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Giants August 30 cuts / moves thread

Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/30/2014 7:40 am
Post all updates here.

These moves have NOT officially been confirmed.

The New York Giants reportedly cut or released thus far:

  • QB Curtis Painter
  • RB Kendall Gaskins
  • RB Michael Cox
  • FB John Conner
  • WR Julian Talley
  • TE Kellen Davis
  • OL Rogers Gaines
  • OL Mark Asper
  • OL Jamaal Johnson-Webb
  • OL Adam Gress
  • DE Israel Idonije
  • DE Jordan Stanton
  • DT Kelcy Quarles
  • LB Dan Fox
  • LB Terrell Manning
  • CB Bennett Jackson
  • CB Chandler Fenner
  • S Thomas Gordon

Giants reportedly place the following players on Injured Reserve (injury settlements possible):

  • WR Trindon Holliday
  • WR Mario Manningham
New York Daily News reporting the following to Reserve/Suspended List:
  • OL Eric Herman
  • CB Jayron Hosley

WR Corey Washington tweeted he made the team.

Jordan Raanan reports: Chance TE Kellen Davis is re-signed by the Giants after Week 1, per source.

Giants activated LB Jon Beason from PUP.

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That was  
dep026 : 8/30/2014 10:26 am : link
a long wait ;)
since  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:26 am : link
neither Holliday or Manningham have serious injuries, I assume this is only temporary until injury settlement.
I think we'll still be looking around for a return guy  
bigbluescot : 8/30/2014 10:26 am : link
there's normally a couple who shake loose.
Call it the "couch squad"  
djm : 8/30/2014 10:28 am : link
For fucks sake no more defacto!
RE: I think we'll still be looking around for a return guy  
Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 10:28 am : link
In comment 11832884 bigbluescot said:
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there's normally a couple who shake loose.


I would hope a return guy could shake loose, lol
RE: RE: With those reported  
Lionhart28 : 8/30/2014 10:29 am : link
In comment 11832871 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 11832870 Lionhart28 said:


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What are we at now? How many cuts left?



10 done, 12 to go


Thanks Bill, traveling and trying to keep track on my phone.
Eric  
DavidinBMNY : 8/30/2014 10:30 am : link
Maybe IR for those guys makes more financial sense, given they waive them with a settlement?
RE: I think we'll still be looking around for a return guy  
Klaatu : 8/30/2014 10:30 am : link
In comment 11832884 bigbluescot said:
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there's normally a couple who shake loose.


When Beckham gets healthy, he'll be returning punts. We also signed Demps because he's an experienced returner. No need to bring in anyone new at this stage of the game.
.  
Danny Kanell : 8/30/2014 10:30 am : link
Really disappointed with the Holliday situation. I was really excited to see an actual threat at returner.

Sucks.
DavidinBMNY  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:31 am : link
No...on IR, they get full salary.

Injury settlement only makes sense. Neither has serious injury.

Holliday said he would practice this week. Manningham had minor calf injury.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:32 am : link
Conor Orr ‏@ConorTOrr 1m

The likely end for both of these players, especially Holliday, is an injury settlement. #nyg
RE: .  
Vin R : 8/30/2014 10:32 am : link
In comment 11832893 Danny Kanell said:
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Really disappointed with the Holliday situation. I was really excited to see an actual threat at returner.

Sucks.


Same :(
RE: since  
AcidTest : 8/30/2014 10:33 am : link
In comment 11832883 Eric from BBI said:
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neither Holliday or Manningham have serious injuries, I assume this is only temporary until injury settlement.


This. Really sorry about Holliday given how sorry our return game has been the last few years. Dare I say we will soon be treated to more of RR fair catching everything.
...  
Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 10:35 am : link
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 29s

Vested vets (4+ yrs) don't go thru waivers. Right to IR then settlement. RT @RusselHenderso1: Why IR + not waived with an injury settlement?
whatever this means...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:37 am : link
Rand Getlin ‏@Rand_Getlin 5m

On Mario Manningham and Trindon Holliday: both players are on short-term IR. Neither has a season-ending injury.
For a while now  
Killed the K-Gun : 8/30/2014 10:37 am : link
the Giants haven't had a punter returner. They've had a punt catcher.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:38 am : link
last tweet makes no sense...you only have one temp IR move.

Holliday was always a long shot  
BillT : 8/30/2014 10:38 am : link
He would have had to show something as a WR. He wasn't going to make it as a KR alone. Parker and then maybe OBJ will be fine.
RE: whatever this means...  
okiegiant : 8/30/2014 10:38 am : link
In comment 11832908 Eric from BBI said:
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Rand Getlin ‏@Rand_Getlin 5m

On Mario Manningham and Trindon Holliday: both players are on short-term IR. Neither has a season-ending injury.


Did the rule change? I am confused...
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:39 am : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 19s

Chance TE Kellen Davis is re-signed by the #Giants after Week 1, per source.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:39 am : link
Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 22s

The Giants have also released OL Adam Gress.
Eric  
Reale01 : 8/30/2014 10:40 am : link
They may want tokeep Holliday away from other teams. Why not do ti if it doesn't count against the cap?
I think what he means...  
Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 10:40 am : link
is that they won't be on IR all season. As Garofalo said, they don't go through waivers because they're vets and entitled to a full year's pay.
No rule didn't change  
DavidinBMNY : 8/30/2014 10:40 am : link
Technically that isn't possible. I think the person who tweeted that means they will be waived with an injury settlement.
Wynn flashed  
Lowell.. : 8/30/2014 10:41 am : link
in each game. He can plays both DT and DE.
Reale01  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:41 am : link
that's not what is going on.
RE: ...  
bigbluescot : 8/30/2014 10:41 am : link
In comment 11832912 Eric from BBI said:
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last tweet makes no sense...you only have one temp IR move.


I think he means the minor injury designation. It's temp in that they can play again for another team when the settlement is reached. But even then, it's a poor tweet.
PFT reporting  
Lowell.. : 8/30/2014 10:42 am : link
Idonije cut
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:42 am : link
I'm putting all of the roster moves at top of this thread.
Lowel  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:43 am : link
we knew that hours ago...see top of thread.
Holiday to ir??  
CruzShip52 : 8/30/2014 10:43 am : link
Seriously with a hamstring
So far no surprises  
ZogZerg : 8/30/2014 10:45 am : link
..
How many more cuts to go?  
Anakim : 8/30/2014 10:45 am : link
?
If Idonoje and Quarles are gone  
Sir-Yes-Sir : 8/30/2014 10:46 am : link
that seems like a pretty good sign for Kerry Wynn. Here's hoping he makes it!
RE: Holiday to ir??  
jeff57 : 8/30/2014 10:46 am : link
In comment 11832932 CruzShip52 said:
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Seriously with a hamstring


Yeah, seems ridiculous
I'm going to cut and paste my own tweets :)))  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:47 am : link
Big Blue Interactive ‏@BigBlueInteract 1m

Rand Getlin's tweet on short-term IR makes no sense. I think he's trying to suggest IR, then injury settlement/cut.

Big Blue Interactive ‏@BigBlueInteract 49s

Teams only have one short-term IR move and the Giants won't waste that on Manningham or Holliday.
They'll probably use it on Schwartz  
jeff57 : 8/30/2014 10:49 am : link
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Yse, Schwartz with most likely go to short term IR  
ZogZerg : 8/30/2014 10:51 am : link
That way they can re-sign one of the cuts or someone from another team to their roster.
9 moves to go  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 10:52 am : link
if Ralph is right about Holsey and Herman.
Clarification  
eagles nut : 8/30/2014 10:52 am : link
Don't confuse short-term IR(also called IR-minor) with IR/Designated to Return. Not the same thing. Short-term IR are for non-season ending injuries where the team and player can not agree on an injury settlement. The player stays on IR until he is cleared medically or the two sides reach an agreement. As many players can go on short-term IR as needed. IR/Designated to Return is different. Only one player each team can be given the IR/Designated to Return designation. This player must be kept on the initial 53-man roster and can be moved to the IR/Designated to Return reserve on Tuesday.
There are some good RB on the waiver wire  
DavidinBMNY : 8/30/2014 10:52 am : link
Possible upgrades to whoever NYG are considering as a 4th RB. Would not be surprised to see a claim put in.

Also some decent reserve OL emerging. I would be shocked in someone who can play tackle isn't claimed.
I really hope they pick up  
GMANinDC : 8/30/2014 10:53 am : link
Evan Royster at RB..
Final decisions are probably Brown or Brewer  
jeff57 : 8/30/2014 10:53 am : link
and Wynn or Kuhn
RE: There are some good RB on the waiver wire  
Simms11 : 8/30/2014 10:55 am : link
In comment 11832953 DavidinBMNY said:
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Possible upgrades to whoever NYG are considering as a 4th RB. Would not be surprised to see a claim put in.

Also some decent reserve OL emerging. I would be shocked in someone who can play tackle isn't claimed.


That also mean more cuts for us.
RE: Clarification  
Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 10:55 am : link
In comment 11832951 eagles nut said:
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Don't confuse short-term IR(also called IR-minor) with IR/Designated to Return. Not the same thing. Short-term IR are for non-season ending injuries where the team and player can not agree on an injury settlement. The player stays on IR until he is cleared medically or the two sides reach an agreement. As many players can go on short-term IR as needed. IR/Designated to Return is different. Only one player each team can be given the IR/Designated to Return designation. This player must be kept on the initial 53-man roster and can be moved to the IR/Designated to Return reserve on Tuesday.


Good info, thanks!
I think the possible waver pick ups  
BillT : 8/30/2014 10:55 am : link
Are a vet LT and a vet TE.
sam  
kepler20 : 8/30/2014 10:57 am : link
Michael Sam, was he cut?
For those questioning the IR moves  
USAF NYG Fan : 8/30/2014 10:58 am : link
it should really come as no surprise at all. It was less of a surprise for Harris. This is how they stashed Cruz during his first breakout pre-season.

Both Holiday and Manningham may be waiting on injury settlements. Can they play again this year after taking an injury settlement? It might be up to both of them to decide.

I'm hoping Washington can get in there and practice with Eli to get that timing down. Fast and tall could be a great help to Eli when he's in trouble. He's dominant fighting for the ball and can grab it at it's highest point. He will win most of those battles and draw a lot of flags.

http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2010/10/nfl_upholds_giants_placing_wid.html - ( New Window )
Kellen Davis was the best blocking TE on this squad (not saying much)  
BlueHurricane : 8/30/2014 10:59 am : link
Hope they pick him back up after week one.

The short term IR makes little sense for Schwartz if he is really 3-4 weeks away as TC said yesterday in his presser. Maybe Holliday to short term IR????
Last time I looked this was a giant cut thread  
Carl in CT : 8/30/2014 11:03 am : link
Who gives a shit about Michael Sam! Unless the giants claim him
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