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Early New York Giants 2015 NFL Draft Preview by Colin

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 11:43 am
Colin provided this piece for BBI in anticipation of this weekend's college games.
Early New York Giants 2015 NFL Draft Preview - ( New Window )
Our chances this year are not that hopeless  
UberAlias : 8/28/2014 11:45 am : link
lol.
Colin  
MookGiants : 8/28/2014 11:47 am : link
is very good at what he does and definitely knows more than I do generally but I would hate to be the team that drafts Kevin Hogan with a top 10 pick. I don't even think he's that good of a college QB, and I don't see much NFL future for him either.
Thanks, Colin  
Bill in UT : 8/28/2014 12:05 pm : link
Some people to watch during the year
Thanks  
Jay in Toronto : 8/28/2014 12:12 pm : link
I think Havenstein is strictly a RT.

Mel Gordon is the most consistently exciting RB I have ever seen in decades of following the Badgers. To his credit he stayed for his junior year, in part to work on his blocking and pass receiving.
Thanks Colin  
English Alaister : 8/28/2014 12:15 pm : link
Always an interesting read
Maybe the Giants will spend a premium pick on a Tight End in 2015.  
Klaatu : 8/28/2014 12:16 pm : link
Then again, maybe not.
OTs  
Colin@gbn : 8/28/2014 12:19 pm : link
Hey Jay: Good to hear from you; in fact once you get past the first 5-6 OTs one is really talking about primarily RT types, but if one option for the Giants is to slide Pugh to the left side then that's what they could very well be looking for. In that context for those that can see the A&M/Carolina game this evening USC2 has a couple of pretty good RT prospects in Robinson and Shell while Cann is one of the better more athletic OGs around.

Re Hogan; Mook, we actually base much of what we do on what we hear from NFL scouts and there is indeed mixed opinion on Hogan; some really like him; some don't; we in fact don't think he'll come out this year at all, but we will let Rob Rang and the guys at CBS sports know that Mook over at the BBI thinks they have Hogan way too high at #25.
ha  
MookGiants : 8/28/2014 12:21 pm : link
I'm sure we will see them drop him off the board if you let them know my opinion. Thanks for the preview, good stuff as always.
Colin, Shawn Oakman  
bob in tx : 8/28/2014 12:36 pm : link
as second day DE? That would surprise me. Also, what do you think about Prewitt (Miss.)Drummond (Mich. St)and Richards( Stanford) as safeties?
RE: Maybe the Giants will spend a premium pick on a Tight End in 2015.  
robbieballs2003 : 8/28/2014 12:44 pm : link
In comment 11829265 Klaatu said:
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Then again, maybe not.


Did you see that block by Amaro downfield on that Chris Johnson TD on the screen against us?
great overview Colin  
Victor in CT : 8/28/2014 12:48 pm : link
thanks. Glad to know that OL and DL will be strengths off this draft.
Hey Colin  
Jay in Toronto : 8/28/2014 12:51 pm : link
always great to have Canadian content ;)

I was unimpressed by Havenstein initially, but he has developed. It will be interesting if the Badgers go with alternating their two very different QBs. Then you can evaluate his traditional QB protection as well a moving pocket
If the giants  
dontboobigblue : 8/28/2014 12:54 pm : link
have a chance to draft Jameis Winston, regardless of how Eli plays this year they have to do it.

Colin  
njm : 8/28/2014 12:58 pm : link
A WR who could turn out to be a sleeper for the 2015 draft is WR Leonte Carroo of Rutgers. He was absolutely lighting things up last year until he beat an SMU CB for a 25 yd TD pass in overtime, got pushed after making the reception and ended up running into an unpadded brick wall at 3/4 speed. He never fully recovered, which was exacerbated by a late season concussion.
I will be interested in watching  
dune69 : 8/28/2014 1:09 pm : link
Marcus Mariota for Oregon. He looks like his skill-set may find success in the NFL. I want Eli to get us a couple more Lombardi's but I look for our next QB to have arm strength, smarts, with more mobility.
I love Eli  
dontboobigblue : 8/28/2014 1:15 pm : link
but I love the giants more. It's a rare case where you get a chance to draft a highly regarded qb. Eli will be 34 or 35 next year.

It would be a no brainer to draft Mariotta or Winston IMO.
Thanks Colin  
Marty866b : 8/28/2014 1:24 pm : link
But I agree with Mook about Hogan. I see lots of Pac-12 games and I don't view Hogan as one of the better quarterbacks in the conference. He' s very inconsistent throwing the ball down the field. He has also played behind great offensive lines and a strong running game. I wouldn't pick Hogan in the first two round based on his play BEFORE this season.
RE: RE: Maybe the Giants will spend a premium pick on a Tight End in 2015.  
Klaatu : 8/28/2014 2:00 pm : link
In comment 11829323 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 11829265 Klaatu said:


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Then again, maybe not.



Did you see that block by Amaro downfield on that Chris Johnson TD on the screen against us?


Rub it in, ya rat bastid. Heavy sigh.

I'd still take Richburg, though.
Landon Collins to the Giants  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 2:01 pm : link
Believe it and it will happen
I've already seen the comparisons regarding Scherff to Gallery  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 2:05 pm : link
No feet. I've never really paid attention to Scherff, but if he's as brutish and strong as people say he is and that he has no feet, perhaps he'd be better in a phone booth at OG.
Stefon Diggs  
g-baby : 8/28/2014 2:41 pm : link
If Randle doesn't step up this year I'd draft Stefon Diggs in a second. Kid is a STUD with the heart of a lion. He should get a lot more exposure on a decent Maryland team that moves to the B1G this year.
TE  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 2:47 pm : link
It's really hard for me to believe that out of the group of Davis, Robinson, Fells and Donnell they can't get another Ballard type.

They should have drafted a guy in the last rounds or pulled in more UDFA TEs.

One of these bums has to come through. Else, we have to spend a premium pick in 2015.
As Colin said though, the TE class is very weak  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 2:52 pm : link
O'Leary is the only potential first rounder and he has durability, off-the-field and size issues. Funchess will only play WR at Michigan and probably can't play TE at the next level given that he's a shitty blocker (think of Michael Egnew).


My favorite is Heuerman (pronounced "Hire Man" out of Ohio State). I watched him against Clemson in the Bowl game and he's one hell of a blocker. He also caught a TD pass (he was wide open).
Thanks, Colin  
JonC : 8/28/2014 3:30 pm : link
Been waiting for this material and college football to get rolling.
Thanks.  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 3:41 pm : link
Great stuff.
RE: Colin  
barens : 8/28/2014 3:48 pm : link
In comment 11829183 MookGiants said:
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is very good at what he does and definitely knows more than I do generally but I would hate to be the team that drafts Kevin Hogan with a top 10 pick. I don't even think he's that good of a college QB, and I don't see much NFL future for him either.


While I totally agree with you, he's not all that much different than Jake Locker was, and Hogan doesn't get hurt as frequently. We'll see, he's got a really good offense around him this year.
RE: As Colin said though, the TE class is very weak  
Dunedin81 : 8/28/2014 4:27 pm : link
In comment 11829644 Anakim said:
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O'Leary is the only potential first rounder and he has durability, off-the-field and size issues. Funchess will only play WR at Michigan and probably can't play TE at the next level given that he's a shitty blocker (think of Michael Egnew).


My favorite is Heuerman (pronounced "Hire Man" out of Ohio State). I watched him against Clemson in the Bowl game and he's one hell of a blocker. He also caught a TD pass (he was wide open).


It is very difficult to predict what a class of anything will look like. A preseason mock from last season certainly identified a few first rounders but more than half of the guys they expected to go in Round 1 didn't. Certainly a premier TE or two could emerge this year.
Jameis Winston  
TheGM : 8/28/2014 6:22 pm : link
Is not going to be a good NFL QB.
Colin  
TheGM : 8/28/2014 6:25 pm : link
What are your thoughts on Nebraska RB Ameer Abdullah
RE: RE: As Colin said though, the TE class is very weak  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 7:49 pm : link
In comment 11829836 Dunedin81 said:
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In comment 11829644 Anakim said:


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O'Leary is the only potential first rounder and he has durability, off-the-field and size issues. Funchess will only play WR at Michigan and probably can't play TE at the next level given that he's a shitty blocker (think of Michael Egnew).


My favorite is Heuerman (pronounced "Hire Man" out of Ohio State). I watched him against Clemson in the Bowl game and he's one hell of a blocker. He also caught a TD pass (he was wide open).



It is very difficult to predict what a class of anything will look like. A preseason mock from last season certainly identified a few first rounders but more than half of the guys they expected to go in Round 1 didn't. Certainly a premier TE or two could emerge this year.


While that's true, you can generally get a good idea of where a player will go based on ability more than stats. Based on ability, very few TEs stand out
priorities  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 11:10 pm : link
Tackle/TE/QB/DE

In that order
RE: Colin  
njm : 8/29/2014 8:37 am : link
In comment 11829358 njm said:
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A WR who could turn out to be a sleeper for the 2015 draft is WR Leonte Carroo of Rutgers. He was absolutely lighting things up last year until he beat an SMU CB for a 25 yd TD pass in overtime, got pushed after making the reception and ended up running into an unpadded brick wall at 3/4 speed. He never fully recovered, which was exacerbated by a late season concussion.


1st play from scrimmage in last night's Rutgers - Washington State game, Carroo beats the corner for a 78 yd TD pass.
Great job  
jeff57 : 8/29/2014 12:51 pm : link
Decent chance to get one of the five top OT. Less of a chance to get a DE unless they really tank.
RE: Jameis Winston  
section125 : 8/29/2014 2:37 pm : link
In comment 11829977 TheGM said:
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Is not going to be a good NFL QB.


#1 He's not coming out next year according to his dad supposedly staying til gets his degree. I am surprised.

Yes he will be a decent to good NFL QB, minimum.
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