Just a thought. They may think that Boone at 6 million plus 4 million dead for Mankins is better than Mankins at 10 million?
Give SF a fourth round pick?
Ends up Boone and Wright for Mankins.
Unlikely. Other than the elite-level of play Mankins gave, Belichick has had a long history of paying little to no cost for guards.
His philosophy on this is written in a David Halberstam book I still have at home called "Education of a Coach."
In essence he said the interior position of an offensive line can be coached up rather than allocating a high amount of resources to it. The players he signed over the last 10 years to play that spot have mostly been players undrafted or off the street.
Joe Andruzzi, Stephen Neal, Dan Koppen, Dan Connolly and Ryan Wendell have been the main interior line players on the over the last 10 years going back to when they won their last Super Bowl in '04 to their most recent SB appearance two years ago. 4 of them were never drafted and Koppen was taken in the 5th round.
but this wasn't the move. If they're willing to part with a pick, and I hope they arent, then the target has to be Boone who probably still has a good 4-5 years left in him.
And honestly, with as bad as thngs are looking, I'd let Incognito try to rehab his image here. It's a little bit like lifeboat ethics. Only this lifeboat has a hole and Incognito can help plug it.
Mankins still has another year of quality play in him but his top tier grade is no longer here. Pats move him for a pick that they can use to maneuver over the course of draft weekend and a role player that is better than what they have now. The Pats OL depth has been better in recent years, thus losing Mankins won't affect them much.
I know people tend to love the Pats' personnel moves, but considering the number of picks they've had over the years they really don't draft that well. They have devoted comparably few draft picks to finding quality wideouts despite relatively quick impact from the position for rookies and a limited number of good years left for Brady. And considering what they paid Amendola to be a perennial fixture on the injury report I don't buy that they don't value the position highly either.
Neal and Mankins were their guards for almost 10 years.
Before Mankins was Damien Woody also a first rounder.
After Neal they signed veteran Pro-bowler Brian Waters.
Neal and Andruzzi were not drafted, but it doesn't mean they don't invest in the line.
Waters was signed at 34 (who does that anymore?) at a low cost and provided well beyond solid production the year they went to the Super Bowl. Absolute steal. Big money was not allocated to him.
Belichick wasn't in the organization when Woody was drafted.
Mankins was the only high round pick at the interior position Belichick has ever drafted since he's been the Patriots coach. He was well worth it as he was a no doubt top player and compensated well for it (some may say overpaid).
I know people tend to love the Pats' personnel moves, but considering the number of picks they've had over the years they really don't draft that well. They have devoted comparably few draft picks to finding quality wideouts despite relatively quick impact from the position for rookies and a limited number of good years left for Brady. And considering what they paid Amendola to be a perennial fixture on the injury report I don't buy that they don't value the position highly either.
No NFL team is consistently good at drafting. During the summer, a poster broke down the consistent winning teams and their draft history. Even then, a correlation could not be found.
In a 10 year span, no team goes 10 for 10 or even 7 for 10. If you have 5 good draft classes, that would have to be considered great and/or lucky. And that doesn't even factor in undrafted players who turn out to be meaningful contributors, but do not count as part of a draft class.
There isn't a formula for success on it. Some teams get bad luck while others are able to hit on a number of late rounders. Believe me, if someone could crack the code on hitting in the draft, an NFL would pay a kings ransom for that information.
that Mankins play has dropped off the last 2 years......at 32-33, he is not the player he once was.....no one is saying anything, but did they ask Logan to take a paycut from his 6.25M salary? Also, Bill has a history of getting "even" with players who hold out on contracts with him.....
Mankins was asked to re-work his deal and give $$$ back, he said no, he was no longer of use to Belechick. Not everyone is Tom Brady, with regard to signing for less, to benefit the team.
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incognito. cheap and quick fix for schwartz.
because he's got more baggage than a united air terminal.
How is he any different than John Jerry? And, I don't think Jerry has ever made the Pro Bowl. Incognito has.
Give SF a fourth round pick?
Ends up Boone and Wright for Mankins.
Unlikely. Other than the elite-level of play Mankins gave, Belichick has had a long history of paying little to no cost for guards.
His philosophy on this is written in a David Halberstam book I still have at home called "Education of a Coach."
In essence he said the interior position of an offensive line can be coached up rather than allocating a high amount of resources to it. The players he signed over the last 10 years to play that spot have mostly been players undrafted or off the street.
Joe Andruzzi, Stephen Neal, Dan Koppen, Dan Connolly and Ryan Wendell have been the main interior line players on the over the last 10 years going back to when they won their last Super Bowl in '04 to their most recent SB appearance two years ago. 4 of them were never drafted and Koppen was taken in the 5th round.
And honestly, with as bad as thngs are looking, I'd let Incognito try to rehab his image here. It's a little bit like lifeboat ethics. Only this lifeboat has a hole and Incognito can help plug it.
Before Mankins was Damien Woody also a first rounder.
After Neal they signed veteran Pro-bowler Brian Waters.
Neal and Andruzzi were not drafted, but it doesn't mean they don't invest in the line.
I know people tend to love the Pats' personnel moves, but considering the number of picks they've had over the years they really don't draft that well. They have devoted comparably few draft picks to finding quality wideouts despite relatively quick impact from the position for rookies and a limited number of good years left for Brady. And considering what they paid Amendola to be a perennial fixture on the injury report I don't buy that they don't value the position highly either.
Before Mankins was Damien Woody also a first rounder.
After Neal they signed veteran Pro-bowler Brian Waters.
Neal and Andruzzi were not drafted, but it doesn't mean they don't invest in the line.
Waters was signed at 34 (who does that anymore?) at a low cost and provided well beyond solid production the year they went to the Super Bowl. Absolute steal. Big money was not allocated to him.
Belichick wasn't in the organization when Woody was drafted.
Mankins was the only high round pick at the interior position Belichick has ever drafted since he's been the Patriots coach. He was well worth it as he was a no doubt top player and compensated well for it (some may say overpaid).
No NFL team is consistently good at drafting. During the summer, a poster broke down the consistent winning teams and their draft history. Even then, a correlation could not be found.
In a 10 year span, no team goes 10 for 10 or even 7 for 10. If you have 5 good draft classes, that would have to be considered great and/or lucky. And that doesn't even factor in undrafted players who turn out to be meaningful contributors, but do not count as part of a draft class.
There isn't a formula for success on it. Some teams get bad luck while others are able to hit on a number of late rounders. Believe me, if someone could crack the code on hitting in the draft, an NFL would pay a kings ransom for that information.