The suit, filed against FIFA in U.S. District Court in California, names U.S. Soccer, American Youth Soccer Organization and other U.S. youth organisations, charging negligence regarding head injuries, according to a New York Times report.
Legit or litigious?
your son breaking his leg is far different than him laying the foundation for CTE.
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don't want your kids to get even slightly hurt, don't sign them up for sports. Really wish their were repercussions for these kids of lawsuits.
your son breaking his leg is far different than him laying the foundation for CTE.
You are right. But heading a ball isn't some made up part of the game that parents aren't aware of. I don't want any kids to have a major injury, but there's risks in every sport. If you don't want your kids to get hurt, don't let them play sports.
Parents need to start acting like parents and taking responsibility for their own misjudgment before pointing fingers.
Yeah. For 14 years. There's a right way and a wrong way. Do it right, and you're good to go.
Legit? My ass.
Matthew Mcconaughey will play me in the movie version as the intrepid, crusading lawyer who gets millions of dollars for kids with flat heads from soccer ball manufacturers.
I'm guessing you've headed two.
Just another example of people in America blaming someone else for their own failures.
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Just another example of people in America blaming someone else for their own failures.
patently false.
https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/AboutUs/News/Publications/EngineeringImpact/2013_1/COEIssue/when-is-one-hit-too-many
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If you don't want your kid to get injured, don't ever let him out of the bubble. If you, as a parent, are too stupid to know when your own kid has a concussion (or other injury) then its your fault for failing.
Just another example of people in America blaming someone else for their own failures.
patently false.
https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/AboutUs/News/Publications/EngineeringImpact/2013_1/COEIssue/when-is-one-hit-too-many
excuse me islander, i meant to quote this in response
In comment 11828336 Bill L said:
This volunteer decided to conduct drills (which actually he is not certified to do and has been told not to do so in the past), which consisted of setting up spikes. Friends daughter and a few others were on the defensive side of the drill and was sloughing off during the drills. This coach got pissed off, and while demonstrating the proper technique for the spike he decided to put a little muscle behind it. Long story short he spiked the hell out of the ball hit the daughter of my friend who fell back hitting her head on the wood floor.
She ended up with a broken nose and a pretty bad concussion...They are also thinking of suing over this
Oh, and add me to the ridiculous count.
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have you ever headed a ball?
I'm guessing you've headed two.
I see what you did there.
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In comment 11828436 islander1 said:
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If you don't want your kid to get injured, don't ever let him out of the bubble. If you, as a parent, are too stupid to know when your own kid has a concussion (or other injury) then its your fault for failing.
Just another example of people in America blaming someone else for their own failures.
patently false.
https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/AboutUs/News/Publications/EngineeringImpact/2013_1/COEIssue/when-is-one-hit-too-many
excuse me islander, i meant to quote this in response
In comment 11828336 Bill L said:
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And there's no real clear data as to whether there are long-term mental issues from heading the ball. Most studies suggest little if any negative effects. I think most head injuries in soccer are not from heading but, rather, clunking heads.
I think that you must have confused the American versus European term for football. A natural mistake...unless you live here.
There's a series of studies from a number of places, trying to correlate heading with down the road cognitive impairment. As I said, the data go in different directions with nothing conclusive.
This kepler20 is a piece of work.
That being said, the idea that parents now somehow want to limit the # of headers and are willing to sue over what is certainly a very individualized prognosis/diagnosis, is patently absurd. Its up to every parent to keep an eye on their child and if they feel he/she is at risk, have him/her removed from a youth (elective) contest immediately. Lawyers should have nothing to do with it.
He went on to be a very good student and an excellent soccer player, was all-conference all four years at Williams and now plays soccer professionally in Europe.
Bill L has actually seen him play - like 10 years ago. LOL. Bill and I never met but our kids played against each other.
Long term effects? Who knows. But he's 23 now and doing fine.
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In comment 11828456 kepler20 said:
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In comment 11828436 islander1 said:
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If you don't want your kid to get injured, don't ever let him out of the bubble. If you, as a parent, are too stupid to know when your own kid has a concussion (or other injury) then its your fault for failing.
Just another example of people in America blaming someone else for their own failures.
patently false.
https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/AboutUs/News/Publications/EngineeringImpact/2013_1/COEIssue/when-is-one-hit-too-many
excuse me islander, i meant to quote this in response
In comment 11828336 Bill L said:
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And there's no real clear data as to whether there are long-term mental issues from heading the ball. Most studies suggest little if any negative effects. I think most head injuries in soccer are not from heading but, rather, clunking heads.
I think that you must have confused the American versus European term for football. A natural mistake...unless you live here.
There's a series of studies from a number of places, trying to correlate heading with down the road cognitive impairment. As I said, the data go in different directions with nothing conclusive.
CTE is blind to both american and european football.
It only understands repeated head trauma, which both american and european football inflict onto it's players.
This kepler20 is a piece of work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_traumatic_encephalopathy#Other_athletes_diagnosed_with_CTE
Some recent imaging studies do show changes. However, there are mental security tests that don't show significant differences.
You also have to look at study groups....some look at euro players in their 30's who have over 25 years of accumulated playing time and some look at players with very short exposure.
Anecdotally, I've never seen someone go down from just heading a ball. I have seen people go down after they've taken a driven ball to the head. But most players I've seen get a concussion have either fallen and hit their head or, more often, banged their head to another head (or, I saw a foot once).
Btw, while she's still "figuring it out" she just took a (low-paying) gig as the asst coach at RPI
Btw, while she's still "figuring it out" she just took a (low-paying) gig as the asst coach at RPI
Good for her! Nice that she is in the area and still involved with the game. Shofner son #2, who she played against, was "figuring it out" the last couple of years as well, and now is getting his masters at the Maxwell School at Syracuse, in national security policy or something like that. He is still a weekend warrior on the soccer field, as is his big brother Charlie at Columbia, now almost 30 and a lawyer. They actually played left mid (son #1) and left back (son #2) together recently in a game at Chelsea Piers, both being left-footed.
BTW, anyone who doesn't know about Daughter of L, she's a great soccer player, mean and nasty on the field, and also very attractive at the same time, and very smart as well, I am sure, even if her dad questions that.
Some recent imaging studies do show changes. However, there are mental security tests that don't show significant differences.
You also have to look at study groups....some look at euro players in their 30's who have over 25 years of accumulated playing time and some look at players with very short exposure.
Anecdotally, I've never seen someone go down from just heading a ball. I have seen people go down after they've taken a driven ball to the head. But most players I've seen get a concussion have either fallen and hit their head or, more often, banged their head to another head (or, I saw a foot once).
Bill, you're out of your league on this one.
sub concussive hits have been proven to chemically alter the brain. the first link I've provided states that with a certainty; they happen to be an academic institution that holds their work up against the highest of standards. I don't quote work of shills; only scientists from academic institutions whove either been funded by the government or otherwise (re: non nfl). Any apparent conflicts of interest in academia would be stated upfront and immediately.
CTE is generally only confirmed post-mortem. This link will tell you that the cumulative effects of subconcussive hits should concern people as much as confirmed concussion events.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/03/sports/study-bolsters-link-between-routine-hits-to-head-and-long-term-brain-disease.html
That said, any litigation of this type is bogus. There is just much more contact in soccer than most parents probably realize (or realized). It isn't the result of anything FIFA, AYSO, any other youth organization, or any equipment manufacturer has done.
Still you can find other studies from other academic institutions that counter it. Different methodology, different measurements, maybe different subjects...there is still controversy in the area.
Maybe it will prove the claims are false but the whole point of the legal system in this regard is to evaluate the claims and determine the truth.
you like soccer and don't believe it. who fucking cares. that doesn't make the considerations of others bogus
Or maybe, just maybe, there are people hiding the truth for their own personal gain at the expense of others
who knows
None if that matters if parents sign their children up anyway. My question to you, which I doubt you'll answer with anything other than a link of sorts, is how come parents aren't held responsible for the choices they make?