BBI, I'll be the hardass, why don't more people contribute?

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And, it should start with a genuinely punitive amount. Like, say, a $100 fine for the first banning, $250 for the second banning, and $500 for the third banning. Then, after three bannings, the offending poster would have to pay a fine of $1,000 to be reinstated.

...gingers, amirite?

Yes, Wu, you're right.

Oh man! What a clever one you are!

Now, if only Mike McCreary was a banned BBI member.

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My bad, Wu.

You certainly know your gingers. Good for you!

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the reason more people don't donate is its not mandatory or required and people assume those who are able to afford it will.

In comment 11823581 YamaBike said:

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I think Eric should consider creating a "Banned-Member Fine" system. Similar to the way the NFL levies fines, the amount could increase with each subsequent banning. And, it should start with a genuinely punitive amount. Like, say, a $100 fine for the first banning, $250 for the second banning, and $500 for the third banning. Then, after three bannings, the offending poster would have to pay a fine of $1,000 to be reinstated. If a banned member truly loves BBI THAT much, and is willing to spend his/her money to be reinstated, then this "Banned-Member Fine" system could actually benefit the site. After all, as I've already stated, banned members CAN and DO continue to visit, and benefit from, BBI. Why not get some money from these people?

100 seems high for 1 banning but don't hate the idea. 50 for 1st offense,150 for 2nd and 500 for 3rd after that

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too! (You did just get married, right?)

or had a birthday. Or both

married not yet ... in the event planning stages!

Knew it was something like that. Don't want to jinx it.

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Is the number two reason why I do not contribute

donation sent

I love this site and just donated.

not because I do not like the website and not because I am cheap, it is because I refuse to pay for content on the internet. Any sites I have visited in the past that have gone the pay model I have moved on. This has been proven over and over that this model does not work (there are sites that have much more original content that have tried and failed to make this work). The way to make money on an internet website is advertising, which this site already does. To say you need to donate to keep it running is disingenuous if Eric could make more money making this site a subscription site he would, fact is he cant. One of the only things i don't like about this site is these posts asking for donations, it feels like taking advantage of people that don't really understand how the business side of the internet works.

I didn't contribute last year as I was laid off for a few months. I have contrubuted before that and should have done so in 2014 as I am employed and settled. Just too damn busy to even breathe, no excuse just the facts. Thanks for the kick in the ass, I will send a check to Eric. I check BBI daily and value this site and the varied opinions immensley.

Send me an email Eric when you get my check. Best,

Frank

a serious message is posted saying "BBI will be shutting down in 60 days unless X amount of money is raised."

Then you'll see the donations rolling in. Most people expect the site to be here regardless. Whether or not that's fair is for others to decide but I'm pretty sure that's how it is right now.

designate a substantial amount of our incomes every year between the two of us for St. jude's, Leukemia (the disease that took my dad), the PBA and our local fire department rain or shine. We visit hundreds of websites a week.

And whether or not people donate to bbi, there needs to be a call out thread for donations? Is everyone also donating to the Giants? Or Giants.com?

I enjoy the website and I won't disclose whether or not I donate. That said, you're not a hardass, you're just shortsighted.

if X amount of dollars to get some egregious troll banned? If we surpass it and hit our stretch goal, an automatic ban for anyone who posts a thread about cutting Eli or firing Coughlin after the first regular season loss...

I have my own selfish reasons for donating.

I donate because I spend way too much time on here hungrily snuffing up every thing I can of meaning about the Giants - and this site has it. I know and have met Eric and I know and have spent time with Gary - they are not making a lot of money doing this - they do it because they love doing it and they give of themselves until it hurts - I don't always agree with Eric - but I support him because of what he's been able to assemble, it's excellence, and the fact that I would be very unhappy if this site wasn't around.

When I'm able to - I give what I can - when times are tough - and I can't give - I don't.

The idea that everything on the internet should be free???? - That's a bunch of bull. Someone has to pay - the question is who should.

Given that - Eric purposely doesn't allow a lot of ads on BBI - and removes them when they disturb the quality of life here - he gets a pittance for the advertising; that he puts up with a lot of grief from a lot of morons all year round; that he spends a ton of time keeping this site ship-shape and posting insightful, biting, thought provoking and stimulating content, and remains very dedicated to all this - along with a full time job and a two kid nuclear family - makes it merit your consideration.

Ask yourself - what you value more - being able to visit this site - and would you have wished you gave something if you are/were able, and it would have made the difference in this site staying online or not .... If the answer is that you are able and really would rather give something to see the site remain - and wouldn't appreciate it not being around - then you should donate - you have reasons to.

For my money this is the finest NY Giants site anywhere - bar anything else that is available - it has provided me and my family and friends with outstanding opportunities as a fan - unavailable elsewhere - and I personally place a value on that which make it worth a few bucks every once and a while and I place that value forward so that I know that I have done what I can so it remain available to me.

Good post. I feel the same way. I spend too much time here not to contribute when asked to.
Eric, thanks for this great site.

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is the reason why I no longer donate to this site.

If the BBI powers-that-be actually put effort into a transparent, reasonable moderation system, I would be more than happy to open my checkbook.

Oh well.

But Joey crushing it made it worth reading.

Professional Bowling Association?

I actually find the idea of a donation campaign awkward. I'd honestly rather have Eric charge me 20 bucks a year or whatever to post here.

Eric solicits donations for the site, but doesn't provide much, if any context for what my donation should be. This isn't like going to the grocery store and being asked to figure out how much a pound of apples should cost. I literally have no clue what it costs Eric to keep the site running and I don't know what is expected of me or others. He has repeatedly turned down opening up his books to the very people he's asking for money from. Ultimately I still donate because I 100% believe Eric to be a genuine person just trying to keep a good thing going here. Even in the FAQ for the campaign, the question of "How much should I donate?" is answered with "Whatever you're comfortable with" or something.

Just give me a number. I value what this site provides and I'm happy to help support it (I donated the last two years). But I find the whole "name your own price" in a situation where I'm being asked to determine the "value" of his hard work and my enjoyment a bit off-putting.

Again, it's by no means a big deal or a deal-breaker for me. I just think it's strange creating a situation where guys like manh george all of sudden looking into the pockets of strangers for a monetary value that is personal and elusive.

/rant over?

we're just two peas in a pod

In comment 11823799 Route 9 in LEH said:

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we're just two peas in a pod

Route 9 - you were in the front of the line taking advantage - with your family and your little girl - for a once in a lifetime opportunity with Antrel Rolle - that was given to you courtesy of this site and the contributions of BBIers - That's how that trophy gets paid for

Except you care a bit more about me than I do.

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please go fuck yourself on a sledgehammer. Thanks

Did we meet? I don't think so. Only ones I met that day were Gary, Fish, and Sec 103. I don't remember meeting a gidie. Obviously, we didn't because I don't have a kid and came solo. Unless I have a mystery child I don't know about in Tallahassee. I posted the pictures for all the BBI eye to see. It was fun. I'll donate when Exit 172 is banned. Kidding. I do like him.

Opinions vary.

I'm not the type to call people out for not donating when it is not mandatory. I rather explain why I donate and hope that others feel the same way I do. I understand where and why threads like this get started because the OP hopes to generate feedback and donations for the site.

On the other hand, some of you guys have given some extremely disingenuous reasons for your decisions and I hate bad rationalizations. If you don't feel like it then don't donate. Pretty simple, if you ask me.

I didn't call anyone out, because I have no idea who contributed and who didn't. So, the first callout came from elsewhere. And a number of people here indicated that they needed a push, and responded.

Ironically, before posting this, I guessed who would be the biggest attackers. I wasn't disappointed.

When I first donated years before anyone ever did(and I was the ONLY one) and then years later helped him set up a P.O. Box for donations, that he needed to go to a semi-subscription site like Scout. Free stuff for many, but exclusive stuff (stories, premium message board, etc.) for a small monthly fee.

Now I know Eric recently said he was approached by Scout and turned them down, but that doesn't mean he can't use that model. It would triple his income*(at least) and no more begging and making people feel guilty who don't donate for whatever reason (income, principle, not getting a thank you note, etc.).

It would be easy to set up and more profitable and no more begging.

Win, win, win.

In comment 11823551 Headhunter said:

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when the ticket taker asks me for my ticket, I'll walk right past him and say I earned my money how dare you tell me how to spend it!

That really is an excellent analogy

Both for and against a donation drive.

Just my opinion, no matter your income or current situation, if you use the site for football info or many of the other threads that generate discussion you should kick some to the site. Be it even $1 it still adds up. This site has been a staple in many peoples lives for years and that deserves some kind of a contribution IMO...

that is your business, but to write about it makes me think you are a cheap fuck trying to make you feel better about yourself. If you don't want to donate , shut up about it and don't justify it by writing about your reasons
like that gives you credibility

In comment 11823890 Headhunter said:

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that is your business, but to write about it makes me think you are a cheap fuck trying to make you feel better about yourself. If you don't want to donate , shut up about it and don't justify it by writing about your reasons like that gives you credibility

so in a thread asking why more people don't donate, you tell people who give actual reasons to stfu?

And I urge all who can to do the same.

and mg was being a cunthead to him.

I donate some years. Others, I don't. Was going to this year and then got massively turned off by some of the drek that was allowed to post some amazingly offensive nonsense here. "Oh, they're sorry so they are allowed back after 5 seconds" is horseshit.

Maybe that will all change to me--but for now, fuck off.

HE deserves it. He works realy hard on this. Having joined with the cap stuff, I see how involved he is with things. Same with Gary. It's a team effort. I'd be up for that Scout model myself. Having said that, I should donate too.

you don't want to donate why should we want to know why? Are we supposed to have a come to Jesus moment and say to ourselves he/she are right, nobody should donate? You got your reasons keep them to yourself, Eric is asking for help to keep this going , I don't need to read your excuses. If it shuts down, I won't be able to anyway

In comment 11823904 Headhunter said:

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you don't want to donate why should we want to know why? Are we supposed to have a come to Jesus moment and say to ourselves he/she are right, nobody should donate? You got your reasons keep them to yourself, Eric is asking for help to keep this going , I don't need to read your excuses. If it shuts down, I won't be able to anyway

So stay off threads asking why?

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First the movie theater analogy. It's horrible. Eric doesn't require a contribution. A movie theater is a transaction- your money for their product. BBI is not- it's a voluntary donation.

Then, right in the OP is this:

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That means there are many, many hundreds who visit the site regularly, enjoy it in some fashion, and don't contribute a plugged nickel. What is that about? Is it the modern idea that everything on the Internet should be free? Is it laziness? Is it cheapness? Is it a suspicion that Eric is somehow double-dipping? (If it's that be man enough to say so.)

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If you don't want to donate , shut up about it and don't justify it by writing about your reasons like that gives you credibility

Awesome.