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Giants August 30 cuts / moves thread

Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/30/2014 7:40 am
Post all updates here.

These moves have NOT officially been confirmed.

The New York Giants reportedly cut or released thus far:

  • QB Curtis Painter
  • RB Kendall Gaskins
  • RB Michael Cox
  • FB John Conner
  • WR Julian Talley
  • TE Kellen Davis
  • OL Rogers Gaines
  • OL Mark Asper
  • OL Jamaal Johnson-Webb
  • OL Adam Gress
  • DE Israel Idonije
  • DE Jordan Stanton
  • DT Kelcy Quarles
  • LB Dan Fox
  • LB Terrell Manning
  • CB Bennett Jackson
  • CB Chandler Fenner
  • S Thomas Gordon

Giants reportedly place the following players on Injured Reserve (injury settlements possible):

  • WR Trindon Holliday
  • WR Mario Manningham
New York Daily News reporting the following to Reserve/Suspended List:
  • OL Eric Herman
  • CB Jayron Hosley

WR Corey Washington tweeted he made the team.

Jordan Raanan reports: Chance TE Kellen Davis is re-signed by the Giants after Week 1, per source.

Giants activated LB Jon Beason from PUP.

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Conner  
halfback20 : 8/30/2014 9:10 am : link
has to be the best full back available right?
RE: Must be  
Reb8thVA : 8/30/2014 9:11 am : link
In comment 11832764 Andy in Boston said:
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They're only keeping 3 TE's


or keeping space open for someone else's cuts
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Conner apparently  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2014 9:13 am : link
In comment 11832765 halfback20 said:
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In comment 11832742 Big Blue '56 said:


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Released



Huh?



John Conner was cut



I see that now...My "huh" was directed at the word "apparently."



Saw it on twitter. I'm not a twitter expert so I'm never 100% confident in what I read there lol


Gotcha
Bobby  
Andy in Boston : 8/30/2014 9:16 am : link
Conner is not an eligible ps player
Andy  
halfback20 : 8/30/2014 9:17 am : link
I think he just meant he thinks no one else will sign him so he'll be there if we need him
De facto practice squad, Andy.  
Klaatu : 8/30/2014 9:18 am : link
As in, he'll be sitting on his couch if they need him.
Bobby Epps  
aquidneck : 8/30/2014 9:19 am : link
I get your point in terms of player availibility, but the practice squad is for guys that actually practice.

These constitute the scout team that the starters practice against week to week.

That's the reason you don't keep kickers on the PS. They can't practice, and since any team could sign that player at any time anyway you're just as well off leaving them on the street rather than adding them to your PS.

But yes, there is a pool of FA vets that will be available throughout the season. Because if the vesting rules, the pool will probably stocked with its best talent between now and the end of week one.
Andy- Everyone knows that.  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 9:21 am : link
De facto Practice Squad does not mean the 10 player Practice Squad. It means players who are ineligible for the 10 person Practice Squad but instead players who are ineligible for such Squad but are nevertheless available to be signed because no one else will sign them.
Where's a good "cuts" tracker?  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2014 9:24 am : link
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RE: Andy- Everyone knows that.  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 9:24 am : link
In comment 11832786 Bobby Epps said:
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De facto Practice Squad does not mean the 10 player Practice Squad. It means players who are ineligible for the 10 person Practice Squad but instead players who are ineligible for such Squad but are nevertheless available to be signed because no one else will sign them.


With the best of them getting picked up this week, maybe we should call the remainders The Desperation Squad, the guys available when you're desperate for a body,lol
RE: Where's a good  
jeff57 : 8/30/2014 9:26 am : link
In comment 11832791 Big Blue '56 said:
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http://m.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/running-list-giants-final-cuts-blog-entry-1.1922185
Painter  
halfback20 : 8/30/2014 9:28 am : link
released
RE: Where's a good  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 9:28 am : link
In comment 11832791 Big Blue '56 said:
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This one was posted yesterday. I don't know if it's the best for the league
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Painter to be cut  
ZogZerg : 8/30/2014 9:28 am : link
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no surprise Painter to be waived  
micky : 8/30/2014 9:28 am : link
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Here's a  
halfback20 : 8/30/2014 9:28 am : link
list so far
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.  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 9:38 am : link
Good chane to PS Fox and Jackson. Quarles may be grabbed. I would have cut Kuhn, but they didn't call me and ask. Also unsure of keeping Wynn or Stanton is they get cut.
Thanks guys  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2014 9:38 am : link
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Are Gaskins/Coe and the WRs the only battles...  
Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 9:38 am : link
without clear answers yet?
RE: Are Gaskins/Coe and the WRs the only battles...  
jeff57 : 8/30/2014 9:39 am : link
In comment 11832814 Dunedin81 said:
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without clear answers yet?


Wynne-Kuhn is another.
OL - will Gaines make the team?  
CruzShip52 : 8/30/2014 9:41 am : link
Jerry locked up his spot after his dominant performance Thursday
RE: Are Gaskins/Coe and the WRs the only battles...  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 9:42 am : link
In comment 11832814 Dunedin81 said:
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without clear answers yet?


The OTs
RE: OL - will Gaines make the team?  
jeff57 : 8/30/2014 9:43 am : link
In comment 11832823 CruzShip52 said:
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Jerry locked up his spot after his dominant performance Thursday


Probably.
TC said after the game that there was concern about  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 9:46 am : link
how Jerry's knee would hold up after playing a full game. Has anyone heard anything about how that went?
Kellen Davis is awful.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/30/2014 9:51 am : link
But all these TEs are mediocre. I don't see a useful player in the bunch.
....  
micky : 8/30/2014 9:52 am : link
Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 9s

OL Jamaal Johnson-Webb has been waived
RE: .  
AcidTest : 8/30/2014 9:57 am : link
In comment 11832811 Bill in UT said:
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Good chane to PS Fox and Jackson. Quarles may be grabbed. I would have cut Kuhn, but they didn't call me and ask. Also unsure of keeping Wynn or Stanton is they get cut.


Agreed. I would have kept Quarles over Kuhn, and I'm not sure Quarles gets through waivers. In Kuhn's defense, when he did play this preseason, I saw a number of plays where he was being double teamed, or at least being chipped by a second defender. PFF gave him a -4.0 grade IIRC, but it looked to me like other teams were paying attention to him.

Wynn and Stanton may also not get through waivers.
Surprised about cutting Davis - I thought he would stick  
PatersonPlank : 8/30/2014 9:58 am : link
Man our TE's are awful, who is our starter? Fells, Donnell? Yuch
Shipley was waived  
DavidinBMNY : 8/30/2014 10:01 am : link
He might be a player they cut a claim on. Possible upgrade over Reynolds?
RE: Surprised about cutting Davis - I thought he would stick  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 10:01 am : link
In comment 11832842 PatersonPlank said:
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Man our TE's are awful, who is our starter? Fells, Donnell? Yuch


I think Yuch has been practicing with the 1s :)
Rookies who get cut rarely get claimed  
BillT : 8/30/2014 10:03 am : link
Guys like Quarles and Wynn (if cut) have very little info available for other teams to look at except preseason film. They aren't usually going to put guys like that on their 53 man roster. When was the last NYG rookie that got claimed at the final cut down or even claimed off the PS during the season. I remember one claimed off the PS a couple of years back but can't remember who it was.
RE: IMO John Conner is on the de facto practice Squad-  
mattlawson : 8/30/2014 10:03 am : link
In comment 11832766 Bobby Epps said:
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don't think anyone else will sign him and, thus, will be available if we need him.


That's not how the practice squad works you can't stash somebody on the practice squad that has already been playing in regular-season games for their whole career
RE: Rookies who get cut rarely get claimed  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 10:07 am : link
In comment 11832849 BillT said:
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Guys like Quarles and Wynn (if cut) have very little info available for other teams to look at except preseason film. They aren't usually going to put guys like that on their 53 man roster. When was the last NYG rookie that got claimed at the final cut down or even claimed off the PS during the season. I remember one claimed off the PS a couple of years back but can't remember who it was.


Thanks, I hope that's how it goes and we can hold on to them, if cut
Wynn flashed  
Lowell.. : 8/30/2014 10:07 am : link
in each game. He can plays both DT and DE.
Garret Gilket G/T jusy cut.  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 10:08 am : link
Very good measureables and, thus, might be worth a try-out.
RE: Rookies who get cut rarely get claimed  
AcidTest : 8/30/2014 10:08 am : link
In comment 11832849 BillT said:
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Guys like Quarles and Wynn (if cut) have very little info available for other teams to look at except preseason film. They aren't usually going to put guys like that on their 53 man roster. When was the last NYG rookie that got claimed at the final cut down or even claimed off the PS during the season. I remember one claimed off the PS a couple of years back but can't remember who it was.


David Douglas was claimed off our PS by the Bucs during the regular season, but I can't remember if that was last year or the year before. Maybe that's who you're thinking of.
He said DE FACTO practice squad.  
Klaatu : 8/30/2014 10:08 am : link
Jeez...
Washington has tweeted he made team  
Maximus, Esq. : 8/30/2014 10:09 am : link
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RE: Washington has tweeted he made team  
Jon from PA : 8/30/2014 10:11 am : link
In comment 11832858 Maximus, Esq. said:
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Nice!
RE: Washington has tweeted he made team  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 10:12 am : link
In comment 11832858 Maximus, Esq. said:
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That was posted here over an hour ago :)
Bill  
Maximus, Esq. : 8/30/2014 10:13 am : link
Yeah whoops just saw that! :) I should have known better! Well I just found out so I'm psyched.
I hope they keep Holiday over  
larryflower37 : 8/30/2014 10:14 am : link
Parker.
Holiday has way more upside.
There 60 Preston Parker's at the bottom of rosters and PS's.
With those reported  
Lionhart28 : 8/30/2014 10:17 am : link
What are we at now? How many cuts left?
RE: With those reported  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 10:18 am : link
In comment 11832870 Lionhart28 said:
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What are we at now? How many cuts left?


10 done, 12 to go
this makes no sense  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:21 am : link
Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 36s

Big news for Parker RT @Rand_Getlin: #Giants have placed WR Mario Manningham and WR/KR Trindon Holliday on IR, per a league source.
RE: I hope they keep Holiday over  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/30/2014 10:22 am : link
In comment 11832864 larryflower37 said:
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Parker.
Holiday has way more upside.
There 60 Preston Parker's at the bottom of rosters and PS's.


Really? He's only a return man. Parker looked better than JJ and of he was an ex 3rd round pile of Reese wouldn't even be a question to make the team as opposed to JJ. Holiday hasn't shown anything as he's been hurt. Not sure u can't cut him and pick him up on 2-3 weeks if he's needed
IDK why you'd IR Manningham...  
Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 10:23 am : link
waived/injured with a settlement maybe, but he's not in the plans going forward.
RE: this makes no sense  
AcidTest : 8/30/2014 10:24 am : link
In comment 11832874 Eric from BBI said:
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Connor Hughes ‏@Connor_J_Hughes 36s

Big news for Parker RT @Rand_Getlin: #Giants have placed WR Mario Manningham and WR/KR Trindon Holliday on IR, per a league source.


Why put MM on IR? Why not just cut him with an injury settlement? I assume they did this to keep him around for next year, but is it really worth it to do so? As far as Holliday is concerned, is his injury really serious enough to justify IR?
I'd  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:25 am : link
wait on that Manningham/Holliday report...neither makes sense.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:25 am : link
Ebenezer Samuel ‏@ebenezersamuel 7s

Can confirm Holliday and Manningham to IR reports, per source.
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