NFT: Fantasy Discussion 8/27

I think it makes you too thin at RB.

So I would make the trade. Now, you have two great choices there. I would probably lean toward Sanders because of his QB and he has speed to get deep. I don't know if you can necessarily double Demaryius Thomas with all of those weapons but Sanders will draw the weakest defenders.

if jennings doesn't pan out, I'm going to need Gerhart.

Bell is fine (just announced he wont be suspended by league or Steelers).

Sankey at this point is just a luxury who I'm hoping is starting by the end of the year (plus in this league one if you keep 2 guys, one must be a rookie)

I'd do Floyd over Sanders. Taking Sanders back would hurt your flex spot if Welker is healthy.

my TE is Cameron. Forgot about that. Also the Flex is WR/RB/TE

pretty much means that 1 more may end his season, regardless of when it occurs.

just don't really expect much from Toby. He's just a guy, and it wouldn't shock me if Todman steals a ton of stats from him, particularly on 3rd and long. He will still get the goal-line work, but that doesn't mean much for me in that offense.

I can of course be completely wrong, but I can see an easy 75/1100/8 season for Floyd.

Shane Vereen and Rashad Jennings are both number one backs... ?

Jennings - No
Vereen - I have him as my #12 RB, so depending on your league size.

vereen absolutely yes. In all PPR leagues he's going to be a monster. 1 point PPR especially

last until my 5th rd

In my league we are allowed 2 keepers each season and can't keep anyone more than 3 years in a row. Their rounds are based on when a player was drafted then the year after it's half of that, then half of that. So example: I draft Cruz in the 8th round, I can keep him the following year at an 8th round value, but if i want to keep him the next year he will cost me a 4th, and then the last and final year would be a 2nd(granted we can't keep anyone in the 1st or 2nd round)

SO with that said, with josh gordon suspended the whole year, should he be allowed to be drafted (draft is sat so his suspension is already known). Because basically if he's drafted say 12th round, he can be kept as a 12th round pick next year then a 6th the following year and a 3rd the year after that.

The debate ranges from it's a risk you take to pick him late and keep him to he shouldn't be available since he's not on an active roster.

much prefer them to be a 2 or a Flex

if someone wants to waste a roster spot on him all year to do that, that's their decision.

Team 1 Gets
Cam Newton
Jamal Charles
Ahmad Bradshaw

Team 2 Gets
Montee Ball
Doug Martin
Andy Dalton
Eric Ebron

PPR League..

In comment 11828028 YAJ2112 said:

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much prefer them to be a 2 or a Flex

I disagree. In a PPR I want 2 stud WR's then RB's after that. Can't have the best players at every position, so realistically, Vereen is a fine RB1 in a PPR league as long as your WR's are great.

if my WR's are Thomas, Brown and Cruz. You can't look at it in a bubble like that. It's about having the best players, not having balance. Both Vereen and Jennings are starting caliber players and that's all that matters(assuming you drafted well elsewhere).

so they aren't true #1s. If the draft falls that way, then yeah I'd take them and slot them in my RB1 slot - but that doesn't make them true RB1s, it just makes them the best RB on my team.

I'm not saying they suck, I have those guys on a couple of my teams as 1s/2s and am fine with it. Doesn't mean I wouldn't feel better if I had a better option as my #1.

PPR league, I either just lost my league or won it running away depending on gronk

Traded
Jordan Cameron
Jordy Nelson (OUCH)

For
Colston
Cruz
Gronk

My team

Stafford
Forte
Vereen
Cruz
Wayne
Kendall wright
Gronk
Bush (flex)

Bench
Ryan matthews
colston
hartline
bowe
shorts

now time to go out and find me a backup TE

Good or bad?

but I'm also higher on Cruz than most. I think Cruz is every bit as good as Nelson and Gronk should be a big upgrade over Cameron(not without risk of course).

it's a 14 team league...

yeah im high on cruz this year too (giants homer aside) im very high on him in this offense and low on jordy with cobb back he will see less targets and lacy will dominate the run game. I think jordy > cruz but gronk >>>>>> cameron gronk can single handily win me a league

to make up for the few games he missed, he was still a very valuable WR and that's in a season where everything went wrong. I expect him to be slightly better this year at a minimum, but he should get a significant amount of catches this year.

In comment 11828059 kmed said:
[quote] if my WR's are Thomas, Brown and Cruz. You can't look at it in a bubble like that. It's about having the best players, not having balance. Both Vereen and Jennings are starting caliber players and that's all that matters(assuming you drafted well elsewhere). [/quote

My WRs are Demarius Thomas, Alshon Jeffery, Cordarelle Patterson and Michael Crabtree. It's a 2 WR, 2 Flex PPR league. I waited on RB because I just wasn't impressed with any of them after Ball, and I had the 8th pick in a ten team league.

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in order of preference. .25 PPR.

McCoy, AP, Charles.

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In comment 11828258 dep026 said:

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in order of preference. .25 PPR. McCoy, AP, Charles.

Charles, McCoy, AP.....Although AP went #1 in my league.

QB: Newton, Kaepernick
RB: Peterson, Ball, Rice, Greene
WR: Nelson, Cruz, Crabtree, Wayne, Wheaton
TE: Randolph

I took Cruz over Andre Johnson, which is questionable, but other than that I think I killed it. any thoughts?

I think you'll be starting Kaepernick most of the year. I don't see Newton being a great fantasy QB this year.. but other than that, love your RB's and WR's. For 12 team that's a really good team.

In comment 11828477 arcarsenal said:

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I think you'll be starting Kaepernick most of the year. I don't see Newton being a great fantasy QB this year.. but other than that, love your RB's and WR's. For 12 team that's a really good team.

Chose CK over Russell Wilson, which killed me from a morals perspective, but I think Kaep is in for a big year with a full year of Crabtree.

Curious why you're anti Cam though.

plus shitty WRs.

He's going into the year with a broken rib.. I just think that offense is going to struggle a bit this season. I definitely think Kap will be a better fantasy QB.

I could be wrong but we'll see.

had to keep 4: McCoy, Charles, Harvin Patterson. I took over some guys team.

My team:

QBs: Wilson, Eli
RBs: McCoy, Charles, Mathews, Ingram, White, Pierce
WRs: Harvin, Patterson, K. Wright, T. Williams
TEs: Fleener, Cook
K: Gould
D: Rams, Texans

Obviously, my RBs are stacked to the max. Most WRs were kept, so I had to scramble. I think I got an ok team, good enough to compete, not good enough to win. Looking to trade Mathews for a WR upgrade.

id upgrade at TE and QB

amazing RB and not bad WR

flip matthews

it's not like Cam has had good WRs during his first three years, and he's still managed to be a top 4 fantasy QB every single year.

I just drafted last night. 12 team, .5 ppr, picked 10th

QB: Luck, McCown
RB: Gio Bernard, Tate, MJD, Khiry Robinson
WR: Dez, Allen, VJax, Cooks, Hunter
TE: Reed, Pitta

more valuable than McCluster? I don't believe Ridley will get cut but if he does having White can be huge...

I've been doing some mocks and with the 6th pick I'm finding that if I take a wr(calvin or thomas), i end up going wr in the next 2 rounds because there are guys too good to pass up. There just aren't many RB's that I love at the top of this draft. They all have a lot of risk as opposed to the top wr's which are pretty much guaranteed to produce.

3.

the real value is the wr's in rd's 3 and 4.

no WRs taken between 29 and 38. Basically, don't trust mocks. I'd take WRs early and often. There will be many RBs getting work this year.

that's funny. I am doing a mock right now and I took Graham at 6 and i hate my wr's. There was a huge run of em.

I think my mind is made up, I'm taking demarius thomas at 6 if my top 4 backs are off the board. Am I nuts for taking Thomas over Calvin??

but it will feel weird.

James White, Cunningham, Rainey, Polk..

Trying to land a gem, basically anyone with more value than mccluster.

but Thomas has a 2 year history now of 90 catches 1500 yards and 10+ TD's and with no decker, I think he gets more opps.

Whereas Calvin now has a lot of weapons around him that will get looks. Don't get me wrong, still love Calvin, but I just love Thomas a little more.....I think.

In comment 11828642 kmed said:

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the real value is the wr's in rd's 3 and 4.

I agree. I went RB, RB, WR, WR, and was very happy with my results.

They are so damn unpredictable. I'd be really surprised if Cunningham had a big enough role to make him relevant. Even if he did, he's going to be in an offense that teams should be able to key on the run. I guess the same would apply to rainey. Polk will have to leap from a bit to be relevant.

So I guess my answer would be White if you are looking for a guy to be fantasy relevant without injury.

getting Nelson and Cruz in rds 3+4 is incredible value. The RB's in that range are hit or miss.

But I guess the same theory applies with a Stacy injury