Giants August 30 cuts / moves thread

September 1: After 12 noon, New York time, clubs may establish a Practice Squad of ten players. The criteria for Practice Squad eligibility has been expanded in two respects. First, a player must have a minimum of six games � up from the current three games � on a Practice Squad in order for that season to count as one of the player�s three permissible seasons of Practice Squad service. Second, each club will be permitted to sign a maximum of two Practice Squad players who have earned no more than two accrued seasons of free agency credit. Absent this exception, a player who has earned one or more accrued seasons would not be eligible for a Practice Squad unless the player spent fewer than nine games on a club�s 46-player active list in each of his accrued seasons.

Winston really struggle in Arizona?

In comment 11833448 Sir-Yes-Sir said:

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had a great preseason game or two a year or two ago when he was the only healthy patriot te. has done nothing since but get thrown aside be a couple teams.

He was cut by the Pats. One team. And in the little he's shown, it's more than Robinson has shown.

Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 37s

If I'm the Giants, I'm keeping a close eye on WR Vincent Brown, whom Chargers will reportedly waive injured today with a calf injury. #NYG

Jordan Raanan ‏@JordanRaanan 13s

It appears RB Peyton Hillis will be a last-minute decision. Other factors will influence the decision there. #giants

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In comment 11833469 Eric from BBI said:

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Winston really struggle in Arizona?

Did he struggle any worse than Brown or Brewer?

If a teams puts in a claim for a waved player, do they have to cut another player immediately or do they wait until they have been awarded the player

That I don't know. Winston was a FA this offseason and the Giants signed Charles Brown instead. Winston is also more a RT.

You don't have to cut someone until you need to.

Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 1m

Been hearing Giants may keep just 3 RBs, plus one on PS. ... RT @JordanRaanan: It appears RB Peyton Hillis will be a last-minute decision.

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I believe it's 4:00

In comment 11833483 Eric from BBI said:

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Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 1m Been hearing Giants may keep just 3 RBs, plus one on PS. ... RT @JordanRaanan: It appears RB Peyton Hillis will be a last-minute decision.

Hillis can't go on PS. I'm not sure if Cox can. So they have to either keep Hillis on the 53 or lose him

because if they are, the fact that Peyton Hillis is a last second decision is worrisome. He's exactly the kind of journeyman that you can pick up relatively easily during the season for little money and mediocre return.

You watch a guy make a few plays on television in a preseason game. You know nothing about his history, practice habits, performance in the games you did not see but we should bring him to replace somebody that you don't like. By the way, the notion that Reese would keep a guy around because of pride is just stupid. First, he cut Austin pretty early in the game, a higher pick than Robinson.

one team, but you're also suggesting he will be cut by the Jets today. that'd be two.

In comment 11833493 jcn56 said:

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because if they are, the fact that Peyton Hillis is a last second decision is worrisome. He's exactly the kind of journeyman that you can pick up relatively easily during the season for little money and mediocre return.

probably keep hillis on roster with cox(if eligible) on ps or keep cox on the roster with gaskins on PS

changed the PS rules. Posted above.

why would we bring in a guy with a calf injury?

In comment 11833499 Eric from BBI said:

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changed the PS rules. Posted above.

guessing cox is eligible then for 1 of the 2 extra spots

In comment 11833501 Sir-Yes-Sir said:

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why would we bring in a guy with a calf injury?

Well, if we kept Manningham all we'd need is a guy with concussion problems and we could piece together one healthy WR out of them.

In comment 11833483 Eric from BBI said:

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Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 1m Been hearing Giants may keep just 3 RBs, plus one on PS. ... RT @JordanRaanan: It appears RB Peyton Hillis will be a last-minute decision.

Hillis looked good in the Pats game. I think if they only carry 3 RBs, Hillis is better than Cox in just about every aspect of the game. Give me a guy who can pick up the blitz and catch a ball out of the flat any day of the week, especially if that guy is only going to be your #3 RB.

Wonder if McAdoo has any interest.

In comment 11833496 Samiam said:

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You watch a guy make a few plays on television in a preseason game. You know nothing about his history, practice habits, performance in the games you did not see but we should bring him to replace somebody that you don't like. By the way, the notion that Reese would keep a guy around because of pride is just stupid. First, he cut Austin pretty early in the game, a higher pick than Robinson.

Then what reason is Robinson still on this team? What exactly has he shown that warrants a roster spot?

Brown is apparently near 100%.

They made cuts to TE, and a FB.

In comment 11833510 The_Taxman said:

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In comment 11833496 Samiam said: Quote: You watch a guy make a few plays on television in a preseason game. You know nothing about his history, practice habits, performance in the games you did not see but we should bring him to replace somebody that you don't like. By the way, the notion that Reese would keep a guy around because of pride is just stupid. First, he cut Austin pretty early in the game, a higher pick than Robinson. Then what reason is Robinson still on this team? What exactly has he shown that warrants a roster spot?

athleticism and ability to catch passes and ok blocking

him after Lions game and then salary is on game-by-game basis.

He's a guy I'd take a look at. 6'6", 215 pounds. I believe he was 2nd in receiving for the Lions last year. He had a pretty good year overall.

In comment 11833512 Mason said:

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They made cuts to TE, and a FB.

extra OL is 1,other probably defensive side at either DL(10th) or DB(11th)

In comment 11833514 CGiants07 said:

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In comment 11833510 The_Taxman said: Quote: In comment 11833496 Samiam said: Quote: You watch a guy make a few plays on television in a preseason game. You know nothing about his history, practice habits, performance in the games you did not see but we should bring him to replace somebody that you don't like. By the way, the notion that Reese would keep a guy around because of pride is just stupid. First, he cut Austin pretty early in the game, a higher pick than Robinson. Then what reason is Robinson still on this team? What exactly has he shown that warrants a roster spot? athleticism and ability to catch passes and ok blocking

Ability to catch passes? Really? Okay.....

In comment 11833250 Dry Lightning said:

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I think this team is on a rocket ride to the 2015 number one pick.

That might not be such a bad thing. With the QB that will be sitting there at the top of the draft, it wouldn't be the worst result for the long-term.

In comment 11833520 The_Taxman said:

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In comment 11833514 CGiants07 said: Quote: In comment 11833510 The_Taxman said: Quote: In comment 11833496 Samiam said: Quote: You watch a guy make a few plays on television in a preseason game. You know nothing about his history, practice habits, performance in the games you did not see but we should bring him to replace somebody that you don't like. By the way, the notion that Reese would keep a guy around because of pride is just stupid. First, he cut Austin pretty early in the game, a higher pick than Robinson. Then what reason is Robinson still on this team? What exactly has he shown that warrants a roster spot? athleticism and ability to catch passes and ok blocking Ability to catch passes? Really? Okay.....

also 1 of the few tight ends on the roster with contract past this year

Than cox...but paid more $$$.
If he gets cut its to save $$$..that sucks

Hillis and Cox. Hillis all the way. I don't care how much more he makes, he is worth it should we lose Jennings or Williams.

Wow...that would mean only 5 roster spots used on QBs and RBs.

I guess that would be to make extra room for OL and DL?

In comment 11833546 Exit 172 said:

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Wow...that would mean only 5 roster spots used on QBs and RBs. I guess that would be to make extra room for OL and DL?

Or maybe keep a roster spot to pick someone up. You can't throw a dart at the waiver list and not find a better RB candidate than Hillis, the guy is slower than molasses.

Personally,I could care less if he's cut or not. But, there are lots of players who did nothing for 2 or 3 years and became very good football players afterwards. Check out the careers of Amai Toomer and Cory Webster. Robinson was drafted as a project and they knew they would get nothing after his rookie season especially when he came to camp late because of school. Last year was a waste because of injury. I would not have a problem if they kept him around as a 3rd TE.

In comment 11833540 Spock said:

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Hillis and Cox. Hillis all the way. I don't care how much more he makes, he is worth it should we lose Jennings or Williams.

My guess is Cox is better or more versatile on special teams.

a turnstile in Zona last year and only given a quick look by the Hawks. Seems shot to me.

do they get to keep the piano he's been carrying on his back?

Sense for them to keep Cox over Hillis.

45 minutes. Things should start happening

In comment 11833101 j_rud said:

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he's become a great example of just how quickly the fortunes of an NFL player can turn and how quickly an athlete can be robbed of what makes him special. Even before the famous Super Bowl toe drag he had made plenty of plays that put his athleticism on display. Anyone remember the bubble screen against Washington that he somehow managed to take to the house? He has some incredible skills. Then he cashes in on the hard work and success, technically goes home to join another contender where he's expected to be one of the missing pieces to get them over the hump and...poof...he's gone. I hope everyone has the 2012 season on DVR because it was obvious then and many stated it: that was the best trio of receivers we had ever or are likely to see again.

An Echo of Steve Smith. . .

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Ralph Vacchiano ‏@RVacchianoNYDN 40s

WR Julian Talley was waived by the Giants. ... By my count, 4 moves to go ... Follow along here: http://nydn.us/Z23cip

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http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2014/08/giants_roster_2014_track_saturdays_cuts_live_right_here.html

But has a great way of putting his head down, finding the tiniest little crease in the hard-to-get yards situation.

No!