NFT: Fantasy Football 8/25

First off, they have so much value on the trade market. There is a legit 8-10 guys that have the upside to be fantasy starters. If someone gets hurt, your backup has a ton of value.

Also to protect your QB if he gets hurt or underproduces...see Brady.

Because an injury to your starting QB can be a season ender. But I can't blame you for not wanting to pass up on a guy like Kelvin Benjy either. I'm pissed I missed out on him by a pick. He's already the teams #1 WR with a really talented QB throwing to him. He's going to put up numbers. Excellent value pick.

Greene and McCluster have been getting all touches with the starters and Sankey missed all of the rookie mini camp, with reports being he's behind on picking up the play book. Further, Battle seems to be getting goal-line touches - so that further erodes potential.

That's not to say he won't make a push, but I really think the McCluster pickup is going to eat into anyone's productivity in TEN and seems to have some packages specifically in place for him. Further, Greene and Battle will still likely be the guy in short yardage situations - meaning a lot of TDs are going to get eaten up by them (likely Greene).

I think he's great for a dynasty, but I wouldn't touch him until 8th/9th rounds, when you can afford to put a project on your bench.

Are tied at the hip. If Gronk is healthy, Vereen will kill. If Gronk goes down, defenses will key in on Vereen.

In comment 11824165 kmed said:

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First off, they have so much value on the trade market. There is a legit 8-10 guys that have the upside to be fantasy starters. If someone gets hurt, your backup has a ton of value. Also to protect your QB if he gets hurt or underproduces...see Brady.

Can't remember the last time a QB was traded in my league. I think it was 3-4 years ago when I had Rodgers and Matt Ryan, and Ryan blew up. But yeah, if there is an injury to Brady I guess i'm screwed, but there's only 3 or 4 teams with legit backups anyway, and they will likely stay on their bench all season but 1 week.

I'd rather roll the dice with another player and possibly find a late round starter (like Hyde for example).

In comment 11824153 kmed said:

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it's RB. Obviously a great deal of risk comes with it, but rookie QB's, TE's and WR's rarely produce for fantasy purposes. There is a much longer list of RB's that have been fantasy relevant.

Facts do not support this, but why is that unusual

top 20 rookie RB seasons the past 20 years (and 5 come from Mike Shanahan RB's): http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/top-20-rookie-running-back-seasons-in-the-past-20-years.aspx

top 20 rookie WR seasons the past 20 years

http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/top-20-rookie-receiving-seasons-in-the-past-20-years.aspx

It's very close, but the 20th WR is probably better in FFL (in my ppr league).

and Mike Shanahan isn't coaching a rookie RB.

I think I picked a balanced team in the standard draft 12 team PPR league I am in. I had the 10th pick

QB: Peyton Manning, Tannehill (Manning's bye week MIA plays Oakland)

RB: LeVeon Bell, Ben Tate, Chris Johnson, Carlos Hyde, Terrance West

WR: Antonio Brown, Julian Edelman, Golden Tate, Mike Evans, James Jones, Marqise Lee

TE: Jason Witten

K: Janikowski

DST: Broncos

You guys rank these TEs: Rudolph, Pitta, and Cameron

And for qbs: Stafford cutler and Rivers?

I have the opportunity to have him as a 3rd round keeper this year. Good or bad idea? I pick 5th out of 10 team league, non-PPR. Thanks…

In comment 11824160 AnotherGiantsFan said:

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You don't have to convince me about Shane Vereen. I love the guy. But I could have sworn I posted on here talking about how I might reach for him in round 4 and you told me that's a little too rich and should just wait in round 5. Did you taking him in the 3rd due to it being a keeper league, or did you have a change of heart on Vereen? Or do I have the wrong guy pegged?

yes, I read the Pats are considering cutting Ridley, I listened to how much Belichick hates Ridley, from the fumbles to running the wrong plays. he wants Vereen and White to be the backs. I always felt like it he were healthy vereen is a breakout candidate, but he's never healthy, so I rolled the dice.

clarify this for me....

I'm not drafting a rookie early, so I don't need a rookie to be a stud, I'm just talking about being a starter. Maybe a flex. What are the odds that a rookie RB vs a rookie WR will be fantasy relevant? Doesn't mean they have to be Clinton Portis.

In comment 11824178 EricNY33 said:

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I think I picked a balanced team in the standard draft 12 team PPR league I am in. I had the 10th pick QB: Peyton Manning, Tannehill (Manning's bye week MIA plays Oakland) RB: LeVeon Bell, Ben Tate, Chris Johnson, Carlos Hyde, Terrance West WR: Antonio Brown, Julian Edelman, Golden Tate, Mike Evans, James Jones, Marqise Lee TE: Jason Witten K: Janikowski DST: Broncos

Balance? Good, you have balance, but you sure lack top end talent. I'm assumeing bell went in rd 2, who else was available?

In comment 11824181 davek3698 said:

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I have the opportunity to have him as a 3rd round keeper this year. Good or bad idea? I pick 5th out of 10 team league, non-PPR. Thanks…

I definitely would not do it. First, I think Bell will be slightly more productive than Bush this year and second, you can get a much better player in the 3rd rd, IMO.

In comment 11824181 davek3698 said:

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I have the opportunity to have him as a 3rd round keeper this year. Good or bad idea? I pick 5th out of 10 team league, non-PPR. Thanks…

Bad... he's a few more fumbles away from losing the starting job imo. I think he'll have a similar yr Ridleys last season.

In comment 11824184 kmed said:

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clarify this for me.... I'm not drafting a rookie early, so I don't need a rookie to be a stud, I'm just talking about being a starter. Maybe a flex. What are the odds that a rookie RB vs a rookie WR will be fantasy relevant? Doesn't mean they have to be Clinton Portis.

The guy above has Sankey as his RB2. It's admittedly not a good spot to be, but would you rather have sankey as your RB2 or Sammy Watkins as your WR2?

Neither are good propositions, but right now Sankey is backing up Greene and McCluster (though that's a technicality but that's how the depth chart reads).

In comment 11824168 UAGiant said:

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Greene and McCluster have been getting all touches with the starters and Sankey missed all of the rookie mini camp, with reports being he's behind on picking up the play book. Further, Battle seems to be getting goal-line touches - so that further erodes potential. That's not to say he won't make a push, but I really think the McCluster pickup is going to eat into anyone's productivity in TEN and seems to have some packages specifically in place for him. Further, Greene and Battle will still likely be the guy in short yardage situations - meaning a lot of TDs are going to get eaten up by them (likely Greene). I think he's great for a dynasty, but I wouldn't touch him until 8th/9th rounds, when you can afford to put a project on your bench.

I think he is being over drafted. I over drafted him. But they have the most un-dynamic backfield in the NFL without him. Sooner or later he will be their full time starter, just a matter of when. Hopefully its before mid-season. If so I think i'll be in good shape. McCluster won't get carries so he's literally all they have. Greene is a pitiful runner.

In comment 11824081 allstarjim said:

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Could not be more pleased. 10 team league... Standard scoring (money league). Picked 8th: Qb: Aaron Rodgers Rb: Rashad Jennings Rb: CJ Spiller Wr: Alshon Jeffrey Wr: Cordarelle Patterson Te: Jimmy Graham Flex: Shane Vereen Bn: Nick Foles Bn: Jeremy Maclin Bn: Hakeem Nicks Bn: Josh Gordon Bn: Andre Williams Bn: Golden Tate K: Blair Walsh DEF: Rams

I'm willing to bet that your first 6 picks were very similar to what I picked in my mock draft, I have the 8th pick. The only differences was that I was able to get Randall Cobb and Fred Jackson.

If my real draft goes similar to the mock (see below) I think I may really like my team. I would like to have picked up one more receiver though, instead of a RB.

QBs- Brees,C. Palmer
RBs- R. Jennings, Spiller, Fred Jackson, Moreno, Sproles
WRs- Cobb, Jeffery, Hilton
TE- Graham, M. Bennett
Defense- 49ers
Kicker- Prater (not picking him up now due to his suspension)

than Watkins my WR2. Zero question about it.

Last season prior to week 3 for Jamaal Charles. That trade led me to the championship game (that I lost). I doubt I will get that lucky again, but Files slipped and I drafted him as a backup, and I may try to trade him for a RB (obviously won't get a Jamaal Charles again). There are some guys who are counting on Kaepernick to get them there, ain't gonna happen.

In comment 11824197 UConn4523 said:

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than Watkins my WR2. Zero question about it.

but if you start him you're basically starting a guy who isn't even a lock to touch the ball.

Hyde will probably get more carries than Sankey early on.

In comment 11824186 kmed said:

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In comment 11824178 EricNY33 said: Quote: I think I picked a balanced team in the standard draft 12 team PPR league I am in. I had the 10th pick QB: Peyton Manning, Tannehill (Manning's bye week MIA plays Oakland) RB: LeVeon Bell, Ben Tate, Chris Johnson, Carlos Hyde, Terrance West WR: Antonio Brown, Julian Edelman, Golden Tate, Mike Evans, James Jones, Marqise Lee TE: Jason Witten K: Janikowski DST: Broncos Balance? Good, you have balance, but you sure lack top end talent. I'm assumeing bell went in rd 2, who else was available?

Well I forgot to mention that the following guys were kept and not available:

Aaron Rodgers, DeMarco Murray, A.J. Green, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, LeSean McCoy, Matt Forte, Jimmy Graham, Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, and Jamal Charles. My keeper was Peyton Manning.

I actually got Bell in the 3rd round. I could've gone Doug Martin, Zac Stacy, or Alfred Morris there.

In comment 11824200 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 11824197 UConn4523 said: Quote: than Watkins my WR2. Zero question about it. but if you start him you're basically starting a guy who isn't even a lock to touch the ball. Hyde will probably get more carries than Sankey early on.

I'm fine with that if that's even how it happens. Blount will get plenty of touches and all goalline work. I'm fine with a weak RB2 until Sankey is the fulltime starter.

But the Sankey stuff seems overblown. Too much talent to let sit, and they could be downplaying his role, who knows.

Doug Martin over Bell.

but not bad. martin's health scares me and Bell's suspension/losing goal-line touches to Blount scares me.

And regret it, but I don't fear a suspension at all. He's not going to miss any games. It's Blount taking away carries and goal line carries that bothers me.

and it is a 16 team league, .5 ppr. Should be interesting.

I have the 6th pick. No idea what type of strategy to have in a 16 team league.

In comment 11824209 pjcas18 said:

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Doug Martin over Bell. but not bad. martin's health scares me and Bell's suspension/losing goal-line touches to Blount scares me.

Bell won't be suspended this year because the CBA doesn't have suspension parameters for DUI's. The Steelers could suspend him, but not the NFL. Dwayne Bowe got arrested for speeding and marijuana possession last November and is serving his one game suspension on opening day.

The losing touches to Blount thing doesn't bother me because Bell is also a good receiving back and this is a PPR league.

In comment 11824218 EricNY33 said:

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In comment 11824209 pjcas18 said: Quote: Doug Martin over Bell. but not bad. martin's health scares me and Bell's suspension/losing goal-line touches to Blount scares me. Bell won't be suspended this year because the CBA doesn't have suspension parameters for DUI's. The Steelers could suspend him, but not the NFL. Dwayne Bowe got arrested for speeding and marijuana possession last November and is serving his one game suspension on opening day. The losing touches to Blount thing doesn't bother me because Bell is also a good receiving back and this is a PPR league.

Didn't bell also test positive for marijuana? He wasn't drunk, he was driving on marijuana.

Will Hill tested positive for marijuana and was suspended 4 games same season IIRC.

In comment 11824228 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 11824218 EricNY33 said: Quote: In comment 11824209 pjcas18 said: Quote: Doug Martin over Bell. but not bad. martin's health scares me and Bell's suspension/losing goal-line touches to Blount scares me. Bell won't be suspended this year because the CBA doesn't have suspension parameters for DUI's. The Steelers could suspend him, but not the NFL. Dwayne Bowe got arrested for speeding and marijuana possession last November and is serving his one game suspension on opening day. The losing touches to Blount thing doesn't bother me because Bell is also a good receiving back and this is a PPR league. Didn't bell also test positive for marijuana? He wasn't drunk, he was driving on marijuana. Will Hill tested positive for marijuana and was suspended 4 games same season IIRC.

Well if you're arrested for a DUI you test positive for that substance, but from what I am reading the NFL won't act until the legal process has run its course.

Someone rank these 3 pls
Rudolph, Cameron, and Pitta

For you to get suspended for pot.

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In comment 11824250 jlukes said:

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STARTERS
QB T Brady
WR D Thomas
WR AJ Green
RB Doug Martin
WR/RB/TE V Cruz
TE J Reed
K D Bailey
DEF Giants

BENCH
RB R Jennings
WR M Wallace
WR J Hunter
QB P Rivers

configured to start just 1 RB?

Mine all need 2, I'd love that change, we have 2WR, 2RB, 1 Flex, sometimes 2 if no TE mandatory.

Is that a new trend?

The 12 team league I did my draft in already is QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 Flex, TE, D/ST, K

It makes you dig deep and not only care a lot about the back of the draft, but to keep a close eye on the wire. It's a little boring when every starter is a stud.

but I wouldn't mind them being flex, the last two people who posted their teams had two WR's and 1RB and a flex.

In comment 11824309 AnotherGiantsFan said:

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The 12 team league I did my draft in already is QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 Flex, TE, D/ST, K It makes you dig deep and not only care a lot about the back of the draft, but to keep a close eye on the wire. It's a little boring when every starter is a stud.

This is the setup in both of the leagues I am in and you're right... you have to pay attention to everything.

I have Rudolph ahead of Cameron mostly due to Norv Turner Switching over... and there being more weapons on the Vikings to attract attention away from Kyle.

hey Keith did you put together another fantasy cheatsheet this year?

If so can you email it to me please? It was really helpful last year.

damdevs@bellsouth.net

thanks man!

In comment 11824318 EricNY33 said:

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In comment 11824309 AnotherGiantsFan said: Quote: The 12 team league I did my draft in already is QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 Flex, TE, D/ST, K It makes you dig deep and not only care a lot about the back of the draft, but to keep a close eye on the wire. It's a little boring when every starter is a stud. This is the setup in both of the leagues I am in and you're right... you have to pay attention to everything.

Mine are too, just one league has no TE mandatory, but two flexes.

waiver wire has slim pickings.

Took a flyer on Corey Washington. Was planning on using it for josh Gordon, but it had to be a homer

Someone used to always offer some comprehensive rankings spreadsheet that factored in numerous FF websites rankings. Was that offered this year? Anyone know? Thanks in advance.

In comment 11824331 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 11824318 EricNY33 said: Quote: In comment 11824309 AnotherGiantsFan said: Quote: The 12 team league I did my draft in already is QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 Flex, TE, D/ST, K It makes you dig deep and not only care a lot about the back of the draft, but to keep a close eye on the wire. It's a little boring when every starter is a stud. This is the setup in both of the leagues I am in and you're right... you have to pay attention to everything. Mine are too, just one league has no TE mandatory, but two flexes. waiver wire has slim pickings.

Yeah love deeper leagues makes you work every week to put out a good lineup..no easy wins and no superteams...you have to atually pick players up and make moves to win...

My 12 team league Qb 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 K 1 Def 6 BN...15 round draft...takes us about 3-4 hours for the draft...

My 10 team league 1 QB 2 RB 2 Wr 1 Flex (RB, WR, TE) 1 TE 1 K 1 Def...17 round Draft takes about 2 hours...

1 is Saturday the other is Monday night love draft nights..

Did three mocks last night. Standard scoring.
RB-WR-RB, TE-QB-WR and RB-RB-RB.

TEAM 1 (RB-WR-RB)
QB: Romo, Cutler
RB: Charles, Morris, Sankey, S. Jax and Sproles.
WR: Marshall, R.White, Cruz, Colston and Cooper
TE: V.Davis

TEAM 2 (TE-QB-WR)
QB: Rodgers, Dalton
RB: Sankey, Richardson, S. Jax, Sproles
WR: J.Jones, Garcon, Cruz, Decker, Cooper
TE: Graham

TEAM 3 (RB-RB-RB)
QB: Wilson, Rivers, Dalton
RB: Charles, Bernard, Morris, S. Jax
WR: Garcon, Fitz, Hilton, E.Sanders, Cooks
TE: Clay

If Im going Graham RD1 I'm hoping to get pick 6 or later but sill debating taking him with pick 1-5. Its crazy I know. I think TEAM 2 would be better if I didn't take Rodgers and went with a Bell or Foster late in RD2.

for a few years.

it's great until you're the guy with Cody Pickett or John Skelton at QB.

I like have it so people can't auto-draft set their lineups and get handed cash, but it's also got to be some skill involved versus luck.

10 team league

Qbs
Colin kaepernick
Phillip rivers

Rbs
Zac stacy
Rashad jennings
Ryan matthews
Bishop sankey

Wrs
Aj green
Brandon Marshall
Roddy white
Mike wallace
Josh gordon
Kelvin benjamin
Odell beckham

TE
Kyle rudolph

In comment 11824408 NewYorkGiants said:

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10 team league Qbs Colin kaepernick Phillip rivers Rbs Zac stacy Rashad jennings Ryan matthews Bishop sankey Wrs Aj green Brandon Marshall Roddy white Mike wallace Josh gordon Kelvin benjamin Odell beckham TE Kyle rudolph

I am guessing you went WR 1-2 which worked for you got a very good 1-2 punch with a very good 3rd WR in White...

I dont think your RB situation is that bad..I am souring on Stacy more and more though...I think by the end of the season you will be starting Jennings and Mathews With Sankey as your 3rd RB...I like Sankey i know many here are worried about him but i think he eventually he is the starter in Tennessee...

Kaepernick hopefully is healthy last year he dealt with a foot injury for most of the year...you may be starting Rivers a lot though...he is really good in that new offense they installed last year and he has some weapons..

drafts on Sunday. Where's the kmed sheet?

In comment 11824408 NewYorkGiants said:

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10 team league Qbs Colin kaepernick Phillip rivers Rbs Zac stacy Rashad jennings Ryan matthews Bishop sankey Wrs Aj green Brandon Marshall Roddy white Mike wallace Josh gordon Kelvin benjamin Odell beckham TE Kyle rudolph

Was Rodgers on the board when you took Marshall?

In comment 11824408 NewYorkGiants said:

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10 team league Qbs Colin kaepernick Phillip rivers Rbs Zac stacy Rashad jennings Ryan matthews Bishop sankey Wrs Aj green Brandon Marshall Roddy white Mike wallace Josh gordon Kelvin benjamin Odell beckham TE Kyle rudolph

It looks like a last place team. First time? Was high and/or drunk?