NFT: Fantasy Football Thread 8/29

but in a standard league I would rather have gone heavy on better RBs than WRs. You need a 3rd RB that you could at least consider for a Flex option/bye week fill-in, and I don't think Deangelo is that guy. I'd try to deal one of Floyd/Crabtree/Roddy for the best starting RB I could get.

Yea, I looked for RBS. I took Ball in the first. With my pick in the second best back available was Stacy, I took Dez and couldnt believe it 14 picks later Stacy was still there. I had to take him. Then the rest of the draft there was a huge dropoff in RB talent compared to other positions. The RB depth this year is terrible. So I took a handful of high upside backups hoping that an injury or ineffectiveness will propel one or two of them to a starter. Tate carrying a full load wont last, and Jennings also has a history of injury. I wouldnt be Surprised if both Williams and West are starting backs by mid season.

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Is simply a lottery ticket, if Charles gets hurt Davis has legitimate top 5 potential every week. I will hold on to him and see what happens. RB has tons of injuries every year so you never know. Plus RBS always come up on Waivers and I have a pretty good waiver so I should be able to get help there as well. The 8 pick is the worst and I'm happy with what I ended up with given the limitations of that pick.

He did most of his damage last year with a lot of touches. He isn't going to get the same amount of touches this year with Cunningham looking better than him. I am actually a fan of Montee Ball although others will rip you for taking him in the first. Your RBs need help bad. IMO, you have one starter of that group in Ball. After that Stacy could lose his job this year and then your next back is a guy who is on the Panthers. I don't like that at all. I'm not even high on Cameron this year because of Norv's departure. If you are going anywhere this year it will be on the backs of your WRs and how you attack the waiver wire. Your QBs are good too. Romo should have a huge year.

kind of sucks you have cowboys, better be a 500-1000 dollar buy in league, i couldnt root for a cowboy for any less than that

I would see if Ingram is still available. He has much more upside than a lot of the backs you have. He has looked awesome this preseason. I never like drafting Saints backs but as a last round guy he is totally worth it.

this is a reason why I avoid RB early. There are going to be a bunch of new starters by the first bye weeks or sooner. Cunningham could be that guy, and you won't care either way if its him or Stacy.

With the Jags he was IR'd with a knee injury one year(beginning of year) IR'd another season at the end of the year with a shoulder injury after being out for some games with a concussion. He has had a Concussion with Oak last season.

People love him but Tate has ran well and then Crowell tore it up last night as well. West hasn't done much in the games. I heard he has looked really good in practice but come game time it hasn't translated. Maybe that is because who he is playing with.

I believe Ingram went in the 12th

but I think Hillman might have enough value as a handcuff especially in that Broncos offense. You don't need a ton of backs. You just need quality ones. I would add Cunningham like he said as well as Hillman. That way you can secure yourself two starters every week. And that is all you need other than a bye week fill in because your WRs are going to carry that team.

the shoulder thing wasn't that serious, he only went on IR b/c it was at the end of the season so they freed up the roster spot since he was going to miss the last couple of games no matter what. I wouldn't consider him any more of an injury risk than other RBs.

Ball, Stacy, Cameron, Cincy D and Floyd are all on Byes, so I don't think I can pick up the handcuffs for the two backs and be able to field a team in week 4 with only 6 bench spots. Maybe Drop Ben and possibly Deangelo.

In comment 11831439 mik999999 said:

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Ball, Stacy, Cameron, Cincy D and Floyd are all on Byes, so I don't think I can pick up the handcuffs for the two backs and be able to field a team in week 4 with only 6 bench spots. Maybe Drop Ben and possibly Deangelo.

Mike, that is one week that you just say fuck it and roll with it. No point in damaging the big picture of your team for one week imo. I'd rather have all my bye weeks during one week so that my team is at full strength for the rest of the time.

In comment 11831439 mik999999 said:

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Ball, Stacy, Cameron, Cincy D and Floyd are all on Byes, so I don't think I can pick up the handcuffs for the two backs and be able to field a team in week 4 with only 6 bench spots. Maybe Drop Ben and possibly Deangelo.

Ask yourself this question; If Ball goes down are you comfortable starting Stacy and Williams or would you be more comfortable starting Hillman and Stacy? I think the answer is easy.

And if Stacy goes down or loses his job to Cunningham are you comfortable starting Ball and Williams?

i'm not against handcuffing, i just find the label to mean something different that I classify it as. Guys like Cunningham and and Hillman will have roles in their offenses. I just wouldn't take them earlier because of it (that's what I see happen with the "handcuff label").

I try to get as many starters, or guys who will get playing time as possible. I'm against stashing a guy you will never play unless of a major injury. More often than not its a waste of a roster spot (like whoever ends up being the RB2 on Minnesota).

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In comment 11831456 UConn4523 said:

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i'm not against handcuffing, i just find the label to mean something different that I classify it as. Guys like Cunningham and and Hillman will have roles in their offenses. I just wouldn't take them earlier because of it (that's what I see happen with the "handcuff label"). I try to get as many starters, or guys who will get playing time as possible. I'm against stashing a guy you will never play unless of a major injury. More often than not its a waste of a roster spot (like whoever ends up being the RB2 on Minnesota).

I actually like McKinnon. They are using him all over the field. He returns, he runs out of the backfield and they have him split out wide. I think it was McKinnon that was on a go route when Rudolph caught that long crossing route that he turned into a TD. I think it was McKinnon with the block that freed him up for the TD. I know he is a rookie but if anything happened to Peterson I think McKinnon would be very valuable.

and he said they thought he would be their third down back, I think.

Here is him running a go route on the outside and then helping Rudolph score. He is number 31.
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The big 4 RBs go in order. I'm set with picking up Wilson/Cutler/Rivers/Dalton late in the draft. What do you do?

A) Lacy (Go BPA of RB/WR in 2nd. Maybe Bernard, Ball, AJ, Marshall)

B) Lynch (Go BPA of RB/WR in 2nd. Same players above.)

C) Calvin (Go BPA RB in 2nd)

D) Graham (Go BPA RB in 2nd) If not Graham here I'm picking up Olson, Reed, Pitta after the other top TE are gone, which I anticipate around Rd 10.

I'm leaning towards Graham due to the massive drop off at the TE position. What would you do?

In comment 11831501 Miami_JintsFan said:

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The big 4 RBs go in order. I'm set with picking up Wilson/Cutler/Rivers/Dalton late in the draft. What do you do? A) Lacy (Go BPA of RB/WR in 2nd. Maybe Bernard, Ball, AJ, Marshall) B) Lynch (Go BPA of RB/WR in 2nd. Same players above.) C) Calvin (Go BPA RB in 2nd) D) Graham (Go BPA RB in 2nd) If not Graham here I'm picking up Olson, Reed, Pitta after the other top TE are gone, which I anticipate around Rd 10. I'm leaning towards Graham due to the massive drop off at the TE position. What would you do?

What site do you use and is it a PPR league?

RBs are harder to come by and he is a stud

Also, with the Graham pick Rd1 and BPA RB Rd2, I can still get a Jeffrey in Rd3 and a Garcon/Fitz Rd4.

I think its to early for Lacy and Lynch...even if it is not a PPR league...

and in teh 2nd you dont necassarily have to go RB...if Marshall or Julio slip to you in the second you can have a sick WR tandem then go Ellington in the 3rd and Jennings in the 4th or take Thomas or Gronk if they are there in the 4th and go Jennings in the 5th...

around 15 you can get Bernard/Brees/Rodgers/AJ Green

around 25 you can get Brown/Nelson/Jeffery/Cobb/Allen Ellington

There are some TEs I like later like Rudolph who seems to be going around the 8th round. If you start off Like Calvin/Bernard/Nelson that would be really nice.

5th pick is such a weird spot.. I'd consider Lynch there but I think taking he or Lacy there isn't getting full value out of the pick.

I think as soon as the top 4 RB's are off the board, I start looking at Calvin, Graham and Peyton.

Hopefully 1 of the first 4 picks takes Manning and I get to scoop up one of the big 4.

How do you guys rate these bottom tier 2 RBs?
Foster
Morris
L. Bell
Ellington

or Calvin Johnson there with the 5th pick.

on the way back at 15 you get Jordy Nelson (if you got Graham) and then Arian Foster or Doug Martin a 25.

#5 pick sucks.

I cannot trust him. I'd go Morris, Ellington, Bell just because Blount is going to steal carries and TDs from Bell. Ellington seems like the only guy in ARI and they want to get him the ball a ton. But since it is a non PPR league I don't know. I would definitely have Morris first though.

In comment 11831617 Miami_JintsFan said:

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Hopefully 1 of the first 4 picks takes Manning and I get to scoop up one of the big 4. How do you guys rate these bottom tier 2 RBs? Foster Morris L. Bell Ellington

Bell
Ellington/Morris
Foster

I do my rankings by rounds

Bell is still going to be the workhorse even with Blount there..2nd round grade for me

Ellington and Morris are both in the same round for me...both have 3rd round grades..Ellington could really be a steal for someone in the 3rd round he has the potential to be a stud

Morris i have 3rd round i just dont know with him...he is good will get TDs but with RG3's problems i dont know how open the offense will be for him...

Foster i have a 3rd but its late 3rd and its because of injury history...bad backs just dont go away they can flare up at anytime...he always seems to get a hamstring pull in the preseason so we will see with him but i dont trust him..

Hypothetical.. say you go Graham with the 5th pick and Brees or Rodgers are there at 15. Do you pull the trigger or do you feel like you can't go all the way to 25 without a RB or WR?

If Brees was there at 15, I'd be awfully tempted to take him. I'd even be tempted to take Rodgers.

If I could get Antonio Brown at 25 and then go RB at 35 it would probably work out.

In comment 11831642 arcarsenal said:

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Hypothetical.. say you go Graham with the 5th pick and Brees or Rodgers are there at 15. Do you pull the trigger or do you feel like you can't go all the way to 25 without a RB or WR? If Brees was there at 15, I'd be awfully tempted to take him. I'd even be tempted to take Rodgers. If I could get Antonio Brown at 25 and then go RB at 35 it would probably work out.

Arc, it depends. I am on both sides. I can very easily wait on a QB but I can also take one too. I think Rodgers does better than Brees this year. But that is like picking between two hot girls where one has brown hair and the other blonde. It is all just a preference. The thing I have learned with Rodgers from owning him for years is that he doesn't seem to get you those crazy 5 TD games but he is just so consistent and I will take that all the time. Brees is much more volatile where he can have those insane performances but go on the road and not do shit. At the end of the year their stats look the same but I always lean towards the consistent guys.

I'm just stuck on that old fantasy football way of thinking that you have to have at least one really good RB. Waiting until my 4th pick would just make me really nervous. I'd probably feel safer coming away with a guy like Gio and then going WR in rd 3 and going QB later.. looking for a Stafford, Romo or Luck.

The Jimmy Graham drafts always scare me but if I have the 5th or 6th pick I may try it this year.

In comment 11831673 arcarsenal said:

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I'm just stuck on that old fantasy football way of thinking that you have to have at least one really good RB. Waiting until my 4th pick would just make me really nervous. I'd probably feel safer coming away with a guy like Gio and then going WR in rd 3 and going QB later.. looking for a Stafford, Romo or Luck. The Jimmy Graham drafts always scare me but if I have the 5th or 6th pick I may try it this year.

Arc, you have to see how the draft is set up according to each site with their rankings. That changes everything. Like on NFL.com they have such great talent pushed down at RB and even WR that you can steal guys. I think you have to research to see who would be available and go from there. It isn't always clear cut after the first round and seeing who is possibly available in that second and third round area may influence your first round pick.

I haven't been on BBI too much lately.

and Brees or Rodgers in the second. Overall team looks like shit in the end.

The last mock I did like that ended up like this:
QB: Rodgers, Dalton
RB: Sankey, Richardson, S. Jackson, Sproles, Thomas
WR: J.Jones, Garcon, Cruz, Decker, Cooper
TE: Graham

Went TE-QB-WR-WR-WR. I guess you could replace Jones for Morris/Ellington in the 3rd or replace Garcon for a Jennings/Gerhart/Matthews.

Either way I don't like it.

these 8 in order of preference... PPR league

Ball
L. Bell
Julio Jones
AJ Green
Murray
Bernard
Foster
Ellington

Thanks

Julio Jones
AJ Green
Ball
Murray
Bernard
L. Bell
Ellington
Foster

AJ
Julio
Ball
Bernard
Murray
Ellington
Foster
Bell

In comment 11831741 DanMetroMan said:

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these 8 in order of preference... PPR league Ball L. Bell Julio Jones AJ Green Murray Bernard Foster Ellington Thanks

Green
Ball
Murray
Bernard
Juilo Jones
Bell
Ellington
Foster

I put Green up there because he does it year in and year out. I really think Ball shines this year. I like him better than Moreno and think he can finish with equal numbers as him last year if not better. Murray should be great but I worry about his durability a little. Bernard is going to have a great year. I can see 70 catches for him along with running the ball and he does mix in around the goal line. As a rookie he had 1200 yards ad 8 TDs and they limited him. I can easily see over 1500 total yards, 70 catches and around 8 TDs again. If that is what I expect of him then you can tell how much I expect from a guy like Ball. Jones is great but he needs to be more consistent and he has injury concerns too. I don't like Foster at all this year. He can be great but I am not taking that chance.

I'd potentially flip Ball and Julio, actually. So..

AJ
Ball
Julio
Bernard
Murray
Ellington
Foster
Bell

I am in a pickle, have a keeper league and everyone keeps 2 players. Standard scoring, I pick fourth and the players that are available are: Jamal Charles, McCoy, Lynch, Brees, Rodgers, Demaryius Thomas, Julio Jones, AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Demarco Murray, Andre Ellington. I am assuming Lynch, McCoy and Charles will be gone by pick 4.. Who would you guys pick at 4?

is also there and the two players I kept were Ben Tate for a 6th round pick and Kendall Wright for a 15th