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superspynyg : 8/28/2014 7:36 am
Drafted 7th in a 10 team league. .5ppr, 4pts for pass tds. Start 1 qb, 2 rb,2 wr, 1 te, 1 flex, def and K.

Qb Romo, Rivers (best matchup each week)
Rb Foster, Gore
Wr D Thomas, B Marshall
Te Witten
Flex V Jackson
K Hauschka
Def Carolina

bench
Rb Rice
WR Wright
TE Bennett
RB Moreno
RB A Williams...may drop for Tre Mason or Marcus Wheaton

I like my team. I did not take a rb until rd 3. If Rice comes back to 2012/2011 I have very solid team. Football guys rate my team says I have a 99% chance to make the playoffs.
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RE: RE: i can pretty much guarantee  
UConn4523 : 8/28/2014 2:25 pm : link
In comment 11829580 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 11829565 UConn4523 said:


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Lacy doesn't sniff the lead league in rushing yards. He'd need 3 or 4 guys to get injured, probably closer to 5 or 6 guys.



LOL, I love meaningless guarantees.


Its not a meaningless guarantee. Please tell me how, other than injruies, he has more yards than McCoy, Charles, AP, or Forte? That's 4 he will not surpass unless Rodgers misses time, or if any of those 4 get hurt.

I'd put him as an outside chance at the 5th spot, battling with Lynch and Murray.
RE: RE: RE: i can pretty much guarantee  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2014 2:34 pm : link
In comment 11829590 UConn4523 said:
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In comment 11829580 pjcas18 said:


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In comment 11829565 UConn4523 said:


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Lacy doesn't sniff the lead league in rushing yards. He'd need 3 or 4 guys to get injured, probably closer to 5 or 6 guys.



LOL, I love meaningless guarantees.



Its not a meaningless guarantee. Please tell me how, other than injruies, he has more yards than McCoy, Charles, AP, or Forte? That's 4 he will not surpass unless Rodgers misses time, or if any of those 4 get hurt.

I'd put him as an outside chance at the 5th spot, battling with Lynch and Murray.


Nothing is guaranteed. In forte's career he's only surpassed Lacy's rookie rushing total twice.

Same with LeSean McCoy - in fact last year was so much of an outlier for McCoy in terms of attempts; sure Kelly's offense helped (a lot), but expect a regression, not a progression IMO.

Peterson is the only one who would IMO need something catastrophic to happen.

And that's why the money has Lacy 4th. So if the guy who is rated by Bovado as 4th best odds to win the rushing title, wins it, that's not much a surprise to me.


go for it man  
UConn4523 : 8/28/2014 2:42 pm : link
you seem convinced which is fine. I happen to disagree.
total rushing yards is meaningless anyway  
UConn4523 : 8/28/2014 2:46 pm : link
Forte, McCoy, and Charles will all have considerable more yards receiving, and AP may too in his new offense.

So from a fantasy perspective, regardless of PPR, i don't see how Lacy should be taken over those guys unless you are predicting an injury.
RE: go for it man  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2014 2:46 pm : link
In comment 11829622 UConn4523 said:
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you seem convinced which is fine. I happen to disagree.


LOL, I'm not convinced, I said "I wouldn't be surprised"

I don't have Lacy in either of my league's so I'll be rooting against it.
LOL  
UConn4523 : 8/28/2014 2:48 pm : link
LOL
RE: total rushing yards is meaningless anyway  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2014 2:49 pm : link
In comment 11829634 UConn4523 said:
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Forte, McCoy, and Charles will all have considerable more yards receiving, and AP may too in his new offense.

So from a fantasy perspective, regardless of PPR, i don't see how Lacy should be taken over those guys unless you are predicting an injury.


Agree, never said he should be. Or Dez Bryant, or Calvin Johnson, or Demaryius Thomas.

I said I'd take him over AJ Green.
My draft just ended....  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:25 pm : link
Most of the guys I was targeting for mid draft were taken way earlier than I was willing to take them. First five were McCoy, Charles, Forte, AP, Lacy....

QB: Brees(2)
WR1:Calvin(1)
WR2:Cruz(4)
WR3:Maclin(7)
RB1:Bernard(3)
RB2:Jennings(5)
TE:Davis(6)
Flex:Sankey(8), Golden Tate(9), Olsen(10), Steve Smith(11)

Cam Newton(12)
Danny Amendola(13)
Carlos Hyde(14)
Pitt(15)
Vinatieri(16)


Megatron, Brees, and Gio is as good of a start  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/28/2014 9:34 pm : link
As you can hope for. I wasn't as high on Jennings as others first, but he's great value in the 5th round.

I really don't like your other 2 starting WRs. I think Cruz is going to have a major struggle this year. I know you feel differently. I'm not a big Maclin fan, especially as a 3rd WR, but you should be able to fill that hole on the wire.

As a side note, Jeremy Hill is killing it in his 4th preseason game. He has the talent to eat into some of Gio's workload by midseason.
So you're not gonna give us the trend  
Rocky Thompson : 8/28/2014 9:35 pm : link
Just your team?

Just sayin...

Gio will be splitting carries  
Rocky Thompson : 8/28/2014 9:38 pm : link
No way is he worth a 3. Better grabbing Antonio Brown/Julio Jones/Gronk and looking for a RB later.
AGF.  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:41 pm : link
I wasn't happy taking Maclin either, but we start 3 WR's and a flex and the flex in PPR leagues should usually be WR's. I really thought I'd have better WR's after Cruz, but it just didn't work out that way. TY was taken in rd 6, Wayne in rd 7. I had a choice at 15 as Lynch fell to me, but I pulled the trigger on Brees. I was torn on that one. Lynch went 16. All of my 2nd/3rd tier WR's were gone by my 4th pick as Garcon, Fitz, White went in rd 4 after me. Crabtree and Edelman went in rd 5.

I took the last of the top 3 QB's and stafford went in rd 5, Luck in 6 and then Brady in 8(2 picks before me). Most people had the same strategy to wait on qb's if they didn't get a top one.
so my pro-Sammy Watkins prediction  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 8/28/2014 9:42 pm : link
is looking pretty bad after this nagging rib injury. I still absolutely love his talent, still think he's the best WR talent to enter the league since Calvin. But a nagging injury like this before you play your 1st game is a bad sign. Combined with the shitty QB situation around him (not a new development, I know), I'm definitely lower on him than I was 2 weeks or so ago. But I still plan on scooping him up in my 14 team draft this Monday if the value is right.
Gio is going to be a stud this year  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:44 pm : link
whether he gets 75 or 60% of the touches. He was the 12th ranked RB last year despite splitting carries and not even getting touches until week 3. He's going to catch a ton of passes and get some goalline work with those "splits". I'm not worried about him. He's not someone I targetted because he was going in rd 2, but he's a steal in rd3.
Dude in my league took watkins  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:45 pm : link
in rd9.
RE: Gio will be splitting carries  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:47 pm : link
In comment 11830441 Rocky Thompson said:
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No way is he worth a 3. Better grabbing Antonio Brown/Julio Jones/Gronk and looking for a RB later.


If only I was drafting with a bunch of morons. Julio went with the first pick in rd 2, Brown went late in rd 2. The 4 picks after me taking Gio...Martin, Bush, Gronk, Foster.
Brees vs Lynch is a tough call  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/28/2014 9:47 pm : link
But with how QB favored your league is, you most likely made the right call. It's not as if you're weak at RB anyway. You should do just fine there. I think you would have been better off taking a Marques Colston or an Emmanuel Sanders instead of Maclin.

I like Steve Smith though. Amendola can also be a legitimate threat if he's healthy, which is a huge if. I have him on my team as well.
5 WR's taken after my Gio pick(which I'm very happy with)...  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:48 pm : link
VJax, Allen, Andre Johnson, Cruz(me), Garcon
I was going to take Sanders,  
kmed : 8/28/2014 9:49 pm : link
he went 5 picks before my Maclin pick. I'm telling you, there was slim pickings at WR in rd 7. Colston went a few picks after me in rd 8, probably would have been a good move to get the brees-colston combo.
Solid team, kmed...  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2014 9:51 pm : link
I don't love the WR's but I think Gio and RJ are a real solid RB 1 & 2.. I'm actually much higher on RJ now than I was a couple weeks ago. I loved him as a player but just wasn't sure how our run game was going to look. I'm pretty confident now that we're going to be able to run the ball well this year even if the passing game struggles, so.. while I wouldn't be thrilled with him as my best RB, I absolutely love him as a RB2.

Cruz is a guy I just think I am going to avoid unless he really drops. I just don't have faith in our pass offense right now. It might be ok after a few weeks but I think it's going to be a definite work in progress. Having Mega will definitely help you, though. Maclin.. if he stays healthy he should put up numbers. We'll see.

Love your QB's. I doubt anyone in your league has a better pair than Brees/Cam.

I really want Sanders  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2014 9:55 pm : link
If I can manage to get him as my WR3 somehow I will be ecstatic.
I can't believe Sanders is going ahead of Maclin now  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/28/2014 9:57 pm : link
Yeah, that's unfortunate. WRs are pretty easy to replace. You have some guys on the bench at WR that can surprise.

Again. Megatron, Brees, and Gio is as good as it gets.
1 reason I dont like his team  
dep026 : 8/28/2014 9:57 pm : link
is that he is relying on a WR/RB tandem from the same team. A combo on what looks like one of the worst offenses in the preseason.
I just checked my leagues draft  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/28/2014 10:00 pm : link
I picked Sanders 20 picks after Maclin got drafted. #humblebrag

Crazy how one preseason game skyrocketed his value.
I'm actually pissed Sanders had that monster game.  
arcarsenal : 8/28/2014 10:04 pm : link
Because I was targeting him before that and was really high on him but now I know he's going to be harder to get because someone will probably go above his value and reach a little. I don't want to be that guy because WR is deep.
Thoughts on mine?  
NyquistX3 : 8/28/2014 10:16 pm : link
I don't like this team much, but I think I have a chance to make the playoffs.

12 team, 0.5 PPR, auction draft.

QB- Aaron Rodgers
WR- Larry Fitzgerald
WR- Victor Cruz
WR- Marques Colston
RB- Rashad Jennings
RB- CJ Spiller
TE- Jordan Reed
Flex- Trent Richardson
Flex- Terrance Williams

Bench:
Phillip Rivers
Wes Welker
Eli Manning
Heath Miller
Jonathan Stewart
Steve Smith
Donald Brown

I like  
pjcas18 : 8/28/2014 10:23 pm : link
your QB's, but really a 3rd QB?

Where is devonta freeman going in your drafts? I got in him in the 14th, and i think he could be one of those rookie RB's to make an impact.
Thoughts?  
GP : 8/28/2014 10:24 pm : link
10 team, no ppr, I had he 8th slot .

QB Stafford
RB Lacy
RB Ellington
WR AJ Green
WR Jeffery
TE Olsen
FLEX Cruz
D/ST Seattle
K Novak

Bench
RB S Jackson
WR S Watkins
RB D Brown
WR M Evans
RB B Pierce
WR Amendola
TE C Clay
That's why I kind of like having the draft so early  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/28/2014 10:25 pm : link
I've said this a week or so ago, but you definitely get a little gut check when the pre season isn't laying everything out for you on who's performing well, how many 1st team snaps he gets, etc.

If I had my draft today, I wouldn't have took LeVeon Bell so early. I underestimated how many snaps Blount would get. I thought Bell was going to be a true workhorse. But I also got what I believe to be value picks in guys like Sanders and Vereen. It's a two way street and makes it more fun IMO.

The preseason injuries are a real downside to early drafting, but it's part of the game too.
GP  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/28/2014 10:27 pm : link
Phenomenal team. Your team would kick kmeds teams ass.
This is true, your team would beat me,  
kmed : 8/28/2014 11:33 pm : link
but I'm curious, who went where? Lacy at 8, AJ in rd 2, Jeffery in rd 3 and Ellington in rd 4? Then Cruz made it all the way back to rd 5? Then Stafford in 6? Cmon, how can you even compare that to any other league?
Just pulling your leg  
AnotherGiantsFan : 8/29/2014 12:14 am : link
I'm assuming that cannot actually be a money league and is just a casual for fun league with co-workers/friends. There's no way people put good money into that and let GP build that kind of roster. Taking candy from a baby.
..  
GP : 8/29/2014 6:48 am : link
Haha.. Definitely a money league with some solid football guys.

Lacy Rd 1.
Green Rd 2.
Jeffery Rd 3.
Ellington Rd 4.
Stafford Rd 5.
Cruz Rd 6.
Jackson Rd 7.
Olsen Rd 8.
Seahawks Rd 9.
Watkins Rd 10.
Brown Rd 11.
Evans Rd 12.
Pierce Rd 13.
Amendola Rd 14.
Novak Rd 15.
Clay Rd 16.
In the same league with GP  
BuffaloFanInGMenTerritory : 8/29/2014 8:28 am : link
I don't know how he ended up with such a great roster, with such solid receivers and RBs. But this is my team below:

QB Cam Newton
WR1 Demaryius Thomas
WR2 Keenan Allen
RB1 Montee Ball
RB2 Giovani Bernard
FLEX CJ Spiller
TE Jordan Reed
PK Steven Hauschka
DEF Bengals

BENCH
WR Percy Harvin
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
WR Rueben Randle
WR Erik Decker
WR Rod Streater
RB Devonta Freeman
TE Antonio Gates
..  
GP : 8/29/2014 8:30 am : link
the sites that rate my squad say I only have about a 60-75% chance of making the playoffs with good inseason roster management. They're not very high on my RBs.
any reason why 10 team league guys  
UConn4523 : 8/29/2014 9:16 am : link
don't add in 2 more managers?

I find 10 team leagues cheapen things. Digging deep isn't really required. 24 less players is a huge difference, and lessens the amount of luck involved, even if only a little bit.
I like 10 teams better,  
kmed : 8/29/2014 9:38 am : link
but we added an extra roster spot to make it a little deeper. 3 WR's, 2 RB's and a Flex.
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arcarsenal : 8/29/2014 9:41 am : link
UConn.. my league is 10 teams but we do 8 bench spots, so.. you do kind of have to do a little digging and use those extra spots wisely. Sometimes the guys that get taken really late to fill back end bench spots wind up being difference makers. And it's less likely that that RB that gets a chance due to an injury will be a FA.. someone will probably have him rostered.
I do a 12 and a 10 team league  
nygiants16 : 8/29/2014 9:42 am : link
I do find myself working harder on the 12 team league rather than the 10 but both are fun...the 12 team league is my big money league and the 10 is a lot less money but fun becausew i do it with my dad...

got my draft tomorrow for my 12 is it weird i am hoping i am in the back half of the draft...i know the top 4 you will get a top RB but i am kind of hoping to be in that 7-10 range to get a top WR and either another top WR or the RB that falls to me like Lynch...
12 team  
EricNY33 : 8/29/2014 9:47 am : link
leagues are the only way to go, IMO. 10 team leagues are easier to navigate through. I did learn how to play fantasy football in 10 team leagues though.
we've tried all types of the years and now go with 12 teams  
UConn4523 : 8/29/2014 9:48 am : link
15 roster spots starting QB, RBx2, WRx2, TE, Flex x2, DEF with 6 bench spots.

we knocked off 1 bench spot and added the 2nd flex since it forced you to play another player that may not be a stud, and keep you from stashing too many players. Makes drafting more important i have found.
To me,  
kmed : 8/29/2014 9:59 am : link
that just adds more luck to the equation. With that thin of a league, if your first round pick goes down, you are screwed. I'm all about the 10 team leagues, I don't like the 12 team leagues. We added an extra starter to offset everyone having a great team and to me, it's perfect.
to each their own  
UConn4523 : 8/29/2014 10:18 am : link
injuries are part of the game, which is why i hedge my early picks with likelihood of getting injured. Having too many bench spots lets people hold on to so many back-up RB's that there isn't much activity in following closely week to week.

In any case, was just wondering how everyone else does it.
I agree regarding the bench spots,  
kmed : 8/29/2014 10:40 am : link
I don't like having too many because it takes the waiver wire out of the equation.
so curious what happens to Sankey  
UConn4523 : 8/29/2014 10:52 am : link
didn't physically see him yesterday, but I followed the first half. Tennesse barely had the ball since they couldn't stop the Vikings drives but Sankey ripped off a couple bigger runs and caught a pass.

He's clearly the most talented by a substantial margin. Just a matter of them committing to him and dealing with whatever mental mistakes he may make.

Just Hunter looks like he will have a bright future. Glad a got him late.
RE: 12 team  
pjcas18 : 8/29/2014 10:53 am : link
In comment 11831116 EricNY33 said:
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leagues are the only way to go, IMO. 10 team leagues are easier to navigate through. I did learn how to play fantasy football in 10 team leagues though.


If your goal is to win money, why wouldn't you want 10 team if it's easier to navigate through, whatever that means.

RE: RE: 12 team  
EricNY33 : 8/29/2014 11:24 am : link
In comment 11831291 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 11831116 EricNY33 said:


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leagues are the only way to go, IMO. 10 team leagues are easier to navigate through. I did learn how to play fantasy football in 10 team leagues though.



If your goal is to win money, why wouldn't you want 10 team if it's easier to navigate through, whatever that means.


It's easier to navigate when you have better talent available to you.

I like it when a league is more of a challenge.
Challenge schmallenge  
pjcas18 : 8/29/2014 11:28 am : link
I want to win, and the only thing I like about 12-team better than 10 team is there is usually more money.

But less margin for error in 12-team, you can be eliminated a lot easier with a major injury or poor performer than you can in 10-team, I like the recovery ability and still feel like it rewards the more prepared people.
winning money is great  
UConn4523 : 8/29/2014 11:39 am : link
but I take more pleasure in beating my friends. I've been playing with the same guys for 13 years now. Its way more for when its more competitive.
Same here  
pjcas18 : 8/29/2014 11:46 am : link
but if it was free or if we did do it, people would lose interest once they were somewhat eliminated.
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