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Kim Jones: Geoff Schwartz likely to short term IR (week 9)

Dannyc58 : 8/29/2014 11:09 am
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Kimberly JonesVerified account @KimJonesSports

As NYG cut roster to 53, I'm told it's likely -- but not certain -- they'll use short term IR on Geoff Schwartz. If so, return = Week 9.

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geez too long  
CruzShip52 : 8/29/2014 11:09 am : link
o well
Meh, alright  
Mike in Long Beach : 8/29/2014 11:10 am : link
Better than the whole year I guess. Jerry and Richburg have looked pretty good, particularly in run blocking.

Onward.
makes sense  
Andy in Boston : 8/29/2014 11:15 am : link
frees up another roster spot.....short term doesn't count against the 53, right?
Short term DOES count against the 53 temporarily  
DavidinBMNY : 8/29/2014 11:18 am : link
You have to be on the 53 to get to short term. Then once on Short term you don't count. Read this is how they activate Beason :-).
I don't know if it's worth spending it on him.  
Matt M. : 8/29/2014 11:19 am : link
At this point, he shouldn't return as a starter anyway, whether it's in a few weeks or 10 weeks.
Who would have ever imagined  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 8/29/2014 11:21 am : link
that I'd be pining for the return of a 2013 David Diehl.
For a little while, I was delusional enough to believe (although not confidently) that the front office knows what they're doing.

I'm officially in the "There is no way we don't suck ass this year" camp.

How can we not  
phil fromphilly : 8/29/2014 11:51 am : link
be discussing a trade for Alex Boone? This is pretty much a do or die year for TC, Eli and this entire coaching staff. Our O-line is clearly a huge problem and there is at least one guy available who could immediately and significantly upgrade it. How can JR not be on the phone working out a deal?

If we go into the season with what we currently have I will absolutely have lost faith in the front office's ability to properly field a team. Right now, in Reese I do NOT trust.
Matt  
nyynyg : 8/29/2014 11:53 am : link
well

a) we spent a bunch of money and I guess are hoping that we are at some point going to get the player we paid for.. or that TC will play him where he was playing before

b) at the mid way point, who knows what our OL situation may be. injuries happen and depth could be critical for the rest of the way

seems a decent choice for a position of need.
RE: How can we not  
nygiants16 : 8/29/2014 11:55 am : link
In comment 11831444 phil fromphilly said:
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be discussing a trade for Alex Boone? This is pretty much a do or die year for TC, Eli and this entire coaching staff. Our O-line is clearly a huge problem and there is at least one guy available who could immediately and significantly upgrade it. How can JR not be on the phone working out a deal?

If we go into the season with what we currently have I will absolutely have lost faith in the front office's ability to properly field a team. Right now, in Reese I do NOT trust.


How can you possibly no they have not talked?..How do you know that Reese did not call the niners? maybe he did and they said 1st round pick or no deal and reese said ok thanks but no thanks....

i hate when fans do this and just assume a team is not calling around trying to improve...i see it on draft day all the time where a team makes a trade back for a good haul and everyone freaks out because the giants didnt make the same trade..
RE: How can we not  
M in CT : 8/29/2014 11:56 am : link
In comment 11831444 phil fromphilly said:
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be discussing a trade for Alex Boone? This is pretty much a do or die year for TC, Eli and this entire coaching staff. Our O-line is clearly a huge problem and there is at least one guy available who could immediately and significantly upgrade it. How can JR not be on the phone working out a deal?

If we go into the season with what we currently have I will absolutely have lost faith in the front office's ability to properly field a team. Right now, in Reese I do NOT trust.


how do you know that Reese has not already inquired? (you don't)

lots of reports indicate that the 9ers want a 1st or 2nd round pick for the guy. isn't it possible that Reese made a phone call, determined the asking price was too high and said "no thanks"?
ha, damn  
M in CT : 8/29/2014 11:56 am : link
nygiants16 beat me to it.
well,  
aquidneck : 8/29/2014 12:04 pm : link
with Herman coming back game 5 and Schwartz game 9, this could allow us to only carry 8 OL. Give the 8 guys we have a chance to gel and keep a couple of developmental guys on the PS.

If there's an available vet out there better than what we have we could him pick him up after week one when the contracts aren't guaranteed, but I doubt you'll find one. As it is, we're already likely to get rid of two (and possibly all three) of Brewer, Brown and Reynolds. Hell, even Mosley is on the bubble.

All four of those guys started NFL games last season. What credentials will the cut player come with?
Just as I suggested they would  
ZogZerg : 8/29/2014 12:17 pm : link
These injuries always seem to take longer to heal. Why waste a roster spot for say 7 weeks, especially early in the season when they are still figuring things out.
we don't know that  
phil fromphilly : 8/29/2014 12:37 pm : link
But we do know that a 2nd round pick is acceptable when you potentially talking about a 3rd straight losing season and perhaps flushing the coaching staff out because of it. Eli isn't getting any younger and you would think JR would get that. If he did, Boone would have been brought in by now. At this point he would have minimal time to learn the blocking schemes and develop chemistry with the other linemen.
Probably go with 9 OL now  
jeff57 : 8/29/2014 12:44 pm : link
Brewer, Gaines, Mosley and Reynolds backing up the starters.

Might save a spot for a fifth RB.
I am just  
phil fromphilly : 8/29/2014 12:53 pm : link
frustrated by the front office's lack of a sense of urgency. I think TC is too but isn't going to throw anyone under the bus. He's too classy for that.

If he winds up out of a job at the end of the season because of it I suspect he will be more vocal about it.
so much for a short term injury  
CGiants07 : 8/29/2014 12:58 pm : link
weren't reports 2-3 games maybe a month like 2 or 3 days ago?
Go ahead and dump on me  
old man : 8/29/2014 1:24 pm : link
but at least roll the thinking around a little first, then feast if you choose.
We want to keep Eli,or whomever may be QB, upright, healthy, and alive; this OL has a 51% chance of not doing that.
If VC is our 'only receiver', and with this OL, he may not catch many passes this year anyway.
Why not a trade: VC for Boone. Yes it adds 1 more weapon to SF, but it gives SF an opportuntiy to dump a digruntled play, and more important the Giants a LG who can help Beatty, and Walton. Then when GS comes back, since he really seemed ineffective at LG anyway, put him at RG to help Pugh and Walton(not dumping on Walton in either case, just getting him help on both sides). The run game improves with power running, the pass game at least keeps Eli upright and with a little more time, and hopefully the receivers grow into the position/new O.
If WestonR is very effective at RG, it'll give TC some playing flexibilty.And since the Giants like verstaile OL, in case of in season injuries the 6 pack of Beatty, Boone Walton,Richburg, Pugh and Schwartz, plus Mosley, Jerry and_____ allow for versatility/creativity without going to the likes of a Brewer,Brown, or Herman.
Yes, I hate to offer up Cruz, but he's our only marketable asset. It's either that,or our QBs rollout every play to avoid death, or hope the OL comes around, or team potentially really sucks.
Have fun.
don't panic  
aquidneck : 8/29/2014 1:40 pm : link
Giants are more talented at OL than meets the eye. Need time playing together, but league average is not an unreasonable expectation.

Trading Cruz or a high draft choice for someone who hasn't practiced all summer and who doesnt know our system will do more harm than good.
old man is right  
Dave : 8/29/2014 3:45 pm : link
and then JJ can play his natural slot position :)

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