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TE Adrien Robinson - Does he stay or go?

gidiefor : 8/29/2014 8:10 am
On the one hand Robinson has shown some real flashes this pre-season - with highlight reel catches up the seam proving he has real athletic ability and also making key blocks in the running game - especially last night against the Pats. On the other hand sometimes he looks lost out there, whiffing plays and missing his blocking assignments.

Is he improving - or is he a lost cause? What say you?
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Fells  
Toth029 : 8/29/2014 8:28 am : link
Is the most complete TE. And even he's average at best.

Reese screwed this team up by basic decisions like that. He's lucky Gettleman threw him a bone last year with Beason.
Worst group of TEs on any NFL roster  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/29/2014 8:34 am : link
Whether he goes or stays is irrelevant. His performance is right in line with the others, totally forgettable.
Reese will never cut him  
Steve in South Jersey : 8/29/2014 8:36 am : link
he's the JPP to TE!!! Reese would lose face if he cut Adrien Robinson.
He will be stripped of his roster position  
njm : 8/29/2014 8:38 am : link
.
He's staying  
islander1 : 8/29/2014 8:40 am : link
because Reese is so much smarter than everyone else.
He'll show us!
If you watch the Pats game, here is what logic tells you:  
Marty in Albany : 8/29/2014 8:43 am : link
He did not start, so he is behind the starter.
He did not play in the first half, so he is behind the backup TE.
He did not play well in the game, so it is unlikely that he moved up to pass either of those guys.
He is not a demon on special teams.
So at best, he's third string on a team that should only keep two TEs.
I don't know how the Giants would justify keeping him.
He is terrible and he probably stays  
BeerFridge : 8/29/2014 8:56 am : link
I just threw up in my mouth a little
RE: he came in with the reputation  
GIANTSr01 : 8/29/2014 9:01 am : link
In comment 11830897 Headhunter said:
Quote:
of being a great athletic TE. The 4 seasons here he did very little and no one cried when he signed with the Vikings. He goes on to become a Pro Bowler


They both came in with the reputation for being athletic developmental projects. That's where the similarities end. Shiancoe stayed healthy and developed into a solid 2-way te with the giants. Then signed with the vikes for a decent sized contact.
TE Depth charts  
Defenderdawg : 8/29/2014 9:01 am : link
Problem when it comes to waivers is Oakland is desperate for a TE and would have first claim, not to mention several other teams

Code:

ARIZONA

Carlson, John
Niklas, Troy
Housler, Rob
Fells, Darren
Hardy, Andre

ATLANTA

Toilolo, Levine
Pascoe, Bear
Shuler, Mickey
Pedersen, Jacob

BALTIMORE

Pitta, Dennis
Daniels, Owen
Gillmore, Crockett
Overbay, Nathan
Supernaw, Phillip

BUFFALO

Chandler, Scott
Moeaki, Tony
Smith, Lee
Gragg, Chris
Jones, Dominique

CAROLINA

Olsen, Greg
Dickson, Ed
Williams, Brandon
Brockel, Richie
McNeill, Mike

CHICAGO

Bennett, Martellus
Rosario, Dante
Mulligan, Matthew
Mastrud, Jeron

CINCINNATI

Gresham, Jermaine
Smith, Alex
Eifert, Tyler
Charles, Orson
Hewitt, Ryan

CLEVELAND

Cameron, Jordan
Barnidge, Gary
Dray, Jim
Ogbuehi, Emmanuel

DALLAS

Witten, Jason
Escobar, Gavin
Hanna, James
Watson, Asa

DENVER

Thomas, Julius
Green, Virgil
Tamme, Jacob
Konz, Jameson
Morrah, Cameron

DETROIT

Pettigrew, Brandon
Fauria, Joseph
Ebron, Eric
Egnew, Michael
Igwenagu, Emil
Thompson, Jordan

GREEN BAY

Quarless, Andrew
Bostick, Brandon
Taylor, Ryan
Rodgers, Richard
Stoneburner, Jake
Perillo, Justin

HOUSTON

Graham, Garrett
Griffin, Ryan
Fiedorowicz, CJ
Denham, AD
Potter, Zach

INDIANAPOLIS

Allen, Dwayne
Fleener, Coby
Doyle, Jack
Saunders, Weslye
Swoope, Erik

JACKSONVILLE

Lewis, Marcedes
Harbor, Clay
Barden, Brandon
Jensen, Marcel
Tialavea, DJ

KANSAS CITY

Fasano, Anthony
Kelce, Travis
Harris, Demetrius
Gordon, Richard

MIAMI

Clay, Charles
Sims, Dion
Miller, Kyle
Wilson, Evan
Hoskins, Gator

MINNESOTA

Rudolph, Kyle
Ellison, Rhett
Reisner, Allen
Ford, Chase

NEW ENGLAND

Gronkowski, Rob
Wright, Tim
Hoomanawanui, Michael
Maneri, Steve

NEW ORLEANS

Graham, Jimmy
Watson, Benjamin
Hill, Josh
Jacobs, Nic

NEW YORK JETS

Cumberland, Jeff
Amaro, Jace
Sudfeld, Zach
Pantale, Chris

OAKLAND

Ausberry, David
Rivera, Mychal
Leonhardt, Brian
Murphy, Jake
Simonson, Scott

PHILADELPHIA

Celek, Brent
Ertz, Zach
Casey, James
Burton, Trey

PITTSBURGH

Miller, Heath
Spaeth, Matt
Palmer, Michael
Paulson, David
Blanchflower, Rob
Davis, Bryce

ST. LOUIS

Cook, Jared
Kendricks, Lance
Harkey, Cory
Cunningham, Justice
Bayer, Alex
Smelley, Brad

SAN DIEGO

Gates, Antonio
Green, Ladarius
Phillips, John
Johnson, David
Flacco, Michael

SAN FRANCISCO

Davis, Vernon
McDonald, Vance
Carrier, Derek
Cleveland, Asante

SEATTLE

Miller, Zach
Willson, Luke
Helfet, Cooper
Allen, Rashaun
Presley, Morrell

TAMPA BAY

Myers, Brandon
Stocker, Luke
Seferian-Jenkins, Austin
Brate, Cameron

TENNESSEE

Walker, Delanie
Stevens, Craig
Thompson, Taylor
Schepler, Jason
Coffman, Chase

WASHINGTON

Reed, Jordan
Paulsen, Logan
Paul, Niles
Bolser, Ted
I think...  
Bryan : 8/29/2014 9:02 am : link
...he has to go - he looks awkward,still - concentration is a question mark - injuries are an issue - I have to believe the Giants are going to be pouring over the waiver wire tomorrow for a TE - Donnell looked the best of the bunch last night (Davis needed to 'leak out' two yards,in the first quarter, for a first down,he didn't run the route beyond the first down needed (two yards) and then made a half baked attempt (didn't try to lower his shoulder to create leverage on the defender to gain the first down a yard away - JUST AWFUL).
If we don't bring in another tight end from the waiver wires  
Essex : 8/29/2014 9:04 am : link
I am going to throw my hands up. Usually, the waiver wire is not the solution, but we don't have an NFL caliber starting Tight End on this roster. Robinson is a bust.
I'm still bummed we couldn't find money for Marty B  
BeerFridge : 8/29/2014 9:06 am : link
.
Donnell. Robinson and Fells  
aquidneck : 8/29/2014 9:13 am : link
and another guy for the PS is what we'll go with.

That's enough young guys with "upside." Don't see us picking up a similar developmental player for the 53, but if by some miracle a vet who could be counted on to block well and run decent routes shakes loose maybe we sacrifice a guy like Robinson.

Then again, we've already got Fells and Davis so not sure there's any improvement there available either.
I'm in the minority  
kelsto811 : 8/29/2014 9:16 am : link
But I still want this guy on the team
RE: If you watch the Pats game, here is what logic tells you:  
Great White Ghost : 8/29/2014 9:28 am : link
In comment 11830953 Marty in Albany said:
Quote:
He did not start, so he is behind the starter.
He did not play in the first half, so he is behind the backup TE.
He did not play well in the game, so it is unlikely that he moved up to pass either of those guys.
He is not a demon on special teams.
So at best, he's third string on a team that should only keep two TEs.
I don't know how the Giants would justify keeping him.
you can't keep 2 TEs. even if you only keep 2 of who we have now. Offense can't function with substitutions and injuries with 2 TE. they need three.
We are talking about replacement level talent  
WideRight : 8/29/2014 9:29 am : link
I understand the appeal of athleticism, and that may be what lets him stay. But even if he goes, any future need for someone of Robinson's ability can be obtained at no cost. That used to be one of Reese's strengths.
STAYS.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 8/29/2014 9:39 am : link
Kellen Davis has experience, but was horrendous in the preseason in all aspects.
I'm usually pretty patient  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/29/2014 9:47 am : link
but all these guys suck. I would try to find replacements for all of them.
Robinson is probably a bust and Reese was wrong on this kid  
Geeman : 8/29/2014 9:59 am : link
but it's too early to throw in the towel due to his athletic ability. Ya gotta give him one more season to see if he develops into at least a serviceable TE.
Pull names...  
rocco8112 : 8/29/2014 10:00 am : link
... Out of a hat for tthis group.

Worst TV corps in NFL
...  
yankees78 : 8/29/2014 10:01 am : link
Don't know and I'm losing my patience.

Hell he probably stays.. Whatever
I don't see all this amazing athleticism with robinson.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/29/2014 10:03 am : link
frankly he looks chunky and unathletic.
Robinson should stay.  
Klaatu : 8/29/2014 10:04 am : link
I'd bury him in the old end zone next to Jimmy Hoffa. He can stay there forever.
I agree 100% with you Ten Ton.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 8/29/2014 10:04 am : link
Jerry said that based on combine results, not on-field fluidity.
..  
GP : 8/29/2014 10:07 am : link
It's largely irrelevant, that's how bad that group is. But he's joining Randle and Hosley on my list of most frustrating Giants.
David Paulson  
CruzShip52 : 8/29/2014 10:07 am : link
Steelers may cut him. Te from Oregon few years ago solid receiving te

Giants will undoubtedly bring in a te that gets cut

I see donnell and Robinson sticking

And giants pickup a te that gets cut
At least 3 on that list  
PeterS : 8/29/2014 10:28 am : link
were once on our roster. Maybe more.

I tried focusing on the TEs last night and they played decently. Some good blocks and catches but one thing stood out: they don't play with a sense of confidence.
Why does he always wear long sleeves?  
Exit 172 : 8/29/2014 10:37 am : link
It's a hot summer night in New Jersey. Every player is in short sleeves, sweating standing still.

Robinson is in long sleeves. I don't get it!
RE: Why does he always wear long sleeves?  
Scyber : 8/29/2014 10:48 am : link
In comment 11831252 Exit 172 said:
Quote:
It's a hot summer night in New Jersey. Every player is in short sleeves, sweating standing still.

Robinson is in long sleeves. I don't get it!


I was actually wondering the same thing last night. I wonder if he has some inapprppriate tattoos on his arms or something.
RE: Why does he always wear long sleeves?  
Dave in Hoboken : 8/29/2014 10:49 am : link
In comment 11831252 Exit 172 said:
Quote:
It's a hot summer night in New Jersey. Every player is in short sleeves, sweating standing still.

Robinson is in long sleeves. I don't get it!


Might have fat, flabby arms.

Anyway, the fact that he's a consideration to stay highlights just how bad our TE situation is.
giants te problems over the years may reflect more on TC's concept of  
plato : 8/29/2014 10:55 am : link
TE and how to use them than it does to the talent of the TE's who have been here. Perhaps TC prefers a Howard Cross to a Bavaro. Just guessing but its been a long run of poorly handling one position including shockey
but to answer the question, robinson stays. last week he demonstrated  
plato : 8/29/2014 11:01 am : link
the great potential that makes him a possible coach/fo heart breaker
I vote go. He should be in the same pile as Moss, Barden, and the rest  
PatersonPlank : 8/29/2014 11:23 am : link
of our poor draft picks.
He might just want to avoid turf  
Some Fan : 8/29/2014 12:03 pm : link
burns on his arms. With the materials they use, it really doesn't make you much hotter.
When are final cuts?  
WideRight : 8/29/2014 12:06 pm : link
.
Stay  
jeff57 : 8/29/2014 12:14 pm : link
Unless they pick up another TE.
It doesn't matter.  
Red Dog : 8/29/2014 1:49 pm : link
He's yet another failed mid-round draft choice, but there's not going to be anybody better available to replace him.

So it doesn't matter if he stays or goes. Just doesn't matter.

Regardless of what they do short of a major trade for a proven player, which won't happen for a lot of reasons, they will have nothing at the TE position again this season.

All that does matter is that they don't keep 4 TEs because none of them are worth a damn. They need to pick 3, any 3, and go with them.

And I still think Bear Pascoe, who they let walk, was better than any of these guys they have now.
I think he stays but in a very tenuous manner  
Some Fan : 8/29/2014 2:08 pm : link
ie, one of the first cuts if we sign someone else at any position. My gut also tells me that in crunch time Robinson would come up small.
If I was TC  
Bleedin Blue : 8/29/2014 2:10 pm : link
I'd look Reese square in the eye and say "are we done with your F%&KING project???" and "oh and you better get me a TE in the next draft!"
1 more year for the JPP of Ice Bucket Lifters  
ghost718 : 8/29/2014 2:28 pm : link
Think it will be more about politics than potential.
So you want to cut him? - In-house options?  
Bob in Newburgh : 8/29/2014 2:55 pm : link
Donnell - Same developmental type of player. Appears more fluid in movement, but does not block well.

Davis - Next to worthless and nothing to develop. To me cutting Davis and keeping Robinson is a no-brainer.
RE: If you watch the Pats game, here is what logic tells you:  
superdamo : 8/29/2014 5:16 pm : link
In comment 11830953 Marty in Albany said:
Quote:
He did not start, so he is behind the starter.
He did not play in the first half, so he is behind the backup TE.
He did not play well in the game, so it is unlikely that he moved up to pass either of those guys.
He is not a demon on special teams.
So at best, he's third string on a team that should only keep two TEs.
I don't know how the Giants would justify keeping him.
I think no TE caught a pass in the pats game so thats not proving anything but they all suck. he is the best of the worst though in the passing game
RE: TE Depth charts  
superdamo : 8/29/2014 5:18 pm : link
In comment 11830986 Defenderdawg said:
Quote:
Problem when it comes to waivers is Oakland is desperate for a TE and would have first claim, not to mention several other teams



Code:



ARIZONA

Carlson, John
Niklas, Troy
Housler, Rob
Fells, Darren
Hardy, Andre

ATLANTA

Toilolo, Levine
Pascoe, Bear
Shuler, Mickey
Pedersen, Jacob

BALTIMORE

Pitta, Dennis
Daniels, Owen
Gillmore, Crockett
Overbay, Nathan
Supernaw, Phillip

BUFFALO

Chandler, Scott
Moeaki, Tony
Smith, Lee
Gragg, Chris
Jones, Dominique

CAROLINA

Olsen, Greg
Dickson, Ed
Williams, Brandon
Brockel, Richie
McNeill, Mike

CHICAGO

Bennett, Martellus
Rosario, Dante
Mulligan, Matthew
Mastrud, Jeron

CINCINNATI

Gresham, Jermaine
Smith, Alex
Eifert, Tyler
Charles, Orson
Hewitt, Ryan

CLEVELAND

Cameron, Jordan
Barnidge, Gary
Dray, Jim
Ogbuehi, Emmanuel

DALLAS

Witten, Jason
Escobar, Gavin
Hanna, James
Watson, Asa

DENVER

Thomas, Julius
Green, Virgil
Tamme, Jacob
Konz, Jameson
Morrah, Cameron

DETROIT

Pettigrew, Brandon
Fauria, Joseph
Ebron, Eric
Egnew, Michael
Igwenagu, Emil
Thompson, Jordan

GREEN BAY

Quarless, Andrew
Bostick, Brandon
Taylor, Ryan
Rodgers, Richard
Stoneburner, Jake
Perillo, Justin

HOUSTON

Graham, Garrett
Griffin, Ryan
Fiedorowicz, CJ
Denham, AD
Potter, Zach

INDIANAPOLIS

Allen, Dwayne
Fleener, Coby
Doyle, Jack
Saunders, Weslye
Swoope, Erik

JACKSONVILLE

Lewis, Marcedes
Harbor, Clay
Barden, Brandon
Jensen, Marcel
Tialavea, DJ

KANSAS CITY

Fasano, Anthony
Kelce, Travis
Harris, Demetrius
Gordon, Richard

MIAMI

Clay, Charles
Sims, Dion
Miller, Kyle
Wilson, Evan
Hoskins, Gator

MINNESOTA

Rudolph, Kyle
Ellison, Rhett
Reisner, Allen
Ford, Chase

NEW ENGLAND

Gronkowski, Rob
Wright, Tim
Hoomanawanui, Michael
Maneri, Steve

NEW ORLEANS

Graham, Jimmy
Watson, Benjamin
Hill, Josh
Jacobs, Nic

NEW YORK JETS

Cumberland, Jeff
Amaro, Jace
Sudfeld, Zach
Pantale, Chris

OAKLAND

Ausberry, David
Rivera, Mychal
Leonhardt, Brian
Murphy, Jake
Simonson, Scott

PHILADELPHIA

Celek, Brent
Ertz, Zach
Casey, James
Burton, Trey

PITTSBURGH

Miller, Heath
Spaeth, Matt
Palmer, Michael
Paulson, David
Blanchflower, Rob
Davis, Bryce

ST. LOUIS

Cook, Jared
Kendricks, Lance
Harkey, Cory
Cunningham, Justice
Bayer, Alex
Smelley, Brad

SAN DIEGO

Gates, Antonio
Green, Ladarius
Phillips, John
Johnson, David
Flacco, Michael

SAN FRANCISCO

Davis, Vernon
McDonald, Vance
Carrier, Derek
Cleveland, Asante

SEATTLE

Miller, Zach
Willson, Luke
Helfet, Cooper
Allen, Rashaun
Presley, Morrell

TAMPA BAY

Myers, Brandon
Stocker, Luke
Seferian-Jenkins, Austin
Brate, Cameron

TENNESSEE

Walker, Delanie
Stevens, Craig
Thompson, Taylor
Schepler, Jason
Coffman, Chase

WASHINGTON

Reed, Jordan
Paulsen, Logan
Paul, Niles
Bolser, Ted


they keep saying Houser of the Cards can be had. Id like him in the passing game.
I think he stays  
djm : 8/29/2014 5:20 pm : link
because the others aren't that good. Donnell, Fells and Robinson stay. There's your holy trinity at TE.
He goes  
Spock : 8/29/2014 8:23 pm : link
.
Question  
manh george : 8/29/2014 10:27 pm : link
Grimble was waived injured. Genberally, do teams ever bring back waived injured players for the PS?
hello  
SHO'NUFF : 8/30/2014 2:49 am : link
Colt Lyerla
gone  
The Tempest : 8/30/2014 8:17 am : link
I had high hopes for him same as Reese but the time for him to step up has come and gone. I'd rather we carry another player for another position in need of depth (OL) or a better player at a skill position.
not to repeat myself or anyone else  
Blue Baller : 8/30/2014 8:18 am : link
I just hope they dont go with quantity in place of quality
if I had to bet - he's gone  
bc4life : 8/30/2014 8:26 am : link
Fells, Davis, and Donnell stick
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