TE Adrien Robinson - Does he stay or go?

Is the most complete TE. And even he's average at best.

Reese screwed this team up by basic decisions like that. He's lucky Gettleman threw him a bone last year with Beason.

Whether he goes or stays is irrelevant. His performance is right in line with the others, totally forgettable.

he's the JPP to TE!!! Reese would lose face if he cut Adrien Robinson.

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because Reese is so much smarter than everyone else.
He'll show us!

He did not start, so he is behind the starter.
He did not play in the first half, so he is behind the backup TE.
He did not play well in the game, so it is unlikely that he moved up to pass either of those guys.
He is not a demon on special teams.
So at best, he's third string on a team that should only keep two TEs.
I don't know how the Giants would justify keeping him.

I just threw up in my mouth a little

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of being a great athletic TE. The 4 seasons here he did very little and no one cried when he signed with the Vikings. He goes on to become a Pro Bowler

They both came in with the reputation for being athletic developmental projects. That's where the similarities end. Shiancoe stayed healthy and developed into a solid 2-way te with the giants. Then signed with the vikes for a decent sized contact.

Problem when it comes to waivers is Oakland is desperate for a TE and would have first claim, not to mention several other teams

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ARIZONA Carlson, John Niklas, Troy Housler, Rob Fells, Darren Hardy, Andre ATLANTA Toilolo, Levine Pascoe, Bear Shuler, Mickey Pedersen, Jacob BALTIMORE Pitta, Dennis Daniels, Owen Gillmore, Crockett Overbay, Nathan Supernaw, Phillip BUFFALO Chandler, Scott Moeaki, Tony Smith, Lee Gragg, Chris Jones, Dominique CAROLINA Olsen, Greg Dickson, Ed Williams, Brandon Brockel, Richie McNeill, Mike CHICAGO Bennett, Martellus Rosario, Dante Mulligan, Matthew Mastrud, Jeron CINCINNATI Gresham, Jermaine Smith, Alex Eifert, Tyler Charles, Orson Hewitt, Ryan CLEVELAND Cameron, Jordan Barnidge, Gary Dray, Jim Ogbuehi, Emmanuel DALLAS Witten, Jason Escobar, Gavin Hanna, James Watson, Asa DENVER Thomas, Julius Green, Virgil Tamme, Jacob Konz, Jameson Morrah, Cameron DETROIT Pettigrew, Brandon Fauria, Joseph Ebron, Eric Egnew, Michael Igwenagu, Emil Thompson, Jordan GREEN BAY Quarless, Andrew Bostick, Brandon Taylor, Ryan Rodgers, Richard Stoneburner, Jake Perillo, Justin HOUSTON Graham, Garrett Griffin, Ryan Fiedorowicz, CJ Denham, AD Potter, Zach INDIANAPOLIS Allen, Dwayne Fleener, Coby Doyle, Jack Saunders, Weslye Swoope, Erik JACKSONVILLE Lewis, Marcedes Harbor, Clay Barden, Brandon Jensen, Marcel Tialavea, DJ KANSAS CITY Fasano, Anthony Kelce, Travis Harris, Demetrius Gordon, Richard MIAMI Clay, Charles Sims, Dion Miller, Kyle Wilson, Evan Hoskins, Gator MINNESOTA Rudolph, Kyle Ellison, Rhett Reisner, Allen Ford, Chase NEW ENGLAND Gronkowski, Rob Wright, Tim Hoomanawanui, Michael Maneri, Steve NEW ORLEANS Graham, Jimmy Watson, Benjamin Hill, Josh Jacobs, Nic NEW YORK JETS Cumberland, Jeff Amaro, Jace Sudfeld, Zach Pantale, Chris OAKLAND Ausberry, David Rivera, Mychal Leonhardt, Brian Murphy, Jake Simonson, Scott PHILADELPHIA Celek, Brent Ertz, Zach Casey, James Burton, Trey PITTSBURGH Miller, Heath Spaeth, Matt Palmer, Michael Paulson, David Blanchflower, Rob Davis, Bryce ST. LOUIS Cook, Jared Kendricks, Lance Harkey, Cory Cunningham, Justice Bayer, Alex Smelley, Brad SAN DIEGO Gates, Antonio Green, Ladarius Phillips, John Johnson, David Flacco, Michael SAN FRANCISCO Davis, Vernon McDonald, Vance Carrier, Derek Cleveland, Asante SEATTLE Miller, Zach Willson, Luke Helfet, Cooper Allen, Rashaun Presley, Morrell TAMPA BAY Myers, Brandon Stocker, Luke Seferian-Jenkins, Austin Brate, Cameron TENNESSEE Walker, Delanie Stevens, Craig Thompson, Taylor Schepler, Jason Coffman, Chase WASHINGTON Reed, Jordan Paulsen, Logan Paul, Niles Bolser, Ted

...he has to go - he looks awkward,still - concentration is a question mark - injuries are an issue - I have to believe the Giants are going to be pouring over the waiver wire tomorrow for a TE - Donnell looked the best of the bunch last night (Davis needed to 'leak out' two yards,in the first quarter, for a first down,he didn't run the route beyond the first down needed (two yards) and then made a half baked attempt (didn't try to lower his shoulder to create leverage on the defender to gain the first down a yard away - JUST AWFUL).

I am going to throw my hands up. Usually, the waiver wire is not the solution, but we don't have an NFL caliber starting Tight End on this roster. Robinson is a bust.

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and another guy for the PS is what we'll go with.

That's enough young guys with "upside." Don't see us picking up a similar developmental player for the 53, but if by some miracle a vet who could be counted on to block well and run decent routes shakes loose maybe we sacrifice a guy like Robinson.

Then again, we've already got Fells and Davis so not sure there's any improvement there available either.

But I still want this guy on the team

In comment 11830953 Marty in Albany said:

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He did not start, so he is behind the starter. He did not play in the first half, so he is behind the backup TE. He did not play well in the game, so it is unlikely that he moved up to pass either of those guys. He is not a demon on special teams. So at best, he's third string on a team that should only keep two TEs. I don't know how the Giants would justify keeping him.

you can't keep 2 TEs. even if you only keep 2 of who we have now. Offense can't function with substitutions and injuries with 2 TE. they need three.

I understand the appeal of athleticism, and that may be what lets him stay. But even if he goes, any future need for someone of Robinson's ability can be obtained at no cost. That used to be one of Reese's strengths.

Kellen Davis has experience, but was horrendous in the preseason in all aspects.

but all these guys suck. I would try to find replacements for all of them.

but it's too early to throw in the towel due to his athletic ability. Ya gotta give him one more season to see if he develops into at least a serviceable TE.

... Out of a hat for tthis group.

Worst TV corps in NFL

Don't know and I'm losing my patience.

Hell he probably stays.. Whatever

frankly he looks chunky and unathletic.

I'd bury him in the old end zone next to Jimmy Hoffa. He can stay there forever.

Jerry said that based on combine results, not on-field fluidity.

It's largely irrelevant, that's how bad that group is. But he's joining Randle and Hosley on my list of most frustrating Giants.

Steelers may cut him. Te from Oregon few years ago solid receiving te

Giants will undoubtedly bring in a te that gets cut

I see donnell and Robinson sticking

And giants pickup a te that gets cut

were once on our roster. Maybe more.

I tried focusing on the TEs last night and they played decently. Some good blocks and catches but one thing stood out: they don't play with a sense of confidence.

It's a hot summer night in New Jersey. Every player is in short sleeves, sweating standing still.

Robinson is in long sleeves. I don't get it!

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It's a hot summer night in New Jersey. Every player is in short sleeves, sweating standing still. Robinson is in long sleeves. I don't get it!

I was actually wondering the same thing last night. I wonder if he has some inapprppriate tattoos on his arms or something.

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It's a hot summer night in New Jersey. Every player is in short sleeves, sweating standing still. Robinson is in long sleeves. I don't get it!

Might have fat, flabby arms.

Anyway, the fact that he's a consideration to stay highlights just how bad our TE situation is.

TE and how to use them than it does to the talent of the TE's who have been here. Perhaps TC prefers a Howard Cross to a Bavaro. Just guessing but its been a long run of poorly handling one position including shockey

the great potential that makes him a possible coach/fo heart breaker

of our poor draft picks.

burns on his arms. With the materials they use, it really doesn't make you much hotter.

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Unless they pick up another TE.

He's yet another failed mid-round draft choice, but there's not going to be anybody better available to replace him.

So it doesn't matter if he stays or goes. Just doesn't matter.

Regardless of what they do short of a major trade for a proven player, which won't happen for a lot of reasons, they will have nothing at the TE position again this season.

All that does matter is that they don't keep 4 TEs because none of them are worth a damn. They need to pick 3, any 3, and go with them.

And I still think Bear Pascoe, who they let walk, was better than any of these guys they have now.

ie, one of the first cuts if we sign someone else at any position. My gut also tells me that in crunch time Robinson would come up small.

I'd look Reese square in the eye and say "are we done with your F%&KING project???" and "oh and you better get me a TE in the next draft!"

Think it will be more about politics than potential.

Donnell - Same developmental type of player. Appears more fluid in movement, but does not block well.

Davis - Next to worthless and nothing to develop. To me cutting Davis and keeping Robinson is a no-brainer.

In comment 11830953 Marty in Albany said:

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He did not start, so he is behind the starter. He did not play in the first half, so he is behind the backup TE. He did not play well in the game, so it is unlikely that he moved up to pass either of those guys. He is not a demon on special teams. So at best, he's third string on a team that should only keep two TEs. I don't know how the Giants would justify keeping him.

I think no TE caught a pass in the pats game so thats not proving anything but they all suck. he is the best of the worst though in the passing game

In comment 11830986 Defenderdawg said:

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Problem when it comes to waivers is Oakland is desperate for a TE and would have first claim, not to mention several other teams Code: ARIZONA Carlson, John Niklas, Troy Housler, Rob Fells, Darren Hardy, Andre ATLANTA Toilolo, Levine Pascoe, Bear Shuler, Mickey Pedersen, Jacob BALTIMORE Pitta, Dennis Daniels, Owen Gillmore, Crockett Overbay, Nathan Supernaw, Phillip BUFFALO Chandler, Scott Moeaki, Tony Smith, Lee Gragg, Chris Jones, Dominique CAROLINA Olsen, Greg Dickson, Ed Williams, Brandon Brockel, Richie McNeill, Mike CHICAGO Bennett, Martellus Rosario, Dante Mulligan, Matthew Mastrud, Jeron CINCINNATI Gresham, Jermaine Smith, Alex Eifert, Tyler Charles, Orson Hewitt, Ryan CLEVELAND Cameron, Jordan Barnidge, Gary Dray, Jim Ogbuehi, Emmanuel DALLAS Witten, Jason Escobar, Gavin Hanna, James Watson, Asa DENVER Thomas, Julius Green, Virgil Tamme, Jacob Konz, Jameson Morrah, Cameron DETROIT Pettigrew, Brandon Fauria, Joseph Ebron, Eric Egnew, Michael Igwenagu, Emil Thompson, Jordan GREEN BAY Quarless, Andrew Bostick, Brandon Taylor, Ryan Rodgers, Richard Stoneburner, Jake Perillo, Justin HOUSTON Graham, Garrett Griffin, Ryan Fiedorowicz, CJ Denham, AD Potter, Zach INDIANAPOLIS Allen, Dwayne Fleener, Coby Doyle, Jack Saunders, Weslye Swoope, Erik JACKSONVILLE Lewis, Marcedes Harbor, Clay Barden, Brandon Jensen, Marcel Tialavea, DJ KANSAS CITY Fasano, Anthony Kelce, Travis Harris, Demetrius Gordon, Richard MIAMI Clay, Charles Sims, Dion Miller, Kyle Wilson, Evan Hoskins, Gator MINNESOTA Rudolph, Kyle Ellison, Rhett Reisner, Allen Ford, Chase NEW ENGLAND Gronkowski, Rob Wright, Tim Hoomanawanui, Michael Maneri, Steve NEW ORLEANS Graham, Jimmy Watson, Benjamin Hill, Josh Jacobs, Nic NEW YORK JETS Cumberland, Jeff Amaro, Jace Sudfeld, Zach Pantale, Chris OAKLAND Ausberry, David Rivera, Mychal Leonhardt, Brian Murphy, Jake Simonson, Scott PHILADELPHIA Celek, Brent Ertz, Zach Casey, James Burton, Trey PITTSBURGH Miller, Heath Spaeth, Matt Palmer, Michael Paulson, David Blanchflower, Rob Davis, Bryce ST. LOUIS Cook, Jared Kendricks, Lance Harkey, Cory Cunningham, Justice Bayer, Alex Smelley, Brad SAN DIEGO Gates, Antonio Green, Ladarius Phillips, John Johnson, David Flacco, Michael SAN FRANCISCO Davis, Vernon McDonald, Vance Carrier, Derek Cleveland, Asante SEATTLE Miller, Zach Willson, Luke Helfet, Cooper Allen, Rashaun Presley, Morrell TAMPA BAY Myers, Brandon Stocker, Luke Seferian-Jenkins, Austin Brate, Cameron TENNESSEE Walker, Delanie Stevens, Craig Thompson, Taylor Schepler, Jason Coffman, Chase WASHINGTON Reed, Jordan Paulsen, Logan Paul, Niles Bolser, Ted

they keep saying Houser of the Cards can be had. Id like him in the passing game.

because the others aren't that good. Donnell, Fells and Robinson stay. There's your holy trinity at TE.

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Grimble was waived injured. Genberally, do teams ever bring back waived injured players for the PS?

Colt Lyerla

I had high hopes for him same as Reese but the time for him to step up has come and gone. I'd rather we carry another player for another position in need of depth (OL) or a better player at a skill position.

I just hope they dont go with quantity in place of quality

Fells, Davis, and Donnell stick