NFT: Fantasy Football 8-28

or Gore this year, but other than that it looks solid.

Foster and gore this year may be huge busts

Also not a cowboys fan so romo and Witten.. Eh

No top QB and your RBs are mediocre.

played on a very bad team. The year before he had 1400 yards rushing 15 tds and over 300 yards rec. He is still young and only been in the league since 2009. I have more faith in him than Zac Stacy, Ellington and such. Plus there is no committee with Tate now on the Browns.

Gore always gets his work. I missed Morris by like 2 picks in rd 3.

and came away w the following (I give myself a C+):

Forte, Matt
Cobb, Randall
Morris, Alfred
Cruz, Victor
Cameron, Jordan
Richardson, Trent
Benjamin, Kelvin
Cutler, Jay
Hyde, Carlos
Wilson, Russell
Clay, Charles
Matthews, Jordan
Mason, Tre
St Loo D
McManus, Brandon (temporary, I realize)

I'd be curious who else was available.

In comment 11828739 JOMO25 said:

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and came away w the following (I give myself a C+): Forte, Matt Cobb, Randall Morris, Alfred Cruz, Victor Cameron, Jordan Richardson, Trent Benjamin, Kelvin Cutler, Jay Hyde, Carlos Wilson, Russell Clay, Charles Matthews, Jordan Mason, Tre St Loo D McManus, Brandon (temporary, I realize)

As far as my values in the rounds you took them:

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heavy D points (not IDP) and return yards (ind too)

QB: Tony Romo (7)
QB: Russell Wilson (11)
RB: Adrian Peterson (1)
RB: Montee Ball (2)
WR: Antonio Brown (3)
WR: Randall Cobb (4)
TE: Gronk (5)
Flex: Michael Floyd (6)
D/ST: New England (8)
K: Matt Bryant (14)
BN: Ben Tate (9)
BN: Kendall Wright (10)
BN: Ladarius Green (12)
BN: Devonte Freeman (13)

10-team so lots of quality on the waiver wire and i need a TE in case Gronk can't start the season.

Yahoo said I should win the league.

but I know I'm in the minority on that. Too much risk for me, but I understand he has a very high upside. I just don't like taking that kind of risk early in the draft.

Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10.

I think your team is great and Ben Tate is a great pick in rd 9.

I like him - don't get me wrong, but am curious to your line of thinking. A pretty "meh" trade posted on yesterday's thread got high marks from you due to him, as well.

I try to stay unbiased (and likely downgrade Giant players because of it), but am wondering if I'm looking too hard at last season and not taking into account his (and this offense's) potential.

In comment 11828768 kmed said:

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but I know I'm in the minority on that. Too much risk for me, but I understand he has a very high upside. I just don't like taking that kind of risk early in the draft. Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10.

I thought i could get a QB later, esp with only 4pts per TD, but when I picked Romo it was during a run on QB's, the 7th round started with Brady who I wanted, then went Cam Newton, Matt Ryan and then I took Romo.

the remaining starting quality QB's were Foles (who I have in my other league and just didn't want to double up) - he went later in the 7th, RG3, Kaepernick, Rivers (who might represent the best value and went in the 10th, - but he's someone's 2nd QB and I've read a lot of negative projections for him), Cutler, Big Ben, Russel Wilson (who is my backup), and Andy Dalton.

I hate relying on Cutler and Rivers I prob could have waited on.

I didn
t want to take Romo, felt i had to, but...that being said I think he has a good year and outperforms many QB's drafted ahead of him if he can stay healthy. That line should be good, he's got offensive weapons and a defense that should keep him on the field.

I don't love Ball, but some RB in Denver is going to benefit from that offense. Likely it's him.

Let's also assume that Cruz stays healthy this year. He's got a pretty good track record, so there isn't much injury risk.

So last year Victor Cruz was the 28th ranked WR and he only played in 14 games. That puts him as a low end WR2. If you annualize his season, he's probably closer to the 15 range which is a good WR2.

So that's in a season where just about everything went wrong and we had trouble completing passes all season long. Even in a shortended season he still was top 25 in targets too, we just couldn't complete passes last year due to a variety of reasons.

In 2012, cruz was the 12th ranked WR in my league and in 2011 Cruz was a top 5 WR. I believe that this offense will be greatly improved from last year and I believe that Cruz will be the biggest benefactor from that. He's our best WR, he's our best offensive playmaker and by most accounts the slot receiver cleans up in this offense.

That's why I really like Cruz at his current value. He's a very low end wr1 or a high end wr2 in my book and in the 4th round, that's gold.

Here's a guy that's had a plethora of great fantasy seasons and then had 1 really bad year. He's got a great offensive system and great offensive weapons. I'm very high on rivers this year and his value is one of the best in the draft, IMO.

Same is true for Foster. With handcuffs, the risk of them breaking down is somewhat mitigated.

In comment 11828785 kmed said:

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Let's also assume that Cruz stays healthy this year. He's got a pretty good track record, so there isn't much injury risk. So last year Victor Cruz was the 28th ranked WR and he only played in 14 games. That puts him as a low end WR2. If you annualize his season, he's probably closer to the 15 range which is a good WR2. So that's in a season where just about everything went wrong and we had trouble completing passes all season long. Even in a shortended season he still was top 25 in targets too, we just couldn't complete passes last year due to a variety of reasons. In 2012, cruz was the 12th ranked WR in my league and in 2011 Cruz was a top 5 WR. I believe that this offense will be greatly improved from last year and I believe that Cruz will be the biggest benefactor from that. He's our best WR, he's our best offensive playmaker and by most accounts the slot receiver cleans up in this offense. That's why I really like Cruz at his current value. He's a very low end wr1 or a high end wr2 in my book and in the 4th round, that's gold.

Good insight, thanks.

keep in mind that my opinion is not always in line with the majority and I think I'm on a small island with cruz. Most people think that this offense will struggle like last year and if they do, Cruz will probably have a season like last year. Even if that happens though and he ends up as the 30th ranked WR, it's not going to kill your team if you draft him in rd4.

I truly believe that he's going to be our workhorse and in a PPR league he has a really good upside. I think he's a fairly safe pick as well because I don't see Williams snaking too many carries between the 20's.

but I wouldn't really want to have both of them.

In comment 11828798 kmed said:

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keep in mind that my opinion is not always in line with the majority and I think I'm on a small island with cruz. Most people think that this offense will struggle like last year and if they do, Cruz will probably have a season like last year. Even if that happens though and he ends up as the 30th ranked WR, it's not going to kill your team if you draft him in rd4.

No worries, not taken as the gospel - but gives me a chance to step back and get a different opinion. As mentioned, I likely underrate Giants to avoid biases, so its good to hear a well-reasoned alternative take on Cruz.

I dont like him where he is going in most Mocks i think people are over valuing him because of what Moreno did last year in that offense...I dont like RBs that are in an offense where teh RB is interchangeable...meaning whatever RB is in there that player is going to put up numbers...that makes Ball less valued because he can be substituted in and out at any time...I like him more in the 3rd round...

As for Cruz i see him as a number 2 receiver this year with the potential to be a low end 1...I think as the offense progresses with the short routes he is going to be relied on a lot more and get a ton of catches..I think Manning will rely on him early in the year because he is Manning's most veteran receiver that he trusts...

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Here's a guy that's had a plethora of great fantasy seasons and then had 1 really bad year. He's got a great offensive system and great offensive weapons. I'm very high on rivers this year and his value is one of the best in the draft, IMO.

No clue, but that's where he's going. I'm nearly 100% sure I could trade my backup (Russell Wilson) to the team with Philip Rivers today if I am so inclined.

QB Brady
RB Peterson
RB Ball
WR Marshall
WR Crabtree
TE Ertz
Flex Ellington
D/ST Bengals
K Bryant

Bench- Torrey Smith, Steven Jackson, Lamar Miller, Emmanuel Sanders, Brandin Cooks, Tim Wright, Big Ben

.5 ppr and we draft a few defensive players too, but typically most won't draft those def players until later on, round 15 or so... But someone always drafts a JJ Watt or a LB earlier, which of course is extremely stupid since even the best defensive player scoring output doesn't come close to a 4th WR, but I digress...

Lynch slipped to 10 so I took him and AJ green back to back.
Got Reggie bush and garçon next
Ty Hilton and NYG Jennings
The titans WR and joique bell

Got Phillip rivers late. Russel wilson soon after

My TEs are kind of weak I guess but they don't score much in my league-- got the skins TE and can't remember my backup but he's a decent starter..

Got the pats dst...got good defensive players...

We shall see.. I also got knowshon Moreno really really late and feel like he could be a huge sleeper this year...

In comment 11828838 Mr Brightside said:

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QB Brady RB Peterson RB Ball WR Marshall WR Crabtree TE Ertz Flex Ellington D/ST Bengals K Bryant Bench- Torrey Smith, Steven Jackson, Lamar Miller, Emmanuel Sanders, Brandin Cooks, Tim Wright, Big Ben

I like it, ertz may be behind Celek for a while so you could struggle at TE until he overtakes him.

Notably Antonio brown, got picked soon after I took aj green. The first WR picked in my leave was dem Thomas, not megatron which I found odd. Mega went second.

So when my 3rd pick came many if not all of the elite Wrs were gone except garçon. So I took the rb, bush and garçon there... I actually thought long and hard about taking Rashad Jennings there but took bush based on his ppr potential. Lucky for me was able to get Jennings in the next round.

You're missing half the game...

Didn't see your post

Depends on how much value you give your IDPs

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Here's a guy that's had a plethora of great fantasy seasons and then had 1 really bad year. He's got a great offensive system and great offensive weapons. I'm very high on rivers this year and his value is one of the best in the draft, IMO.

I agree. I love rivers this year especially at where he can be drafted. I took him in the 9th round as my starting QB. People were falling all over themselves drafting guys like Matt Ryan, and Tom Brady in rounds 4 or 5 but rivers out performed them last year and very little has changed in his offense this year. Why can't rivers duplicate his 2013 campaign? He's done it before. More often than not rivers is a top 7 ff QB sometimes even too 3-4-5. Rivers is a steal this year.

Yep I've been doing an IDP draft for 16 seasons now. We start 1 DL, 2LBs and 1 DB. Love it. And it's easy to exploit because most guys aren't thay diligent week to week. You can and will get huge FA pickups every year, even mid way through or late in the year. Just gotta pay attention every week...the draft is important but FA can really bail you out.

In comment 11828891 djm said:

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In comment 11828788 kmed said: Quote: Here's a guy that's had a plethora of great fantasy seasons and then had 1 really bad year. He's got a great offensive system and great offensive weapons. I'm very high on rivers this year and his value is one of the best in the draft, IMO. I agree. I love rivers this year especially at where he can be drafted. I took him in the 9th round as my starting QB. People were falling all over themselves drafting guys like Matt Ryan, and Tom Brady in rounds 4 or 5 but rivers out performed them last year and very little has changed in his offense this year. Why can't rivers duplicate his 2013 campaign? He's done it before. More often than not rivers is a top 7 ff QB sometimes even too 3-4-5. Rivers is a steal this year.

For one thing the Chargers play the NFC West and AFC East - two of the best defensive conferences.

Last year defensively they had one of the easiest schedules in the league.

Even the Cardinals and Rams have good D's the Pats and Jets do, it's just going to be different for him than last year - in many people's opinions. Additionally, their own conference has some improved defenses.

Additionally, Brady has Gronk and Vereen back, Ryan has Julio Jones back, and so Rivers outperformed them last year, it's unlikely he does again this year - IMO.

I like Rivers and had him targeted late but he went right before I picked (Literally) and I picked Russell Wilson who is a guy I think will probably outpoint Philip Rivers in fantasy football this year with another year running that offense, a healthy percy harvin and some new weapons.

but they are a waste of time if you only have to start 2 or 3 total. If you're doing it where you have to start like 8-10 a week, then you have something. Of course that extends the draft out an extra hour+, and most of the people I'm in leagues with wouldn't commit to that kind of effort.

Got an opening in a 16 team league. 11 IDPs

Interested?

I'll hook you up with the Commish.

Like I said earlier the best lbs will barely keep pace scoring with average Wrs. The dropoff from the best LB to the 15th best is merely 15-20 points or so give or take. One exception being maybe a JJ watt at his best, etc... But I'd just as soon wait and load up on offense and then get my def players later. I have legit def studs starting and backing up. I'm good to go...

10 team league, 1 QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D, ST

I had the 7th pick and the first 6 picks were running backs and there always seemed to be a run on them right before my pick. I'm hoping to flip a TE or WR for a RB. Also, Im counting on finding a RB on waivers once someone gets injured.

QB: Rivers, Dalton
RB: Vereen, Johnson, J. Hill, Greene
WR: D. Thomas, K. Allen, Floyd, Colston, Hunter, Evans
TE: Graham, Gronk

In order of picks:

Graham, Thomas, Gronk, Allen, Vereen, Floyd, Johnson, Colston, Rivers, Hill, Hunter, Greene, Evans

Am I totally screwed? Does Hill have a chance of being a sleeper?

But the commish changed it this year to just 4.

and drafted Bernard Pierce in the sixth round. Sigh.

be your flex?

graham and gronk? before gronk gets hurt you should flip him for a late top tier RB.

Is the best RB option on Baltimore. I drafted him after someone took Ray Rice and I'm confident Pierce will be the feature back. You could have gotten him later but don't dump him.

Btw, I don't think that's Snowy White on the Pigs on a Wing video. I can't prove it yet but I'm researching...

Round 2 is not a reach for him. He plays on a great system for RBs. He can catch the ball. I don't really see why some on this thread think he's a risk? How is he any more of a risk than any other RB? He also has nobody to worry about behind him on the depth chart. Neither of those guys are stealing his job. He seems like a safe pick to me

Is the next Aaron Hernandez? (According to Ian Rappaport)

I don't see him getting too many looks with all the other options Brady has...

I was drafting 3rd and was very happy to get him at the bottom of round 2.

Any thoughts on this 12 team Non-PPR team?

QB(1): Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger
RB(2): Adrian Peterson, Montee Ball, Lamar Miller, Andre Williams, Carlos Hyde
WR(2): Brandon Marshall, Keenan Allen, Roddy White, Brandin Cooks, Marques Colston
TE(1): Martellus Bennett, Ladarius Green
PK(1): Robbie Gould
TD(1): St. Louis Rams
Flex(1) RB/WR/TE

reaction is the team looks tiny

On this thread...

to avoid wraparound on my roster.

In comment 11828930 Rocky Thompson said:

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Is the best RB option on Baltimore. I drafted him after someone took Ray Rice and I'm confident Pierce will be the feature back. You could have gotten him later but don't dump him. Btw, I don't think that's Snowy White on the Pigs on a Wing video. I can't prove it yet but I'm researching...

Interesting. I was under the impression that it was snowy white. You're talking about the extended pigs wing version, right?

In comment 11828935 Rocky Thompson said:

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Is the next Aaron Hernandez? (According to Ian Rappaport) I don't see him getting too many looks with all the other options Brady has...

I do not buy him as the next Aaron Hernandez. He's more like brandon myers than Aaron hernandez IMO. Definitely will catch passes and he's in a system that will maximize his production, but will not have the YAC or elusiveness Hernandez and can't block (so he has that in common with hernandez).

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don't love this team very much:

QB - Brady, Palmer
RB - Ball, Spiller, R. Bush, SJax, Bradshaw, Helu
WR -Marshall, Wallace, Benjamin, Bowe, Moncrief
TE - Cameron, Graham (HOU)
D - panthers
K- vinitari

I kept getting screwed with the guys I wanted being taken right before I picked. its a ppr league and my WR are pretty weak so that might hurt. I can start 3 of those RB's and they'll all be good PPR RB's I think.