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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 7:11 pm
Lose-Lose  
Big Blue '56 : 8/28/2014 7:12 pm : link
BBI:

-If the starters do well in limited snaps: "They played against scrubs."

-If the starters do poorly in limited snaps: "They couldn't even do well against scrubs."

The over/under on this occuring?
.  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 7:20 pm : link
Seriously though there is no excuse for the offense tonight. None whatsoever.
Let's get out of this game unscathed. ..  
MaineGiantFan : 8/28/2014 7:21 pm : link
Then concentrate on De
kepler20  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 7:21 pm : link
You're a big fan of definitive statements, aren't you?
Then concentrate on  
MaineGiantFan : 8/28/2014 7:22 pm : link
Detroit. Damn phone...
Take a look at the other games  
Mike in AZ : 8/28/2014 7:24 pm : link
All of the teams are starting their backup QBs. I really wish we were sitting our starters - nothing good can come out of it.
Prayers sent for health for all tonight  
SGMen : 8/28/2014 7:24 pm : link
Too many injuries in these games for the Giants so lets walk out healthy and ready for the season.
So much for our discussion last night  
Defenderdawg : 8/28/2014 7:26 pm : link
@ebenezersamuel: Per @ravensinsider, Giants reached injury settlement with Emmanuel Dieke. He's off injured reserve.
No  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:31 pm : link
injuries please.
What the fuck man  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 7:32 pm : link
no Giants broadcast on NFL Preseason Live? I didn't get the Giants broadcast once.
RE: kepler20  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 7:32 pm : link
In comment 11830039 Eric from BBI said:
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You're a big fan of definitive statements, aren't you?


All the stars are aligned for us to do well tonight, if we don't you should consider it as cold hard proof the offensive struggles are real and tangible.
RE: What the fuck man  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 7:33 pm : link
In comment 11830054 Jints in Carolina said:
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no Giants broadcast on NFL Preseason Live? I didn't get the Giants broadcast once.

Yep. WTF? We're the home team dammit.
Why  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:34 pm : link
do we only get the Patriots broadcast team for NFL preseason live, especially when this is a home game for the Giants?
kepler20  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 7:34 pm : link
Have you ever watched the last preseason game before?

It's a glorified scrimmage.

It'd be nice if the starting offense did well in their 15 plays, but if they do or don't, it doesn't matter all that much. What matters is when it counts.
RE: What the fuck man  
Mayhap : 8/28/2014 7:35 pm : link
In comment 11830054 Jints in Carolina said:
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no Giants broadcast on NFL Preseason Live? I didn't get the Giants broadcast once.


Yeah, I'm getting pretty sick of listening to the opposing announcers every week. Would have been nice to hear the Giants announcers at least once.
RE: What the fuck man  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 7:35 pm : link
In comment 11830054 Jints in Carolina said:
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no Giants broadcast on NFL Preseason Live? I didn't get the Giants broadcast once.


I got the first few minutes of the Giants-Steelers game with Papa, then it switched to the Pittsburgh broadcast with 10 minutes to go in the 1st.
At least they had that extra preseason game.  
gmen1234 : 8/28/2014 7:36 pm : link
I really want Mario to make the team. I guess if he doesn't he really wouldn't help anyway.
RE: What the f$&@ man  
yalebowl : 8/28/2014 7:36 pm : link
It sucks big time.

Anyone know how to sync the radio broadcast from the internet?

Jints in Carolina said:
no Giants broadcast on NFL Preseason Live? I didn't get the Giants broadcast once.
EJ Manuel  
BigBlueCane : 8/28/2014 7:36 pm : link
is not very good.
.  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 7:36 pm : link
2. Definitive Statements.

In general, it's best to make statements as positive and definitive as possible. Rather than saying, for instance, "The Romans might seem to be possibly the greatest success story in Western Civilization," make a bolder assertion instead, something like "The Romans are the greatest success story . . ." Wishy-washy statements, undercut by waffling like "might seem to be possibly," are usually the product of incomplete thinking. It suggests the writer hasn't yet made up his mind about the Romans' achievements and isn't ready to commit them to paper.

Indeed, the force with which you drive home your ideas is a good measure of how well you've done your homework. If you've tackled a problem head on and really wrestled with it, you will have strong opinions about the subject. In that case, the words you use to express those opinions will naturally be forthright and clear.

Let me put it clearly. Keep away from "may," "might," "could," "would," and "seem." Their adverbial counterparts, "possibly" and "probably," also weaken an argument. Instead, do everything you can to avoid writing a paper laced with uncertainties. Study the facts and then trust yourself to declare your opinion in clear and definitive terms.
If  
natefit : 8/28/2014 7:37 pm : link
our starters struggle against Bill's subs we will NEVER hear the end of it on here...
NFL Preseason Live Sucks Balls  
Jim in Tampa : 8/28/2014 7:37 pm : link
Just one quarter of one game with NYG announcers, plus it stopped working in the 2nd Q last week.

Not renewing next year!
natefit  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 7:38 pm : link
We will if they put up 45 points on Detroit.

Do you remember last year's preseason finale? I don't.
Need to get more pressure  
Mike in NY : 8/28/2014 7:40 pm : link
against back-up OL
NEVER  
natefit : 8/28/2014 7:40 pm : link
meaning for the next few days. perhaps an overstatement then...
RE: Need to get more pressure  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:43 pm : link
In comment 11830075 Mike in NY said:
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against back-up OL
j

Agreed. Still no pressure with this front.
got through a defensive series  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 7:43 pm : link
without being penalized. That's something.
I've got Papa and Banks on my TV  
Canton : 8/28/2014 7:43 pm : link
.
Richburg block !!!!  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:45 pm : link
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No one open as per usual.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 7:45 pm : link
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Is this the Pats 2nd defense in?  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 7:46 pm : link
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Randle, holy shit.  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 7:46 pm : link
Fucking moron.
Randle lazy effort.......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:47 pm : link
Wtf is up with him?!
Randle...  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 7:47 pm : link
..dumb as bricks.
yes  
gmen1234 : 8/28/2014 7:47 pm : link
.
Randle needs  
rebel yell : 8/28/2014 7:47 pm : link
to pull his head out of his ass.
Same old crap with Randle  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 7:47 pm : link
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not to beat...  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 7:47 pm : link
..a dead horse but Randle is lost regardless of the scheme.

TIME TO CALL BILL COWHER  
Shockwave : 8/28/2014 7:48 pm : link
..
doesn't take me this preseason game to see that Randle  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 7:48 pm : link
has so much talent and not one idea how to use it.
Looked  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:48 pm : link
like Eli and Randle were not on the same page on that last play.
Have they ran any three wide receiver sets with the first team?  
gmen1234 : 8/28/2014 7:48 pm : link
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Run game looked fine.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 7:48 pm : link
Pass game still looks like diahrea.
That was Eli  
MotownGIANTS : 8/28/2014 7:48 pm : link
fault.
RE: TIME TO CALL BILL COWHER  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 7:49 pm : link
In comment 11830093 Shockwave said:
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..


No just no. Not another old fart.
RE: Have they ran any three wide receiver sets with the first team?  
CGiants07 : 8/28/2014 7:49 pm : link
In comment 11830096 gmen1234 said:
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started the game in 3 wides
Connor Orr  
Canton : 8/28/2014 7:49 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: The fact Manning had to move out of that pocket on a three-man rush isnt good.
Beckham can't get healthy  
Matt M. : 8/28/2014 7:50 pm : link
soon enough
Two  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:50 pm : link
poor throws by Eli.
Get Rolle and JPP  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 7:50 pm : link
out of there
Third and long  
rebel yell : 8/28/2014 7:50 pm : link
hammer him!
RE: RE: Have they ran any three wide receiver sets with the first team?  
gmen1234 : 8/28/2014 7:51 pm : link
In comment 11830101 CGiants07 said:
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In comment 11830096 gmen1234 said:


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I only saw Cruz and Randle. Who was the third?


started the game in 3 wides
Ah, Thurmond nearly had that  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 7:51 pm : link
Looked like it went right though this hands
Assuming Beason is back on Monday night  
Matt M. : 8/28/2014 7:51 pm : link
who is flanking him? Will they let Kennard start as a rookie, which he deserves?
RE: Two  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 7:51 pm : link
In comment 11830104 AcidTest said:
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poor throws by Eli.


One poor throw. Randle should've caught the first ball
Bullshit  
Anakim : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
Bullshit penalty
Wow what a ridiculous call  
Mike in NY : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
.
.  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
Will coughlin stick to the 15-18 snap plan??
RE: That was Eli  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
In comment 11830098 MotownGIANTS said:
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fault.


How do you know that? Chances are Eli knew the route.
That's a brutal call  
Bino5 : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
And a nice int by Bowman
no excuse for  
SBlue46 : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
Eli...cant make short throw w no pressure. ..
one threw too hard. .the other off target..
dont blame line or wr...mac screwing w
elis feet and throwing
RE: Two  
eli4life : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
In comment 11830104 AcidTest said:
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poor throws by Eli.


Um no two throws with the receiver not knowing what the hell he's doing
I pray this  
rebel yell : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
bullshit reffing ends after pre-season.
Weak fucking call  
Wuphat : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
Wow
If THAT gets called all year  
Canton : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
I'm done with football
Terrible flag  
ronzo : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
Hello
If thats a penalty  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 7:52 pm : link
no need to watch football this season
how was that  
newmike2 : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
a penalty?
Where  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
was the illegal contact?
They should call it illegal  
ChathamMark : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
TOUCHING. You touched him!
That's a penalty in the NFL now, fellas.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
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where is the penalty?  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
That was pure horseshit.
Fuck the NFL  
trueblueinpw : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
Is football still a contract sport?
what a BS penalty..  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:53 pm : link
Can't believe that was a penalty!!!!!
if thats a flag  
MookGiants : 8/28/2014 7:54 pm : link
in the regular season then it will ruin the game
No contact after 5 yards.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 7:54 pm : link
They literally mean you can not touch the WR past 5 yards. Seriously.
This can't be how they will be calling games.  
BlueHurricane : 8/28/2014 7:54 pm : link
I will stop watching. It is beyond ridiculous.
How in the hell  
halfback20 : 8/28/2014 7:55 pm : link
was that illegal contact?
RE: RE: That was Eli  
MotownGIANTS : 8/28/2014 7:55 pm : link
In comment 11830117 Simms11 said:
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In comment 11830098 MotownGIANTS said:


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fault.
Simple curl .... Eli and short passes .... Eli needs to get some touch on his short game


How do you know that? Chances are Eli knew the route.
Goddell  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:56 pm : link
has ruined football.
I wasnt a big fan of signing DRC to the deal he got  
robbieballs2003 : 8/28/2014 7:56 pm : link
But all preaseason he has looked like a man amongst boys. He looks like he is playing on such a different level than everybody else on the field.
I can only hope  
natefit : 8/28/2014 7:57 pm : link
they are "overcalling" plays ike that to make a point in the pre season
DRC  
halfback20 : 8/28/2014 7:57 pm : link
has been so good in the preseason. Seems like every time they've thrown at him he's been glued to the receiver.
that is utterly ridiculous.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:57 pm : link
Game is changing for the worse !!!!
Man he's worried about  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 7:58 pm : link
the rush. When he has time. Stop with that shit. You're not a rookie QB
Can't  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 7:58 pm : link
do without that analysis from Bob's Discount Furniture. WTF?!
Boy, I really hope this isn't Eli from here on out.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 7:58 pm : link
.
D better have a good year..  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 7:59 pm : link
...O not lookin good
Nothing to worry about  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 7:59 pm : link
Offense is just fine
This offense....  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 7:59 pm : link
This offensive line....

These tight ends.....
OMG!!!  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 7:59 pm : link
we're in trouble offensively if we can't get two yards in t he passing game!!!
I haven't worried about our offense until now.  
Canton : 8/28/2014 7:59 pm : link
Holy fuck
Third  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:00 pm : link
and two, and we throw a one yard pass. Remember when we did that with Beckum against the Eagles on a fourth down play?
Seattle really caused all this horseshit.  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 8/28/2014 8:00 pm : link
You can blame Peyton all you want for bitching, but Seattle got away with with shit all year long.
We do not have one TE who even be considered..  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:00 pm : link
...for a starting job on any other NFL team.
Anyone else get the sense that  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:00 pm : link
Connor chomps at the bit to say something negative about Eli?
Given that we are playing against backups  
Essex : 8/28/2014 8:00 pm : link
This is nauseating. You need no analysis other than 1s vs. 2s.
probably 30 TE's in the NFL...  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
..who could have converted that 1st
RE: Anyone else get the sense that  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
In comment 11830156 Andy in Boston said:
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Connor chomps at the bit to say something negative about Eli?


Considering he's not getting it done against 2's tonight, not really.
.  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Looks like JPP, Rolle, Stevie Brown, DRC, Jenkins, Hankins, Williams, McClain are done for the night. #NYG
RE: We do not have one TE who even be considered..  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
In comment 11830154 rocco8112 said:
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...for a starting job on any other NFL team.


We don't have one TE who would even be on another team.
RE: No contact after 5 yards.  
eli4life : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
In comment 11830135 Dave in Hoboken said:
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They literally mean you can not touch the WR past 5 yards. Seriously.


Watch it will be flag football within 5 years
when a qb has been pressured  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.
Connor and hynoski should both make this team.  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
Put them both in the backfield with Jennings and Williams. This is our only strength, so we should maximize it.
In  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:01 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: Second team defensive line- Moore, Bromley, Patterson, Ayers. LB Kennard, Paysinger, CB McBride, Jackson, Hosley. S Berhe Demps.
Giants offense looking great against 2nd teamers!  
baadbill : 8/28/2014 8:02 pm : link
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What the fuck  
blueblood'11 : 8/28/2014 8:02 pm : link
is this offense about. This is terrible. I want Gilbride back!!!!!!
our 3 4 and 5  
SBlue46 : 8/28/2014 8:02 pm : link
Wr's are playing w nassib...eli wont get
them till lions. ..no repore...
eli will be benched by 3rd game or we go
0....16
RE: our 3 4 and 5  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 8:04 pm : link
In comment 11830168 SBlue46 said:
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Wr's are playing w nassib...eli wont get
them till lions. ..no repore...
eli will be benched by 3rd game or we go
0....16


Were drafting a TE r1. Reese drafts out of failures and this is next on the list.
its going to be a very long and painful  
nygmen84 : 8/28/2014 8:04 pm : link
Season with this offense. Ugh.
O shut up  
CruzShip52 : 8/28/2014 8:04 pm : link
Eli isn't getting benched
There just is no basis  
natefit : 8/28/2014 8:05 pm : link
for concluding this team will be any better than 8-8 this season.
Bowman should have 2 picks right now.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:05 pm : link
Fucking pussy rules.
Offense  
blueblood'11 : 8/28/2014 8:05 pm : link
What offense!!!!
Nice play by Bowman  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:05 pm : link
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no pressure at all ......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:05 pm : link
Has our starting Dline had any sacks at all in pre-season?
Bowman  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:05 pm : link
Refs

Take Dat bitches

RE: when a qb has been pressured  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:06 pm : link
In comment 11830163 crick78 said:
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hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.


Very possible. Nice pressure and an excellent pick by Bowman.
no calling that one back, good work Bowman  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 8:06 pm : link
Kennard effective at MLB with the second teamers.
Ever since  
Dan in WNY : 8/28/2014 8:06 pm : link
mid 2012, this offense has fallen off a cliff. Complete nosedive.
kg  
SBlue46 : 8/28/2014 8:07 pm : link
Now I understand.....run run throw deep..on 3rd and 1..
he knew eli couldnt throw a short pass...nassib needs
to start
Its not the OL  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 8:07 pm : link
or McAdoo. Its Eli. Twice tonight he's had plenty of time and he's acted like a guy was about to sack him. If he doesn't play better than that, the team is in trouble.
Eli  
old man : 8/28/2014 8:07 pm : link
still in fear of his OL.
JR: Alex Boone, and as many OL cuts as possible; cut down to 2-3 LBs, 2 QB, 3 RB., and 1 vet WR.
Williams!  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:09 pm : link
!
Andre Williams!  
Mike in NY : 8/28/2014 8:09 pm : link
What a run
Williams is awesome.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:09 pm : link
One of the few guys on this team I like.
Randle  
Arcanum : 8/28/2014 8:10 pm : link
Can't run routes for shit. He will eventually get benched
@art_stapleton  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:10 pm : link
@art_stapleton: I think Henry Hynoski just won the fullback's job, if he hadn't already. Pancaked a Patriots defender. #NYG
RE: Its not the OL  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:10 pm : link
In comment 11830183 Rflairr said:
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or McAdoo. Its Eli. Twice tonight he's had plenty of time and he's acted like a guy was about to sack him. If he doesn't play better than that, the team is in trouble.


^^^^^^^^^^
Jerry  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:10 pm : link
Outstanding blocking
See how quick  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 8:10 pm : link
Nassib gets it out.
Hank the tank  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 8:10 pm : link
somebody just got flattened by Hynoski.
RE: when a qb has been pressured  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
In comment 11830163 crick78 said:
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hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.
statistically, he was the 17th most hit qb last year.Brady was hit more. Luck was it a lot more.
@TomRock_Newsday: John Jerry nice block on 4&1.  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
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Did Eli realy go 1 for 4 on the Pats 2nd & 3rd stringers??  
prdave73 : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
Yikes..
Lookslike Gaines  
Jay in Toronto : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
is making most of an opportunity
Tough  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
run by Williams. Good explosion once he got past the LOS. Nice block by Gaines.
Watched Jerry  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
3 plays in a row .....he looked dominating
Connor Hughes  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:11 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: Nice hot read from Nassib there to find Donnell for the first down. Felt blitz, released ball quick.
You would, too...  
Wuphat : 8/28/2014 8:12 pm : link
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Twice tonight he's had plenty of time and he's acted like a guy was about to sack him.


...if you spent the last year and a half and most of the pre-season having guys running through at you unblocked as often as Eli's seen.
nassib just looks so much more  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:12 pm : link
comfortable in this offense. Eli just does not look comfortable at all.
RE: Eli  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 8:12 pm : link
In comment 11830184 old man said:
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still in fear of his OL.
JR: Alex Boone, and as many OL cuts as possible; cut down to 2-3 LBs, 2 QB, 3 RB., and 1 vet WR.


JR has already changed the players for him. Hes got to get his own act together. What makes you think hes not going to act the same way with another new player?
Eli  
old man : 8/28/2014 8:13 pm : link
still in fear of his OL.
JR: Alex Boone, and as many OL cuts as possible; cut down to 2-3 LBs, 2 QB, 3 RB., and 1 vet WR.
eric  
SBlue46 : 8/28/2014 8:13 pm : link
I think you are right...nassib rules
Why wasn't Washington in?  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:14 pm : link
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that was on Donnell......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:14 pm : link
we're in trouble at TE. Can we trade for a decent TE?
RE: RE: when a qb has been pressured  
Servo : 8/28/2014 8:14 pm : link
In comment 11830194 HomerJones45 said:
Quote:
In comment 11830163 crick78 said:


Quote:


hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.

statistically, he was the 17th most hit qb last year.Brady was hit more. Luck was it a lot more.


Why listen to the people in the other thread who pointed out that your data point is meaningless unless you adjust it as a percentage of dropbacks when you can just keep being wrong?
Like it or not  
natefit : 8/28/2014 8:14 pm : link
If Elis is really struggling in the first few games there are going to be calls for Nassib.
Raanan  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:15 pm : link
@JordanRaanan: Touch passes are not Ryan Nassib's thing. Fastballs only. Definitely something he needs to improve. #giants
.  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 8:15 pm : link
Nassib.


If Eli struggles mightly it will be very interesting to see how it plays out for Nassib
homer i don't care about other qbs situations  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:16 pm : link
They are irrelevant to this situation. Just like 2011's OL is irrelevant to this situation.
Love how Connor is busting  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:16 pm : link
On Jerry for blocking against Pats number 2's........Jerry might be a "2"..... Who cares!?
Well  
blueblood'11 : 8/28/2014 8:16 pm : link
let's be honest. This defense is what will carry this team this year.
RE: Andre Williams! NFL preseason sucks  
yalebowl : 8/28/2014 8:17 pm : link
If I could of seen it! I guess I can blame my DSL speed. Only 1.5. I know when it's going freeze. The picture starts looking good. About every third play the stream freezes and I miss key plays.

I'll be glad when Sunday Ticket starts and I can get a dependable signal from directv until it snows or rains.

Suck suck suck!



What a run
Homer has never liked Eli  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:17 pm : link
for some reason.
RE: Raanan  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:18 pm : link
In comment 11830210 Canton said:
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@JordanRaanan: Touch passes are not Ryan Nassib's thing. Fastballs only. Definitely something he needs to improve. #giants


I wonder if Nassib rockets every pass because he's concerned that a throw with less velocity will be picked since the windows in the NFL are smaller than those he saw in college. If so, then time should cure that problem.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 8:18 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 33s

Meanwhile in Denver ... Brandon McManus just went wide right on a 52-yard field goal attempt.
Stats can lie  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:19 pm : link
Eli in for two possessions goes 1-4 with two punts. Nassib comes in, Giants go on a 8 play drive and get three.

You could easily say, "look nassib can do it". Well the whole drive was andre williams, combined with receiver drops, and bad timing that resulted in incompletions.
Stapleton  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:19 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Meanwhile in Dallas ... new Broncos kicker Brandon McManus just went wide right on a 52-yard field goal attempt.d
Moore might be done for the night  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:19 pm : link
Smart decision
RE: homer i don't care about other qbs situations  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:20 pm : link
In comment 11830214 crick78 said:
Quote:
They are irrelevant to this situation. Just like 2011's OL is irrelevant to this situation.
you made a statement that is not supported by the stats. Sorry.
There goes or 7th round pick  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:20 pm : link
Lol
RE: Stats can lie  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 8:21 pm : link
In comment 11830224 crick78 said:
Quote:
Eli in for two possessions goes 1-4 with two punts. Nassib comes in, Giants go on a 8 play drive and get three.

You could easily say, "look nassib can do it". Well the whole drive was andre williams, combined with receiver drops, and bad timing that resulted in incompletions.



Coughlin's loyalty will absolutely be tested.

I only hope that if it comes to it that Jerry or Mara will step in and make it an issue that they control
RE: Homer has never liked Eli  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:21 pm : link
In comment 11830218 crick78 said:
Quote:
for some reason.
nonsense. Facts are stubborn things. Even Eli can't stop the calendar.
Manningham done  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:22 pm : link
@JordanRaanan: Mario Manningham's 1% chance of making #giants just went to 0%. He's out with a calf injury.Do
I guess they don't call hand checks by the receivers  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
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wtf was that?!  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
....McBride looked like crap there?!
Beason  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: Per @KimJonesSports, Jon Beason will come off the PUP list as the Giants trim roster to 53.
This is what I have seen so far, Eli was bad in 2012, abysmal in 2013  
redthumper32 : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
and so far it appears the slide is continuing. The offense can't convert 3rd down and the defense can't get off the field on 3rd down. I am not sure if there is a "switch" that can be thrown when the season starts, if there is the Jints are going to have to put it in the on position.
Kimberling Jones on Beason  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:24 pm : link
D@KimJonesSports: More Beason: He finally found proper orthotics/shoes to protect toe. Says he's "confident I'll contribute" on Sept. 8. NYG confident in him.
Homer  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:24 pm : link
i'm sorry you didn't watch any of the giants games last year or this year to see the situation Manning is in. Your blindness is staggering.
....  
yankees78 : 8/28/2014 8:24 pm : link
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@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.


Christ.

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart
homer  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
there are your 'stats' lol
Anyone who's not concerned by Manning's performance  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
the last year or so is deluding themselves.
RE: I guess they don't call hand checks by the receivers  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
In comment 11830241 jeff57 said:
Quote:
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Agreed. How was that not illegal contact, if what Bowman did was? McBride basically fell down.
RE: RE: RE: when a qb has been pressured  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
In comment 11830208 Servo said:
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In comment 11830194 HomerJones45 said:


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In comment 11830163 crick78 said:


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hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.

statistically, he was the 17th most hit qb last year.Brady was hit more. Luck was it a lot more.



Why listen to the people in the other thread who pointed out that your data point is meaningless unless you adjust it as a percentage of dropbacks when you can just keep being wrong?
you don't want to do that as it makes Manning look even worse
RE: ....  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
In comment 11830248 yankees78 said:
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Quote:


@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.





Christ.

How dare Eli not be able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds! Scrub!

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart
this Patriots broadcast crew is terrible  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
the play by play is slobbering all over this QB, they never showed the Giants lineups, the sideline guy can't get 5 words in with the audio cutting out, and for reasons unknown they have gone multiple times to a "studio" for pedestrian analysis that amounts to a big commercial for Bobs Discount Furniture. Gah.
RE: RE: RE: RE: when a qb has been pressured  
Servo : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
In comment 11830254 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 11830208 Servo said:


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In comment 11830194 HomerJones45 said:


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In comment 11830163 crick78 said:


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hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.

statistically, he was the 17th most hit qb last year.Brady was hit more. Luck was it a lot more.



Why listen to the people in the other thread who pointed out that your data point is meaningless unless you adjust it as a percentage of dropbacks when you can just keep being wrong?

you don't want to do that as it makes Manning look even worse


Um, no it certainly doesn't.
God, the quote feature here is awful.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
In response to Eli not being able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds, how dare he!
Eli...  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:28 pm : link
... seems to have misfired on the pass to Cruz.

Randle was the LVP. He dropped an easy one on a first down throw. Eli hit him on the run. Looked to me like Eli thought no one was open so he rolled out right.

Randle had the brain fart on a third down throw. I guess we have no way of knowing who messed up but who is your money on?

Also, are there really posters on this site who think Nassib would do better this year than Eli? That seems ridiculous to me.

In OL  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:28 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Dallas Reynolds in for J.D. Walton at center. Richburg + Jerry still at guard. #NYG
Manning had time tonight  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
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Almost Everyone on this thread is insane  
djm : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
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Wow a play by a TE......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
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RE: ....  
Riggies : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
In comment 11830248 yankees78 said:
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Quote:


@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.



Christ.

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart

But he should be trusting them. He has time every throw. Don't they read BBI GTs?
You see the potential in the offense  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 8:30 pm : link
when Nassib is in there. mcAdoo does some creative things
RE: Homer  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:30 pm : link
In comment 11830247 crick78 said:
Quote:
i'm sorry you didn't watch any of the giants games last year or this year to see the situation Manning is in. Your blindness is staggering.
your watching a qb that ranked 31st or so in the league last year and your making excuses for him. Just who is blind?
RE: RE: ....  
eli4life : 8/28/2014 8:30 pm : link
In comment 11830256 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 11830248 yankees78 said:


Quote:




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@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.





Christ.

How dare Eli not be able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds! Scrub!

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart



Hey maybe that's most of the problem that plus wr's that run routes like half the post on this message board.

...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 8s

Full house backfield for the Giants: both John Conner and Henry Hynoski in at the same time. #NYG
O line was blowing up..  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
. The pats 2's. We can ground it this year ask Eli to pull a Russell Wilson and just hit a handful of meaningful throws a game. We know Eli is the king of winning it late.

If we try to air it out 35 plus a game this year we are screwed.
Nice running by Hillis  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
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This  
Brian T : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
Is going to be one disappointing season

Rushing attack  
Boris : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
Is impressive. Should open the passing game if our receivers learn how to catch.
Can we be keeping both fullbacks?  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Full house backfield for the Giants: both John Conner and Henry Hynoski in at the same time. #NYG
I  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
know it's against second teamers, but Jerry and Gaines have looked very good.
Graziano  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:32 pm : link
@DanGrazianoESPN: Both fullbacks in for Giants on that last play, which is new.
Jerry  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:32 pm : link
Is moving people tonight
RE: Graziano  
SGMen : 8/28/2014 8:33 pm : link
In comment 11830281 Canton said:
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@DanGrazianoESPN: Both fullbacks in for Giants on that last play, which is new.
Interesting if for some crazy reason we kept two full-backs. I would love to see Connor traded for a #7 next year, conditional or not, just so we get something for him. He is good.
Terrible no call there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:34 pm : link
Guy didn't even turn around to play the ball, and the ref was right there. Ref is retarded.
That was definitely DPI  
Mike in NY : 8/28/2014 8:34 pm : link
of course no call
I like that  
AnishPatel : 8/28/2014 8:34 pm : link
shallow cross we ran with JJ. That's the type of shit I envisioned with him and even when we had Sinorice Moss.
What a joke  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 8/28/2014 8:34 pm : link
!
How the fuck is that not  
Wuphat : 8/28/2014 8:35 pm : link
DPI?
How the hell  
rebel yell : 8/28/2014 8:35 pm : link
was that not PI?
wtf are with these refs?  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:35 pm : link
how was that not called with the ref right there, as well?!
Refs  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:35 pm : link
S in preseason form.
Yet they call that BS penalty on Bowman before.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:35 pm : link
Hahaha.
wow.  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 8:35 pm : link
These refs suck.
So they call the pinky touch on us  
ChathamMark : 8/28/2014 8:36 pm : link
but not the NE guy not looking for the ball? Help me here...
That  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:36 pm : link
was not PI, but what Bowman did was illegal contact?
I'm gonna laugh my ass off  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 8:36 pm : link
if Eli throws 4 TDs on opening night.
Are these back up refs?  
Tittle 9 20 64 : 8/28/2014 8:37 pm : link
.
Pop warner  
MotownGIANTS : 8/28/2014 8:37 pm : link
refs
Our running  
AnishPatel : 8/28/2014 8:38 pm : link
game is impressive tonight. These guys can at least do that now.
Those 2 officials  
batman11 : 8/28/2014 8:38 pm : link
should be fired immediately. If they don't think that is PI then they have no idea what they are looking at.
Home  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:39 pm : link
Look in my opinion Eli is still a qb can get it done, the OL has been a problem going on three years now. To me if you want your qb to be efficient you have to protect him. If you don't feel that way, fine. I'm done trying to justify my position to you. I think my position is fair, and realistic.
nassib bootleg......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:39 pm : link
would have looked nice.
Fuck NFL football  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 8:40 pm : link
if this is the offciating we are going to get.
I'm actually concerned about Eli  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 8:41 pm : link
He isn't on the same page as his receivers. I suppose that shit pass blocking has something to do with it.

I hate to admit it but Nassib looked the best of the 3 QBs this pre-season. Not good.

RE: Home  
eli4life : 8/28/2014 8:42 pm : link
In comment 11830302 crick78 said:
Quote:
Look in my opinion Eli is still a qb can get it done, the OL has been a problem going on three years now. To me if you want your qb to be efficient you have to protect him. If you don't feel that way, fine. I'm done trying to justify my position to you. I think my position is fair, and realistic.


How dare you use logic on this website
I was going to ask  
old man : 8/28/2014 8:43 pm : link
you guys if PI rules changed. Got my answer.
Prediction  
yalebowl : 8/28/2014 8:44 pm : link
Keep

3 RBs (meaning Hillis stays)
2 FBs
2 TEs. (Fells and Robinson)

Way out on a limb here
Been watching Hillis  
River Mike : 8/28/2014 8:44 pm : link
because some posters here said he was worthless dogshit (or some words to that effect). I thought I must have missed something when I thought he was pretty good last year taken off the street and thrown into the game. Funny, he still looks pretty good. Not a number 1 back, but not bad as the number 3 guy. Its almost as if those posters might have been wrong.
Is  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:44 pm : link
it Eli, or is it the OL?

It's both. But I think we'll know by Halloween which is the bigger problem. Eli had an impressive drive at the end of the first half against the Jets. He had time to throw, and made plays. But he has missed receivers, thrown some bad INTs, and looks nervous and rattled in the pocket at times.
This is a big game  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:45 pm : link
For Hosley
Eli Manning's best days  
Brian T : 8/28/2014 8:45 pm : link
Are behind him...

Well aware it's pre-season....but this trend has been happening since 2012
donnel  
SBlue46 : 8/28/2014 8:45 pm : link
Sucks...great te coaching...we will miss Pope
Hosley beaten  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:45 pm : link
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OMG Hosley again!  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:45 pm : link
He absolutely sucks!
Hosley just got  
rebel yell : 8/28/2014 8:45 pm : link
shit on there.
Hosley  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:46 pm : link
beaten again.
RE: I'm actually concerned about Eli  
natefit : 8/28/2014 8:46 pm : link
In comment 11830306 mrvax said:
Quote:
He isn't on the same page as his receivers. I suppose that shit pass blocking has something to do with it.

I hate to admit it but Nassib looked the best of the 3 QBs this pre-season. Not good.


Not for one moment am I suggesting Nassib start but there is no disputing the above.
Hosley sure is consistent  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 8:46 pm : link
consistently awful that is.
Hosley  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 8:47 pm : link
makes me laugh. He's like Jeremy Lincoln.
Nassib looks more comfortable with, and fits the west coast, better  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:48 pm : link
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RE: Eli Manning's best days  
AnishPatel : 8/28/2014 8:48 pm : link
In comment 11830320 Brian T said:
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Are behind him...

Well aware it's pre-season....but this trend has been happening since 2012


Yeah the same time our offensive talent was declining. Funny how that works. Our offense kept sucking and age, declining talent, injuries, and missed draft picks all led to this mess we are all watching.
RE: RE: I'm actually concerned about Eli  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 8:48 pm : link
In comment 11830327 natefit said:
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In comment 11830306 mrvax said:


Quote:


He isn't on the same page as his receivers. I suppose that shit pass blocking has something to do with it.

I hate to admit it but Nassib looked the best of the 3 QBs this pre-season. Not good.




Not for one moment am I suggesting Nassib start but there is no disputing the above.


Yeah Nate, I'm not suggesting that either but I am concerned.
It's almost  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:49 pm : link
Like hoseley gives up when he senses he's beaten on the play
I thought the pick play  
Mike in NY : 8/28/2014 8:49 pm : link
was made illegal
Pick should have been called  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:50 pm : link
.
Jeremey Lincoln  
MaineGiantFan : 8/28/2014 8:50 pm : link
A name I could do without ever hearing again
I dont know what it means long term  
LG in NYC : 8/28/2014 8:50 pm : link
But both QBs played against essentially the same defense - although eli played with the starting O- and Nassib looked considably better.

This could be an interesting season in ways we did not expect.
these refs suck bad....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:50 pm : link
how do you miss egregious penalties like that?
Ok, so apparently  
Wuphat : 8/28/2014 8:50 pm : link
all the things that used to be penalties are not legal
RE: Been watching Hillis  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:50 pm : link
In comment 11830317 River Mike said:
Quote:
because some posters here said he was worthless dogshit (or some words to that effect). I thought I must have missed something when I thought he was pretty good last year taken off the street and thrown into the game. Funny, he still looks pretty good. Not a number 1 back, but not bad as the number 3 guy. Its almost as if those posters might have been wrong.


Yup, I like Hills too. Short yardage downhill back. A throwback running back. He brings stuff to the table.

Has hands too.
rocco8112  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 8:52 pm : link
I like backs who bring stuff to the table. :)
*now  
Wuphat : 8/28/2014 8:52 pm : link
...
Hillis  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 8:53 pm : link
claimed to be in the best shape of his life. He looks solid out there.
Ayers  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:54 pm : link
Has been around the QB alot this preseason .....no sacks though
Nassib aside  
natefit : 8/28/2014 8:57 pm : link
I just wonder if Eli and the WCO is a match made in heaven...
RE: RE: Eli Manning's best days  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:58 pm : link
In comment 11830331 AnishPatel said:
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In comment 11830320 Brian T said:


Quote:


Are behind him...

Well aware it's pre-season....but this trend has been happening since 2012



Yeah the same time our offensive talent was declining. Funny how that works. Our offense kept sucking and age, declining talent, injuries, and missed draft picks all led to this mess we are all watching.
you insisted all we needed was a new offense. Have you changed your mind?
Giants should keep both FB's and 2 TE. its the stronger suit  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 9:00 pm : link
and go with power running game. Eli will need a power running game this year to stabilize him in the offense.

I am really worried about Eli, He no longer has eye of the tiger but looks too cautious and slow.
Some  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:01 pm : link
thoughts:

Jerry and Gaines were excellent. Can't see how they cut Gaines. He's clearly better than Brewer and Brown. The debate is only whether to keep one of the latter two.

Williams and Hillis with some hard running.

Nassib has looked good.

Decent pressure. Just missed out on a few sacks.

A TE caught a pass.

Let the great Eli/OL debate continue.
RE: Some  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:03 pm : link
In comment 11830357 AcidTest said:
Quote:
thoughts:

Jerry and Gaines were excellent. Can't see how they cut Gaines. He's clearly better than Brewer and Brown. The debate is only whether to keep one of the latter two.

Williams and Hillis with some hard running.

Nassib has looked good.

Decent pressure. Just missed out on a few sacks.

A TE caught a pass.

Let the great Eli/OL debate continue.


Don't forget about Jennings. He ran real well too.
Yeah, Gaines has looked good  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 9:06 pm : link
.
Our running backs  
Sandman96R : 8/28/2014 9:07 pm : link
will do just fine this year. Our O-line is more suited to the running game verse the passing game. Besides, Eli looks lost out there. Ball control and making sure Eli doesn't kill us with his horrible decision making and/or interceptions. Have to play to our strengths and that is running and keeping the ball out of Eli's hands.
Not good  
BBurns : 8/28/2014 9:08 pm : link
Eli looks worried .
decent run game . were they trying to prove a point
running Hillis had play action written all over it ,
Hillis is a gamer .
Where is the pass rush gonna come from ..?
Don't think  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 9:08 pm : link
Gaines played LT did he? If u cut brewer and brown who is the backup LT?
can Eli and his WRs  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:08 pm : link
turn it on in Detroit?! Will be interesting to see, however, he may be running for his life with our oline going up against the Detroit Dline. Their Dline might be one of the top 5 in the league.

How will McAdoo play it?
Reffs are a Joke//  
BBurns : 8/28/2014 9:10 pm : link
The Kick off is pointless
thanks Goodwill .
RE: can Eli and his WRs  
SGMen : 8/28/2014 9:12 pm : link
In comment 11830372 Simms11 said:
Quote:
turn it on in Detroit?! Will be interesting to see, however, he may be running for his life with our oline going up against the Detroit Dline. Their Dline might be one of the top 5 in the league.

How will McAdoo play it?
Opening day we play safe, keep away football and take what the defense gives us. Run, Run, short throw and hope player can get the 1st down and keep the ball away from Detroit. That is how I see opening day.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 9:12 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 54s

Richburg and Jerry still in there at LG and RG to start the second half. #NYG
..  
ilikethenygiants : 8/28/2014 9:12 pm : link
It's interesting that Washington just does not get into games until the 4th...
Curtis Painter holding clipboard and writing left handed again  
baadbill : 8/28/2014 9:13 pm : link
... wft is that all about?
Don't think  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 9:13 pm : link
Gaines played LT did he? If u cut brewer and brown who is the backup LT?
Asper  
Jay in Toronto : 8/28/2014 9:14 pm : link
not impressive
Garrapolo has looked good tonight.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:14 pm : link
He's got nice touch and can feel the pressure and know where to go.
RE: Don't think  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 9:15 pm : link
In comment 11830386 Andy in Boston said:
Quote:
Gaines played LT did he? If u cut brewer and brown who is the backup LT?

The backup left tackle is the starting right tackle. We're a bit thin.
Garafolo - Johnny doing " Johnny things  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:16 pm : link
.
Manziel - ( New Window )
Hynoski out with a sprained shulder  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 9:17 pm : link
See ya Henry
Hynoski  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/28/2014 9:17 pm : link
shoulder injury. Fingers crossed that it is not serious.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 9:17 pm : link
Patricia Traina ‏@Patricia_Traina 51s

No word if that's the same shoulder he fractured last year. Also no indication how serious it is.
@TomRock_Newsday: Henry Hynoski out with a sprained shoulder.  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:17 pm : link
welcome to the team Connor
goodbye preston parker  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 9:18 pm : link
tough luck
Bromley  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:18 pm : link
with the nice pressure.
Jackson with a couple of nice plays  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 9:18 pm : link
.
and now Parker is down  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 9:18 pm : link
grabbed at the back of left hamstring
Bromley continues to impress.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:18 pm : link
maybe Reese finally hit on a few players.
Parker hurt himself  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 9:19 pm : link
if he's out, who returns punts next week?
Fauria on the NE broadcast  
Killed the K-Gun : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
Said that Garoppolo (sp?) looked like a rookie, but he looked farther along than Nassib last year.

Nothing telling of that, just my latest point of reference for mid-round QBs.
Bad  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
news for Hynoski and maybe Parker. Can't get through a game without a serious injury or two.
RE: and now Parker is down  
mattlawson : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
In comment 11830401 WeatherMan said:
Quote:
grabbed at the back of left hamstring


did we really need to see more from him at this point? GOD FUCKING DAMNIT
Weatherman  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
Exactly
I feel bad for Hynoski, but that guy just can't stay healthy.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
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LMAO  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
the injury train continues....
.  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: Corey Washingotn in the game along with Larry Donnell and Adrien Robinson. Painter, too.
RE: Parker hurt himself  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:20 pm : link
In comment 11830403 PetesHereNow said:
Quote:
if he's out, who returns punts next week?


Randle or Jernigan.
parker back in there  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 9:21 pm : link
thank god he is ok
Hynoski  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:21 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Henry Hynoski is on sideline. Nothing visible to show whether his shoulder injury is left or right. No ice pack. No sling. Nothing. #NYG
Ugh..  
MaineGiantFan : 8/28/2014 9:22 pm : link
Damn injuries...
RE: RE: and now Parker is down  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/28/2014 9:22 pm : link
In comment 11830407 mattlawson said:
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In comment 11830401 WeatherMan said:


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grabbed at the back of left hamstring



did we really need to see more from him at this point? GOD FUCKING DAMNIT


Preston Parker is the 5th WR. Who exactly is playing in this mandatory game if everybody should be wrapped in bubble wrap and safety tape?
Heaven forbid the Giants recover a fumble.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 9:22 pm : link
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Parker back in the game  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 9:22 pm : link
alright, that's good. Asper stinks.
nassib had washington wide open over the middle  
mattlawson : 8/28/2014 9:22 pm : link
theres a play that gets completed in the reg season i have to believe. looking downfield for the big play
Dislike both options  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 9:22 pm : link
Randle isn't electric, and Jernigan's a fumbler.
And in another part of the country.....  
nicky43 : 8/28/2014 9:24 pm : link
The Cowboys still have no Defense!
that possession was horrible  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 9:24 pm : link
bad blocking all around. this team has a lot of problems
Hynoski  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:24 pm : link
@Patricia_Traina: Hyno kooks like he has something on hat left shoulder. That's the one he injured last year. Good news though is he isn't in a sling.
No surprise, but we're really thin on the OL.  
yatqb : 8/28/2014 9:25 pm : link
Hard to imagine before the preseason, but Brewer and Reynolds may both make the team.
I think Jerry's earned himself a spot  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 9:29 pm : link
OL is Pugh, Richburg, Walton, Mosley, Beatty, Jerry, Schwartz, Reynolds, Gaines.. IMO

Backup LT is probably Pugh, in Coughlin's mind.
Nice 3-and-out ....  
Mike in Raleigh : 8/28/2014 9:33 pm : link
display here in 2nd half! /sarcasm
I really like this team DTs  
Mason : 8/28/2014 9:33 pm : link
Quarles has improved has been flashing and Bromley is now commanding doubles along with Hankins. Just a few years ago this was a troubled spot and now there are a lot of young talented guys.
Three  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:33 pm : link
three and outs.

Pretty soon fans will be so upset . . . they'll demand that Eli return.
Ben McAdoo's offense  
Marty866b : 8/28/2014 9:35 pm : link
It's only the preseason but it has been disgusting.
That is why  
nygnyy274 : 8/28/2014 9:35 pm : link
Connor should be the starting fullback.Hynoski is always hurt
Pete, you may have it right.  
yatqb : 8/28/2014 9:37 pm : link
Jerry has looked better this week than at any other point in the preseason, so that's good. But we really can't handle any more injuries on the OL.

Does Schwartz go on short term IR?
Hosley's gotta be toast.  
yatqb : 8/28/2014 9:39 pm : link
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3rd and 4th string D sucks and  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:40 pm : link
Of course Hosley blows more coverage.
...  
yankees78 : 8/28/2014 9:40 pm : link
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Three
AcidTest : 9:33 pm : link : reply
three and outs.

Pretty soon fans will be so upset . . . they'll demand that Eli return.


OK..I laughed. =)
this entire offense looks horrible..  
prdave73 : 8/28/2014 9:40 pm : link
Plai. And simple.. This is really concerning. pats have a new and learning the system and he looks way more comfortable then all 3 of our qb's Put together.. Smh something is not right with this offense.
RE: Pete, you may have it right.  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 9:41 pm : link
In comment 11830440 yatqb said:
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Jerry has looked better this week than at any other point in the preseason, so that's good. But we really can't handle any more injuries on the OL.

Does Schwartz go on short term IR?


Doubtful as he should be able to come back prior to week 8.
new QB,  
prdave73 : 8/28/2014 9:42 pm : link
Sorry typing from my phone..
I like this Wynn kid  
BlueHurricane : 8/28/2014 9:42 pm : link
Any shot he sticks? If not hopefully he will make it to the PS.
Agreed, Pete.  
yatqb : 8/28/2014 9:43 pm : link
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RE: I like this Wynn kid  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:45 pm : link
In comment 11830452 BlueHurricane said:
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Any shot he sticks? If not hopefully he will make it to the PS.


If we put Wynn n PS, it's likely Dallas picks him up!
RE: That is why  
Bill L : 8/28/2014 9:45 pm : link
In comment 11830438 nygnyy274 said:
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Connor should be the starting fullback.Hynoski is always hurt


Why wasn't Connor playing the last couple weeks?
John MFing Jerry  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 9:47 pm : link
is in the building!
Jerry  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 9:47 pm : link
Just completely destroyed someone
Gorgeous  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:48 pm : link
throw by Nassib.
Donnell with a couple of nice catches  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 9:49 pm : link
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Beason  
Servo : 8/28/2014 9:50 pm : link
to come of the PUP list when the roster is cut to 53 (As expected) according to WFAN.
LOLRobinson.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 9:50 pm : link
Good fucking bye.
Parker should have gotten up for that ball  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:50 pm : link
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OMG the refs missed that call too?!  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:50 pm : link
....
Robinsuck  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 9:50 pm : link
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LOL Adrien.  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 9:51 pm : link
The Jayron Hosley of tight ends.
Cut his ass  
BlueHurricane : 8/28/2014 9:51 pm : link
He fucking sucks. The JPP of TE's better be toast.
Fuck you  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 9:51 pm : link
Robinson
Well  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:51 pm : link
at least he caught the ball.

SO STOP COMPLAINING BBI.
Well pretty clear that Fells and Donnell are the top 2 TEs  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 9:52 pm : link
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JPP of tight ends  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 9:52 pm : link
May soon be a FA
nassib has looked fairly decent again......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:52 pm : link
Robinson not helping himself there though!
HE GONE  
nygiants1114 : 8/28/2014 9:52 pm : link
LOL
Another nice toss by Nassib though.  
bceagle05 : 8/28/2014 9:52 pm : link
He definitely has a lot of promise, third stringers or no.
RE: RE: I like this Wynn kid  
BlueHurricane : 8/28/2014 9:52 pm : link
In comment 11830457 Simms11 said:
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In comment 11830452 BlueHurricane said:


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Any shot he sticks? If not hopefully he will make it to the PS.



If we put Wynn n PS, it's likely Dallas picks him up!


I think he has a legit shot of sticking.
Robinson/Holsey have reached the end of the line  
Giants11 : 8/28/2014 9:53 pm : link
some how those 2 clowns hung around long enough to get a pension
Good luck Robinson  
ImaGiant86 : 8/28/2014 9:53 pm : link
That fumble was the nail in the coffin.
Is Herzlich hurt?  
rdt288 : 8/28/2014 9:53 pm : link
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How was the play nbefore the fumble not pass interference?  
Blue21 : 8/28/2014 9:53 pm : link
Again the Patriot defendr never turned around and hit the reciver before the ball gotthere. I don't unerstand this game anymore.
Corey Washington will be wearing Adrien Robinson number 81  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 9:53 pm : link
before midnight
rdt288  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 9:54 pm : link
yes, he was a late scratch from the game.
JPP of TE's.  
Blue21 : 8/28/2014 9:54 pm : link
OK.
I hope  
PhilD : 8/28/2014 9:54 pm : link
this anti Giant officials change in the regular season
I like Jerry more than Mosely  
PatersonPlank : 8/28/2014 9:55 pm : link
Beatty-Richburg-Walton-Jerry-Pugh is a much better line then we had last year.
I wouldn't  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 9:56 pm : link
jump on the John Jerry bandwagon just yet. He's been playing 2nd, 3rd, 4th teamers in the game. In other preseason games, he was messing up against backups.
Fielding  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 9:56 pm : link
punts for this team is like asking someone to square the circle. Yikes.
I see the fucking Pats can do whatever they want and get away with it  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 9:56 pm : link
how charming.
Not ideal to see the possible punt returner  
Bino5 : 8/28/2014 9:57 pm : link
Against Detroit have a muff
How Tom Quinn  
nygiants1114 : 8/28/2014 9:58 pm : link
continues to keep his job season after season, is ridiculous.
Eric  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 9:58 pm : link
Agrreed on Jerry, but he's made some serious progress .... And technically he's a "2" himself.
Jerry  
Marty866b : 8/28/2014 9:58 pm : link
Is a mediocre NFL player. he was an underachiever with the Dolphins. The thing is that mediocre is good enough for this team.
Reffs still suck  
BBurns : 8/28/2014 9:58 pm : link
whats with face guarding in the end zone twice now
hey if you get beat just tackle him .
Hosely just fell off a cliff sincee his rookie
season Robinson should just jump off one ..
Getting alot of reps  
Canton : 8/28/2014 9:58 pm : link
@ebenezersamuel: Jerry and Richburg are still playing here in the fourth Q.
John Jerry just killed 2 guys  
BlueHurricane : 8/28/2014 9:58 pm : link
Holy shit
Robinson and Gaines with good blocks there.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 9:59 pm : link
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If we keep Jerry  
jtb nyg : 8/28/2014 9:59 pm : link
On the field all game, he'll have zero time to bully teammates.
Andy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 9:59 pm : link
technically, he was a starter for two years in Miami.
That  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:00 pm : link
was ridiculous by Jerry. Took out, no demolished, two players.
Yeah, John Jerry just wrecked two guys  
Mister O : 8/28/2014 10:00 pm : link
that was impressive. And awesome.
Another nice catch by Donnell  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 10:00 pm : link
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At least I know that Jerry has a few years as a starter under his belt  
PatersonPlank : 8/28/2014 10:01 pm : link
Hopefully the rust is coming off and he can perform back to that level, which is something Mosley has never done.
Eric  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 10:01 pm : link
I get it......just saying, this whole "1's" against "2"'s gets a little overrated in my opinion.
RE: Another nice catch by Donnell  
SGMen : 8/28/2014 10:02 pm : link
In comment 11830516 jeff57 said:
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I think it will be Fells, Donnell and Robinson opening day. Davis will be told to hang around.

I know Robinson fumbled but he is still a raw player with upside and I'm not sure they'll give up on him.
John Jerry  
Canton : 8/28/2014 10:02 pm : link
@ebenezersamuel: Hunch here on John Jerry: This game is as much about today as tomorrow. He's proven he can play. How does knee recover 24 hours after?
Andy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 10:03 pm : link
we'll agree to disagree that #1s vs #2s isn't a big issue.
we'll pick up  
Paulie Walnuts : 8/28/2014 10:03 pm : link
a vet T and TE before detroit
Bad  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:04 pm : link
whiff by Gaskins.

What a collision on the next play.
I'd rather the Giants keep gaskins as extra RB/TE then keep  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 10:05 pm : link
robinson
i think Herman has done some nice things too.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:05 pm : link
he's definitely looked better this year, unfortunately he won't be available for 4 games either.
RE: RE: Another nice catch by Donnell  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:06 pm : link
In comment 11830519 SGMen said:
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In comment 11830516 jeff57 said:


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I think it will be Fells, Donnell and Robinson opening day. Davis will be told to hang around.

I know Robinson fumbled but he is still a raw player with upside and I'm not sure they'll give up on him.


Probably true.
Time for the Corey Washington show  
Canton : 8/28/2014 10:06 pm : link
In the fourth quarter
Eric  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 10:06 pm : link
In my opinion in some cases it obviously is... My point is if an olineman wrecks a 250 pound linebacker - I don't care about the "1's" vs "2's" thing .....most of these guys are the same size etc. know what I mean?
I don't think that was Gaskins' fault  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 10:06 pm : link
Herman went to double team the nose guard letting his man go free.
Boy  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 10:08 pm : link
the NYG sportswriters love to complain about covering the Giants.
no pressure again....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:09 pm : link
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much better pressure that time....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:11 pm : link
if only we can get the starters to do that!
That was amazing  
bignygfan : 8/28/2014 10:11 pm : link
Wow
Nice  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:11 pm : link
play by Idonije.
IMO  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 10:11 pm : link
Hosley will be a cut.
Hosley screws up punt  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 10:11 pm : link
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that was a great bull rush was that bromley?  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 10:12 pm : link
?
Idonije  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 10:12 pm : link
just beat Josh Kline...a potential starter for NE
Hosley even stinks at catching the ball  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 10:12 pm : link
our PR position is a fucking mess.
Punt returner is going to be a problem  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 10:12 pm : link
if these guys can't catch the ball. OBJ, please get healthy.
Hosley  
Marty866b : 8/28/2014 10:13 pm : link
Another fine 3rd round pick by Jerry Reese.
opening the door for holiday  
larryflower37 : 8/28/2014 10:13 pm : link
Or a waiver pick up.
RE: that was a great bull rush was that bromley?  
ImaGiant86 : 8/28/2014 10:14 pm : link
In comment 11830547 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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Idonije
Tough  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:15 pm : link
running by Cox. Nice explosion.

As far as PR, it will be RR and his endless fair catches.
nice throw.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:15 pm : link
Terrible drop by Talley.
catch the damn ball  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 10:15 pm : link
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it was knocked away, IMO  
PetesHereNow : 8/28/2014 10:17 pm : link
not Talley's fault.
.  
SoZKillA : 8/28/2014 10:18 pm : link
Hosley... Boy oh boy
hosley  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:18 pm : link
Another 4th round failure!!!
the throw was late  
larryflower37 : 8/28/2014 10:19 pm : link
On the Talley play.
Gave the db time to catch up.
Hosley  
MaineGiantFan : 8/28/2014 10:19 pm : link
Omg....
Hosley  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 10:20 pm : link
will have plenty of time to light up soon.
They need to  
odunde : 8/28/2014 10:21 pm : link
Throw a fade!
Hosley  
Carl in CT : 8/28/2014 10:21 pm : link
Another JR high pick (3rd) which will be gone very shortly!
Its lookin like Brown for the game winner.....  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:22 pm : link
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With our track record  
Carl in CT : 8/28/2014 10:23 pm : link
With Draft picks (and since we have CAP room) I think it's time to offer a 3rd for Boone. And maybe a 3rd and 5th.
Looks  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:23 pm : link
like Herman got hurt just before the two minute warning in the last preseason game. Fantastic. Well, at least he's got five weeks to heal.

Please tell me there's no overtime.
regarding Hosley  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 10:23 pm : link
he probably won't get cut...because they don't "need" to. He'll be on the suspended list for the 1st 4 games..right?
what does boone salary  
larryflower37 : 8/28/2014 10:24 pm : link
Look like? Can we sign him long term?
Throw it to Washington just to keep his streak going  
PatersonPlank : 8/28/2014 10:25 pm : link
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RE: regarding Hosley  
odunde : 8/28/2014 10:26 pm : link
In comment 11830574 Andy in Boston said:
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he probably won't get cut...because they don't "need" to. He'll be on the suspended list for the 1st 4 games..right?


Probably? Though we might prefer a street fa if someone gets hurt
got to cut him  
Paulie Walnuts : 8/28/2014 10:28 pm : link
i liked him, but he stinks
Would Giants keep both Wynn and Idonije?  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 10:30 pm : link
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Giants win  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/28/2014 10:30 pm : link
Undefeated. If only these games counted.
RE: Giants win  
Jints in Carolina : 8/28/2014 10:30 pm : link
In comment 11830589 Steve in South Jersey said:
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Undefeated. If only these games counted.


this could be the last win for awhile.
5-0  
mrvax : 8/28/2014 10:31 pm : link
and yet the starting offense is offensive.
Shows that other teams are struggling also.
I can't remember if giants ever were 5-0 in preseason  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 8/28/2014 10:31 pm : link
anyone?
Another  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 10:31 pm : link
nice play by Idonije. Why was Moore on the field at the end?
Idonoje may have made the team with that second half  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 10:32 pm : link
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They Went 6-0 In The Early/Mid 1970s  
Trainmaster : 8/28/2014 10:33 pm : link
Frank Gifford picked them to win the Super Bowl.

I think they went something like 2-12.
Giants Went 6 - 0 In Preseason  
Jim in Tampa : 8/28/2014 10:33 pm : link
Back in the day. Sometime in the early 70s I think.
1973  
Johnm/Dallas : 8/28/2014 11:42 pm : link
Won opening game against Houston in the last NFL game played at Yankee Stadium. After that was a horror. It was not so much going 6-0 in the preseason as it was the Giants had a good year in 1972 and seemed to be a team on the rise.
Eli needs a number one WR  
deadkurtrulz : 8/29/2014 1:00 am : link
He has not had one to throw to since Nicks vanished in the second half of 2012. Cruz has been doubled since and RR can't find his own ass with both hands. Becky has certainly filled Nicks shoes. Instead of vanishing he never even appeared.

The box will be stacked to stop the run and Cruz will be doubled to stop the pass. No TE's to worry about and no WR's that are a threat.

No weapons and a patchwork OL. It's Eli's fault. Let the blame games begin!

The twelfth pick in the draft and he hasn't even practiced yet.Could be a season killer.
RE: Eli needs a number one WR  
baadbill : 8/29/2014 8:18 am : link
In comment 11830754 deadkurtrulz said:
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He has not had one to throw to since Nicks vanished in the second half of 2012. Cruz has been doubled since and RR can't find his own ass with both hands. Becky has certainly filled Nicks shoes. Instead of vanishing he never even appeared.

The box will be stacked to stop the run and Cruz will be doubled to stop the pass. No TE's to worry about and no WR's that are a threat.

No weapons and a patchwork OL. It's Eli's fault. Let the blame games begin!

The twelfth pick in the draft and he hasn't even practiced yet.Could be a season killer.


Yup.
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