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MarshallOnMontana : 8/31/2014 10:52 am
I guess we can put this in one thread like the nba thread. Team usa plays later this afternoon. Right now on nba tv its france and serbia about to enter the 4th with france down 2, trying to avoid an 0-2 start. Even without parker and noah france still entered this tourney thinking they could medal. This would be a brutal start. Lost a nail biter to brazil in their first game

Croatia beat argentina (minus manu) despite 30 from luis scola. Spain won their first game behind 33 from pau. Ibaka did not play (hammy), but is expected shortly
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By far  
dep026 : 9/9/2014 4:51 pm : link
Rose's best game.
Harden came alive in the 2nd half though  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/9/2014 5:14 pm : link
after the awful awful 1st half. I'm happy that he bounced back like that.

I think Coach K is making a mistake by not going to the Cousins/Davis frontcourt more often. Because this is going to come down to Spain and it's going to come down to Pau Gasol. And Anthony Davis needs to be guarding Pau. Davis is a shot-blocking beast but not a good low-post man defender yet, but he is easily our best option against Pau. Davis' best game last year happened when he utterly dominated the Lakers and Pau in a head to head matchup.

So either you'll have Davis guarding Marc and Faried guarding Pau, which is a recipe for disaster. Or you have Cousins/Drummond in the game guarding Marc and Davis guarding Pau. Faried has been an animal in this tourney outworking lesser athletes, but against the big boy athletes of Spain he becomes less useful. I don't think we can beat Spain with Faried getting heavy minutes guarding one of the Gasol's.
france opens up game on an 11 to 2 run vs spain  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 4:12 pm : link
Spain answers with a 10-2 run. Now 13-12 france. game on espn2

serbia beat brazil down today, very surprising. Theyll play the winner of france v spain. Usa will play lithuania to round out the final 4
france opens up game on an 11 to 2 run vs spain  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 4:13 pm : link
Spain answers with a 10-2 run. Now 13-12 france. game on espn2

serbia beat brazil down today, very surprising. Theyll play the winner of france v spain. Usa will play lithuania to round out the final 4
potential major upset alert  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 4:42 pm : link
Tune in if you can. France without tony parker and noah (but with batum, diaw, gobert among others) up 7 at half against spain in madrid. If spain gets knocked out in the round of 8 with no chance to medal, thats catastrophic. Especially as the host city, but even if they werent it would still be
Upset alert  
EricNY33 : 9/10/2014 4:49 pm : link
only up 7 at halftime? If they were up 17 I'd probably co-sign this. Not only up 7.
key word potential  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 4:58 pm : link
And a fiba half is not as long as an nba half

id still expect spain to win, but this is crisis time
a France  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/10/2014 5:03 pm : link
win would be huge for the US because I think Spain is the favorite with their frontcourt size advantage they possess against us.

Faried has been awesome this tournament but I don't like him against Spain should we play them because he can't shoot.
as well  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/10/2014 5:04 pm : link
as the location of the games
spain is getting the benefit  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 5:06 pm : link
Of every whistle and non whistle in this 3rd.

spain is our biggest threat  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 5:15 pm : link
But I would still clearly favor us. I would love to watch france with their full team

espn needs to do something about these graphics. You can barely read the clock its so dark

diaw!  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 5:25 pm : link
France up 6 in the 4th. Spain getting tight
gobert is all over the floor tonight  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 5:26 pm : link
With his 7'8 wingspan

spain 2 for 19 from three.
damn  
PaulBlakeTSU : 9/10/2014 5:27 pm : link
Spain is a bigger threat to the US, but I would still rather watch a USA vs. Spain game. More star power-- though I love my man Boris
I was just about  
EricNY33 : 9/10/2014 5:27 pm : link
to say... Rudy Gobert actually looks GOOD in International ball!
Spain's  
EricNY33 : 9/10/2014 5:34 pm : link
defense is horrible.
Joe  
EricNY33 : 9/10/2014 5:38 pm : link
I tip my cap to you. You warned of the upset, I didn't believe, and you were correct.
that should do it barring a miracle  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 5:39 pm : link
Stunner. Absolute stunner.

France is going to be a force 2 years from now in olympic play if they have their guys. Its an amazing accomplishment to make it to the final 4 so shorthanded
Spain's players  
donald92 : 9/10/2014 5:40 pm : link
might not make it out of the arena alive.
paul  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/10/2014 5:42 pm : link
A part of me is similarly upset that we wont get that heavyweight bout for the 3rd time since 08 in a title game. Its a stunner

eric, I deserve no credit. Im as stunned as anyone, I was just passing along a halftime score
Damn I really wanted to see Spain vs US  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/10/2014 5:46 pm : link
But congrats to France.
This has to be  
donald92 : 9/10/2014 5:49 pm : link
one of the worst losses in Spain's history. Full roster at home against a big underdog.
just tipped vs lithuania  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 3:07 pm : link
Who always gives us competitive games. They are without a couple key players including their pg, but they have valencunas inside, montejunas(sp?) of the rockets, and a bunch of guys who can stroke it from three.

6-4 early lithuania. Serbia vs france tommorow in the other game. Final on sunday
Lituanian Women  
dep026 : 9/11/2014 3:07 pm : link
yum yum.
Klay  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 3:13 pm : link
Thompson is a fantastic player.
we have 7 team fouls in 3 1/2 minutes  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 3:13 pm : link
3 starters with 2 early, this is crazy
About 4 phantom fouls  
dep026 : 9/11/2014 3:13 pm : link
on the USA. The 2nd foul on Harden was utterly ridiculous.
The fact  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 3:14 pm : link
Harden was close enough to someone on defense to get two fouls is the real story.
I never complain about the officials  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 3:15 pm : link
But these first few minutes are a travesty. That travel on rose is a joke
Yup  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 3:18 pm : link
Pretty ridiculous
Klay Thompson has been bigtime  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/11/2014 3:21 pm : link
.
Stem the tide  
dep026 : 9/11/2014 3:23 pm : link
blow em out in the 2nd quarter.
These fouls  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 3:23 pm : link
are ridiculous.
Some Lithuanian player  
dep026 : 9/11/2014 3:35 pm : link
just got sniped.
Our defense  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 3:42 pm : link
looks horrendous right now, IMO.
Harden and Curry  
dep026 : 9/11/2014 3:43 pm : link
who arent good to begin with, played no defense at all in the 2nd.

The Rose/Irving actually worked well. Shocking Coach K didnt use it til now in the 2nd.
Rose  
dep026 : 9/11/2014 3:44 pm : link
has to finish at the basket better. He is getting there easy.
Cousins almost snapped  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/11/2014 3:50 pm : link
Good on him for not getting out of control.
We're up  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 3:55 pm : link
despite playing pretty badly for most of the 1st half and being in ridiculous foul trouble.
Klay's  
santacruzom : 9/11/2014 3:59 pm : link
got a chip on his shoulder by some accounts, and I think we Warriors fans will benefit.
He's a great complementary 3nD player  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/11/2014 4:02 pm : link
But if he can improve his ball-handling and creating, he could hit a completely different level.
klay is going to be a multi time all star  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 4:03 pm : link
I will still disagree with the exclusion of him from the love talks, but he has an awesome future ahead of him. Could one day be the best two way sg in the league
His ability to guard the elite PGs  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/11/2014 4:07 pm : link
Gives him so much value next to Curry, who has no chance guarding those guys. Klay just needs to become better at creating for himself and others off the dribble to be a legit star. If he can do that and allow Curry to play off ball more like Jarret Jack did, the GS offense becomes a nightmare.
we have been crazy dominant in 2nd halves all summer  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 4:11 pm : link
10-0 run to start this one too
RE: klay is going to be a multi time all star  
santacruzom : 9/11/2014 4:12 pm : link
In comment 11856667 MarshallOnMontana said:
Quote:
Could one day be the best two way sg in the league


Word is that the Warriors already think he is. But... well, they've been wrong about their own players before.
10-0 run for US to start the half  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/11/2014 4:12 pm : link
Just like that it's a blowout.
DMo you dumbass  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/11/2014 4:22 pm : link
.
I cant believe training camps open in two weeks  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 4:25 pm : link
Preseason in about 3 weeks. Regular season in 6 or so weeks.

Between an anticipated draft, a crazy free agent period, and now the fiba world cup, it doesnt feel like there has even been an offseason
Actually  
EricNY33 : 9/11/2014 4:33 pm : link
I haven't been that into this World Cup. I've paid attention peripherally but not really into it. I've been watching the knockout round games, though.
I love the way kyrie irving is playing this summer  
MarshallOnMontana : 9/11/2014 4:45 pm : link
He has been sometimes guilty of straying from the offense and over dribbling, but for the most part he has been excellent. He has even shown a defensive pulse. He should benefit as much as anyone from this experience when it comes to translating it to his nba situation. Hes having to fit into an offense without being as ball dominant as usual with the surrounding talent, and thats life from now on for him.
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