Media starting to really turn on Manning?

In comment 11832650 SethFromAstoria said:

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is that the team doesn't actually pay attention to all of the ridiculous BS that people shout about on talk radio or write in the papers. They don't pay any mind to the rabble and thank goodness they don't. THe media and fans can lose their shit daily about Eli and in the end guess what.... Eli is the QB. Will be the QB. Is the best QB the team has ever had. And there ain't a damn thing that any dopey fan or media member can do about it. The fans can dominate the airwaves with their insane opinions and the media can force feed storylines down everyone's throat and in the end the organization knows enough to laugh it off, shrug it off, and worry about winning titles with this QB. There probably isn't anyone who knows better than the Giants coach and front office, how absurd it all sounds. They can think he can play better, they can think he had a bad throw or a bad game or even a lackluster season but there isn't one moment of thought that Eli Manning shouldn't be the quarterback. And this fan is thankful for that. Kick and scream all you want, but too bad to all the suckers who don't seem to get it.

Golf clap.

I think that could be said to many Qb's if you want to see it that way. Why didn't Russel Wilson win the MVP of the SB with a 123 rating far better then anything Eli did in his MVP wins . Did the media treat him unfairly?

knew this past SB was one of the few when you absolutely couldn't justify giving it to a QB, with how it played out.

Eli was great but has not been the past few years. He absolutely stunk last year and this preseason. Why should I feel good about him this year? We better not resign him and add years and we better not trade Nassib, our future. If we do either, we may regret either or both.

was treated unfairly beacuse he did have the 8th highest SB QB rating ever. Maybe he didn't have the Manning star power. Maybe a defensive player stood out and was worthy of the award much like the Giants 2007 team defense that held the Patriot scoring machine in check in 07. Can't give the MVP to the Giant team D or to the DL who did their job above and beyond the call of duty. Eli was the golden boy and the media darling

The Giants defense was huge, but they still needed him to step up to win.

I think highly of Wilson in general, but on that night, you could honestly have replaced Wilson's superior passer rating performance with direct snapping to a RB and the Seahawks still win that game probably pretty easily.

I'm not even someone who whines about how unfair or mean the media is to the Giants/Eli, but I wonder what you've been sipping on to ever come to the conclusion that he's ever been some "media darling" or golden boy.

with Eli. They compliment him regarding his clutch play. The announcers talk about his come from behind 4th quarter victories as if they are recent. I think stoking athletes is the norm rather then being critical. They don't harp on Eli's shortcomings

Regarding the 07 SB rarely a mention is made of how incredible the Giants defense had to be to stone an offense that routinely put up 50 point games. If they had done their usual then the 17 points the Giants managed would have put then solidly in the loss column. That was what was what stood out but is burried under Eli and his MVP. Kind of like WILLIS Reed getting the MVP award while Clyde Frasier is putting up triple doubles

Last minute comebacks, plain and simple. Although he did have fortune smiling down upon him on both drives.

we all know our defense won both of those games.

Let's review the first SB win. Eli should have thrown an interception in that final series, that Patriot player missed an easy one, and then the long one that was miracously caught could easily have been a disaster. Obviously, if the interception was made, us scoring 13 points doesn't cut it.

The second SB was really about one key play. Yes it was a fantastic throw and catch. Without that drive, again, giants could have ruined a beautifully played game by our DEFENSE.

Eli has benefitted from great, and I mean great defensive play in both super bowls. Good thing, because we weren't winning any shoot outs.

I'm so grateful for two SB wins, he has a five year pass with me.m

If you did, I'm finding it very hard to take your opinion seriously, since you can't remember the player (Samuel) or the fact that it was off his fingertips at full extension, nothing near an 'easy interception'.

Manning took the 2011 season and ran away with it. We don't go to or win the SB without him. The D did a great job in XLII, but he kept us in it with a gimpy Burress and Tyree taking snaps that counted. To write it up as anything less is revisionist history.

The problem is that Eli hasn't been seen in almost two years, and now it's a question of whether or not we'll ever see him again.

Sorry for these statins that I take, one of the side effects is memory loss or confusion, and I think that fits me. I thought it was Samuel, but wasn't 100 percent.

However, I think even you have to admit, if Samuel gets that pic, Eli gets no love for that game.

I know he was great in the prior playoff games, but we weren't talking about that. Stay focused (subject at hand-only super bowls) grasshopper.

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Problem is, it wasn't. It wasn't even a close one. And if it was, Samuel would have a promising career in basketball following that one.

And that defense was ranked #4 that season. Burress had hurt himself and was limited. Smith was still green, Toomer over the hill. Eli took those guys and kept us within striking distance the entire game, driving it home when it counted.

2 SB MVPs, and both of them well deserved. I wouldn't have lost any sleep if they had given it to Tuck, but both were equally deserving.

Whatever Eli's problem is, it's here and now. His legacy, his impact, his stats over the course of his tenure here are indisputable. The guy has done a great job, now it's time to see if he can keep performing or if his window has closed.

In comment 11833526 Spock said:

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Only if you don't speak English. He's at peak height having jumped, his arms stretched out, and the ball bounces off the top of his fingertips.

If you consider that an 'easy interception', I'd wonder if you've ever actually watched an American football game.

I have no desire to convince you to interpret that otherwise than how you see it. It's cool, but I'm not signing your petition.

In comment 11833538 Spock said:

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I have no desire to convince you to interpret that otherwise than how you see it. It's cool, but I'm not signing your petition.

That's fine. If you think that was an easy INT, I'm not sure signing your name is really in your wheelhouse anyway.

I say we go back in time and watch every single play of every single Super Bowl and find plays that could have changed history. Would be fun. Or not.

While everyone looks at that Samuel missed INT, does anyone go back and look at Giants plays that could have made these games easier to win? Plays that the Giants just missed and would have made winning less of a struggle? I doubt it highly. Selective reasoning.

When Eli escaped the rush, rolled left, and just missed an open plax that would have been a huge gain and potentially a 17-7 Giants lead in the 4th?

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The media JoefromPa : 8/29/2014 10:45 am : link : reply has always seen Manning from a perspective of the glass is half empty. Only grudgingly did he get credit when he won Super Bowls. But the collateral from those seasons never lasted as long as it did for someone like Brady, Brees, or Eli's brother.

So Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and Tom Brady are media darlings because of "collateral" they've gotten from their SB victories? LOL