

Nas continues to improve he slides in ... Peyton to Luck ... Montana to Young doesnt happen often.....

Why would they trade either?  
chitt17 : 8/28/2014 10:19 am : link
Eli is the starter .... period.

Nassib will see the field only if/when Eli is injured. That is Nassib's true value right now.

Talk about next year ...... next year. This season hasn't even started yet!
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