that the play calling did absolutely NOTHING to help figure out our WR options. Yeah, Cox vs Gaskins was a ?, but we have several WR on the bubble and 10 pass attempts certainly isn't going to get it done. Momentum and sustaining drives is nice, but the coaches certainly must feel they have enough info from prior games to make their decisions.
My positive takeaway: Liked how we run blocked and churned yards.
Negative takeaway: 1st offense still sux...against a far less-than starter quality defense.
He will be insurance if we lose our depth in the backfield, sure to injury.
The fumble is Robinsons first critical error. As others have said, he's shown promise. This is his first year, going into the season without an injury. I think he stays.
that the play calling did absolutely NOTHING to help figure out our WR options. Yeah, Cox vs Gaskins was a ?, but we have several WR on the bubble and 10 pass attempts certainly isn't going to get it done. Momentum and sustaining drives is nice, but the coaches certainly must feel they have enough info from prior games to make their decisions.
My positive takeaway: Liked how we run blocked and churned yards.
Negative takeaway: 1st offense still sux...against a far less-than starter quality defense.
There continues to be a lot of confusion over there on the sidelines from the coordinators. On that delay of game, Eli had to hand signal the play into Painter. SMH. A couple of blocker weren't even aware of their assignments.
The defense will have to play well.
McAdoo will be forced to play 70/30 run/pass. The running game is strong. Teams will stack the box. That's when you play action or screen.
They will have to go light in the passing game. I don't like the way Eli looks right now. I saw a stat where the Oline is giving Eli about 2.4 seconds to throw. That is terrible. They have to move that time to at least 3.0 seconds average.
lack of chemistry between Eli and Randle. It is upsetting at the number if catchable balls that are dropped and kill drives. I'm pushing all my chips to the center of the table and am betting that a Rookie who has seen the field all preseason and practiced sparingly is going to be the igniter of this offense
lack of chemistry between Eli and Randle. It is upsetting at the number if catchable balls that are dropped and kill drives. I'm pushing all my chips to the center of the table and am betting that a Rookie who has seen the field all preseason and practiced sparingly is going to be the igniter of this offense
Unfortunately that rookie is not going to be on the field any time soon.
I remember 1 blitz by Bennett. They didnt game plan this exhibition season. Next week they will and I'm going to get a true sense of the philosophy of McAdoo and how Fewell will attack
Who is competition at this point? Adkins has already been cut. Fox hardly did anything. It was Adkins after Kennard jumped Herz. Unless you think the Giants are going with 5 LBers and I doubt that.
Beason, McClain, Williams, Kennard, Paysinger and ______
In what year did the light come on for Toomer? I know he was a dim bulb at first, and coaches were about to give up on him. We can only hope that Randle is Toomer 2.0 in that regard. Can Coughlin bring Toomer in to mentor Randle or something?
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "It was the right route, it just wasn't timed right. I guess he was expecting me to run it quicker since it was press."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "I'm pretty sure with something simple like that we can get it fixed. Not that big of a deal."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle on TC's comment: "I don't know if it's a sign of frustration, but we have to start clicking on those plays ...
@TomRock_Newsday: ... . Especially since the season starts next week."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "I'm definitely confident in the situation."
Alrighty dude...
I'm tired of Randle. He just don't seem, like he understands, how to get open. 3rd and 3 with the curl route open, and open for the first. He does a stop and go, at the first down mark. Damn I miss Steve Smith sometimes
In what year did the light come on for Toomer? I know he was a dim bulb at first, and coaches were about to give up on him. We can only hope that Randle is Toomer 2.0 in that regard. Can Coughlin bring Toomer in to mentor Randle or something?
I think that CBA in 2011 helped the aging vets but was more harmful to younger players. Lack of contact drills is necessary for many of these guys. Noticeable around the league that some of these young guys have issues in live game action.
This is a systemic issue with him from day 1. He's not a rookie but he makes the same mistakes he's made since he's been drafted. New scheme or not he has a habit of leaving the QB out to dry by running the wrong routes.
You think Randle's consistently wrong routes are due to a lack of contact in practice?
I think so. Because in camp reports I always hear how great his non contact drills are going. How he is making great plays against Prince and DRC and these other physical DBs but I often think it is a control environment. These defenses aren't allowed to get really physical with these guys anymore in practice. The coaches can't protect them in live games, where DBs are constantly jamming disrupting routes. I don't really see how it helps younger receivers.
I think it is criminal that now the only way to truly practice goal line stances is hope you get one in preseason. That is crazy.
Gee, you guys are terrific!!
I cannot argue with much of the analysis here.
I do question when the Giants will register their first win of the season.
Houston maybe?
Second win?
I want to be positive but I've seen precious little on the offensive side of the ball by the first team to warrant another division championship or ring.
stinks but that's ok-he has company. What bothers me is how he is always the primary source for attribution in how great this new offense is. The guy never shuts up. Big hat; no cattle, as they say in Texas.
Holliday over Parker. He has game breaking ability on both punts and KOs. Parker is nice but is not going to see much time behind the starters and OBJ.
Just a hunch.
I rally hope the Skins cut Evan Royser or Roy Helu
stinks but that's ok-he has company. What bothers me is how he is always the primary source for attribution in how great this new offense is. The guy never shuts up. Big hat; no cattle, as they say in Texas.
how good RR can be. In terms of Football IQ he seems to struggle. Last year miscommunications, and now, granted new system, he still has issues. Will he ever just click in a system and produce?
Holliday over Parker. He has game breaking ability on both punts and KOs. Parker is nice but is not going to see much time behind the starters and OBJ.
Just a hunch.
I would like to see that also. Holliday over Parker. We saw Parker muff a punt last night. Holliday is such a weapon, TC should really consider keeping the kid around. Game breaker. Else, maybe we can sneak David Wilson in there just to return KOs and punts.
how good RR can be. In terms of Football IQ he seems to struggle. Last year miscommunications, and now, granted new system, he still has issues. Will he ever just click in a system and produce?
Anish, do you know if he was considered a dimwit playing college ball? Randle could actually make/break the season for this team. If he keeps having brain farts, he'll be useless but I'm sure he'll still be a starter. If he turns it around and lights it up, the passing offense will be very hard to defend.
*makes the sign of the cross*
Hynoski - shoulder...
Herman... getting x-rays....
Week 16 is my vote.
Gaines over Brewer and Brown. We might keep one of Brewer or Brown, but it's Gaines if we only keep one of the three.
Cox over Gaskins, but it's close.
Have to keep Parker, even though he has trouble hanging onto punts. Remember Holliday has a big fumbling history.
Idonije over Kuhn.
Fells, Donnell, and Robinson at TE.
MM is gone.
Yes, yes and probably. Kuhn is gone I think.
My positive takeaway: Liked how we run blocked and churned yards.
Negative takeaway: 1st offense still sux...against a far less-than starter quality defense.
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That is pretty weird. ODB is suppose to be the focal point.
thanks
The fumble is Robinsons first critical error. As others have said, he's shown promise. This is his first year, going into the season without an injury. I think he stays.
My positive takeaway: Liked how we run blocked and churned yards.
Negative takeaway: 1st offense still sux...against a far less-than starter quality defense.
There continues to be a lot of confusion over there on the sidelines from the coordinators. On that delay of game, Eli had to hand signal the play into Painter. SMH. A couple of blocker weren't even aware of their assignments.
Me thinks if ODB was healthy, Randle would not be starting.
thanks
Wasn't he on the roster for all 16 games last season? I don't think the Giants could do that the following year.
McAdoo will be forced to play 70/30 run/pass. The running game is strong. Teams will stack the box. That's when you play action or screen.
They will have to go light in the passing game. I don't like the way Eli looks right now. I saw a stat where the Oline is giving Eli about 2.4 seconds to throw. That is terrible. They have to move that time to at least 3.0 seconds average.
Hynoski injured his shoulder. Not sure how serious.
Herman is going for x-rays on some part of his lower body.
Herzlich also on the bubble IMO.
Cox was active 14 games last year. I think 10 and you cannot go to the practice squad.
Herzlich also on the bubble IMO.
Hosely isn't going anywhere...
Yet.
He's our kyle wilson
Herman got rolled up and is limping. Could be serious but he's going to get suspended.
Unfortunately that rookie is not going to be on the field any time soon.
Herzlich also on the bubble IMO.
Who is competition at this point? Adkins has already been cut. Fox hardly did anything. It was Adkins after Kennard jumped Herz. Unless you think the Giants are going with 5 LBers and I doubt that.
Beason, McClain, Williams, Kennard, Paysinger and ______
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "I'm pretty sure with something simple like that we can get it fixed. Not that big of a deal."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle on TC's comment: "I don't know if it's a sign of frustration, but we have to start clicking on those plays ...
@TomRock_Newsday: ... . Especially since the season starts next week."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "I'm definitely confident in the situation."
Alrighty dude...
In what year did the light come on for Toomer? I know he was a dim bulb at first, and coaches were about to give up on him. We can only hope that Randle is Toomer 2.0 in that regard. Can Coughlin bring Toomer in to mentor Randle or something?
Quote:
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "It was the right route, it just wasn't timed right. I guess he was expecting me to run it quicker since it was press."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "I'm pretty sure with something simple like that we can get it fixed. Not that big of a deal."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle on TC's comment: "I don't know if it's a sign of frustration, but we have to start clicking on those plays ...
@TomRock_Newsday: ... . Especially since the season starts next week."
@TomRock_Newsday: Randle: "I'm definitely confident in the situation."
Alrighty dude...
I'm tired of Randle. He just don't seem, like he understands, how to get open. 3rd and 3 with the curl route open, and open for the first. He does a stop and go, at the first down mark. Damn I miss Steve Smith sometimes
In what year did the light come on for Toomer? I know he was a dim bulb at first, and coaches were about to give up on him. We can only hope that Randle is Toomer 2.0 in that regard. Can Coughlin bring Toomer in to mentor Randle or something?
I think that CBA in 2011 helped the aging vets but was more harmful to younger players. Lack of contact drills is necessary for many of these guys. Noticeable around the league that some of these young guys have issues in live game action.
----Kevin Gilbride on the 2013 Giants
I think so. Because in camp reports I always hear how great his non contact drills are going. How he is making great plays against Prince and DRC and these other physical DBs but I often think it is a control environment. These defenses aren't allowed to get really physical with these guys anymore in practice. The coaches can't protect them in live games, where DBs are constantly jamming disrupting routes. I don't really see how it helps younger receivers.
I think it is criminal that now the only way to truly practice goal line stances is hope you get one in preseason. That is crazy.
I cannot argue with much of the analysis here.
I do question when the Giants will register their first win of the season.
Houston maybe?
Second win?
I want to be positive but I've seen precious little on the offensive side of the ball by the first team to warrant another division championship or ring.
Cruz only got to play because of injury to slot receiver
it wasn't unit game 3 against Philly that Cruz broke out
Don't see "Important Dates" in bar above. Am I missing something?
He looks the part but makes no plays. I would rather keep Quarles.
Just a hunch.
You do realize McManus missed a 52 and 54 yarder?
Just a hunch.
I would like to see that also. Holliday over Parker. We saw Parker muff a punt last night. Holliday is such a weapon, TC should really consider keeping the kid around. Game breaker. Else, maybe we can sneak David Wilson in there just to return KOs and punts.
Anish, do you know if he was considered a dimwit playing college ball? Randle could actually make/break the season for this team. If he keeps having brain farts, he'll be useless but I'm sure he'll still be a starter. If he turns it around and lights it up, the passing offense will be very hard to defend.