NFT: Fantasy Football 8-28

Yes, a TE can be a flex. I'm hoping Gronk gets healthy and rips off a monster stretch early and I'll try to flip him for a top tier RB. Risky, but I never felt like reaching for someone like Gearhart.

A few questions:

1. What are the thoughts on Vereen? The Pats seem very down on Ridley so won't Vereen get the majority of the carries?

2. Isn't Jeremy HIll going to be used in the Green-Ellis role this year? If so, isn't there a chance he actually gets more touches than Bernard?

The one CiP posted last month. Even though it says in the Youtube comments that it's Snowy White, it doesn't sound like him and the timing doesn't work. I could be wrong but...

I have gone to a deeper source, I'll put some time into it tonight.

..as for Tim Dwight I don't believe he will mimic the production we saw from Aaron Hernandez. He's not the athlete Hernandez was. And he probably won't murder anyone but there's still time.

In comment 11828974 26.2 said:

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don't love this team very much: QB - Brady, Palmer RB - Ball, Spiller, R. Bush, SJax, Bradshaw, Helu WR -Marshall, Wallace, Benjamin, Bowe, Moncrief TE - Cameron, Graham (HOU) D - panthers K- vinitari I kept getting screwed with the guys I wanted being taken right before I picked. its a ppr league and my WR are pretty weak so that might hurt. I can start 3 of those RB's and they'll all be good PPR RB's I think.

I'm trying to figure out who your first pick even was. Marshall? Ball?

I'm not familiar w/ PPR but I have to say I don't like your team. It's full of guys who are very questionable and it seems like you're depending on a lot of RBs with long injury histories.

Nothing on your team really jumps out as a strength. But as I said, I'm not familiar w/ PPR and maybe some of those RBs are much better than I think.

I do love Montee Ball though.

Thoughts on my team posted at 10:03? Am I totally screwed w/ my crappy RBs?

just really bad value for a 10 team league. I like my team better in a 12 team league.

no, you'll find RB's throughout the year. The team you draft is usually never the same as it is for the playoffs. There will be tons of injuries to take advantage of which is why I find getting stud WR's more important.

In comment 11829010 armstead98 said:

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I'm not familiar w/ PPR but I have to say I don't like your team. It's full of guys who are very questionable and it seems like you're depending on a lot of RBs with long injury histories. Nothing on your team really jumps out as a strength. But as I said, I'm not familiar w/ PPR and maybe some of those RBs are much better than I think. I do love Montee Ball though.

my first pick was ball. I was set to pick D Thomas, but he got snapped up right before I was picking. then coming back I was set take Julio when marshall was there.

in a ppr league bush and spiller will be a lot more valuable than they would otherwise.

Thanks. Thats basically what I figured and at each pick there were rarely RBs that didn't feel like reaches.

Who are the backup RBs to stash this year?

Hyde, obviously. Davonte Freeman? If Jennings goes down we all know Williams will see a lot of work. Who else?

In comment 11829028 26.2 said:

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In comment 11829010 armstead98 said: Quote: I'm not familiar w/ PPR but I have to say I don't like your team. It's full of guys who are very questionable and it seems like you're depending on a lot of RBs with long injury histories. Nothing on your team really jumps out as a strength. But as I said, I'm not familiar w/ PPR and maybe some of those RBs are much better than I think. I do love Montee Ball though. my first pick was ball. I was set to pick D Thomas, but he got snapped up right before I was picking. then coming back I was set take Julio when marshall was there. in a ppr league bush and spiller will be a lot more valuable than they would otherwise.

should say Julio was taken right before me.

when I got ball I could have taken Graham, Dez or lynch.

In comment 11828932 BigBlueShock said:

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Round 2 is not a reach for him. He plays on a great system for RBs. He can catch the ball. I don't really see why some on this thread think he's a risk? How is he any more of a risk than any other RB? He also has nobody to worry about behind him on the depth chart. Neither of those guys are stealing his job. He seems like a safe pick to me

I understand that my opinion is not shared by many, but the risks that I see:

1. He has no history of success with just 120 carries last year.

2. He has not proven to be durable. Always scary with RB's, but it takes a special back to be able to handle a full workload. If I'm drafting that early, I usually like a history of being able to handle it.

3. Moreno stole the spotlight last year, but they do like to split carries. If Ball doesn't do the same, he will lose carries because it's system and offense driven, not player driven.

Again, I understand that my opinion is not shared by many, but I don't like taking risks, particularly with RB's that early in teh draft. Just a personal preference.

In comment 11829038 26.2 said:

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In comment 11829028 26.2 said: Quote: In comment 11829010 armstead98 said: Quote: I'm not familiar w/ PPR but I have to say I don't like your team. It's full of guys who are very questionable and it seems like you're depending on a lot of RBs with long injury histories. Nothing on your team really jumps out as a strength. But as I said, I'm not familiar w/ PPR and maybe some of those RBs are much better than I think. I do love Montee Ball though. my first pick was ball. I was set to pick D Thomas, but he got snapped up right before I was picking. then coming back I was set take Julio when marshall was there. in a ppr league bush and spiller will be a lot more valuable than they would otherwise. should say Julio was taken right before me. when I got ball I could have taken Graham, Dez or lynch.

Ball in teh first round is a reach...i would of went Dez, he could end up being the best WR in fantasy football this year...

You could of then probably got Ball in teh 2nd if you wanted or still gone with Marshall and then in a PPR league you have Marshall and Dez 2 guys who will get close to 100 catches 1500 yards receiving and 10+ tds...

was Lynch there in the 2nd?

every single day, regardless of league format.

In comment 11829052 UConn4523 said:

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every single day, regardless of league format.

Agreed after Charles, Mccoy, Forte, Ap, Lacy and MAYBE Lynch there is no RB i would take in the first round...

If i am at 12 on saturday night i am probably going Lynch and best WR still on board as my back to back picks...

In comment 11828914 armstead98 said:

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10 team league, 1 QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2Flex, D, ST I had the 7th pick and the first 6 picks were running backs and there always seemed to be a run on them right before my pick. I'm hoping to flip a TE or WR for a RB. Also, Im counting on finding a RB on waivers once someone gets injured. QB: Rivers, Dalton RB: Vereen, Johnson, J. Hill, Greene WR: D. Thomas, K. Allen, Floyd, Colston, Hunter, Evans TE: Graham, Gronk In order of picks: Graham, Thomas, Gronk, Allen, Vereen, Floyd, Johnson, Colston, Rivers, Hill, Hunter, Greene, Evans Am I totally screwed? Does Hill have a chance of being a sleeper?

I think your RB's are weak but you have the best TE, you have potentially the best WR or (almost certainly top 2-3) and I think Rivers is undervalued. I love Floyd this year and if you got him in the 6th that is amazing value. I don't think you're totally screwed at all. I think if you can waiver wire a RB a few weeks in and get one of those guys a-la Zac Stacy last year, your team will be totally fine.

In the early rounds of my draft, but there's no way in hell that I'd take a guy who never had a full workload for at least half a season in the late first/early second round. I'm sure he can have a fantastic season, but he's anything but a value pick at that spot. You're taking a leap of faith when you have safer options that are actually proven.

It's really that simple.

In comment 11829047 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 11829038 26.2 said: Quote: In comment 11829028 26.2 said: Quote: In comment 11829010 armstead98 said: Quote: I'm not familiar w/ PPR but I have to say I don't like your team. It's full of guys who are very questionable and it seems like you're depending on a lot of RBs with long injury histories. Nothing on your team really jumps out as a strength. But as I said, I'm not familiar w/ PPR and maybe some of those RBs are much better than I think. I do love Montee Ball though. my first pick was ball. I was set to pick D Thomas, but he got snapped up right before I was picking. then coming back I was set take Julio when marshall was there. in a ppr league bush and spiller will be a lot more valuable than they would otherwise. should say Julio was taken right before me. when I got ball I could have taken Graham, Dez or lynch. Ball in teh first round is a reach...i would of went Dez, he could end up being the best WR in fantasy football this year... You could of then probably got Ball in teh 2nd if you wanted or still gone with Marshall and then in a PPR league you have Marshall and Dez 2 guys who will get close to 100 catches 1500 yards receiving and 10+ tds... was Lynch there in the 2nd?

like I said, D Thomas went before I picked ball and that's who I wanted. lynch and julio were gone when I picked marshall (it was him or AJ green)...I like bush in this league at the end of R3 (Jennings went right before him who I was considering) and keenan allen and LFitz went back to back right before I picked Spiller. it was him or andre johnson and I wanted to avoid him. I just didn't get the breaks I wanted I guess.

my problem is I also try to avoid NFCE players as well. stupid strategy if you want to win, but I do enjoy it more.

I would have taken Lynch at 10 over Ball.

nad considering the names that should be available with my 2nd pick(Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Marshall, Lynch, Julio) I wouldn't even consider Ball ahead of any of those guys.

To thank the football gods for the much needed infusion of RB talent that came single handedly from the 2013 NFL Draft?

Gio Bernard
Le'Veon Bell
Montee Ball
Eddie Lacy
Zac Stacy
Andre Ellington

One year removed, and these are all major contributors to their team. That has to be an anomaly in todays NFL. There are still guys like Khiry Robison, Christine Michael, and Knile Davis who can show something within the next couple of years.

Oh, and Michael Cox too. Obviously.

In comment 11829089 arcarsenal said:

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I would have taken Lynch at 10 over Ball.

maybe. I just thought ball has a bit more upside but at the end of the year, if they both stay healthy I bet its a wash.

Your just screwing yourself out of fantasy then by not draft nfceast players...

You could of had Dez and Aj green in a PPR league...you would of had a great foundation for your team...guaranteed 40-50 points every week...

No way i would of went with Ball in that situation...

and then you passed on AJ Green for Marshall? i dont know about that either...

I just dont like your thinking there especially in a PPR league...

QB: Luck, McCown
RB: Gio Bernard, Tate, MJD, Khiry Robinson
WR: Dez, Allen, VJax, Cooks, Hunter
TE: Reed, Pitta
D: New England
K: Tucker


James White is available...McCown is home against ATL on Luck's bye so I kind of liked that matchup, but is White worth having and finding another backup for that week?

or opinions(which is impossible or really hard without seeing many more details), I'd love to hear how some of your draft trends went. That would be very helpful...

PPR leagues, QB's getting 6 pts per TD...

1. When did the top 3 QB's go?
2. What were the first 10 picks?
3. Was there a run on RB's? When?
4. When did the 2nd tier TE's go(anyone not named Graham)?

Things like that would be very helpful.

In comment 11829111 knicks3031 said:

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QB: Luck, McCown RB: Gio Bernard, Tate, MJD, Khiry Robinson WR: Dez, Allen, VJax, Cooks, Hunter TE: Reed, Pitta D: New England K: Tucker James White is available...McCown is home against ATL on Luck's bye so I kind of liked that matchup, but is White worth having and finding another backup for that week?

I'm going to guess you had teh 10th pick and took Dez/Gio back to back and then Allen/VJax 3/4? Luck 5, Tate 6 and Reed 7?

In comment 11829107 nygiants16 said:

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I just dont like your thinking there especially in a PPR league...

lol. no worries man. I knew by round 5 I was in trouble with this team. I picked 10th. had I had the 9th pick I'd have a much better team right now.

In comment 11829124 kmed said:

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In comment 11829111 knicks3031 said: Quote: QB: Luck, McCown RB: Gio Bernard, Tate, MJD, Khiry Robinson WR: Dez, Allen, VJax, Cooks, Hunter TE: Reed, Pitta D: New England K: Tucker James White is available...McCown is home against ATL on Luck's bye so I kind of liked that matchup, but is White worth having and finding another backup for that week? I'm going to guess you had teh 10th pick and took Dez/Gio back to back and then Allen/VJax 3/4? Luck 5, Tate 6 and Reed 7?

Exactly right except switch Tate and Luck

In comment 11829098 AnotherGiantsFan said:

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To thank the football gods for the much needed infusion of RB talent that came single handedly from the 2013 NFL Draft? Gio Bernard Le'Veon Bell Montee Ball Eddie Lacy Zac Stacy Andre Ellington One year removed, and these are all major contributors to their team. That has to be an anomaly in todays NFL. There are still guys like Khiry Robison, Christine Michael, and Knile Davis who can show something within the next couple of years. Oh, and Michael Cox too. Obviously.

And it was considered a bad year for RBs. Wait until this year. This may be the best draft in recent memory for backs.

In comment 11829122 kmed said:

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or opinions(which is impossible or really hard without seeing many more details), I'd love to hear how some of your draft trends went. That would be very helpful... PPR leagues, QB's getting 6 pts per TD... 1. When did the top 3 QB's go? 2. What were the first 10 picks? 3. Was there a run on RB's? When? 4. When did the 2nd tier TE's go(anyone not named Graham)? Things like that would be very helpful.

1 - All 3 went round 1, was shocked
2 - McCoy, Charles, Peterson, Forte, Lacy, Manning, Calvin, Graham, Rodgers, Thomas
3 - Run on RB's were picks 1-5, 13/14, 16/17, 19/21/22
4 - Thomas went 41, Gronk 43

but I hate using a top pick on Luck. I think that's such a stretch. Once you get below the top 3, there are a good 5-7 guys that have the potential to put up monster numbers. If I miss out on the top 3, I see no reason to even consider a QB before rd 7.

In comment 11829122 kmed said:

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or opinions(which is impossible or really hard without seeing many more details), I'd love to hear how some of your draft trends went. That would be very helpful... PPR leagues, QB's getting 6 pts per TD... 1. When did the top 3 QB's go? 2. What were the first 10 picks? 3. Was there a run on RB's? When? 4. When did the 2nd tier TE's go(anyone not named Graham)? Things like that would be very helpful.

My league was .5 ppr, Qbs get 6 points per TD.

The 1st round - Charles, McCoy, Forte, AP, Lacy, Lynch, Calvin, Jimmy, Demaryius, Dez, AJ, Marshall

Peyton, Brees, Rodgers were gone by the middle of the 2nd round.

After the 1st 6 RBs, there was a run on WR. From pick 7 to 24, there was 9 WRs picked. So in the 1st 2 rounds, 11 RBs, 9 WRs, Graham and 3 QBs

Julius Thomas went in the 3rd, Gronk in the 4th, Cameron and Davis in the 5th.

great stuff. I really hope all 3 QB's don't go rd 1 in my draft. Although, I have a top 15 and if I do miss out on them, maybe a guy like Lynch or Marshall fall to me.

I thought some of the QB went insanely early

Round 1
LeSean McCoy RB
Jamaal Charles RB
Adrian Peterson RB
Eddie Lacy RB
Matt Forte RB
Marshawn Lynch RB
Peyton Manning QB
Arian Foster RB
Calvin Johnson WR
Jimmy Graham TE
Drew Brees QB
Aaron Rodgers QB

Round: 2
Demaryius Thomas WR
Doug Martin RB
Dez Bryant WR
Alfred Morris RB
Matthew Stafford QB
Giovani Bernard RB
DeMarco Murray RB
Colin Kaepernick QB
A.J. Green WR
Montee Ball RB
Le'Veon Bell RB
Julio Jones WR

I should have waited a little longer, I was just concerned that the run on QBs was about to begin. Stafford, Newton, Matt Ryan all went a few picks before mine. So it may have been a reach, but I didn't want to get stuck with someone I didn't like

thanks for the draft detail.

I'm getting concerned that I might miss out on a QB in the 2nd round.

Standard ESPN league with 6pt TDs. I picked 3rd. What do you guys think?

1 Jamaal Charles, KC RB

2 Jordy Nelson, GB WR

3 Antonio Brown, Pit WR

4 Rob Gronkowski, NE TE

5 C.J. Spiller, Buf RB

6 Bishop Sankey, Ten RB

7 Fred Jackson, Buf RB

8 Tom Brady, NE QB

9 Tony Romo, Dal QB

10 Hakeem Nicks, Ind WR

11 Rueben Randle, NYG WR

12 Devonta Freeman, Atl RB

13 Bengals D/ST D/ST

14 Adam Vinatieri, Ind K

15 Kenny Stills, NO WR

16 Josh Gordon, Cle WR

no problem. Was pissed because had I know (hindsight is a blast) I wouldn't have wanted the #1 pick. I would have wanted 12 and doubled up on Bryant/Green and just waited on RB completely.

In comment 11829170 Sly Guy said:

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Standard ESPN league with 6pt TDs. I picked 3rd. What do you guys think? 1 Jamaal Charles, KC RB LOVE 2 Jordy Nelson, GB WR EH 3 Antonio Brown, Pit WR LOVE 4 Rob Gronkowski, NE TE LIKE 5 C.J. Spiller, Buf RB LIKE 6 Bishop Sankey, Ten RB DONT LIKE 7 Fred Jackson, Buf RB DONT LIKE 8 Tom Brady, NE QB LOVE 9 Tony Romo, Dal QB LIKE 10 Hakeem Nicks, Ind WR DONT LIKE 11 Rueben Randle, NYG WR LIKE 12 Devonta Freeman, Atl RB 13 Bengals D/ST D/ST 14 Adam Vinatieri, Ind K 15 Kenny Stills, NO WR 16 Josh Gordon, Cle WR LOVE

Not PPR:

QB: Toy Romo
RB's: Giovani Bernard, Doug Martin
WR's: Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall
Flex: Bernard Pierce
TE: Charles Clay
K: Nick Novak
Def: Arizona

Bench:
Jay Cutler
Ben Tate
Andre Williams
Randall Cobb
DeSean Jackson
Martellus Bennett

Drafting QBs in a real draft is unpredictable. By the time I went to pick a QB, some teams already have 2 QBs. In my draft, I picked Brady and Romo back to back because they were the last two QBs left. (Cutler and Rivers were already gone by the time I picked in the 8th).

Not complaining though, I think I picked up some good value players.

Really like that team. Jordy and Brown being available with your 2nd and 3rd picks is really surprising

In comment 11829122 kmed said:

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or opinions(which is impossible or really hard without seeing many more details), I'd love to hear how some of your draft trends went. That would be very helpful... PPR leagues, QB's getting 6 pts per TD... 1. When did the top 3 QB's go? 2. What were the first 10 picks? 3. Was there a run on RB's? When? 4. When did the 2nd tier TE's go(anyone not named Graham)? Things like that would be very helpful.

1. Not worth answering. As you know, our leagues value QBs completely different.

2. McCoy, Charles, Forte, AP, Lacy, Megatron, Graham, Lynch (surprise), Dem Thomas, Dez Bryant (me)

3. Tough to answer as there were multiple runs at different tiers. But a bit of a surprising run was in round 3. Foster (25), Ellington (27), Morris (29), Rashad Jennings (30), Doug Martin (31), CJ Spiller (33). There was a run in the 4th round too.

I think you are going to surprised how early Rashad Jennings goes in your draft.

4. Gronk went at 28, which I felt was a major reach. Julius Thomas went at 36. Vernon went at 43. Cameron at 57.

I love what you did at QB. I think that in the end, it will help you that everyone else was reaching for QB's. Brady in rd 8? In 2012 he was a top QB. I wouldn't bet that he gets back to that level, but is it out of question? I do expect him to improve on last year. Romo has a sick oline and some weapons around him, I think he's also a great value at 9.

I think you are right regarding Jennings. In 90% of the mock drafts I've done, I've gotten him in rd 5, but my league has a plethora of Giants fans, plus they aren't idiots compared to the people that do those mocks.

In comment 11829182 Sly Guy said:

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Drafting QBs in a real draft is unpredictable. By the time I went to pick a QB, some teams already have 2 QBs. In my draft, I picked Brady and Romo back to back because they were the last two QBs left. (Cutler and Rivers were already gone by the time I picked in the 8th). Not complaining though, I think I picked up some good value players.

Yeah, wasn't taking anyone if I didn't get a big 3 by round 2.

Took Brady in the 7th, very happy with it.

in my work league.