Media starting to really turn on Manning?

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If Eli starts slow, people will start calling for Nassib pretty fast.. but I don't think that's really fair. And I've been harsher on Eli this preseason than I've ever been.

It's a new offense, he deserves the year unless it's just so bad that it's not even functional.

If he has a repeat of last year, then we probably have to seriously consider giving Nassib a shot or look into other options next offseason. But for now, it's got to be Eli's job for the entire season. He's earned that much. Regardless of what impatient fans believe.

So many of them act like it's a horrible inconvenience to cover the Giants and do their jobs.

Still others can't see past their own noses as to what is really happening on the field.

I think its getting worse....more reactive. People don't care about the 2 Super Bowls....people are wearing thin. And rightfully so.

In comment 11831125 BrettNYG10 said:

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Absolutely how it is but yet the media goes out of their way to glorify Romo regardless of how pathetic his performances are.

Incidentally, I wonder how long it will be before Cowboy fans start calling Romo Nomo? That said, Romo will likely look good this year but only because he is playing behind a very good O-line.

Though, 2014 is an important year for Eli. In 2012 it was a reported tired arm and miscommunication, and in 2013 it was the o-line--and again more miscommunication.

I'm already expecting the offense to look like a shit-show for a while and I have the patience. The media and some fans....nope.

I honestly feel that the people that will be calling for Nassib (and you know there will be with the first bad throw) need a cup of acid thrown in their face...but that's just me.

In comment 11831125 BrettNYG10 said:

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Yup

Eli still makes rookie mistakes....he doesn't protect the ball well. 11 years into the league....and he still has 1-2 head scratching plays....it seems like every game. (Not really last night). I love the guy...but he's got to get his head out of his ass.

When he does well the begrudge him any worthy praise. Then they seem to go all out to slam him at the first opportunity. It really makes zero sense. He is a model teammate as well as an excellent rep for the team. He gives to charities and never speaks ill of anyone.

I think much boils down to the fact that he proved the so-called "experts" wrong twice, and they can't stand that

Ryan Nassib.

the Giants offense goes from where it has been in the preseason to where it needs to be in the next 2 games. Eli will take much of the fall for that. But just in case we go 0-2 people will quickly compare this year to last and it will get very ugly for him with the fans and media.

the talking heads need news to use. Picking on one of teh guys from the largest market seems like a good way to drum up attention.

It doesn't make sense, but you are talking about a group of people who will extol the greatness of guys like Josh Freeman, Mark Sanchez or Kevin Kolb. What are those guys doing?

Freeman, Bradford and Sanchez would all be better QB's than Manning.

I just don't understand what some people see.

he looks like a fish outta water but lets give him some time - his laconic manner aside hes a very sharp guy

In comment 11831167 FatMan in Charlotte said:

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the talking heads need news to use. Picking on one of teh guys from the largest market seems like a good way to drum up attention. It doesn't make sense, but you are talking about a group of people who will extol the greatness of guys like Josh Freeman, Mark Sanchez or Kevin Kolb. What are those guys doing?

The SANCHIZE!!!

Play better.

its worked out OK so far for his career...

Cmp%: 59.9%
Yds: 3948
TDs: 26
Int: 15
Y/A: 7.4

Was 2012 a year of "terrible" play from Eli? Especially in light of the line coming apart at the seams?

And then Connor's comments this a.m....pretty scathing.
Clearly Eli isn't getting a pass anymore....and I'm ok with it. If he's doesn't turn it around in the 1st 2-3 games....how long before fans/media start calling for Nassib?
Thoughts?

That would definitely help.

In comment 11831215 armsteadeatslittlekids said:

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Cmp%: 59.9% Yds: 3948 TDs: 26 Int: 15 Y/A: 7.4 Was 2012 a year of "terrible" play from Eli? Especially in light of the line coming apart at the seams?

Very similar to Brady last season. Granted their offseason last year was brutal, but shit happens I guess. I'd love Eli to have had Brady's O-line last year, even with their depleted offensive weapons.

when has the "media" ever been fair with him..

The guy has been bad for one season...2013...and this was with the worst OL in the NFL and no running game..

Yet people like you say "but Eli has to play better"...no QB in the league would have succeeded last year with this supporting cast..

And my guess if we could see an archive of your posting history we would see you wanting to to get rid of him after 2006...silent after 2007 then repeat in 2010 and now after a year where no one could succeed you are on him again..

who thought Washington got a steal when they traded for McNabb. NFL stands for Not For Long and if you evaluate talent with your heart instead of your head, you end up with 18 years of lousy football. I won't panic over a pathetic pre-season but if this continues into the regular season, the two Superbowl MVPs should mean absolutely nothing.

either.

just wait to see the avalanche sure to come if Eli and the Offense shit the bed on MNF.

the most basic pass plays. Of course he's going to take hits for missing on those. He had zero or one completion in 3 of his 5 appearances this pre season. You think people are going to be singing his praises?

has always seen Manning from a perspective of the glass is half empty. Only grudgingly did he get credit when he won Super Bowls. But the collateral from those seasons never lasted as long as it did for someone like Brady, Brees, or Eli's brother.

he has given them plenty of ammunition to shoot him down....

A fast start, and all is forgotten....

In comment 11831227 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 11831215 armsteadeatslittlekids said: Quote: Cmp%: 59.9% Yds: 3948 TDs: 26 Int: 15 Y/A: 7.4 Was 2012 a year of "terrible" play from Eli? Especially in light of the line coming apart at the seams? Very similar to Brady last season. Granted their offseason last year was brutal, but shit happens I guess. I'd love Eli to have had Brady's O-line last year, even with their depleted offensive weapons.

As if the Giants weapons in 2013 and now are even remotely good.

The haven't helped him out at all. Wrong routes dropped balls, they haven't looked good. O Line hasn't helped much either.

The offense has been bad for about 1.5 years. And for all but ONE drive this pre-season, the starting offense looked terrible.

preseason for anyone to say they are making progress. Thats just a fact. All we real fans can do is hope for the best. My feeling is the season will start slow and then get better. Hopefully we dont go 0-4 to start. If we can go 2-2 while working out the kinks Ill be happy for the time being.

And are immediately successful. Eli is a high IQ guy so I'm not buying this giving him a pass this season to learn the new offense. We aren't talking about Vince Young here.

But the offense seems to pick up the pace when he is in there

Well, we still haven't played a full game that matters. I'd need to see at least a couple of regular season games full of ineptitude before I decide that Eli can't wing it anymore.

There are plenty of warning signs but putting too much stock in pre-season can be dangerous.

Some criticism is unfair, some is not. He has not played well for whatever reason. He has in the past been erratic but always clutch when needed. But the bottom line is Eli is one of the highest paid players in the NFL and his salary does not go away when he throws an interception or makes a bad decision. So yes some reporters are harsh, but which one has actually misstated the manner in which Eli has played this year. It will work out but it is ridiculous to overreact to preseason play by Eli or to preseason reporting about his play.

At some point people have to stop blaming everyone but him

In comment 11831362 Rflairr said:

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At some point people have to stop blaming everyone but him

He does need to do better. But can you tell me what QB would have done well last year with our O-line and a WR who gave up?

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Remember when EVERY member of the media said that Nassib was terrible, mistaken draft choice, may not make the team blah, blah. Now EVERY writer says he plays well, best QB in that game blah, blah.

Very little analysis or originality from any of the beat writers, especially when they quote PFF statistics all the time. Statistics are fine (even though Mark Twain said, "There are lies, then damned lies and then statistics") but how about telling us what caused a positive or negative PFF statistic.

is that the team doesn't actually pay attention to all of the ridiculous BS that people shout about on talk radio or write in the papers. They don't pay any mind to the rabble and thank goodness they don't. THe media and fans can lose their shit daily about Eli and in the end guess what....

Eli is the QB. Will be the QB. Is the best QB the team has ever had. And there ain't a damn thing that any dopey fan or media member can do about it.

The fans can dominate the airwaves with their insane opinions and the media can force feed storylines down everyone's throat and in the end the organization knows enough to laugh it off, shrug it off, and worry about winning titles with this QB. There probably isn't anyone who knows better than the Giants coach and front office, how absurd it all sounds. They can think he can play better, they can think he had a bad throw or a bad game or even a lackluster season but there isn't one moment of thought that Eli Manning shouldn't be the quarterback. And this fan is thankful for that. Kick and scream all you want, but too bad to all the suckers who don't seem to get it.

The offense just stopped working halfway through the season. He wasn't bad, just completely ineffective.

The media hasn't been in Eli's corner since the '04 draft.

If he's on his way downhill, so be it. He did what he was brought here to do and he did it in grand fashion. I love the kid, warts and all.

always seem proud to be contrarian. Eli could have won three Super Bowls and they'd still be anti-Eli. Why? Because it's cooler to be against something than for it. Being against something shows you're "really thinking about stuff," because it suggests that you're more insightful. It's an ego thing. Also, they have to make a splash. There's so much competition. Do you stand out if you praise someone? Hardly -- unless it's some obscure player who's showing something -- then you're the explorer who may have found the fountain of youth. Clever you. So they put down in any way they can.

He's provided them many thrills. But why should media members refrain from reporting his drop off in performance?

That's news to me...

In comment 11831146 yankees78 said:

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I'm already expecting the offense to look like a shit-show for a while and I have the patience. The media and some fans....nope. I honestly feel that the people that will be calling for Nassib (and you know there will be with the first bad throw) need a cup of acid thrown in their face...but that's just me.

It's not just you.