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Why more posters don't contribute to BBI ?

BigBlueSince60s : 8/29/2014 7:49 pm
Gentlemen - I registered tonight just to make sure you understood one potential reason why. Plus its a Friday night, so some of you will very much enjoy taking shots at this waiting for tomorrow's cutdown to 53 players

That itself speaks to the problem. We are all Giant fans. But the way some posters are trashed for expressing their opinion is unwarranted and damn right rude.

So why would I want to express an opinion to get trashed by the "BBI inner circle".

So I don't.

If you want more contributions maybe it's time to start managing the site better.

I don't send my money to places that aren't properly managed.

Consider that others may not either.

Ok folks - load up if you cannot resist yourselves
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Sack up  
Sonic Youth : 8/29/2014 7:49 pm : link
It's the internet.
Am I part of the inner circle?  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 7:50 pm : link
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This pretty much sums it up  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 8/29/2014 7:52 pm : link
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Dave Chapelle - ( New Window )
RE: Sack up  
Pitt G-man Dan : 8/29/2014 7:53 pm : link
In comment 11832304 Sonic Youth said:
they're the police
And seriously,  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 7:55 pm : link
Why not name those you think are in the circle?

Or point to a thread where someone is making a valid point but was crushed by BBI consensus?
with some of the mentally challenged on this site  
eli4life : 8/29/2014 7:57 pm : link
He should qualify for some kind of government aid
What you say has some merit...  
okiegiant : 8/29/2014 8:06 pm : link
however, anytime you have an anonymous forum you have to deal with the good and the bad.

Very recently, and you should be aware of this, this site attempted to implement a policy making it much more warm and fuzzy. The result was an explosion of trolls and stupidity that only rivaled this site before the warm and fuzzy days. So in honesty...there was no change at all.

So what am I saying? Simply put this is the internet. It really is the last of the frontier country. You have to be on your toes and ready to defend yourself at a moments notice. You'll either learn quick and last a long time, or, more than likely, simply fade away. Of course you have the occasional poster going down in a blaze of glory but this doesn't happen often.

You want to change this site? You want to make it better? Welcome aboard and do just that. Be like the vast majority of posters here who try to have good conversations and keep the stupidity to a low(ish)level.

If you think the inner circle(which honestly doesn't exist but for the sake of discussion)is running amok then stand up and call them out. Show them you can't be pushed around and you might be surprised how it turns out.

This is as good a site as there is on the interwebs. Can it be better, of course, but nothing is ever perfect.

Instead of trying to throw down the gauntlet and make massive changes maybe you should just slide on in and make little changes like most of us do on here. You might be surprised how well it works out in the end.
You know, every single one of us had to make a first  
Wuphat : 8/29/2014 8:07 pm : link
post contribution to the board at one time or another.

Some of those posts get shit on, some don't.

There have been new posters that sign up and contribute good stuff from day one and there's still others that have been here forever and still haven't figured how to do that.

Ok, that's mostly a joke, but the point is, if the contribution is informative, funny, or just an honest inquiry, it's generally accepted around here.

But you'll never know sitting on the bench.
I'm moving to the Phoenix area next week  
Bill in UT : 8/29/2014 8:08 pm : link
and joined a Cardinals website a few weeks ago. It's very different than BBI. Any bad language is "corrected". The site is much more civil than here. I was trashed as a troll when I first joined here. And many of the posts are disgusting. But this is NY, man. The intellect, the humor of the people here is like nowhere else. So I just let the a-holes flow over me and appreciate this place. That's why I donate.
Show me one reasonable laid out thread  
Headhunter : 8/29/2014 8:10 pm : link
that was attacked by this inner circle? Just one
Obviously you don't know about...  
BMac : 8/29/2014 8:11 pm : link
...the secret BBI website where all the real knowledgeable posters hang. Perhaps if you stick around for a few years (maybe 10 or so) and prove yourself to be a decent poster, you'll get tapped.

We'll provide you with a secret handshake and recognition signal. The decoder ring comes later, after you've coughed up some significant dollars to those of us who rule there.

Until then, just keep your head down, do whatever Brett asks you to do, and visit Cam's basement once a month.
Anyone have  
Big Al : 8/29/2014 8:14 pm : link
a link to the Paulie site where the atmosphere is much friendlier?
Thanks for the reminder  
A-Train : 8/29/2014 8:16 pm : link
Pony up!
RE: Obviously you don't know about...  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 8:16 pm : link
In comment 11832339 BMac said:
Quote:
...the secret BBI website where all the real knowledgeable posters hang. Perhaps if you stick around for a few years (maybe 10 or so) and prove yourself to be a decent poster, you'll get tapped.

We'll provide you with a secret handshake and recognition signal. The decoder ring comes later, after you've coughed up some significant dollars to those of us who rule there.

Until then, just keep your head down, do whatever Brett asks you to do, and visit Cam's basement once a month.


I like this guy.
GFD  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2014 8:16 pm : link
Another one of these threads?
And I've heard this complaint from  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 8:17 pm : link
Other people I've met who read but don't post on the site. I think it's unfortunate.
Brett  
Big Al : 8/29/2014 8:18 pm : link
Tell them they are pussies.
Want to know how not to get trashed with your first post?  
Peter in Atlanta : 8/29/2014 8:21 pm : link
It's simple. Make your first 20 posts reasonable RESPONSES to existing threads. Join discussions. If you try to make your first post a big "splash" that's not well reasoned, you're going to catch a lot of grief.
I read nothing on the main site page  
Shockwave : 8/29/2014 8:22 pm : link
I come straight to the forums. I would consider donating if these forums were some oddball 1990's format/layout. People can say it's unique or whatnot but it's behind the times and needs to change.

The other part is if this site dies I'll just go somewhere else
RE: I'm moving to the Phoenix area next week  
BigBlueShock : 8/29/2014 8:23 pm : link
In comment 11832334 Bill in UT said:
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and joined a Cardinals website a few weeks ago. It's very different than BBI. Any bad language is "corrected". The site is much more civil than here. I was trashed as a troll when I first joined here. And many of the posts are disgusting. But this is NY, man. The intellect, the humor of the people here is like nowhere else. So I just let the a-holes flow over me and appreciate this place. That's why I donate.

Is this a joke? You're moving to Phoenix so you joined a Cardinals site? Wtf? I can't, for the life of me, figure out why you would want to do that.

Oh, and the mob mentality on this site is, absolutely, a joke. It's worse than freaking high school. Except in high school the guys flapping their ball washers weren't hiding behind their computers 1500 miles away. But, the site has much more good than bad, so that's why I contribute.
RE: Brett  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 8:23 pm : link
In comment 11832351 Big Al said:
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Tell them they are pussies.


I'm much more of a dog person.
RE: RE: Sack up  
Sonic Youth : 8/29/2014 8:23 pm : link
In comment 11832310 Pitt G-man Dan said:
Quote:
In comment 11832304 Sonic Youth said:
they're the police

Was this supposed to be funny or something?
RE: RE: RE: Sack up  
Peter in Atlanta : 8/29/2014 8:24 pm : link
In comment 11832361 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 11832310 Pitt G-man Dan said:


Quote:


In comment 11832304 Sonic Youth said:
they're the police


Was this supposed to be funny or something?


It was damned hysterical.
And, here, as an example of even two posters who have  
Wuphat : 8/29/2014 8:24 pm : link
a history of vehement disagreement with one another being able to find common ground, I completely agree with every word of this post:

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Want to know how not to get trashed with your first post?
Peter in Atlanta : 8:21 pm : link : reply
It's simple. Make your first 20 posts reasonable RESPONSES to existing threads. Join discussions. If you try to make your first post a big "splash" that's not well reasoned, you're going to catch a lot of grief.
RE: Want to know how not to get trashed with your first post?  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 8:24 pm : link
In comment 11832357 Peter in Atlanta said:
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It's simple. Make your first 20 posts reasonable RESPONSES to existing threads. Join discussions. If you try to make your first post a big "splash" that's not well reasoned, you're going to catch a lot of grief.


Good advice.
Fair opinion, but there are 2 sides to this coin  
mfsd : 8/29/2014 8:30 pm : link
a lot of the better posters have vanished in recent years as the site has been overrun (at times) by silly comments and inane discussion

This has always been a great place for info and quality discussion about the Giants, the NFL, and a lot of other topics too...and it still is, which is why I still read it daily (and contribute annually)

But a lot of folks react harshly to rank stupidity

For examples of the "good" BBI, see recent threads started today by Marty in Albany, Osi Osi Osi, and Sy'56...interesting discussions started by good, well informed/well read Giant fans

For the opposite, check out the typical game threads
Everyone gets banged around  
Headhunter : 8/29/2014 8:31 pm : link
occasionally here, Eric gets ripped sometimes. Everyone in your inner circle has been trashed. The only poster in my time here not to get trashed wads Hope Johnson. This place is self policed and no one is immune when the go off the reservation
Except me  
BrettNYG10 : 8/29/2014 8:33 pm : link
I am Teflon, HH.
LOL, so you'll only contribute to the site if it's  
Giantology : 8/29/2014 8:34 pm : link
managed the way you prefer?

Even though I'm sure you'll still continue to come here, read the news and updates, etc. which is the real reason you should be contributing... not because of how people interact on a message board on the internet.
getting roughly treated for stupidity is par for the course online  
WeatherMan : 8/29/2014 8:40 pm : link
anonymity provides cover for the internal jackass in us all. I tend to follow Dalton's Rule for this one - be nice, and remember that it's just the internet, it's nothing personal. Two nouns combined to elicit a proscribed response and such. If you persistently post well founded and thought out opinions you'll be accepted here and get on just fine.
But what if they call my momma a whore?  
Wuphat : 8/29/2014 8:41 pm : link
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RE: But what if they call my momma a whore?  
WeatherMan : 8/29/2014 8:43 pm : link
In comment 11832393 Wuphat said:
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Is she?
...  
Wuphat : 8/29/2014 8:43 pm : link
RE: But what if they call my momma a whore?  
Peter in Atlanta : 8/29/2014 8:43 pm : link
In comment 11832393 Wuphat said:
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"They" get banned.
RE: But what if they call my momma a whore?  
BMac : 8/29/2014 8:44 pm : link
In comment 11832393 Wuphat said:
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Is she one?
I agree....  
Rangersin7 : 8/29/2014 8:52 pm : link
There are s few on here who like to think they are smarter than anyone else. If upu dare have an opinion that differs from there's they resort to insult and ridicule instead of actualing discussing the issue. I don't think Brett is one of these guys even if he does disagree with me. I actively participate in the Ranger hockey threads because I don't find the same dynamic as the football threads.
We do have a good number of 40 year  
Rob in NYC : 8/29/2014 8:53 pm : link
Old adolescents, not so much trustees of modern chemistry.
I'm still wondering who is in this  
Jon from PA : 8/29/2014 8:55 pm : link
Inner circle and how do I join?
Bill- I'm as confused as BigBlueShock  
CRinCA : 8/29/2014 8:57 pm : link
Why the hell did you join a Cardinals site?

Are you simply expanding your food target audience? <grin>
I can't get past that anyone cared  
Rob in NYC : 8/29/2014 9:00 pm : link
Enough to create a Cardinals site.
People are such fuckin' pussies.  
arcarsenal : 8/29/2014 9:03 pm : link
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there's at least one or two of these threads  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2014 9:05 pm : link
Every month now. People are going to disagree on a large forum on the internet? Nooo.

Lol, Cardinals message board. Good one.
RE: People are such fuckin' pussies.  
BMac : 8/29/2014 9:05 pm : link
In comment 11832425 arcarsenal said:
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Well, there's always barber college.
RE: I'm still wondering who is in this  
BMac : 8/29/2014 9:07 pm : link
In comment 11832417 Jon from PA said:
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Inner circle and how do I join?


The more you ask, the less likely you find out.
I'll only contribute  
Route 9 in LEH : 8/29/2014 9:09 pm : link
When Rosemarie is a mod
RE: Obviously you don't know about...  
Cam in MO : 8/29/2014 9:13 pm : link
In comment 11832339 BMac said:
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...the secret BBI website where all the real knowledgeable posters hang. Perhaps if you stick around for a few years (maybe 10 or so) and prove yourself to be a decent poster, you'll get tapped.

We'll provide you with a secret handshake and recognition signal. The decoder ring comes later, after you've coughed up some significant dollars to those of us who rule there.

Until then, just keep your head down, do whatever Brett asks you to do, and visit Cam's basement once a month.


Basement is under construction for the time being. Just finished making a St. Andrew's cross and it isn't installed yet. Paint is drying.

RE: RE: Obviously you don't know about...  
BMac : 8/29/2014 9:14 pm : link
In comment 11832442 Cam in MO said:
Quote:
In comment 11832339 BMac said:


Quote:


...the secret BBI website where all the real knowledgeable posters hang. Perhaps if you stick around for a few years (maybe 10 or so) and prove yourself to be a decent poster, you'll get tapped.

We'll provide you with a secret handshake and recognition signal. The decoder ring comes later, after you've coughed up some significant dollars to those of us who rule there.

Until then, just keep your head down, do whatever Brett asks you to do, and visit Cam's basement once a month.



Basement is under construction for the time being. Just finished making a St. Andrew's cross and it isn't installed yet. Paint is drying.


You've said too much! Prepare to be castigated.
For the sake of my mind's eye  
Rob in NYC : 8/29/2014 9:18 pm : link
I am going to go ahead and think a St. Andrew's Cross is a piece of antique golfing equipment.
RE: RE: RE: Obviously you don't know about...  
Cam in MO : 8/29/2014 9:19 pm : link
In comment 11832444 BMac said:
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In comment 11832442 Cam in MO said:


Quote:


In comment 11832339 BMac said:


Quote:


...the secret BBI website where all the real knowledgeable posters hang. Perhaps if you stick around for a few years (maybe 10 or so) and prove yourself to be a decent poster, you'll get tapped.

We'll provide you with a secret handshake and recognition signal. The decoder ring comes later, after you've coughed up some significant dollars to those of us who rule there.

Until then, just keep your head down, do whatever Brett asks you to do, and visit Cam's basement once a month.



Basement is under construction for the time being. Just finished making a St. Andrew's cross and it isn't installed yet. Paint is drying.




You've said too much! Prepare to be castigated.


Sheeet, son.

Wait until it's complete and I start a thread showing off what a real man cave should look like.




It's a double-edged sword  
Moondwg : 8/29/2014 9:19 pm : link
if people are allowed to post whatever crap pops into their head, and it's off limits to criticize what seem like ill-informed or occasionally idiotic thread premises, then many sophisticated or football savvy people will also stop participating.
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