Like many others, my opinion of Nassib has completely changed during this preseason. From one extreme (a "wasted pick(s)") to the other extreme (Eli replacement for the 2015 season).
Many of us thought Nassib was at best someone to be showcased during pre-season in order to more than offset the 2013 draft picks spent on him and trade him away (e.g. a third or second rounder).
Nassib's success (albeit against 2nd and 3rd teamers) and Eli's struggles have raised the possibility that Nassib actually could be the 2015 starter (an unheard of possibility a month or so ago).
So, if another team came knocking (say the Rams after Bradford's injury), what would your asking price be? A third rounder seems too low. Would you part with Nassib for the Rams' second rounder? Although he's looked good, I doubt this preseason's success warrant a first rounder.
Would you trade Nassib today for a second rounder? For me personally, I think not.
If the Rams offered two #1's and a starting player we could really use this year I'd (maybe) pull the trigger but outside of that crazy price you keep Nassib and hope he isn't needed in 2014.
Nassib could be the QB of the future. I wouldn't take anything less than a 1st rounder for him right now.
Exactly. Maybe you jumped to a conclusion last year and you're doing it again. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Why can't people be happy that this guy appears to be a capable backup which allows the team to keep only 2 QBs?
Too many unknowns right now. Will Eli bounce back? (I think he will.) Will Nassib continue to improve in practice this year?
By the end of this season we will know what we have left in Eli and a good idea of how Nassib can perform.
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My main point / question was what is Nassib's current trade value and how sweet a deal would it have to be to accept a trade right now?
I think Eli will be the 2015 starter and Nassib will still be on the roster.
My main point / question was what is Nassib's current trade value and how sweet a deal would it have to be to accept a trade right now?
I think Eli will be the 2015 starter and Nassib will still be on the roster.
I'm thinking we NEED Nassib for this season. So, I'd require a first rounder to trade him right now and I doubt any team would pay that now.
Saying a second rounder is not enough for Nassib is quite a turn around from earlier this year (based both on Nassib excellent play and Eli's less than stellar play so far in the new offense with the new OL).
Anyone who is convinced he is a sure fire starter after his limited work vs 2nd and third teamers who most likely won't be playing in the NFL 8in two weeks needs help.
Nassib may become a a great NFL QB for all I know but we used to hear what a stud Siniorce Moss was every year here.
Eli has looked like shit most of this preseason and yes Nassib is certainly more mobile but at this point Nassib isn't half the QB Eli is. He most likely won't take a meaningful snap all year unless Eli gets hurt.
Now with the shiftiest at OL that may happen but God is there some serious stupid on this thread.
Chuckle? How about rolling around laughing so hard that I couldn't catch my breath?
How long have you been following the Giants? Are you seriously saying that your scenario fits with the MO of this team? McAdoo isn't going to be gone next season; let's get real. This, as has been belabored here by those folks certainly more knowledgeable than I, is not a one-year fix.
I really have a difficult time rationalizing an irrational viewpoint. Perhaps you want to reconsider, give it some more thought, and then come back with something that resembles a scenario that could be contemplated.
Anyone who is convinced he is a sure fire starter after his limited work vs 2nd and third teamers who most likely won't be playing in the NFL 8in two weeks needs help.
Nassib may become a a great NFL QB for all I know but we used to hear what a stud Siniorce Moss was every year here.
By this logic, what a player does in college is of little value judging him.And Nassib was playing with teammates who won't be in the league in 2 weeks. I think he has shown he belongs in the league in some role. He is making good reads and decisions, he's throwing very well and he can move.
If the Rams offered two #1's and a starting player we could really use this year I'd (maybe) pull the trigger but outside of that crazy price you keep Nassib and hope he isn't needed in 2014.
One of the funniest posts I've ever seen on this site.
How's the weather on your planet?
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eli will be traded if my TTD resource is correct
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LOL ... too funny
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or another 4th for him in a second.
Anyone who is convinced he is a sure fire starter after his limited work vs 2nd and third teamers who most likely won't be playing in the NFL 8in two weeks needs help.
Nassib may become a a great NFL QB for all I know but we used to hear what a stud Siniorce Moss was every year here.
By this logic, what a player does in college is of little value judging him.And Nassib was playing with teammates who won't be in the league in 2 weeks. I think he has shown he belongs in the league in some role. He is making good reads and decisions, he's throwing very well and he can move.
Um no. My logic is that playing well vs 2nd and third stingers does mean he a lock to be an NFL success. If you think it does than great. That's what I posted and that's what I meant.
My post meant exactly what wrote. Once a guy suits up[ in the NFL a guy's college resume is nice but its not nearly as important as what he does once he's with the big boys. It may keep him around longer than some UDFA but its not someting that should confer status not earned.. Plenty of players with great college success don't pan out year after a year so sorry if I'd like to see a guy play vs starters before I anoint him un-tradable or only worth a high pick.
Lastly while this is an opinion its one I'm pretty sure of. No NFL GM is offering a high pick for Nassib at this time. And if he did he'd be nuts.
Lastly while this is an opinion its one I'm pretty sure of. No NFL GM is offering a high pick for Nassib at this time. And if he did he'd be nuts. [/quote]
I agree.And NYG isn't trading him for a 4th or a JAG lineman. As I said, no one knows Nassib's value yet. And NYS haa an older QB with a huge deal who is coming off 2 poor seasons. Nassib won't be traded.
The Rams won't be calling. He doesn't help the Rams win now and may not in the future. If I'm the Rams, a 4th round pick is too much of a risk, let alone a #2. They have Shaun Hill who's proven to be a solid backup qb over his career. They will likely stick with him and worry about the franchise qb in the offseason.
He'll stay and hopefully continue to develop.
Lastly while this is an opinion its one I'm pretty sure of. No NFL GM is offering a high pick for Nassib at this time. And if he did he'd be nuts.
I agree.And NYG isn't trading him for a 4th or a JAG lineman. As I said, no one knows Nassib's value yet. And NYS haa an older QB with a huge deal who is coming off 2 poor seasons. Nassib won't be traded. [/quote]
Do you actually read the posts you disagree with then make up things that aren't in there? I said that's what I'd take after some pretty inane comments like he's untouchable except for All Pro lineman or a 1st or 2nd rounder. Where did I infer he'd be traded.
And I would take a JAG lineman on this this team as that guy might be the 2nd best player on that unit at this point.
Thanks also for ignoring the part where you totally misrepresented what I posted and now are thawing this in when I also said he may become a great player none of us knows.
Are you bored and like to examine posts an imply meaning that just isnt there?
Nassib isn't going anywhere this year. No chance, no way.
Curtis Painter's days here may be numbered and we will have a roster spot in another position of need ...
Agreed. And there's an economic reason to keep him. He's got 3 more years on his rookie contract. He's inexpensive. I'm not sure there's an exhaustive study, but it seems like a QB trade like this is more likely to happen when he only has 1 or 2 more years on his contract.
Eli is 33 ... even if he rebounds you sign him to a 3 to 4 at most...
Nas continues to improve he slides in ... Peyton to Luck ... Montana to Young doesnt happen often.....
Nassib will see the field only if/when Eli is injured. That is Nassib's true value right now.
Talk about next year ...... next year. This season hasn't even started yet!