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Giants August 30 cuts / moves thread

Bold Ruler : Mod : 8/30/2014 7:40 am
Post all updates here.

These moves have NOT officially been confirmed.

The New York Giants reportedly cut or released thus far:

  • QB Curtis Painter
  • RB Kendall Gaskins
  • RB Michael Cox
  • FB John Conner
  • WR Julian Talley
  • TE Kellen Davis
  • OL Rogers Gaines
  • OL Mark Asper
  • OL Jamaal Johnson-Webb
  • OL Adam Gress
  • DE Israel Idonije
  • DE Jordan Stanton
  • DT Kelcy Quarles
  • LB Dan Fox
  • LB Terrell Manning
  • CB Bennett Jackson
  • CB Chandler Fenner
  • S Thomas Gordon

Giants reportedly place the following players on Injured Reserve (injury settlements possible):

  • WR Trindon Holliday
  • WR Mario Manningham
New York Daily News reporting the following to Reserve/Suspended List:
  • OL Eric Herman
  • CB Jayron Hosley

WR Corey Washington tweeted he made the team.

Jordan Raanan reports: Chance TE Kellen Davis is re-signed by the Giants after Week 1, per source.

Giants activated LB Jon Beason from PUP.

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Josh Boyce WR cut by Patriots.  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 1:47 pm : link
Very fast WR. Worth try-out vs. JJ IMO.
Is James Brewer...  
M.S. : 8/30/2014 1:47 pm : link
...going to appear on this list?
RE: BTW everyone killing Austin  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/30/2014 1:49 pm : link
In comment 11833390 nygiants1114 said:
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Made the team over a good vet in Dickerson, they love him in Denver, had back surgery and took out bones from his back and feels a million times better, doctor told him it was practically paralyzed and he played with it for 2 years for the giants, remember this when you say players are lazy and dont work hard.


If that's true, and he begins to have an NFL career, that's a bad look for the Giants front office.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 1:50 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 1m

Defensive back Thomas Gordon will be waived, per source. Only a few more cuts to go. Here's the list so far: #giants http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/08/giants_roster_2014_track_saturdays_cuts_live_right_here.html
This Kuhn/Quarles thing  
nygiants1114 : 8/30/2014 1:51 pm : link
Its clear Kuhn is a practice and meeting room guy, because everything else suggest Quarles, Quarles has better physical talent, Quarles has been more durable while Kuhn has continued to struggle to stay on feild and healthy, Qualres flashed and was better in the preseason is the short time that Kuhn, those are indisputable things...if they feel practice and meeting rooms are a better judge than those 3, then we will see what happens. All i know Bromley and Quarles have outplayed Kuhn, we will see who the 4th DT is on gameday, if its Kuhn i will continue to question that.
Btw mistake  
nygiants1114 : 8/30/2014 1:52 pm : link
was Vickerson not Dickerson who got cut over Austin.
RE: RE: BTW everyone killing Austin  
Canton : 8/30/2014 1:52 pm : link
In comment 11833399 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 11833390 nygiants1114 said:


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Made the team over a good vet in Dickerson, they love him in Denver, had back surgery and took out bones from his back and feels a million times better, doctor told him it was practically paralyzed and he played with it for 2 years for the giants, remember this when you say players are lazy and dont work hard.



If that's true, and he begins to have an NFL career, that's a bad look for the Giants front office.



Agreed
nygiants1114...  
M.S. : 8/30/2014 1:53 pm : link
...if that's true, then he must have had the same affliction down in Chapel Hill.

'cause he played the same way in college.

Wired to the blocker and just dancing around like it was Saturday night at the local pub.

Still dunno why Reese drafted this guy. But it's all of a piece.
RE: RE: BTW everyone killing Austin  
Mason : 8/30/2014 1:53 pm : link
In comment 11833399 Ten Ton Hammer said:
Quote:
In comment 11833390 nygiants1114 said:


Quote:


Made the team over a good vet in Dickerson, they love him in Denver, had back surgery and took out bones from his back and feels a million times better, doctor told him it was practically paralyzed and he played with it for 2 years for the giants, remember this when you say players are lazy and dont work hard.



If that's true, and he begins to have an NFL career, that's a bad look for the Giants front office.


Dr. Reese has some explaining to do.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 1:53 pm : link
Quarles and Kuhn are two different types of players. Quarles is more a 3-technique guy. He's supposed to be the flashier guy.
RE: Eric Winston  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/30/2014 1:53 pm : link
In comment 11833375 Mr. Nickels said:
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cut from Seattle. He has bounced around a lot but I would pick him up.


Um - Eric Winston Sux - Osi went by him for 6 sacks in one game
Steve Maneri TE cut by Patriots 6'7" TE with good measureables.  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 1:54 pm : link
Might be worth try-out.
So, what does Henry Hynoski do better...  
M.S. : 8/30/2014 1:54 pm : link

...than John Conner?
No... that's Winston Justice  
Four Aces : 8/30/2014 1:55 pm : link
.
Why hasn't  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 1:55 pm : link
Mark Asper been cut yet?
There seems to be a lot of hand wringing about DT Kelcy Quarles.  
Marty in Albany : 8/30/2014 1:57 pm : link
Nevertheless, I suspect that DE Israel Idonije, who was also cut, will return to the Giants' roster sooner than Kelcy will. Kelcy may have the higher up side potential than Israel, but at the moment Israel may be a more serviceable plug if a Dlineman goes down.
thank you 4 Aces  
gidiefor : Mod : 8/30/2014 1:57 pm : link
: )

Never mind!
RE: No... that's Winston Justice  
Mason : 8/30/2014 1:57 pm : link
In comment 11833415 Four Aces said:
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Isn't he the guy who won the Heisman but has an issue with boundaries?
Bobby Epps  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 1:57 pm : link
how do you know he hasn't? Because it's not on twitter?
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 1:58 pm : link
Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 1m

i.e. Kellen Davis-->RT @greggabe Many vested vets cut today will be on rosters after week 1 when their salary for the year isn't guaranteed
They should be looking to upgrade over Davis, not have him  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/30/2014 1:59 pm : link
on the short list to come back.
RE: ...  
Mason : 8/30/2014 2:00 pm : link
In comment 11833422 Eric from BBI said:
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Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 1m

i.e. Kellen Davis-->RT @greggabe Many vested vets cut today will be on rosters after week 1 when their salary for the year isn't guaranteed


Always forget about the cap moves.
Eric: Because I'm relying on  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 2:00 pm : link
your list and if he's not on there, then he hasn't been cut.
RE: Eric: Because I'm relying on  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2014 2:01 pm : link
In comment 11833426 Bobby Epps said:
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your list and if he's not on there, then he hasn't been cut.


The so-called short list is an opinion and he may very well be on one. However, it doesn't necessarily mean he comes back after after week one
Duke Iheanacho waived  
nygiants1114 : 8/30/2014 2:02 pm : link
will be highly sought after S ....25 year old 19 game started for Broncos last year, athletic guy. Maybe Reese can trade with Broncos again. Demps rumors would make more sense then.
Bobby, that wasn't meant for you, sorry  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2014 2:03 pm : link
.
RE: They should be looking to upgrade over Davis, not have him  
Big Blue '56 : 8/30/2014 2:03 pm : link
In comment 11833424 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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on the short list to come back.



The so-called short list is an opinion and he may very well be on one. However, it doesn't necessarily mean he comes back after after week one
I should have added, that because Israel can also play tackle  
Marty in Albany : 8/30/2014 2:04 pm : link
he could fill in at DE or T as a reserve. If they need to replace a full-time starter at T, neither Kelcy nor Israel will get the call (hopefully).
eric  
SBlue46 : 8/30/2014 2:05 pm : link
Hope quarles to ps because Kuhn always gets injured
Bobby Epps  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 2:06 pm : link
Re-read it again.

Those are unofficial cuts/roster moves.

Nothing is official.
Keep  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 2:07 pm : link
in mind that if they want to put Schwartz on the Short-term IR, then need to keep him on 53 until Tuesday. So they will likely bring someone back at that point.
RE: Pretty Shocked  
Jay in Toronto : 8/30/2014 2:08 pm : link
In comment 11833011 JesseS said:
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about Jackson and Quarles.

I know he's only an UDFA and made some mistakes, but I really think Quarles has so much more upside than Kuhn. Hope they make it to PS.

Loved his motor.
Quarles already went through waivers  
Mason : 8/30/2014 2:10 pm : link
if he is on the PS already. So we can move on from worrying about Quarles vs guys who made the cut. Unfortunately, he most likely will see playing time with our DT injury history recently.
RE: Steve Maneri TE cut by Patriots 6'7  
The_Taxman : 8/30/2014 2:11 pm : link
In comment 11833413 Bobby Epps said:
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Might be worth try-out.


Maneri might be worth a look with this pathetic trio of TEs that we have. Problem is I think Reese is hell bent on keeping Robinson for one more year. Why? I have no clue, most likely pride. I'd keep an eye on if Sudfeld is cut from the Jets. I read he's on the bubble. I'd take Sudfeld and Maneri over Donnell and Robinson. And keep Fells. Still not a great group of TEs but it's an upgrade.
Seahawks release RT Eric Winston  
bigbluescot : 8/30/2014 2:11 pm : link
he'd be an interesting pickup for cover at tackle.
Gordon cut  
Jay in Toronto : 8/30/2014 2:12 pm : link
according to Record-Ledger
vincent brown  
CruzShip52 : 8/30/2014 2:12 pm : link
please take a look at him, he is a freak WR
RE: RE: Steve Maneri TE cut by Patriots 6'7  
Mason : 8/30/2014 2:12 pm : link
In comment 11833439 The_Taxman said:
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In comment 11833413 Bobby Epps said:


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Might be worth try-out.



Maneri might be worth a look with this pathetic trio of TEs that we have. Problem is I think Reese is hell bent on keeping Robinson for one more year. Why? I have no clue, most likely pride. I'd keep an eye on if Sudfeld is cut from the Jets. I read he's on the bubble. I'd take Sudfeld and Maneri over Donnell and Robinson. And keep Fells. Still not a great group of TEs but it's an upgrade.


You know coaches are involved in the process, right?
cuts beome official at 4pm today, starting the 24 hour clock  
Gross Blau Oberst : 8/30/2014 2:13 pm : link
to clear waivers. only after 4pm on Sunday can PS be formally established.

Correct? ??
Eric: Sorry my fault but we're talking about two different  
Bobby Epps : 8/30/2014 2:13 pm : link
things. I just don't see Asper making the final 53 because while a good run blocker, he's not a good pass blocker IMO.

That's why I'm mystified as to why he hasn't been cut yet.
Sudfeld was a udfa from a small school who  
Sir-Yes-Sir : 8/30/2014 2:13 pm : link
had a great preseason game or two a year or two ago when he was the only healthy patriot te. has done nothing since but get thrown aside be a couple teams.
Sorry didn't see he ws on the list  
Jay in Toronto : 8/30/2014 2:13 pm : link
why is Asper still on the team?
Maneri made my team in Madden  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/30/2014 2:13 pm : link
for what that's worth (0)

He's actually rated as a pretty beastly blocker.
RE: cuts beome official at 4pm today, starting the 24 hour clock  
Mason : 8/30/2014 2:15 pm : link
In comment 11833446 Gross Blau Oberst said:
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to clear waivers. only after 4pm on Sunday can PS be formally established.

Correct? ??


I thought was the case that teams had time but I read on this thread that Quarles made it to PS a couple of times. ???
RE: Quarles already went through waivers  
Jay in Toronto : 8/30/2014 2:15 pm : link
In comment 11833438 Mason said:
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if he is on the PS already. So we can move on from worrying about Quarles vs guys who made the cut. Unfortunately, he most likely will see playing time with our DT injury history recently.


Or injuries devastate another team's DL and he gets signed to the 53 man roster
Bobby Epps  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 2:17 pm : link
Again, do you go on twitter to tell people you've been fired?

Asper may have been told this morning he was cut. And probably was.
gaskins and cox  
SBlue46 : 8/30/2014 2:17 pm : link
Equal so gaskins goe ps. I think cox ineligible
RE: Keep  
CGiants07 : 8/30/2014 2:19 pm : link
In comment 11833435 Eric from BBI said:
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in mind that if they want to put Schwartz on the Short-term IR, then need to keep him on 53 until Tuesday. So they will likely bring someone back at that point.


if he is only going to miss 3-4 weeks we should be able to hold him active especially since it seems like 10 OL will be opening roster
I  
AcidTest : 8/30/2014 2:20 pm : link
don't think Quarles is on the PS. I don't think anybody is on the PS for any team. Don't teams have 24 hours to put in a claim for a waived player?
Eric Winston is an interesting option  
dpinzow : 8/30/2014 2:22 pm : link
and is probably better than some of our backup linemen
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