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New York Giants Official Roster Moves

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 4:10 pm

Veteran wide receivers Mario Manningham (calf) and Trindon Holliday (hamstring) were placed on injured reserve.

The contracts of four vested veterans were terminated: quarterback Curtis Painter, fullback John Conner, tight end Kellen Davis and defensive end Israel Idonije.

Cornerback Bennett Jackson, a sixth-round selection from Notre Dame, was the only 2014 draft choice waived by the Giants.

Tackle Rogers Gaines (shoulder) was waived/injured.

Twelve other players were waived, including two – running back Michael Cox and wide receiver Julian Talley - who played for the Giants last season.

Also waived were running back Kendall Gaskins; tackles Mark Asper and Adam Gress; guard Jamaal Johnson-Webb; linebackers Terrell Manning and Dan Fox; defensive backs Chandler Fenner and Thomas Gordon; defensive tackle Kelcy Quarles; and defensive end Jordan Stanton.

Guard Eric Herman and cornerback Jayron Hosley were placed on the reserve/suspended list. Herman had previously been suspended by the NFL for four games for violating the league’s policy on performance enhancing substances. Hosley is beginning his previously-announced four-game ban for violating the league’s policy on substances of abuse. Both players are eligible to return to the Giants’ active roster on Friday, September 26, following the previous night’s game in Washington.

Finally, linebacker Jon Beason passed his physical. He is on the 53-man roster and is eligible to practice and play. Beason has been sidelined since suffering a foot injury in an offseason practice on June 12.

The current 53-man roster, which, of course, is subject to change at any time:

Offense (25)

QB (2): Eli Manning, Ryan Nassib

RB (3): Rashad Jennings, Peyton Hillis, Andre Williams

FB (1): Henry Hynoski

WR (6): Victor Cruz, Rueben Randle, Jerrel Jernigan, Odell Beckham Jr., Preston Parker, Corey Washington

TE (3): Larry Donnell, Daniel Fells, Adrien Robinson

OL (10): Will Beatty, Geoff Schwartz, J.D. Walton, Brandon Mosley, Justin Pugh, John Jerry, Weston Richburg, Charles Brown, James Brewer, Dallas Reynolds

Defense (25)

DL (10): Mathias Kiwanuka, Jason Pierre-Paul, Cullen Jenkins, Johnathan Hankins, Robert Ayers Jr., Mike Patterson, Markus Kuhn, Damontre Moore, Jay Bromley, Kerry Wynn

LB (6): Jon Beason, Jameel McClain, Jacquian Williams, Devon Kennard, Spencer Paysinger, Mark Herzlich

DB (9): Prince Amukamara, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Antrel Rolle, Stevie Brown, Walter Thurmond III, Trumaine McBride, Quintin Demps, Nat Berhe, Zack Bowman

Special Teams (3)

Kicker: Josh Brown

Punter: Steve Weatherford

Snapper: Zak DeOssie

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lets revisit these comments Â

DavidinBMNY : 8/30/2014 6:09 pm : link

After tomorrow and the waiver wire action

when Â

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 6:11 pm : link

all is said and done, there really isn't anyone on this cut list where you say, "OMG, how could they cut him?"

It shows you the state of the roster.

RE: when Â

spike : 8/30/2014 6:12 pm : link

In comment 11833921 Eric from BBI said:

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all is said and done, there really isn't anyone on this cut list where you say, "OMG, how could they cut him?"

It shows you the state of the roster.

yep I wish there were more cuts. Hopefully we can get a few vets in here.

RE: RE: RE: RE: I re-watched the Patriots game and Gaines was playing through Â

Canton : 8/30/2014 6:14 pm : link

In comment 11833896 AcidTest said:

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You keep Gaines, and just deactivate him every week, like we've done with other players.

I feel you only keep Gaines on the active roster if you're absolutely sure he won't get pass the waiver wire. Otherwise, you injured/waive him and designated a phantom injury, then put him on your PS.

re Hosley Â

Eric from BBI : Admin : 8/30/2014 6:15 pm : link

in this case, drug use may have payed off.

RE: I believe short term IR he still takes up a spot in the roster. Â

Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 6:30 pm : link

In comment 11833808 Blue21 said:

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If it did, why would anyone use it?

Coughlin's Â

RetroJint : 8/30/2014 6:33 pm : link

mindlessly stubborn insistence in keeping veterans like Brewer & Kuhn.....who kept them as rookies? Who is mindless? Coughlin can cut a team down much better than you guys.

Eric Â

Steve in South Jersey : 8/30/2014 6:33 pm : link

Yes, Helsey benefited from his drug suspension. Allowing drug violators to benefit like that seems like a strange rule by the NFL.

RE: Brown, Brewer, Robinson and Herzich Â

Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 6:33 pm : link

In comment 11833916 Jimmy Googs said:

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all suck at their jobs.

Maybe they could switch

RE: when Â

Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 6:35 pm : link

In comment 11833921 Eric from BBI said:

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all is said and done, there really isn't anyone on this cut list where you say, "OMG, how could they cut him?"

It shows you the state of the roster.

yep, and there are still a bunch of OMGs, how could you keep him?

eric Â

SBlue46 : 8/30/2014 6:46 pm : link

I was thinking same about holsey...but is he worth
saving..he really sucks lately. .ill bet he gets cut as soon
as they pick up a few cbs on ps. ...
just noticed. .Wynn made it...thats a big statement

Brewer did play well this summer Â

djm : 8/30/2014 7:08 pm : link

Which has been discussed throughout the summer. He sucked the last few years but he did play well this preseason. Maybe the lightbulb switched on. Not sure how he did two nights ago though...

I doubt brewer was retained simply because Reese and Coughlin are incompetent. Something tells me that the staff thinks brewer can help this team.

Keeping Charles Brown on the roster is a joke. Â

Klaatu : 8/30/2014 7:13 pm : link

He sucked in practice, he sucked in games. The Saints couldn't wait to march him out of New Orleans and with good reason.

James Brewer is another joke. I saw more from Rogers Gaines in three games than I have from Brewer in three years.

I wish we kept Will Hill Â

spike : 8/30/2014 7:13 pm : link

instead of Hosley, but I guess Will was a lost cause.

I'd also love to know how Markus Kuhn made the final 53? Â

Klaatu : 8/30/2014 7:22 pm : link

He must be awesome in practice because he stunk up the joint in every preseason game he was in.

RE: I'd also love to know how Markus Kuhn made the final 53? Â

Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 7:25 pm : link

In comment 11834026 Klaatu said:

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He must be awesome in practice because he stunk up the joint in every preseason game he was in.

I read that he brings the coaches donuts. I think it was on Giants.com

He's German, Bill. Â

Klaatu : 8/30/2014 7:26 pm : link

He's probably bringing them strudel.

If I missed it Â

Russ in Cleveland : 8/30/2014 7:33 pm : link

I apologize, but three running backs? It doesn't seem we have ever done that. Am I missing something?

Russ Â

Klaatu : 8/30/2014 7:40 pm : link

I figure they'll stash one or two on the practice squad, and worst case scenario, they can always take one off his couch, like they did with Hillis.

Both McBride & Hosely were beaten like drums all preseason ... Â

Manny in CA : 8/30/2014 7:41 pm : link

And Fenner gets cut ?

Jernigan was hanging by a thread till Harris 9ho looked like a play-maker) got hurt.

Neither Robinson nor Brewer could make any other team - shows the sorry state of the O-line and TE situation.

Keeping only three Backs Â

Mike L. : 8/30/2014 7:43 pm : link

has been done before, so it's not unprecedented. In regards to no OMG cuts, I can't remember when we've had one that went on to do great things elsewhere. McCants is a guy most here couldn't wait to show the door to and is doing fine in Oakland. I'm starting to wonder about the O-Line coaching.

the Kuhn love is weird Â

SHO'NUFF : 8/30/2014 7:45 pm : link

the man has done nothing and showed even less when given the chance.

RE: Both McBride & Hosely were beaten like drums all preseason ... Â

Dunedin81 : 8/30/2014 7:51 pm : link

In comment 11834053 Manny in CA said:

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Hosley probably would have been cut if he wasn't going to be suspended. This is a way of holding onto him in case of injury, nothing wagered.

I was fan Â

SBlue46 : 8/30/2014 7:54 pm : link

Of Kuhn but dont expect much. HE WILL have a
leg injury soon..always does...keep Quarles around...
Patterson also is a so so old guy..why not upgrade

RE: RE: Both McBride & Hosely were beaten like drums all preseason ... Â

Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 7:55 pm : link

Quote:

In comment 11834069 Dunedin81 said:

Hosley probably would have been cut if he wasn't going to be suspended. This is a way of holding onto him in case of injury, nothing wagered.

So if someone gets hurt, we still have the rights to a guy who sucks. Not sure I get it :)

is it just me Â

bc4life : 8/30/2014 8:15 pm : link

Did Brewer and Brown play well enough to make the roster?

Isn't one bad tackle enough, or am I not seeing this right?

surprised about Jackson Â

bc4life : 8/30/2014 8:33 pm : link

for the same reason as another poster - it's a passing league. we keep many linemen and 5 corners?

Congrats to young Kerry Wynn. They must see something special if they cut Idonije. Hope he isn't another one of those sleepers who never wakes up.

RE: the Kuhn love is weird Â

jeff57 : 8/30/2014 8:36 pm : link

In comment 11834061 SHO'NUFF said:

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the man has done nothing and showed even less when given the chance.

Agree. Haven't been impressed.

Coaches must love donuts Â

Steve in South Jersey : 8/30/2014 8:43 pm : link

smart move by Kuhn.

Cutting the #6 CB should be that much of a surprise Â

BillT : 8/30/2014 9:22 pm : link

Jackson would not have been active short of injuries and will certainly make the PS. A 5th DE is a good trade off for a 6th CB.

Should not Â

BillT : 8/30/2014 9:24 pm : link

Ugh

Hey Jerry,how about another schnitzengruben Â

ghost718 : 8/30/2014 9:26 pm : link

Mongo want to make team

Thanks for posting the depth chart... Â

EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 8/30/2014 9:27 pm : link

it really opened my eyes as to how little talent there is on this Offense. We have Eli and Cruz who could start on many teams in the league. After that, maybe Jennings and Hynoski. The rest of the offense would most likely not have a starting job on any of the teams that made the playoffs last year.

I am really not sure why they cut Conner and Cox. They are going to need both of them before it is all over.

Cox will not be needed Â

Some Fan : 8/30/2014 9:49 pm : link

because he stunk

I could MAYBE understand why they kept Kuhn if he were young Â

Greg from LI : 8/30/2014 10:07 pm : link

But the guy is something like 28 years old and still considered to be raw and undeveloped. Even if he developed into a player, he'd only be a couple of years from retirement by then.

Kuhn has maybe one more season left to show something Â

spike : 8/30/2014 10:09 pm : link

until his rookie contract expires

Actually, it's very common among head coaches in the NFL Â

nicky43 : 8/30/2014 10:44 pm : link

to prefer Veterans over Rookies when there is not much seperation between the two. They like to build up a player's confidence before they put them in.

Some fan.. Â

EricJ (formerly Tyleraimee) : 8/30/2014 11:06 pm : link

please tell me how Cox stunk. He did everything that was asked of him. He did not miss assignments. He ran hard, etc. Now, if you want to say that he did not play well enough to start, then ok. BUT That does not mean he stunk.

RE: Kuhn has maybe one more season left to show something Â

Bill in UT : 8/30/2014 11:38 pm : link

In comment 11834194 spike said:

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until his rookie contract expires

How many guys can go right from a rookie contract into Medicare?

Robinson Â

BigBlueCane : 8/30/2014 11:52 pm : link

has no business making the team let alone playing.

If you can edit the thread's initial post, Â

Exit 172 : 8/31/2014 12:17 am : link

it should end at "Snapper: Zak DeOssie".

That is Â

natefit : 8/31/2014 8:55 am : link

a really mediocre 53. TC is a top coach but hes not a magician. If anyone can convince me how this team is better than a non-playoff 8-8, Im all ears...

Must have missed it Â

Montreal Man : 8/31/2014 9:06 am : link

What happened to "Soup" Harris?

MM Â

LPete : 8/31/2014 9:08 am : link

On IR. With a labrum injury to his shoulder / hip/ somewhere

Harris got hurt, John. Â

Klaatu : 8/31/2014 9:08 am : link

Has to have surgery on his hip. They put him on IR.

Eric's post at 6:11.... Â

Emlen'sGremlins : 8/31/2014 9:46 am : link

....Says It All.

Klaatu Â

Montreal Man : 8/31/2014 2:29 pm : link

Thanks. Knew he got hurt but missed what they did with him.

5 things needed for this to be a playoff squad (among others). Â

manh george : 8/31/2014 3:00 pm : link

--OL needs to surprise.

--One of the TE needs to step up.

--Beckham needs to start contributing quickly when he gets healthy.

--DL need to show that they can actually get sacks.

--Either RBs stay surprisingly healthy, or they pick up a #4 rb with some talent on waivers. RB really is thin.

This all assumes #6, which is that Eli is a lot better than he looked in preseason.

RE: 5 things needed for this to be a playoff squad (among others). Â

Montreal Man : 9/1/2014 9:19 am : link

In comment 11834967 manh george said:

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Yup. That about sums it up.

Cox has zero impact Â

Some Fan : 9/1/2014 9:26 am : link

The best I can say is that he didn't miss as many blocks as Wilson but he did not flash at all. He made no impact plays as far as I can remember. Ergo, he was cut in a year we lost our first-round RB. I think the coaches see a guy who may know his plays but not much else.

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