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Mankins dealt to Bucs

Dunedin81 : 8/26/2014 1:39 pm
For a pick and TE Tim Wright
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Logan Makins?  
BlueHurricane : 8/26/2014 1:39 pm : link
?
Cue the BBI hysteria  
Jay on the Island : 8/26/2014 1:39 pm : link
"Reese asleep at the wheel again"
Sorry  
Dunedin81 : 8/26/2014 1:40 pm : link
Mike Garafolo þ@MikeGarafolo · 3m
Holy... RT @JayGlazer: Patriots have agreed to parameters of trade to send guard Logan Mankins to the Bucs for a pick and TE Tim Wright

Maybe if we had a TE to offer  
Dunedin81 : 8/26/2014 1:40 pm : link
?
Wat da hell REEZE!?!  
Vin R : 8/26/2014 1:40 pm : link
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why  
I Love Clams Casino : 8/26/2014 1:41 pm : link
couldn't have Reese pulled off something like that? ;)
RE: Cue the BBI hysteria  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2014 1:41 pm : link
In comment 11826154 Jay on the Island said:
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"Reese asleep at the wheel again"


Nah, he's 32
Depth for Gronk?  
Peter in Atlanta : 8/26/2014 1:41 pm : link
You'd think they would have addressed that sooner.
We don't have a tight end as good as Wright  
armsteadeatslittlekids : 8/26/2014 1:41 pm : link
::sobs::
32 1/2 at season's start  
Big Blue '56 : 8/26/2014 1:42 pm : link
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RE: Depth for Gronk?  
Vin R : 8/26/2014 1:43 pm : link
In comment 11826164 Peter in Atlanta said:
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You'd think they would have addressed that sooner.


I read  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2014 1:43 pm : link
Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?
56  
Jay on the Island : 8/26/2014 1:43 pm : link
And he has a big contract.
I don't know why we dont sign  
ANGPASS : 8/26/2014 1:44 pm : link
incognito. cheap and quick fix for schwartz.
Power move.  
bceagle05 : 8/26/2014 1:44 pm : link
Little Bill is cold-blooded.
This seems like a shocker  
Aaron in MA : 8/26/2014 1:44 pm : link
I havent heard anything that would indicate this was coming.
They're probably one of the 40% that gets their info  
Curtis in VA : 8/26/2014 1:44 pm : link
from PPF.

PFF  
Curtis in VA : 8/26/2014 1:44 pm : link
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RE: I don't know why we dont sign  
Les in TO : 8/26/2014 1:47 pm : link
In comment 11826178 ANGPASS said:
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incognito. cheap and quick fix for schwartz.


because he's got more baggage than a united air terminal.
Ahh  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2014 1:48 pm : link
Tim Wright is from Rutgers.

belichick is collecting every rutgers player in the league.

Tim Wright  
JB in BB : 8/26/2014 1:50 pm : link
is a former WR out of Rutgers. Looks like Belicheck continues with his affinity for Rutgers players.
pjcas  
JB in BB : 8/26/2014 1:51 pm : link
beat me to it.
RE: RE: I don't know why we dont sign  
26.2 : 8/26/2014 1:52 pm : link
In comment 11826189 Les in TO said:
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In comment 11826178 ANGPASS said:


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incognito. cheap and quick fix for schwartz.



because he's got more baggage than a united air terminal.


maybe you're right, but if he can play better than who we have on the roster (which isn't saying much) then I think you take the baggage with him. he's probably the best option without making a trade.
Giants don't have a TE as good as Wright  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 1:54 pm : link
And Wright adds to Bellichick's Rutgers collection.
So what does this do for us in terms of Boone/Incognito?  
mac attack : 8/26/2014 1:54 pm : link
Bucs are out of play for a G now...


Anyway Reese pulls trigger on Boone trade?
RE: I read  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 1:56 pm : link
In comment 11826173 pjcas18 said:
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Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?


Wright had 54 catches last year for over 10 yards a catch. And 5 TDs.
RE: Giants don't have a TE as good as Wright  
njm : 8/26/2014 1:57 pm : link
In comment 11826203 jeff57 said:
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And Wright adds to Bellichick's Rutgers collection.


The Giants don't have a receiving threat at TE as good as Wright. As a converted WR his blocking is nothing to write home about.

Still, given the offense that the New England Scarlet Knights run, he's a good addition for them.
Marc Ross was at the TB Buffalo game last week  
Defenderdawg : 8/26/2014 1:58 pm : link
Maybe Wright was available and he was scouting him

The Patriots needed a TE, they had assets they could move
RE: I read  
njm : 8/26/2014 1:59 pm : link
In comment 11826173 pjcas18 said:
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Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?


A week later Smith was quoted as saying that Wright had gotten the message and was playing quite well.
RE: RE: I read  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2014 2:00 pm : link
In comment 11826209 jeff57 said:
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In comment 11826173 pjcas18 said:


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Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?



Wright had 54 catches last year for over 10 yards a catch. And 5 TDs.

Myers had 47 catches for over 11 yards a catch and 4 TD's, what did you think of him?
FYI  
Defenderdawg : 8/26/2014 2:01 pm : link
Rodak ESPN: @mikerodak: Quite a few scouts on hand today for Bills-Bucs. Hundreds of NFL players on the move within the next week. (Including Marc Ross Giants see below)
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RE: RE: I read  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2014 2:01 pm : link
In comment 11826220 njm said:
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In comment 11826173 pjcas18 said:


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Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?



A week later Smith was quoted as saying that Wright had gotten the message and was playing quite well.


that makes sense. I know I read it maybe after PS game 1.
RE: RE: RE: I read  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 2:02 pm : link
In comment 11826222 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 11826209 jeff57 said:


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In comment 11826173 pjcas18 said:


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Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?



Wright had 54 catches last year for over 10 yards a catch. And 5 TDs.


Myers had 47 catches for over 11 yards a catch and 4 TD's, what did you think of him?


Not the issue. Would the Giants have cut him?
Little Bill loves those RU players  
Sonic Youth : 8/26/2014 2:03 pm : link
Tim Wright flashed a little last year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I read  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2014 2:04 pm : link
In comment 11826231 jeff57 said:
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In comment 11826222 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 11826209 jeff57 said:


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In comment 11826173 pjcas18 said:


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Wright is terrible and was on the bubble to be cut.

fake tweet?



Wright had 54 catches last year for over 10 yards a catch. And 5 TDs.


Myers had 47 catches for over 11 yards a catch and 4 TD's, what did you think of him?



Not the issue. Would the Giants have cut him?


My point was - and someone quoted it, the Bucs were not happy with his performance in camp and he was rumored to be on the bubble. The quote is above where it says Wright got the message from Smith and had been playing better.

and the Giants did cut Myers with similar stats.
Pats will receive a fourth rounder in the deal  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 2:04 pm : link
According to Schefter.
Myers left as a FA  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 2:05 pm : link
Wasn't a camp cut.

And they probably would keep him now if he were on the team.
Few tweets  
Defenderdawg : 8/26/2014 2:06 pm : link
@theMMQB: Our @Andy_Benoit on the new #Patriots TE: "Tim Wright has the body control & quickness to blossom into a top-5 pass-catcher at his position"

@greggrosenthal: Tim Wright is a relatively small part of deal. Was close roster to bubble in Tampa. It’s about Mankins, draft pick.

@Jason_OTC: Logan Mankins will carry a $4.25 million cap charge for NE in 2014 and another $4 million in 2015

@ArmandoSalguero: Jeff Ireland told me two years ago he called Pats about Logan Mankins. Obviously the Pats were not going to send him within the division.
Crazy Bill  
ZogZerg : 8/26/2014 2:06 pm : link
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RE: Crazy Bill  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 2:09 pm : link
In comment 11826242 ZogZerg said:
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Has Schiano whispering in his ear.
PFT reports the pick is a 4th rounder  
Bluenatic : 8/26/2014 2:13 pm : link
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Bluenatic : 8/26/2014 2:13 pm : link
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RE: Myers left as a FA  
pjcas18 : 8/26/2014 2:16 pm : link
In comment 11826237 jeff57 said:
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Wasn't a camp cut.

And they probably would keep him now if he were on the team.


The Giants voided Myers contract. They cut him.

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As we mentioned was expected on Friday, the New York Giants have voided the contracts of tight end Brandon Myers and cornerback Corey Webster, making both free agents.

Truth is, neither player will be missed by the Giants.
Seems  
AcidTest : 8/26/2014 2:20 pm : link
like the Patriots didn't get much for Mankins, and those are two pretty big dead money hits to their cap. Is Mankins not worth any more than a fourth?
Word from some New England folks  
BigBlueinChicago : 8/26/2014 2:31 pm : link
is that Mankins was a high possibility of being cut due to his decline in performance and $10.5 million cap number.

So rather than cut him, they were able to find a team to trade for him, take on the money, give them a middle round draft pick and a player back.

Oddly enough, Mankins came up in stories a few months ago about his future (links below).

The takeaway I got from it is that at Mankins at his age (32) and cap number ($10.5 million - 2nd highest on the team), unless he is playing at an elite level, simply is not worth the cost.

Based on stories, his play has been slipping the last few years (From PFF - Mankins allowed the 2nd most sacks among all NFL guards in 2013).

http://overthecap.com/best-worst-contracts-2014-new-england-patriots/
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Classic Pats move  
Sy'56 : 8/26/2014 2:43 pm : link
Mankins still has another year of quality play in him but his top tier grade is no longer here. Pats move him for a pick that they can use to maneuver over the course of draft weekend and a role player that is better than what they have now. The Pats OL depth has been better in recent years, thus losing Mankins won't affect them much.
I looked at their depth chart and I don't see any obvious replacement  
jeff57 : 8/26/2014 2:47 pm : link
Maybe they plan on bringing in Incognito.
jeff  
Sy'56 : 8/26/2014 2:55 pm : link
They have liked Stork out of Florida State so far. And Chris Barker may get a shot at competing for the spot as well. Fleming and Cannon are tackles on the depth chart, but could see them at G consider their abilities.
Some of you  
NYBEN : 8/26/2014 2:56 pm : link
act as if Incognito is the 2nd coming of Larry Allen ...he isn't.And there is no way I and hopefully the team would want the headache of having BOTH Incognito and John Jerry in the same locker room...it would be a unnecessary circus.
Maybe they have something going with SF?  
Reale01 : 8/26/2014 2:57 pm : link
Just a thought. They may think that Boone at 6 million plus 4 million dead for Mankins is better than Mankins at 10 million?

Give SF a fourth round pick?

Ends up Boone and Wright for Mankins.
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