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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 7:11 pm
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homer i don't care about other qbs situations  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:16 pm : link
They are irrelevant to this situation. Just like 2011's OL is irrelevant to this situation.
Love how Connor is busting  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:16 pm : link
On Jerry for blocking against Pats number 2's........Jerry might be a "2"..... Who cares!?
Well  
blueblood'11 : 8/28/2014 8:16 pm : link
let's be honest. This defense is what will carry this team this year.
RE: Andre Williams! NFL preseason sucks  
yalebowl : 8/28/2014 8:17 pm : link
If I could of seen it! I guess I can blame my DSL speed. Only 1.5. I know when it's going freeze. The picture starts looking good. About every third play the stream freezes and I miss key plays.

I'll be glad when Sunday Ticket starts and I can get a dependable signal from directv until it snows or rains.

Suck suck suck!



What a run
Homer has never liked Eli  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:17 pm : link
for some reason.
RE: Raanan  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:18 pm : link
In comment 11830210 Canton said:
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@JordanRaanan: Touch passes are not Ryan Nassib's thing. Fastballs only. Definitely something he needs to improve. #giants


I wonder if Nassib rockets every pass because he's concerned that a throw with less velocity will be picked since the windows in the NFL are smaller than those he saw in college. If so, then time should cure that problem.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 8:18 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 33s

Meanwhile in Denver ... Brandon McManus just went wide right on a 52-yard field goal attempt.
Stats can lie  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:19 pm : link
Eli in for two possessions goes 1-4 with two punts. Nassib comes in, Giants go on a 8 play drive and get three.

You could easily say, "look nassib can do it". Well the whole drive was andre williams, combined with receiver drops, and bad timing that resulted in incompletions.
Stapleton  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:19 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Meanwhile in Dallas ... new Broncos kicker Brandon McManus just went wide right on a 52-yard field goal attempt.d
Moore might be done for the night  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:19 pm : link
Smart decision
RE: homer i don't care about other qbs situations  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:20 pm : link
In comment 11830214 crick78 said:
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They are irrelevant to this situation. Just like 2011's OL is irrelevant to this situation.
you made a statement that is not supported by the stats. Sorry.
There goes or 7th round pick  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:20 pm : link
Lol
RE: Stats can lie  
kepler20 : 8/28/2014 8:21 pm : link
In comment 11830224 crick78 said:
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Eli in for two possessions goes 1-4 with two punts. Nassib comes in, Giants go on a 8 play drive and get three.

You could easily say, "look nassib can do it". Well the whole drive was andre williams, combined with receiver drops, and bad timing that resulted in incompletions.



Coughlin's loyalty will absolutely be tested.

I only hope that if it comes to it that Jerry or Mara will step in and make it an issue that they control
RE: Homer has never liked Eli  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:21 pm : link
In comment 11830218 crick78 said:
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for some reason.
nonsense. Facts are stubborn things. Even Eli can't stop the calendar.
Manningham done  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:22 pm : link
@JordanRaanan: Mario Manningham's 1% chance of making #giants just went to 0%. He's out with a calf injury.Do
I guess they don't call hand checks by the receivers  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
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wtf was that?!  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
....McBride looked like crap there?!
Beason  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
@Connor_J_Hughes: Per @KimJonesSports, Jon Beason will come off the PUP list as the Giants trim roster to 53.
This is what I have seen so far, Eli was bad in 2012, abysmal in 2013  
redthumper32 : 8/28/2014 8:23 pm : link
and so far it appears the slide is continuing. The offense can't convert 3rd down and the defense can't get off the field on 3rd down. I am not sure if there is a "switch" that can be thrown when the season starts, if there is the Jints are going to have to put it in the on position.
Kimberling Jones on Beason  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:24 pm : link
D@KimJonesSports: More Beason: He finally found proper orthotics/shoes to protect toe. Says he's "confident I'll contribute" on Sept. 8. NYG confident in him.
Homer  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:24 pm : link
i'm sorry you didn't watch any of the giants games last year or this year to see the situation Manning is in. Your blindness is staggering.
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yankees78 : 8/28/2014 8:24 pm : link
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@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.


Christ.

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart
homer  
crick78 : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
there are your 'stats' lol
Anyone who's not concerned by Manning's performance  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
the last year or so is deluding themselves.
RE: I guess they don't call hand checks by the receivers  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
In comment 11830241 jeff57 said:
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Agreed. How was that not illegal contact, if what Bowman did was? McBride basically fell down.
RE: RE: RE: when a qb has been pressured  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:25 pm : link
In comment 11830208 Servo said:
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hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.

statistically, he was the 17th most hit qb last year.Brady was hit more. Luck was it a lot more.



Why listen to the people in the other thread who pointed out that your data point is meaningless unless you adjust it as a percentage of dropbacks when you can just keep being wrong?
you don't want to do that as it makes Manning look even worse
RE: ....  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
In comment 11830248 yankees78 said:
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@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.





Christ.

How dare Eli not be able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds! Scrub!

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart
this Patriots broadcast crew is terrible  
WeatherMan : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
the play by play is slobbering all over this QB, they never showed the Giants lineups, the sideline guy can't get 5 words in with the audio cutting out, and for reasons unknown they have gone multiple times to a "studio" for pedestrian analysis that amounts to a big commercial for Bobs Discount Furniture. Gah.
RE: RE: RE: RE: when a qb has been pressured  
Servo : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
In comment 11830254 HomerJones45 said:
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In comment 11830194 HomerJones45 said:


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hit, sacked like Manning you don't just 'snap' out of it. It's going to be a process that must start with the OL showing Eli they can do their job, so he can do his.

statistically, he was the 17th most hit qb last year.Brady was hit more. Luck was it a lot more.



Why listen to the people in the other thread who pointed out that your data point is meaningless unless you adjust it as a percentage of dropbacks when you can just keep being wrong?

you don't want to do that as it makes Manning look even worse


Um, no it certainly doesn't.
God, the quote feature here is awful.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:27 pm : link
In response to Eli not being able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds, how dare he!
Eli...  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:28 pm : link
... seems to have misfired on the pass to Cruz.

Randle was the LVP. He dropped an easy one on a first down throw. Eli hit him on the run. Looked to me like Eli thought no one was open so he rolled out right.

Randle had the brain fart on a third down throw. I guess we have no way of knowing who messed up but who is your money on?

Also, are there really posters on this site who think Nassib would do better this year than Eli? That seems ridiculous to me.

In OL  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:28 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Dallas Reynolds in for J.D. Walton at center. Richburg + Jerry still at guard. #NYG
Manning had time tonight  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
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Almost Everyone on this thread is insane  
djm : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
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Wow a play by a TE......  
Simms11 : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
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RE: ....  
Riggies : 8/28/2014 8:29 pm : link
In comment 11830248 yankees78 said:
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@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.



Christ.

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart

But he should be trusting them. He has time every throw. Don't they read BBI GTs?
You see the potential in the offense  
Rflairr : 8/28/2014 8:30 pm : link
when Nassib is in there. mcAdoo does some creative things
RE: Homer  
HomerJones45 : 8/28/2014 8:30 pm : link
In comment 11830247 crick78 said:
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i'm sorry you didn't watch any of the giants games last year or this year to see the situation Manning is in. Your blindness is staggering.
your watching a qb that ranked 31st or so in the league last year and your making excuses for him. Just who is blind?
RE: RE: ....  
eli4life : 8/28/2014 8:30 pm : link
In comment 11830256 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 11830248 yankees78 said:


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@PFF_Pete: @ConorTOrr Eli Time To Throw in 2013: 2.73 seconds. 2014 preseason: 2.69 seconds.





Christ.

How dare Eli not be able to get rid of the ball in 2.7 seconds! Scrub!

Takes me at least 5 full seconds to fart



Hey maybe that's most of the problem that plus wr's that run routes like half the post on this message board.

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Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 8s

Full house backfield for the Giants: both John Conner and Henry Hynoski in at the same time. #NYG
O line was blowing up..  
rocco8112 : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
. The pats 2's. We can ground it this year ask Eli to pull a Russell Wilson and just hit a handful of meaningful throws a game. We know Eli is the king of winning it late.

If we try to air it out 35 plus a game this year we are screwed.
Nice running by Hillis  
jeff57 : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
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This  
Brian T : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
Is going to be one disappointing season

Rushing attack  
Boris : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
Is impressive. Should open the passing game if our receivers learn how to catch.
Can we be keeping both fullbacks?  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
@art_stapleton: Full house backfield for the Giants: both John Conner and Henry Hynoski in at the same time. #NYG
I  
AcidTest : 8/28/2014 8:31 pm : link
know it's against second teamers, but Jerry and Gaines have looked very good.
Graziano  
Canton : 8/28/2014 8:32 pm : link
@DanGrazianoESPN: Both fullbacks in for Giants on that last play, which is new.
Jerry  
Andy in Boston : 8/28/2014 8:32 pm : link
Is moving people tonight
RE: Graziano  
SGMen : 8/28/2014 8:33 pm : link
In comment 11830281 Canton said:
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@DanGrazianoESPN: Both fullbacks in for Giants on that last play, which is new.
Interesting if for some crazy reason we kept two full-backs. I would love to see Connor traded for a #7 next year, conditional or not, just so we get something for him. He is good.
Terrible no call there.  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/28/2014 8:34 pm : link
Guy didn't even turn around to play the ball, and the ref was right there. Ref is retarded.
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