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Schwartz injury update

dairborn : 8/26/2014 9:24 am
Giants are calling it week to week after about a 7 to 10 day period for the dislocated toe.
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Best News  
GiveShockeyTheBall : 8/26/2014 9:25 am : link
We could have hoped for!
Cool, if accurate  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2014 9:25 am : link
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GiveShockeyTheBall : 8/26/2014 9:26 am : link
“This is just a minor setback,” said Schwartz. “I plan on attacking the rehab program so I can get back on the field as soon as possible with my teammates and help us win games.”
that's about as good  
Bill in UT : 8/26/2014 9:26 am : link
as you could have hoped for
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rptl530 : 8/26/2014 9:26 am : link
Sweet...
rptl530 : 9:25 am : link : reply

best news you could hope for, I suppose.
That would be the best possible news  
BillT : 8/26/2014 9:26 am : link
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He'll be in the boot 7-10 days  
Ira : 8/26/2014 9:27 am : link
then begin rehab.
Good that he's not being IR'd  
ZogZerg : 8/26/2014 9:27 am : link
but there is no time table for his return.
Does he go to the short term IR slot?
Week Three return?  
George : 8/26/2014 9:30 am : link
It could happen.
If the guy was a warrior he could just  
Bill in UT : 8/26/2014 9:30 am : link
amputate the damn toe. He'd be ready in a week and would hardly miss it.
Best  
AcidTest : 8/26/2014 9:30 am : link
news possible. No short term IR. Walking boot for seven to ten days carries him up to week one, then maybe he misses another three games while rehabbing. So four games total. Hopefully. Just carry and deactivate him for those weeks.

Get well soon Geoff!
How do we have folks going from a season-ending prognosis  
BurberryManning : 8/26/2014 9:30 am : link
to week-to-week? Was this simply a bout of incredible overreaction or was there ever really that large of a potential spread on the consequences of a toe injury?
That sounds better than we could've hoped  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2014 9:30 am : link
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BB56  
JonC : 8/26/2014 9:32 am : link
What do you think as to conservative timeline?
I would be shocked if he plays week 3.  
ZogZerg : 8/26/2014 9:34 am : link
I'm not getting that warm and fuzzy from this news. There is no time table yet, so I don't know where you all are making up the 3 weeks from.
he's going to come back and screw the chemistry up  
gtt350 : 8/26/2014 9:35 am : link
ducking
Go get em, Wes Richburg.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/26/2014 9:36 am : link
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Nice!!  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2014 9:36 am : link
Did not see that coming at all.
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arcarsenal : 8/26/2014 9:37 am : link
I was expecting him to miss at least 6 weeks if not the entire year. So, this certainly sounds better than the news I was assuming we'd get.
BM  
JonC : 8/26/2014 9:38 am : link
It sounds like a number were expecting the worst outcome.
Hoping  
gmen9892 : 8/26/2014 9:41 am : link
This gives Richburg time to run away with the LG position and that way we can move Schwartz back to RG when he gets back. That would be best-case scenario IMO
Paul Schwartz saying best case scenario  
ZogZerg : 8/26/2014 9:42 am : link
is that G. Schwartz misses first two games of year. Not sure if that info is coming from the Dr. or he is making stuff up. Hopefully, that's from the Dr. That would be great news.
Not sure if this is good or bad  
nicky43 : 8/26/2014 9:42 am : link
I liked Schwartz but honestly, our offense appeared to do better in the Jets game AFTER Schwartz went out.
Like his attitude  
TMS : 8/26/2014 9:50 am : link
but wonder how he can keep in some semblance of FB condition even if injury heals well. Big guy like that has to work hard to keep in shape. Maybe for the second half of the season if we are still viable by then.
Positive news but still uncertain..  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2014 9:59 am : link
If they haven't scheduled a surgery after taking the MRI then it probably means the tendon in that toe is not torn (or only slightly torn). The doctors are likely optimistic it will heal over time and just scar over and he will deal with it. A full tear would easily be 8-12 weeks so hopefully he has escaped that.

However, a big issue he will face is how much strength he will have in the toe after boot/rehab has taken place. Clearly his job depends on it being strong.
RE: Positive news but still uncertain..  
Bill in UT : 8/26/2014 10:03 am : link
In comment 11825622 Jimmy Googs said:
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However, a big issue he will face is how much strength he will have in the toe after boot/rehab has taken place. Clearly his job depends on it being strong.


So how come they don't do toe-presses at the combine?
At this point  
old man : 8/26/2014 10:13 am : link
if we get him back game 5 we still have him 12 games.
Hope the prognosis is same or better after the 10 day wait.
In the meantime I hope players step up and hold the fort,i.e. Eli able to walk.
RE: RE: Positive news but still uncertain..  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2014 10:14 am : link
In comment 11825628 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 11825622 Jimmy Googs said:


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However, a big issue he will face is how much strength he will have in the toe after boot/rehab has taken place. Clearly his job depends on it being strong.



So how come they don't do toe-presses at the combine?


Because they would all get injured.

:)
Over/under on the number of games he misses ?  
Jupiter : 8/26/2014 10:14 am : link
Considering this team's history with getting players back from injuries, it's likely that keeping him on the roster and inactive will turn out to be the wrong decision.
RE: BB56  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2014 10:15 am : link
In comment 11825558 JonC said:
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What do you think as to conservative timeline?


Hard to say..You and I? Generally speaking(without benefit of reports, exams, etc) 4 weeks or so from time of injury, to feel better. 300+ pound guy who must push off, twist and turn? Longer.. Any other toe but the big one, we're talking sooner..Without knowing the extent, I have no choice but to be somewhat vague..My guess? He misses 4 games, at best
SNY  
BIG FRED : 8/26/2014 10:18 am : link
was wrong they said 6 weeks this morning when i watched their show
Thanks, Doc  
JonC : 8/26/2014 10:18 am : link
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RE: How do we have folks going from a season-ending prognosis  
robbieballs2003 : 8/26/2014 10:23 am : link
In comment 11825552 BurberryManning said:
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to week-to-week? Was this simply a bout of incredible overreaction or was there ever really that large of a potential spread on the consequences of a toe injury?


Someone posted on here that there are some different factors that determine the length of time. One was where the dislocation occurred. If surgery was necessary, I think, it is a season ending injury.

From personal experience, I dislocated my finger and when that happened my bone chipped. I am sure the same could happen to a toe.
RE: RE: How do we have folks going from a season-ending prognosis  
Bill in UT : 8/26/2014 10:28 am : link

Someone posted on here that there are some different factors that determine the length of time. One was where the dislocation occurred.

It occurred at MetLife Stadium, if that helps. Sorry, I shouldn't be drinking this early in the day, lol
We'll see Schwartz week 5  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/26/2014 10:30 am : link
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RE: How do we have folks going from a season-ending prognosis  
Jimmy Googs : 8/26/2014 10:31 am : link
In comment 11825552 BurberryManning said:
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to week-to-week? Was this simply a bout of incredible overreaction or was there ever really that large of a potential spread on the consequences of a toe injury?


Because you actually need an MRI to take a look at the damage. Sportswriters and BBI posters only use keyboards.
Giants are calling it week to week after about a 7 to 10 day period  
Gman11 : 8/26/2014 10:37 am : link
Or in other words, he will stay on the 53 man roster and be inactive for the first 14 weeks before being put on IR.
Snee would have  
mrvax : 8/26/2014 10:40 am : link
just cut the toe off with bolt cutters and been ready to go.
No Mention of Surgery  
Bernie : 8/26/2014 10:45 am : link
which I am going to guess is why it's a week to week type thing. Given its the Giants and the fact the team is generally snake bit when it comes to injuries and recovery time, I am going to assume he will be out the first half of the season...
Re: How do we have folks going from a season-ending prognosis  
12aob : 8/26/2014 11:00 am : link
Along with Schwartz's injury prognosis we have TC and others telling us Beckham didn't suffer a setback last week - yet he hasn't practiced since. I'm beginning to wonder if they are purposely being vague a la Belichick and virtually all NHL hockey teams to keep other teams in the dark about player's injuries.
MrVax  
Gregorio : 8/26/2014 11:03 am : link
thank you for that reply.... bold cutters!
Its week to week because he still has swelling and they cannot  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/26/2014 11:16 am : link
determine if he needs surgery yet. that is why its week to week. I tore my big toe up when I was 23 climbing over a barb wire fence and I had swelling in my toe for two weeks until doctor decided I needed surgery.
RE: Its week to week because he still has swelling and they cannot  
Bill in UT : 8/26/2014 11:27 am : link
In comment 11825815 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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I tore my big toe up when I was 23 climbing over a barb wire fence and I had swelling in my toe for two weeks until doctor decided I needed surgery.


Gotta be careful with barbed wire. If it's covered with germs you can end up with main toe poisoning
Well it doesn't sound like IR or that he will miss 1/2 the season  
SGMen : 8/26/2014 12:03 pm : link
Overall, this isn't bad news or at least it isn't as bad as I had expected.

He is still a big body guy with experience and I am sure we'll need him. The silver lining to this injury is that if he is back by say game 4 at least Richburg got some serious experience right out of the gates. Lets hope Richburg does well and doesn't make mental mistakes. That is my concern versus Detroit.
RE: If the guy was a warrior he could just  
Fast Eddie : 8/26/2014 12:25 pm : link
In comment 11825547 Bill in UT said:
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amputate the damn toe. He'd be ready in a week and would hardly miss it. Just how would you prepare amputated toe Bill? There must be a good toe recipe :)
This is the best news after what was feared by some.  
micky : 8/26/2014 12:54 pm : link
Can imagine, though, a dislocated toe is much worse for an OL especially if it's a pivot foot and as well as the weight on it. Hoping now for a fast recovery so he's back in there ASAP.
Me thinks this will be an issue all year...  
Run with 81 : 8/26/2014 1:00 pm : link
Unfortunately! O-Linemen get so much pressure & flexing in there... Wonder what the % is on risk of re-injury?
Hope it wasn't the pinky toe  
deadkurtrulz : 8/26/2014 1:25 pm : link
It took Della Reese six weeks to come back from a similar injury.
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mrvaz  
Emlen'sGremlins : 8/26/2014 2:07 pm : link
No, with Snee you never would've even heard about the injury. And he never would've gone out on a cart. Period.
"Giants guard Geoff Schwartz had his dislocated right big toe"  
RAIN : 8/26/2014 2:12 pm : link
its the right big toe.
Great news  
djm : 8/26/2014 2:24 pm : link
This to me is a postive in terms of depth. Be happy he's not done for the year and coming off surgery in 2015. If we can get Schwartz back and rumbling by week 7-8 I'd be happy. Hopefully all hands stay on deck these next 1-2 months. We still have better OL and Rbs than last year.

This hasn't been a bad training camp / preseason at all. ***Knocks wood***
It's a toe  
tomjgiant : 8/26/2014 2:53 pm : link
How much rehab can you do for a toe?
I say week 1 questionable,week 2 probable.
Great news  
illmatic : 8/26/2014 2:59 pm : link
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At least it's not a hammy!  
Marty in Albany : 8/26/2014 3:08 pm : link
;-)
what is with the Giants medical staff?  
SHO'NUFF : 8/26/2014 8:17 pm : link
first, the fact that they even let David Wilson back on the field and now this...
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