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NY Giants keep Eagles from getting kicker Brandon McManus

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/27/2014 12:52 pm
NY Daily News article....
NY Giants keep Eagles from getting kicker Brandon McManus - ( New Window )
F U  
Randy in CT : 8/27/2014 12:54 pm : link
Eagles!!
BBI nailed that one  
ZogZerg : 8/27/2014 12:55 pm : link
But, how does this really help? If the Denver cuts McManus after week 4, the Eagles can pick him up them. We can still be facing him twice this year.
I suspected as much  
jeff57 : 8/27/2014 12:55 pm : link
.
...  
bceagle05 : 8/27/2014 1:06 pm : link
RE: BBI nailed that one  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/27/2014 1:09 pm : link
In comment 11827680 ZogZerg said:
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But, how does this really help? If the Denver cuts McManus after week 4, the Eagles can pick him up them. We can still be facing him twice this year.


Denver would have to cut him. That's how it helps, lol

No it's not full proof, but it was a sound tactical maneuver.
I think having him 'pull a hammy'....  
MOOPS : 8/27/2014 1:10 pm : link
would have been a better tactical maneuver.
Having him "pull a hammy"  
kickerpa16 : 8/27/2014 1:12 pm : link
won't work, for a number of simple reasons.

You need him to work on his technique, not sit on his ass.
Will "full proof"  
Wuphat : 8/27/2014 1:19 pm : link
make the ranks of "pre-Madonna"?
The key here  
Mike in Philly : 8/27/2014 1:21 pm : link
is that at a minimum Philly won't have him for the first four games:
Home for Jaguars
At Colts
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At 49ers
This article..  
chrispisano66 : 8/27/2014 1:25 pm : link
leaves me with one question.

Why arent the Giants going with McManus themselves?
RE: Having him  
MOOPS : 8/27/2014 1:26 pm : link
In comment 11827729 kickerpa16 said:
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won't work, for a number of simple reasons.

You need him to work on his technique, not sit on his ass.


I think I'd rather have him sit on his ass with us for a year rather than, in all likelihood, never seeing him again.
RE: This article..  
kickerpa16 : 8/27/2014 1:27 pm : link
In comment 11827746 chrispisano66 said:
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leaves me with one question.

Why arent the Giants going with McManus themselves?


He's not as consistent from 45 and in, and his ability to hit different KO's is worse than Brown.

His technique also needs more work. Which means he will miss a couple easy ones.
RE: RE: Having him  
kickerpa16 : 8/27/2014 1:28 pm : link
In comment 11827748 MOOPS said:
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In comment 11827729 kickerpa16 said:


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won't work, for a number of simple reasons.

You need him to work on his technique, not sit on his ass.



I think I'd rather have him sit on his ass with us for a year rather than, in all likelihood, never seeing him again.


Yes, so he doesn't improve on his technique, which is why he was cut...

Sound strategy......
RE: RE: RE: Having him  
MOOPS : 8/27/2014 1:33 pm : link
In comment 11827751 kickerpa16 said:
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In comment 11827748 MOOPS said:


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In comment 11827729 kickerpa16 said:


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won't work, for a number of simple reasons.

You need him to work on his technique, not sit on his ass.



I think I'd rather have him sit on his ass with us for a year rather than, in all likelihood, never seeing him again.



Yes, so he doesn't improve on his technique, which is why he was cut...

Sound strategy......


You understand that him playing for anyone other than the Giants doesn't exactly benefit us?
Uh. It does, depending on whether  
kickerpa16 : 8/27/2014 1:42 pm : link
the Broncos decide to keep him or cut him.

He gets NFL tutelage.

Plus, it's not like he's some unique gift that is going to go 90+% and make them regularly from 60. Or that we may not be able to find a comparable kicker.

Your idea made 0 sense. And, of course, the NFL actually investigates these things, so it wouldn't pass even the simplest smell test.
Thank god  
dontboobigblue : 8/27/2014 1:51 pm : link
we have a veteran kicker to kick us to 7-9
if he is inconsistent  
larryflower37 : 8/27/2014 1:55 pm : link
Wouldn't be better for us to have him kick for Philly?
Its not like he got beat out by a hof/pro bowl kicker.
FFS this place can be bipolar  
Wuphat : 8/27/2014 1:56 pm : link
A couple of years ago, people wanted Tynes gone (who was as reliable as Brown, and better at the specialty kicks kicker keeps trying to educate people about). Now they want Brown gone (who's not terrible -- not great, but not terrible) in favor of a young kid who needs work (Hi, Matt Dodge!). Oh, and let's not forget how apeshit this place went when we dared trade a 7th round pick for a former Pro-Bowl LB.

Instead of just waiving him and having a team like the Eagles get him, they manage to get a potential return for him from Denver. Granted, it may not result in an actual draft pick, but it might, and hey, at least the Eagles don't get him for a quarter of the season.

I know it's not everyone reacting this way, but FFS, if the biggest problem the Giants had was 7th round picks and kickers, they wouldn't have been picking 12th overall in this past draft.

A kicker isn't gonna make or break this team.
RE: Will  
chris r : 8/27/2014 2:03 pm : link
In comment 11827733 Wuphat said:
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make the ranks of "pre-Madonna"?


I want the full poof so help me God.
I can easily see  
mrvax : 8/27/2014 2:11 pm : link
McManus going to the Eagles after game 4.
BBI has to be the only football fansite on earth  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/27/2014 2:15 pm : link
that goes into full yellow alert about a damn rookie kicker.
I wish we could have kept him instead of Brown  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 8/27/2014 2:19 pm : link
Brown is towards the end of his career and has a weaker leg. Could have locked McManus in for a long time here.
RE: I can easily see  
rptl530 : 8/27/2014 2:20 pm : link
In comment 11827836 mrvax said:
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McManus going to the Eagles after game 4.


No shit. Then Week 6 he hits a 108 yd FG to win the game.
sooooo  
Fish : 8/27/2014 2:23 pm : link
Giants think highly of him to keep him awa from eagles but not enough for him to make team. Interesting.
RE: Uh. It does, depending on whether  
MOOPS : 8/27/2014 2:24 pm : link
In comment 11827778 kickerpa16 said:
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the Broncos decide to keep him or cut him.

He gets NFL tutelage.

Plus, it's not like he's some unique gift that is going to go 90+% and make them regularly from 60. Or that we may not be able to find a comparable kicker.

Your idea made 0 sense. And, of course, the NFL actually investigates these things, so it wouldn't pass even the simplest smell test.



Somebody steal your fruit loops this morning?

My whole point is I'd rather own his rights than not.
Don't take life so seriously.
RE: RE: Uh. It does, depending on whether  
kickerpa16 : 8/27/2014 2:46 pm : link
In comment 11827867 MOOPS said:
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In comment 11827778 kickerpa16 said:


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the Broncos decide to keep him or cut him.

He gets NFL tutelage.

Plus, it's not like he's some unique gift that is going to go 90+% and make them regularly from 60. Or that we may not be able to find a comparable kicker.

Your idea made 0 sense. And, of course, the NFL actually investigates these things, so it wouldn't pass even the simplest smell test.




Somebody steal your fruit loops this morning?

My whole point is I'd rather own his rights than not.
Don't take life so seriously.


You think this is me taking life seriously?

I'm calling your idea stupid.

That takes about 5 seconds.
RE: I think having him 'pull a hammy'....  
Great White Ghost : 8/27/2014 2:53 pm : link
In comment 11827722 MOOPS said:
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would have been a better tactical maneuver.
Let the guy be active, get some real game experience and make his bread.he clearly wasn't injured and I'm sure had that happened a greivance would have been filed by the NFLPA as they sometimes do when teams try and pull that crap.
RE: RE: RE: Uh. It does, depending on whether  
MOOPS : 8/27/2014 3:15 pm : link
In comment 11827911 kickerpa16 said:
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In comment 11827867 MOOPS said:


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In comment 11827778 kickerpa16 said:


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the Broncos decide to keep him or cut him.

He gets NFL tutelage.

Plus, it's not like he's some unique gift that is going to go 90+% and make them regularly from 60. Or that we may not be able to find a comparable kicker.

Your idea made 0 sense. And, of course, the NFL actually investigates these things, so it wouldn't pass even the simplest smell test.




Somebody steal your fruit loops this morning?

My whole point is I'd rather own his rights than not.
Don't take life so seriously.



You think this is me taking life seriously?

I'm calling your idea stupid.

That takes about 5 seconds.




Yup, definitely fruit loops withdrawal.
RE: sooooo  
Mad Mike : 8/27/2014 3:35 pm : link
In comment 11827864 Fish said:
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Giants think highly of him to keep him awa from eagles but not enough for him to make team. Interesting.

Is it really that interesting that the Giants think Brown is better than McManus who in turn is better than who the Eagles have or might pick up off the street?

And let's not overthink this, I can't imagine the Giants view this as some grand strategic move. But they're releasing a guy, and a division rival might be interested - kind of a no-brainer to make sure he goes somewhere else, even if it's only temporary.
Full Proof, Pre-Madonna and ...  
Trainmaster : 8/27/2014 4:04 pm : link
"Drama"mine


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why are the eagles in such dire need  
Mr. Nickels : 8/27/2014 4:16 pm : link
isn't Henrey a good kicker?
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arcarsenal : 8/27/2014 4:30 pm : link
McManus was hitting from 75 in practices. This was a huge mistake.
Wouldn't it be a kick in the balls  
Mike in Philly : 8/27/2014 4:44 pm : link
if Denver ends up trading McManus to the Eagles after week 4 for a 7th round pick.
I would imagine the trade terms protect the Giants...  
Big Blue Blogger : 8/27/2014 8:22 pm : link
... in the event Denver trades McManus when Prater returns, as opposed to cutting him. But maybe I'm giving the front office too much credit.

If he does get cut in Week 5, the Giants will probably have the chance to reclaim him if they are unhappy with Brown, or decide that it's time to look toward the future. Isn't claim order still based on 2013 records in Week 5? That puts New York way ahead of Philly.
RE: .  
pjcas18 : 8/27/2014 8:26 pm : link
In comment 11828105 arcarsenal said:
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McManus was hitting from 75 in practices. This was a huge mistake.


agree with arc. Giants will regret this.
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