Had my 12 team draft last night pick 7 .5 per 4 point passing td what do you guys think?
Foles
Lynch
Jennings
Dez bryant
Keenan allen
Kendall Wright
Jordan Reed
Gould
Browns
Bench
Bernard pierce
Shonn Greene
Joique bell
Marcus Wheaton
Rod Streator
Ladarius green
I'd much rather have Roddy than a 35 year old Reggie Wayne coming off an ACL tear. And this is coming from someone who owns Wayne in my only league so far.
Roddy White being an injury concern is a misnomer (credit to robbieballs). He missed his only 3 games of his career last year. He tried fighting through injuries and that's why he struggled last year. There is absolutely no way Roddy White is more of an injury concern than Julio Jones. No shot.
Look at Nicks for us, he played hurt without practice 2 years ago, was mostly ineffective and people are glad to see him go. Eli will miss Nicks more than anything else this year. If Reggie Wayne didn't have Hakeem Nicks stealing looks I'd venture to say that Wayne will be more productive than Victor Cruz because Cruz doesn't have Hakeem Nicks. Weird but true.
I like Roddy, I don't trust Ryan. Nicks will be a sleeper
Look at Nicks for us, he played hurt without practice 2 years ago, was mostly ineffective and people are glad to see him go. Eli will miss Nicks more than anything else this year. If Reggie Wayne didn't have Hakeem Nicks stealing looks I'd venture to say that Wayne will be more productive than Victor Cruz because Cruz doesn't have Hakeem Nicks. Weird but true.
I like Roddy, I don't trust Ryan. Nicks will be a sleeper
There's no doubt he struggled last year. He tried fighting through injuries. It happens. Doesn't mean he's automatically an injury concern. Look at his last 5 games when he was finally healthy.
10 receptions, 143 yards
8 receptions, 74 yards
5 receptions, 53 yards
12 receptions, 141 yards, 1 TD
8 receptions, 91 yards, 1 TD
I'm not trying to be hypersensitive about Roddy White. It's just I felt the same way as you a couple of weeks back. I assumed his body was just breaking down. But it seems like he just tried playing through an injury when he should have sat out.
I'm not in love with Ryan, but I don't think he'll hurt Roddy's production all that much.
I do like Reggie Wayne too though. He has great value at where he's getting picked.
Gio will have slightly more value in a PPR league but you are much better off grabbing Gronk in the 3rd and Shane Vereen in the 4th. Vereen > Gio without question.
Top 5 WR rankings in PPR:
Calvin
Dez
Marshall
Julio Jones
AJGreen. (Dalton sucks)
The best 2 IDPs that nobody's drafting:
Shazier
Kirksey
Both potential top 10 tacklers this year.
Don't draft any Giants unless you're going to trade them to a Giants homer.
If you don't draft Peyton Manning, load up elsewhere and grab Brady in the 6th or 7th.
Phillip Rivers or Ben Roethlisberger > Foles/Ryan/Dalton
And yes, in a 6pt per TD league, Peyton Manning is the # 1 pick.
Meh, if you can get Brees in the 2nd rd, I think the value is just as good (if not slightly better) than Peyton in the 1st. Especially at #1 overall. I think their numbers are going to be much closer this year than people think.
Peyton will still almost certainly be the best QB, but he's not going to throw 55 TD passes again. He and Brees will converge a bit and finish pretty close to each other, IMO.. and I don't think Rodgers will be that far behind, either.
I forget who it was on bbi, but someone convinced me of his value and I became higher on Bernard, the more I researched him. Regardless of Hill's role, which probably won't be even as much as Benjarvis' role last year, Bernard has a lot of value. He was the 12th ranked RB last year despite getting 50 less carries than Green-Ellis. He really came on after week 3 and he was 2nd on the team in receptions. Bernard is electric and is going to be a bigger part of the offense than Hill who did great against backups in the preseason. I'd guess that Bernard will get at least 65% of the snaps at RB. He's a good runner, he's a good pass catcher and he's good by the goalline.
Whenever you try to predict what Bill Belichick is going to do at RB, you end up disappointed. There's usually value there, but you never know what he's going to do. Recent history suggests that he likes sharing time at RB a lot. The hype that Vereen has gotten this offseason is making him extremely overvalued. He very well could have limited value in fantasy football. He has no history of success and he's playing for a very unpredictable coach who's shared touches a lot recently. Pass on Vereen in the 4th.
Gronk in the 3rd is extremely risky. When healthy, he's got rd 1/2 talent, but he's coming back from a major knee injury that he sustained shortly after missing a ton of time from a major back injury. He's about as risky as they come and the upside from rd 3 is extremely risky. I love Gronk, but I'm not taking a shot on him in rd 3.
My WR rankings are similar, Calvin, Thomas, Dez, AJ Green, Marshall, Julio. AJ Green has had dalton for two years and put up insane numbers both years. Not sure why he will fall off now because "Dalton sucks".
What happened to TY Hilton? He caught 82 passes last year in that offense.
This isn't really predicting what Belichick is going to do at RB; Shane Vereen is a WR in a RBs body as far as that offense goes. He's just another weapon for that team, what Ridley or James White does has no impact on Shane Vereen whatsoever.
Him having no history of success is just flat out wrong. When he was healthy last year, he produced.
Giovani Bernard in 16 games - 1209 total yards, 56 receptions, 8 TDs
Shane Vereen in 8 games - 635 total yards, 47 receptions, 4 TDs
Shane Vereen was on pace to having the same type of season as Gio with yards and TDs, but a shit load more receptions. Now those numbers are skewed because pace is a rough thing to estimate and Gio Bernard is getting a bigger role this year. But that's why Gio Bernard is a 2nd round pick (you got a steal in the 3rd) and Shane Vereen is a 4-5 round pick.
You're way off base here IMO. The only concern I have for Vereen is him staying on the field.
Rock.. I just drafted in a league that is 6 pts for pass TD's last week. Peyton went 9th overall and I took Brees at 16. Rodgers went 25th.
And Stafford is the 5th best QB in this class, IMO. Not even an option? That's lunacy.
2011: 5 games-57 total yards
2012: 13 games=400 total yards
2013: 8 games=635 total yards
Vereen went on a nice streak of catching balls, including a 12 catch game, but that doesn't change the fact that there is no history of success for a season. Partly because he hasn't been on the field for a full season, but that needs to be factored in.
Vereen is most certainly going to be a part of NE's offense, but to me, the 4th round is way too high considering his upside. He gets no carries, he gets little to no goalline work and he's quite inconsistent week to week.
If I had to predict Bernard's season best case scenario:
1000 yards rushing
11 total TD's
65 catches
559 yards
That would put him right in the #5 range, below the top tier RB's.
Player Note Fri, Aug 29
The Bengals' website suggests the team "must have thunder and lightning dancing through their heads" following rookie Jeremy Hill's performance in Thursday night's preseason finale.
Advice: Given a whopping 26 touches, Hill totaled 160 yards while earning the respect of teammates. Terence Newman and Jason Campbell both praised Hill for the effort, which included a funny-bone injury from which Hill returned to put the game away. Bengals.com's Geoff Hobson noted that Hill's workload "typified what new (OC) Hue Jackson wants," as he demonstrated "power," "speed," "vision," and "creativity," particularly on a weaving 41-yard screen pass where Hill "deked" a safety. Hill also "picked up a couple of blitzes," although he missed one, resulting in a sack of Campbell. Hill's ADP has climbed into the late-ninth-round, where he remains a value pick. Hill and Gio Bernard are expected to share carries this season in the "Thunder and Lightning" committee.
More: bengals.com
(Rotoworld.com)
Doesn't get any plainer than that. Are the HC and OC lying? Do you have a connection more inside than the HC and the OC?
I couldn't possibly care less how few carries he has. It's all about total yardage and amount of receptions if you're in a PPR league. Him getting TDs is a concern legitimate concern.
4th round is an OK spot. I love him as a 5th rounder.
Regarding the thunder and lightening or any time share, it's the opinion of a writer based on preseason results. I do think Hill is going to snake some carries, but Bernard will get the majority of the touches and be extremely valuable for fantasy purposes.
Btw, I like Brees, what's not to like but Personally I'd rather have ARod.
Stafford's primed for a great year but in a league that penalizes for INTs he's an after thought and I'm grabbing Brady in the 6th.
Btw, I like Brees, what's not to like but Personally I'd rather have ARod.
Stafford's primed for a great year but in a league that penalizes for INTs he's an after thought and I'm grabbing Brady in the 6th.
Dude, it's all relative. The top 5 fantasy players were QB's.
Just because he has Peyton doesn't mean he's going to win the league. That's silly.
Defend it all you want, Gio taken anywhere ahead of Vereen was a bad pick...
Please, do tell...
Bernard was terrible value in the 3rd round because Hill, who had a great preseason against all backups, is going to "share carries" with Bernard. Forget that Bernard had 44% of the carries last year and was still the 12th ranked RB.
Draft Peyton 1 overall in 6 pt per TD leagues because he scores more points than everyone else. You can't lose.
Reggie Wayne is the WR to have on the Colts and Nicks is going to cut into his production.
Matt Ryan sucks which means Roddy White won't have value.
What did I miss?
You go on telling people To draft Gio in the 2nd and I'll keep taking Vereen in the 5th and Jeremy Hill in the 9th.
Just because Peyton will score the most points overall doesn't mean you draft him #1 overall. It's not QB vs QB. Your team accumulates points as a whole. Taking Peyton 1st overall means you don't get a single RB or WR until the 20th and 21st picks
If you take McCoy first, and you can get Alshon or Nelson + Rodgers with your next 2 picks, wouldn't you much rather have an elite RB, an elite QB + a WR1 just outside of Tier 1 and right at the top of Tier 2?
If you take Peyton first, the best you're probably going to do at RB is Bell, Morris or Martin.
Personally, I would take the trio of McCoy, Jeffery and Rodgers over Peyton, Bell and Jeffery because I think the gap between McCoy and Bell is larger than the gap between Peyton and Rodgers
Leagues than give 6pts per TD and Peyton goes 9th?
Rocky Thompson : 3:50 pm : link : reply
I would agree but I don't think Matt Ryan is that good. With Julio all you have to do is get it close and he does the rest, I would consider Roddy a bigger injury risk than Julio. I'm much more comfortable with Reggie Wayne than Roddy White. I have, however, put some stock in Steven Jackson as an RB 3/ flex in deeper leagues, could be a valuable sleeper when healthy.
Ryan sucks, yet have you seen the seasons White has put up with Ryan at QB? Reggie Wayne is coming off an ACL tear, White was battling a lower leg injury(no surgery). Roddy White is arguably the most durable WR in the game. Take a look at his track record. He's played 16 games every single season except last season when he gutted out 13. Yet you trust Wayne over Roddy to stay healthy and produce because Luck is better than Ryan. Makes perfect sense.
It's like playing cards with my kids here...
Here's a hint: take Jeremy Hill in the 9th, you won't be disappointed...
Thanks for the banter kmed, I do listen to some things you suggest
(Zips lips tight and leaves on a high note...)
QB Newton. Rivers
RB Mccoy, Leveon Bell, Terrence west, Fred Jackson, Christine Michael
WR Julio, Vincent Jackson, Kendall WRight, Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin
TE Julius THomas, Rob Gronk
K Dawson
Def Chiefs, Browns