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Remember that Schofield guy from back when who got away?

Semipro Lineman : 8/25/2014 5:24 pm
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Schofield was set to turn his success as a member of the Super Bowl champion Seahawks into a lucrative contract this offseason. Schofield agreed to terms on a two-year, $8 million deal to join the New York Giants only to have the deal voided after he failed his physical.

Schofield said he has a bone-on-bone issue in his left knee. It's the same knee in which he suffered a torn ACL during Senior Bowl practices in 2010. However, Schofield said it has never affected his ability to perform on the field.


Anyway, he has like two sacks and four tackles for losses in three preseason games. Damn what was Jerry thinking, signing this guy? Thank goodness BBI and other Giant fans rose up in outrage causing him to back out of the contract or we would have been screwed. Screwed, I tell you..




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are you suggesting  
SDGiant : 8/25/2014 5:25 pm : link
the Giants GM backed out a contract because he reads BBI?
Semi,  
Big Blue '56 : 8/25/2014 5:27 pm : link
I still would love to know how that contract broke down and how much was guaranteed and how much was his first year salary
I'd read he's been making an impact  
JonC : 8/25/2014 5:27 pm : link
Failed physical also gave them enough money to sign DRC instead, there was probably more than endgame in play.
SD Giant  
Samiam : 8/25/2014 5:29 pm : link
I not only read BBI but post as well.

Sincerely

Jerry Reese

By the way, I think Schofield failed the physical.
RE: are you suggesting  
Semipro Lineman : 8/25/2014 5:29 pm : link
In comment 11824866 SDGiant said:
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the Giants GM backed out a contract because he reads BBI?


Not seriously but worth noting that a few people felt that the Giants "failed" him based on the overall reaction in the media to the signing...
RE: Semi,  
Semipro Lineman : 8/25/2014 5:32 pm : link
In comment 11824867 Big Blue '56 said:
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I still would love to know how that contract broke down and how much was guaranteed and how much was his first year salary


The usual sources for information about contracts don't have any incentive to talk about it. Either the Giants or his agent would gain anything or more likely in the Giants case, care enough about the overpayment issue to release those details to make themselves look good.
RE: are you suggesting  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/25/2014 5:33 pm : link
In comment 11824866 SDGiant said:
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the Giants GM backed out a contract because he reads BBI?


lol.. this. My opinion on the Schofield deal is known so I won't get into it, but this has to be one of the dumbest threads I've seen in a while.

Jerry Reese backing out on the deal has nothing to do with BBI's outrage, and even if it did, he wouldn't have been proven wrong because he has two preseason sacks.

Wow.
what's your point?  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2014 5:34 pm : link
he failed a physical.

The team who watched him practice every day for the past year offered him only a one year deal for 730k.

that's how much they love him. I believe that's vet min.

and furthermore who cares about pre-season sats. Justin trattou and Adewale Ojomo probably have double-digit pre-season stats.

preseason  
pjcas18 : 8/25/2014 5:35 pm : link
"sacks"
RE: RE: are you suggesting  
Big Blue '56 : 8/25/2014 5:36 pm : link
In comment 11824878 Mike in Long Beach said:
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In comment 11824866 SDGiant said:


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the Giants GM backed out a contract because he reads BBI?



lol.. this. My opinion on the Schofield deal is known so I won't get into it, but this has to be one of the dumbest threads I've seen in a while.

Jerry Reese backing out on the deal has nothing to do with BBI's outrage, and even if it did, he wouldn't have been proven wrong because he has two preseason sacks.

Wow.


Huh? Do you actually think it wasn't said in jest? That even ONE person believes BBI has anything to do with Giants' decisions?
BB'56  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/25/2014 5:38 pm : link
I don't know what to tell you. Read the OP again. It's clearly calling out BBI for erroneously hating on the deal based on two preseason sacks and implies that BBI (or pressure from Giants fans) caused Reese to back out of the deal. The only thing in jest was the heavy-handed sarcasm against people who didn't like the deal.
Reese  
SBlue46 : 8/25/2014 5:39 pm : link
Used him to sign beason...
beason had no agent so nyg
tricked him
RE: BB'56  
Big Blue '56 : 8/25/2014 5:40 pm : link
In comment 11824887 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I don't know what to tell you. Read the OP again. It's clearly calling out BBI for erroneously hating on the deal based on two preseason sacks and implies that BBI (or pressure from Giants fans) caused Reese to back out of the deal. The only thing in jest was the heavy-handed sarcasm against people who didn't like the deal.


The OP wrote in part:

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...Thank goodness BBI and other Giant fans rose up in outrage causing him to back out of the contract or we would have been screwed. Screwed, I tell you..


He was being totally facetious..
This town needs an enima  
JonC : 8/25/2014 5:41 pm : link
Virtually every thread and post is ranging from snark to vitriol.
Yeah, I think you're missing his point, but who knows.  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/25/2014 5:42 pm : link
By jokingly saying "We would have been screwed. Screwed I tell you." Obviously, if he's using sarcasm properly, he's implying that we wouldn't have been screwed and we should have stuck with him.

This is a really stupid thing to post about any further, though.
I thought it was pretty obvious sarcasm  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 8/25/2014 5:56 pm : link
myself.
Seattle's defense is not the same as ours  
Bill in UT : 8/25/2014 5:58 pm : link
"as Pete Carroll put it:

"Our defense is a 4-3 scheme with 3-4 personnel. It's just utilizing the special talents of our guys." "

So Schofield may not have fit into our scheme at all.
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Schofield looked very fast off the edge and very good to me..  
arcarsenal : 8/25/2014 5:59 pm : link
When I saw the Seahawks last week or the week before that.

I was surprised our staff deemed that he was not healthy enough to sign because it sure didn't look that way to me.

Yeah, it's preseason, I get that. But the dude was in the backfield pressuring the QB on like every other play I saw. He certainly looked good.

But we should probably not re-hash this whole argument.
Was he having this success with the starters  
Ira : 8/25/2014 6:07 pm : link
or with the 2's or 3's?
Remember that Schofield guy from back when who got away?  
Deej : 8/25/2014 6:08 pm : link
Honestly, no, so I thought this was a thread about Prison Break.
Schofield's a good pass rusher  
bc4life : 8/25/2014 6:23 pm : link
he's proven that in real games last year and when he was with the Cards. The hangup was over the condition of the knee.
...  
GP : 8/25/2014 6:38 pm : link
Mike, sometimes your opinions and reading comprehension is so skewed by narcissism, it makes my teeth hurt.
RE: ...  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/25/2014 6:56 pm : link
In comment 11824964 GP said:
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Mike, sometimes your opinions and reading comprehension is so skewed by narcissism, it makes my teeth hurt.


You might want to look up the word narcissism. This thread has zero to do with me. And I hope the irony of you bringing up reading comprehension on a thread where you seem to be misunderstanding the simplest rules of sarcasm isn't lost on you.

Again dipshit, read my comment. If he's sarcastic when he says it's a good thing Reese cut bait, then he believes the opposite is the truth. That we should've kept him... This based on two preseason sacks.

I'm sorry about your teeth.
Some guys can do it  
RetroJint : 8/25/2014 7:46 pm : link
Mantle tore all 3 ligs in the World Series because of the uncapped drain in the outfield at the Stadium. He went on to have in 55 & 56 probably the best seasons that any baseball player will ever have. Charles Mann of the Redskins played 4 seasons without an ACL in one knee. Blair, the forward from Pitt U, who played for San Antonio in the NBA, doesn't have an ACL in either knee. Schofield looked good when I saw him. & Manningham looks as brittle as a potato chip. So go figure .
Well, if Reese makes transactions because  
Gman11 : 8/25/2014 8:33 pm : link
he reads BBI then Boone is a Giant tomorrow and Eli is a goner.
Actually  
Semipro Lineman : 8/25/2014 8:51 pm : link
I just wanted to break up all the Martin, Martin, Martin, Oline, Oline, JPP is/isn't back, Reese blew it, etc... stuff that we were hyperventilating on recently. And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for that meddling kid fek
Also  
Semipro Lineman : 8/25/2014 9:01 pm : link
I thought the Giants handled it reasonably well. Relatively big contract to an up and coming athletic player means a higher standard in the physical. And it's understandable that the Giant's risk tolerance would be pretty low after the injury plagued 2013 season.

But unfortunately that means the Seahawks are going to benefit by being able to retain a good role player at a reasonable cost which normally contenders aren't able to do once they're eligible for free agency. (His former Seattle teammate Walter Thurmond is a clear cut example)
Let me get this straight.  
Hakeem The Dream : 8/25/2014 11:00 pm : link
The Giants signed a guy to a mid-tier contract and then find out he has an injury to a knee that has previously had a torn ACL (Schofield admitted that he has it) and you're mad that they failed him and voided the deal? Maybe the team realized that after getting shellacked by injuries last year, causing the first losing season in years, they decided to play it safe. Maybe Reese is trying to learn from his mistakes.
I understood the sarcasm immediately, but of course  
BigBlueBuff : 8/26/2014 1:19 am : link
I can't read. Still though, it's strange that we can all be so wrong... <== SARCASM
RE: Some guys can do it  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2014 8:13 am : link
In comment 11825022 RetroJint said:
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Mantle tore all 3 ligs in the World Series because of the uncapped drain in the outfield at the Stadium. He went on to have in 55 & 56 probably the best seasons that any baseball player will ever have. Charles Mann of the Redskins played 4 seasons without an ACL in one knee. Blair, the forward from Pitt U, who played for San Antonio in the NBA, doesn't have an ACL in either knee. Schofield looked good when I saw him. & Manningham looks as brittle as a potato chip. So go figure .


Bone on Bone is quite different. Nothing to invest in for the longer term
Reese reading BBI?  
Montreal Man : 8/26/2014 9:14 am : link
It was a joke. A joke.
He admits  
Doomster : 8/26/2014 9:28 am : link
he has a bone on bone condition.....

Would you give 8M for someone with that condition?

We have given big contracts to players who can't stay on the field....we are going to give one to someone who fails a physical, and his next bad step could be the end of his career?

Mantle was a freak of nature...he was a "Natural"....will always remember the story of him and Williams talking about hitting....Williams tells Mantle all the nuances of his swing....Mantle shakes his head...."I just swing as hard as I can"....How Mantle ever put up those numbers with two bad knees and a bum shoulder, will always amaze me....
To me, this validates Reese on both accounts.  
BeerFridge : 8/26/2014 10:23 am : link
He's had a very good preseason, validating the handing out of the contract. And he's admitted to a medical condition that definitely would risk a longer term deal and is worthy of yanking an offer off the table.
RE: To me, this validates Reese on both accounts.  
Semipro Lineman : 8/26/2014 10:45 am : link
In comment 11825692 BeerFridge said:
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He's had a very good preseason, validating the handing out of the contract. And he's admitted to a medical condition that definitely would risk a longer term deal and is worthy of yanking an offer off the table.


Is this sarcasm? :-)
RE: He admits  
arcarsenal : 8/26/2014 10:52 am : link
In comment 11825540 Doomster said:
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he has a bone on bone condition.....

Would you give 8M for someone with that condition?

We have given big contracts to players who can't stay on the field....we are going to give one to someone who fails a physical, and his next bad step could be the end of his career?

Mantle was a freak of nature...he was a "Natural"....will always remember the story of him and Williams talking about hitting....Williams tells Mantle all the nuances of his swing....Mantle shakes his head...."I just swing as hard as I can"....How Mantle ever put up those numbers with two bad knees and a bum shoulder, will always amaze me....


8M guaranteed? No. And that's certainly not how the deal would have been structured.
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