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M.S. : 8/25/2014 8:00 am
...so, many of us -- starting with me -- have botched the real meaning of this for years.

Why?

Because the phrase has always been taken out of context.

It does NOT mean "kill all the lawyers because we can't stand them, they just try to confuse us and cheat us with all their obscure legalism, etc..."

...rather, the phrase comes AFTER the expression about how to get rid of a democracy. First, "kill all the lawyers."

Whoda thunk it?

Not I.

I've botched the meaning for over 40 years.
kill all the lawyers  
blapre74 : 8/25/2014 8:09 am : link
it's a double entendre. It does mean what you say, but Will was a law clerk and he indeed hated the lawyers. btw, Dick the Butcher is about the only thing memorable about the play Henry VI
The DOD's respective JAGs...  
Dunedin81 : 8/25/2014 8:17 am : link
have banned the ice bucket challenge because it's an impermissible endorsement of the benefitting ALS charity. So yes, kill all the lawyers.
Lawyer joke time. This thread is now open for lawyer jokes and  
Marty in Albany : 8/25/2014 8:19 am : link
legal jokes of all kinds. Here's my favorite:

What do you call a lawyer who has an IQ of 50?
Answer: "Your Honor"

That's kind of a lawyer's lawyer joke.
Whoops! Gidie, no disrespect intended  
Marty in Albany : 8/25/2014 8:21 am : link
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Whatever Billy's meaning was  
Some Fan : 8/25/2014 8:22 am : link
is irrelevant because today it means the former in your post, i.e., get rid of the lawyers.
Just random google searching  
Bill L : 8/25/2014 8:46 am : link
sort of a rebuttal
Link - ( New Window )
Others:  
Moondwg : 8/25/2014 8:55 am : link
"the exception proves the rule."

This does not mean that a "real" rule has exceptions. Rather, simply that exceptions test rules.

Least surprising thing about this thread  
Rob in NYC : 8/25/2014 9:16 am : link
is that M.S. has been wrong about something for 40 years.

Most surprising?

He finally figured it out.
RE: Least surprising thing about this thread  
BrettNYG10 : 8/25/2014 9:17 am : link
In comment 11824019 Rob in NYC said:
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is that M.S. has been wrong about something for 40 years.

Most surprising?

He finally figured it out.


We all learn at our own pace.
you have your interpretation, i have mine  
oke49 : 8/25/2014 9:33 am : link
:>)
RE: The DOD's respective JAGs...  
RC02XX : 8/25/2014 9:56 am : link
In comment 11823939 Dunedin81 said:
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have banned the ice bucket challenge because it's an impermissible endorsement of the benefitting ALS charity. So yes, kill all the lawyers.


Hey you can always contribute to the CFC...because that's always been so damn effective.
RE: RE: The DOD's respective JAGs...  
Dunedin81 : 8/25/2014 10:03 am : link
In comment 11824070 RC02XX said:
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In comment 11823939 Dunedin81 said:


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have banned the ice bucket challenge because it's an impermissible endorsement of the benefitting ALS charity. So yes, kill all the lawyers.



Hey you can always contribute to the CFC...because that's always been so damn effective.


Nothing wrong with the CDC but having to listen to a twenty-minute spiel on the "Washington Post Test" and to then hear the guy talk triumphantly about how they had fixed the ALS issue was just fucking infuriating. How obtuse and stupid can you be to talk about official misconduct and ethics and appearances of impropriety without realizing that banning the rank and file from dumping water on themselves for charity fails the Washington Post test miserably.
RE: RE: RE: The DOD's respective JAGs...  
RC02XX : 8/25/2014 10:12 am : link
In comment 11824090 Dunedin81 said:
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Nothing wrong with the CDC but having to listen to a twenty-minute spiel on the "Washington Post Test" and to then hear the guy talk triumphantly about how they had fixed the ALS issue was just fucking infuriating. How obtuse and stupid can you be to talk about official misconduct and ethics and appearances of impropriety without realizing that banning the rank and file from dumping water on themselves for charity fails the Washington Post test miserably.


I hear you. But if you want to contribute, you can always do it in an unofficial capacity, or is that not even allowed?

And really, the CFC, while with greatest of intentions, is a shitty charity campaign that wastes a lot of time and money how it's ran, in my opinion.
Another example of popular misinterpretation  
Jim in Fairfax : 8/25/2014 10:59 am : link
Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken". It's popularly used in graduation speeches. The speaker usually cites it to encourage graduates to choose a harder and less popular course in life as a means of achieving success and life fulfillment.

But that's not the point Frost was making at all. Rather, it was that people look back believing they made some great (or horrible) choice at a momentous decision point in life. But in reality, their choices were practically indistinguishable and you'll never truly know if you made the right choice anyway.
RE: Another example of popular misinterpretation  
Cam in MO : 8/25/2014 11:06 am : link
In comment 11824210 Jim in Fairfax said:
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Robert Frost's "The Road Not Taken". It's popularly used in graduation speeches. The speaker usually cites it to encourage graduates to choose a harder and less popular course in life as a means of achieving success and life fulfillment.

But that's not the point Frost was making at all. Rather, it was that people look back believing they made some great (or horrible) choice at a momentous decision point in life. But in reality, their choices were practically indistinguishable and you'll never truly know if you made the right choice anyway.


Frost's point is still perfect for graduation speeches, IMO.

Add in a little, "You're all insignificant specks in the grand scheme of things and your life isn't going to amount to much. So the only thing to do is enjoy the ride and try to bring joy into the lives of all of the other insignificant specks that you encounter during your insignificant journey."


I prefer Yogi  
buford : 8/25/2014 11:09 am : link
'when you see a fork in the road, take it'.
In  
Big Al : 8/25/2014 11:15 am : link
high school, I wanted to kill all the English teachers.
RE: kill all the lawyers  
Reb8thVA : 8/25/2014 1:11 pm : link
In comment 11823931 blapre74 said:
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it's a double entendre. It does mean what you say, but Will was a law clerk and he indeed hated the lawyers. btw, Dick the Butcher is about the only thing memorable about the play Henry VI


Henry VI is a great play. Henry V and Richard III are probably better known, but I once sat through a four production of Henry VI by the Washington DC Shakespeare Theater that was just captivating.
The fact that you described the experience...  
manh george : 8/25/2014 1:51 pm : link
as having "sat through" is telling.
what do Lawyers use for birth control?  
gtt350 : 8/25/2014 2:36 pm : link






their personalities
RE: RE: RE: RE: The DOD's respective JAGs...  
Dunedin81 : 8/25/2014 2:41 pm : link
In comment 11824105 RC02XX said:
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In comment 11824090 Dunedin81 said:


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Nothing wrong with the CDC but having to listen to a twenty-minute spiel on the "Washington Post Test" and to then hear the guy talk triumphantly about how they had fixed the ALS issue was just fucking infuriating. How obtuse and stupid can you be to talk about official misconduct and ethics and appearances of impropriety without realizing that banning the rank and file from dumping water on themselves for charity fails the Washington Post test miserably.



I hear you. But if you want to contribute, you can always do it in an unofficial capacity, or is that not even allowed?

And really, the CFC, while with greatest of intentions, is a shitty charity campaign that wastes a lot of time and money how it's ran, in my opinion.


The whole out of uniform bit, sure, but the idea that you can't do charity in uniform is silly and selectively enforced. Here is something where servicemembers could do something that reflects well upon them and on their service and the objection is that it would constitute an official endorsement of the ALS charity. As though GOs appearing at charity balls - which is permitted under certain circumstances - doesn't do exactly the same thing.
What do you call 4 dead lawyers?  
GFL in WV : 8/25/2014 2:54 pm : link
A good start!!

What is the difference between a dead skunk and a lawyer in the middle of the road? There are skid marks around the skunk.

I'll be here all week folks, try the veal, tip your waiters and waitresses!!

Okay, old bad jokes, I know but I couldn't help myself.
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