NFT: Fantasy Football 8-28

In comment 11829192 kmed said:

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I love what you did at QB. I think that in the end, it will help you that everyone else was reaching for QB's. Brady in rd 8? In 2012 he was a top QB. I wouldn't bet that he gets back to that level, but is it out of question? I do expect him to improve on last year. Romo has a sick oline and some weapons around him, I think he's also a great value at 9.

Thanks Kmed. At that point, I just needed a QB. I was the only one left without a QB.

I was targeting Matt Ryan but he went way too early. I was surprised Brady was still available and I took Romo right afterward because of the value (trade bait).

In comment 11829201 Steve in South Jersey said:

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in my work league.

Your league also had Colin kaepernick and Mat Stafford go in the 2nd, have to take your league with a grain of salt...sorry

Benny Cunningham is making a late push for atleast a share of the workload and possibly can start if he gets hot and Stacy keeps posting pedestrian stats.

I think I may be dropping McCluster for him...thoughts?

and I'd be happy if it shook out like that. Ideally I want one of the big 3 in rd 2, but if I miss out, I want everyone else to start reaching out of fear so I can do exactly what you did. Take a guy like brady and then another guy with upside right after.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch says that "if Benny Cunningham isn't challenging Zac Stacy for the starting job, he's certainly pushing him for playing time."

Beat man Jim Thomas says Cunningham has been the best Rams running back this preseason, echoing similar statements from ESPN's Nick Wagoner. This comes on the heels of Stacy playing off the bench behind Cunningham in the third preseason game. While we fully expect Stacy to hold the starting job and be the main back, he can't afford to lose too much volume. He averaged just 3.89 yards per carry and 5.42 yards per reception last year. Cunningham is worth a late-round flier until the uncertainty here shakes out.

In comment 11829211 UConn4523 said:

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Benny Cunningham is making a late push for atleast a share of the workload and possibly can start if he gets hot and Stacy keeps posting pedestrian stats. I think I may be dropping McCluster for him...thoughts?

Wait and see what Mccluster does with Tennessee...he may be used more than you think...if you can wait to see what they both do week 1 and then go from there...

you are such a pjcas18 hater and you exposed yourself here.

Romo is "great value" in the 9th you just told that guy (sly?)...

I drafted him in the 7th, and here is your answer:

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Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10.

But you tell that guy you love him in round 9. Come on dude, just say you like my time, and I'm a stellar drafter and get it over with.

My 7th round included:
Brady
Newton
Matt Ryan
Matt Prater (LOL from an auto-drafter)
Mike Wallace
RG3
Romo****
Nick Foles
Seattle D

the 8th round is:
Gostkowski
Torrey Smith
Lamar Miller
SF D
Kyle Rudolph
Edelman
Pats D***
Bengals D
Witten
TY Hilton


So if I don't draft Romo there which gem do you like so I could have got great value of Romo two rounds later - when he wouldn't have been there.

And in the 9th I took Ben Tate.

I tried to draft a running back higher, but my computer took that moment to freeze and draft another WR. (I coulda had Foster)

QB: Rodgers, Brady
RB: Doug Martin, Reggie Bush, M. Jones-Drew, Jeremy Hill
WR: D. Thomas, Keenan Allen, Jeremy Maclin, Eric Decker, Reuben Randle
TE: Vernon Davis, Jordan Reed
K: Steve Hauschka
Def: NE Patriots

We start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, K, D

In comment 11829215 kmed said:

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The St. Louis Post-Dispatch says that "if Benny Cunningham isn't challenging Zac Stacy for the starting job, he's certainly pushing him for playing time." Beat man Jim Thomas says Cunningham has been the best Rams running back this preseason, echoing similar statements from ESPN's Nick Wagoner. This comes on the heels of Stacy playing off the bench behind Cunningham in the third preseason game. While we fully expect Stacy to hold the starting job and be the main back, he can't afford to lose too much volume. He averaged just 3.89 yards per carry and 5.42 yards per reception last year. Cunningham is worth a late-round flier until the uncertainty here shakes out.

Haha, just posted that (not the direct quote). Basically just need to pull the trigger i guess.

Cunningham
James White
Khiry Robinson
McCluster

In comment 11829218 pjcas18 said:

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you are such a pjcas18 hater and you exposed yourself here. Romo is "great value" in the 9th you just told that guy (sly?)... I drafted him in the 7th, and here is your answer: Quote: Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10. But you tell that guy you love him in round 9. Come on dude, just say you like my time, and I'm a stellar drafter and get it over with. My 7th round included: Brady Newton Matt Ryan Matt Prater (LOL from an auto-drafter) Mike Wallace RG3 Romo**** Nick Foles Seattle D the 8th round is: Gostkowski Torrey Smith Lamar Miller SF D Kyle Rudolph Edelman Pats D*** Bengals D Witten TY Hilton So if I don't draft Romo there which gem do you like so I could have got great value of Romo two rounds later - when he wouldn't have been there. And in the 9th I took Ben Tate.

I am a pj hater, but not because I want to be!

Um, the 9th round is 2 rounds and at least 20 picks after the 7th round.

In comment 11828974 26.2 said:

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don't love this team very much: QB - Brady, Palmer RB - Ball, Spiller, R. Bush, SJax, Bradshaw, Helu WR -Marshall, Wallace, Benjamin, Bowe, Moncrief TE - Cameron, Graham (HOU) D - panthers K- vinitari I kept getting screwed with the guys I wanted being taken right before I picked. its a ppr league and my WR are pretty weak so that might hurt. I can start 3 of those RB's and they'll all be good PPR RB's I think.

I was pretty happy to get Dez and Julio, thanks!

In comment 11829225 knicks3031 said:

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Cunningham James White Khiry Robinson McCluster

Probably in that order if the Benny news is legit. I'm taking a flier, just dropped McCluster for him.

In comment 11829218 pjcas18 said:

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you are such a pjcas18 hater and you exposed yourself here. Romo is "great value" in the 9th you just told that guy (sly?)... I drafted him in the 7th, and here is your answer: Quote: Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10. But you tell that guy you love him in round 9. Come on dude, just say you like my time, and I'm a stellar drafter and get it over with. My 7th round included: Brady Newton Matt Ryan Matt Prater (LOL from an auto-drafter) Mike Wallace RG3 Romo**** Nick Foles Seattle D the 8th round is: Gostkowski Torrey Smith Lamar Miller SF D Kyle Rudolph Edelman Pats D*** Bengals D Witten TY Hilton So if I don't draft Romo there which gem do you like so I could have got great value of Romo two rounds later - when he wouldn't have been there. And in the 9th I took Ben Tate.

Pjacs could you have had Foles? or was it the other way around and could of had Brady, Newton or Ryan?

9th.

In comment 11829218 pjcas18 said:

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you are such a pjcas18 hater and you exposed yourself here. Romo is "great value" in the 9th you just told that guy (sly?)... I drafted him in the 7th, and here is your answer: Quote: Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10. But you tell that guy you love him in round 9. Come on dude, just say you like my time, and I'm a stellar drafter and get it over with. My 7th round included: Brady Newton Matt Ryan Matt Prater (LOL from an auto-drafter) Mike Wallace RG3 Romo**** Nick Foles Seattle D the 8th round is: Gostkowski Torrey Smith Lamar Miller SF D Kyle Rudolph Edelman Pats D*** Bengals D Witten TY Hilton So if I don't draft Romo there which gem do you like so I could have got great value of Romo two rounds later - when he wouldn't have been there. And in the 9th I took Ben Tate.

I almost got in trouble laughing at work with that "Pjcas18 hater".

I think kmed meant it was a good value because based on my league, all the QBs were gone by the time I needed to grab one. Romo and Brady were literally the only start-able QBs left.

Foles.

brady, newton, etc. were gone.

And I like Foles, and maybe this is one of those idiosyncrasies you as a drafter need to block out, but I have Foles in my other league.

I have two leagues and did not want Foles in both.

In comment 11829218 pjcas18 said:

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you are such a pjcas18 hater and you exposed yourself here. Romo is "great value" in the 9th you just told that guy (sly?)... I drafted him in the 7th, and here is your answer: Quote: Also, hate the Romo pick. There are a good 5 QB's I have in his tier and you can get one in rd 10. But you tell that guy you love him in round 9. Come on dude, just say you like my time, and I'm a stellar drafter and get it over with. My 7th round included: Brady Newton Matt Ryan Matt Prater (LOL from an auto-drafter) Mike Wallace RG3 Romo**** Nick Foles Seattle D the 8th round is: Gostkowski Torrey Smith Lamar Miller SF D Kyle Rudolph Edelman Pats D*** Bengals D Witten TY Hilton So if I don't draft Romo there which gem do you like so I could have got great value of Romo two rounds later - when he wouldn't have been there. And in the 9th I took Ben Tate.

It is hysterical how much kmed shits on whatever you say and it's blatantly obvious he goes out of his way to do it to you. But I do think that Romo and Rivers are on the same "tier" and you could have gotten him in round 9-10.

In comment 11829238 pjcas18 said:

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Foles. brady, newton, etc. were gone. And I like Foles, and maybe this is one of those idiosyncrasies you as a drafter need to block out, but I have Foles in my other league. I have two leagues and did not want Foles in both.

ok fair enough...i think i would of went Foles there personally but i see why you didnt...i am the oppposite i like having some of the same players in both leagues because then i dont have 1 league i need someone to score for me and in the other i need the same player to do bad...

From what i have watched of Tate so far this pre season he looks quick and healthy...hopefully he can stay healthy he is going to be a steal for someone as their RB2 or Flex

In comment 11829122 kmed said:

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or opinions(which is impossible or really hard without seeing many more details), I'd love to hear how some of your draft trends went. That would be very helpful... PPR leagues, QB's getting 6 pts per TD... 1. When did the top 3 QB's go? 2. What were the first 10 picks? 3. Was there a run on RB's? When? 4. When did the 2nd tier TE's go(anyone not named Graham)? Things like that would be very helpful.

1) I took the 3rd QB in the second round.
2) Manning, McCoy, Peterson, Charles, Forte, Lacy, CJ, D. Thomas, Jimmy Graham, Drew Brees
3) Kinda a small one: 1, 2 rounds
4) Round 5 (Thomas then Gronk)

I just usually find myself thinking the exact opposite of pj on almost everything. It doesn't make me right, it just makes him wrong.

that Giovani Bernard and Jeremy Hill could get equal carries this year...

Lurker.

In comment 11829243 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 11829238 pjcas18 said: Quote: Foles. brady, newton, etc. were gone. And I like Foles, and maybe this is one of those idiosyncrasies you as a drafter need to block out, but I have Foles in my other league. I have two leagues and did not want Foles in both. ok fair enough...i think i would of went Foles there personally but i see why you didnt...i am the oppposite i like having some of the same players in both leagues because then i dont have 1 league i need someone to score for me and in the other i need the same player to do bad... From what i have watched of Tate so far this pre season he looks quick and healthy...hopefully he can stay healthy he is going to be a steal for someone as their RB2 or Flex

Most players I agree with this and it's why I'm only in 2 leagues this year. I used to get asked all the time to join a league and pay $100 and draft and then before you know it I'm in 4 or 5 leagues. I have LeSean McCoy in one league and I'm playing against him in another, on Monday night I need Phillip Rivers to get me 22 points to win, but if he gets 35 I'll lose.

it sucked.

So I got out of all except my one main keeper league and at the last second got sucked in to this one with my hockey team buddies. small money ($50) and most people don't know FFL - you saw prater was drafted in the 7th round, someone drafted Josh Gordon - maybe the same person, and almost everything patriot was over-drafted.

but it's fun, I just didn't want the same QB.

I properly millered this thread!

I disagree with him when he says Dez is a risk because Ball is a risk and then cites Dez getting hurt and suspended. Yet Dez hasn't been suspended and hasn't missed a game in 2 years despite having a 2 year history of being a top fantasy WR. Am I wrong for "shitting on him" about that??

In comment 11829254 Rocky Thompson said:

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I properly millered this thread!

unless you're posting under another handle, he wasn't talking to you

and I'm out on the IDP league. I'm in 13 at this point, and I think I'm maxed out.

I actually chose Rivers (106) over Romo (109). Maybe that was a bad move on my part, but I just like Rivers so much. He looked so good last year and that poured into this preseason.

But I notice QBs tend to go fast in our league. Last year I lost track and wound up with Flacco and Dalton late.

I had the 7th pick this year in a 10 person league. I picked Rodgers in the second round because Brees and Manning were already gone.

TE's have a tendency to stick around.

agf.

I hope they wind up splitting carries. My RB's stink, I'm still ticked that the computer hangs right when I pick.

I would say 13 is maxed out...

Here's my team from the 11th pick (ie right after his) in that league:

QBs - RGIII, Wilson
RBs - P. Thomas, MJD, Greene
WRs - Dez, Julio, Fitz, Edelman, Welker, Britt, Hawkins, Hurns
TEs - Gronk, H. Miller

Yes the RBs are crap, but you only have to start 1 (and then go 4 WR).

yikes. I don't like your RB situation at all(thank you captain obvious), but it's compounded by your QB situation which I also don't like. I like your top 4 WR's and Gronk has upside with risk.

and can start 4 wrs in a PPR you should be fine...I think you end up starting Wilson a lot over RG3...

you may be able to even trade one of your Wrs for a RB if you wanted...

In comment 11829255 kmed said:

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I disagree with him when he says Dez is a risk because Ball is a risk and then cites Dez getting hurt and suspended. Yet Dez hasn't been suspended and hasn't missed a game in 2 years despite having a 2 year history of being a top fantasy WR. Am I wrong for "shitting on him" about that??

See, I'm being misquoted. I didn't say Dez was a risk because Ball was a risk, I simply pointed out that they both have risks - mutually exclusive of each other. I said Dez has been injured. and I'll give you an example. 2012 I had Dez on my team and he was unreal. He landed on his hand and injured his thumb (might have been the game against the Giants where he was OB to lose the game for them). He was a GTD the next week and had 1 catch for 15 yards.

but I think there are a good 10-11 better options than Wilson too.

In comment 11829282 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 11829255 kmed said: Quote: I disagree with him when he says Dez is a risk because Ball is a risk and then cites Dez getting hurt and suspended. Yet Dez hasn't been suspended and hasn't missed a game in 2 years despite having a 2 year history of being a top fantasy WR. Am I wrong for "shitting on him" about that?? See, I'm being misquoted. I didn't say Dez was a risk because Ball was a risk, I simply pointed out that they both have risks - mutually exclusive of each other. I said Dez has been injured. and I'll give you an example. 2012 I had Dez on my team and he was unreal. He landed on his hand and injured his thumb (might have been the game against the Giants where he was OB to lose the game for them). He was a GTD the next week and had 1 catch for 15 yards.

Ok, let's go with that. Dez played through an injured finger 2 years ago and had 1 bad week so he's a risk. Dudes pretty much a guarantee to end up as a top WR.

I'm fucked. That would really suck

But I really don't like RG3 this year. I get that preseason is preseason, but he has looked like hot garbage.

As opposed to popular opinion, I don't think Russel Wilson is a good QB, but since he runs with the ball I'm sure he has fantasy value.

when I go WR heavy early, but they got snagged in front of me in this one.

they don't want him to run and I've yet to see him have any kind of success without running. Add in that he's a major injury risk and I wouldn't touch him beyond a late draft flier(which I know won't happen) at best.

this whole thing started because someone asked if they were alone thinking Bryant would be the #1 WR.

I have been hearing that a lot. In my keeper league one team traded their second round pick to move up in the first and take Dez.

All I said was Dez has as much risk being AFTER the other elite WR's (like megatron, Marshall, D-thomas, etc) as Ball does of not being a good 2nd round.

the comparison was made simply to highlight inherent risks with each player.

In fact if I had to wager, I'd say Ball has a better chance of outperforming his peer group (mid to late 2nd round RB's) than Dez does of his (top 5 WR's).

and gambled on RG3's potential at that point. Took Wilson as a safe insurance policy - low downside on him and he has some upside if his regular season looks anything like his preseason.

but unfortunately I think you are going to be cashing that in rather quickly.

not as pleased with that draft as I am with most of my others.

I was distracted in the beginning as I was wrapping up another draft for the first 30 minutes of this one, and was doing a poor job of tracking who was available.

He's just such a competitor at heart. He really has that kind of passion that any fan would want a player to have. But him being that competitive and a hot head could be a really bad combo if his team is playing really awful. Which has a decent shot of happening for the 'Boys this year. So with that, there are some self implode risks I guess. But it's also his contract year and Dez has only matured as the years went by. As a Dez Bryant owner, I'm not all that worried. I'm more worried about Romo staying healthy.

is that it's a contract year and he's asking for a lot of money that the boys don't seem to want to pay right now.

for Dez I mentioned weren't that he was going to have a bad year, just that he'd be behind the guys I'd draft him behind like Calvin Johnson, D. Thomas, and maybe even AJ Green, Brandon Marshall,could Julio Jones and even Jordy Nelson.

all those guys have risks too.

Romo, though, I think he could have his best season. I think the Cowboys offense is primed to light it up, and Dez of course will benefit from that. Best o-line they've had since the Aikman days, and a good group of weapons. And their D should keep the offense on the field.

I see Romo being on the cusp of the tier 1 QB's. He'll be behind Peyton, Brees, and Rodgers, but not many else I'd wager him to lag behind in terms of FFL points.

Of course in the end Stafford, Ryan, Brady, Foles, etc. could outscore him, but I'm gambling they don't.

in a non PPR league? Rankings have them pretty close, but AJ is safer.