NFT: Fantasy: September 2

Julius Thomas and Gronk at the same time?

otherwise, I'd trade one for a RB1 or even a WR1.

and your team would be better.

And why two D's, did you have to draft two D's?

I can't wait. I feel prepped and ready. Which translates to I have no clue who I am taking at the 6th pick. I'm hoping for Lacy, but I have a feeling he will be gone. Leaving me to pick either Peyton, Megatron or Montee Ball. It is a standard scoring keeper league with penalties for fumbles and interceptions. My keepers are R. Cobb, M. Floyd and A. Jeffrey. I'm stacked at WR, so I'm leaning away from C. Johnson. I think Peyton makes the most sense here, but I feel taking a hot shot RB may be the wise move. I hesitate because it is early to take Ball. I just have a feeling it will be the smart thing to do.

I am not considering J. Graham. Taking a TE at no. 6 just seems wrong to me.

one of Gronk or Thomas in the flex spot...

yeah i had to draft 2 kickers and 2 defenses...i dropped my 2nd kicker already...

I know he's had some nice runs in the preseason games, but he's #3 on the depth chart and is out a couple of weeks. Yet I constantly see him drafted well before Robert Turbin. I don't get it.

felt like I came away with one of the better teams. My bench is very high risk/reward though, which I don't mind.

Key player in my draft was Gronk with the 42nd pick. It was the best against-the-ADP pick of my early rounds since he's going around 30 most places, I guess the other teams were just a little scared off by his injuries. He puts up a big year, I should be in fantastic position. If he gets hurt, well then I'm fucked. But I haven't had a great TE in a long time and his ceiling was just too high to pass up that late.

Julio Jones + Reggie Bush OR Cordarelle Patterson + Marshawn Lynch? Which Rd 2/3 duo would you rather have?


nygiants... I think you have a team with a really high ceiling but also some injury risks. Cam is a big one, his rushing totals might do down this year to protect himself from injuries. If Cam has a big year, you should be looking good. Julio Jones and Gronk are also injury risks on your team, but again if both stay healthy you should be looking good. I love the decision to with Julius Thomas and Gronkowski, I didn't have the chance in a 14 team league but it's something I was thinking about doing. There's so much potential trade value there later in the season.

In comment 11837004 YAJ2112 said:

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I know he's had some nice runs in the preseason games, but he's #3 on the depth chart and is out a couple of weeks. Yet I constantly see him drafted well before Robert Turbin. I don't get it.

I will probably end up releasing him but it was a flyer pick....it was the last pick in the draft and i figured why not...

julius, gronk, bell, julio, mccoy

In comment 11837005 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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nygiants... I think you have a team with a really high ceiling but also some injury risks. Cam is a big one, his rushing totals might do down this year to protect himself from injuries. If Cam has a big year, you should be looking good. Julio Jones and Gronk are also injury risks on your team, but again if both stay healthy you should be looking good. I love the decision to with Julius Thomas and Gronkowski, I didn't have the chance in a 14 team league but it's something I was thinking about doing. There's so much potential trade value there later in the season.

Yeah i took Julio after the huge run on Wrs in the 2nd round he was the last of my top tier guys so i took him in the 2nd...

I wa hoping Antonio brown would get to me in the 3rd but he was taken 1 spot before my pick...

Yeah i couldnt pass on thomas and Gronk especially since i can play 1 in my flex position...i got thomas in the 4th and Gronk in the 5th was to good to pass up...

In comment 11837015 CruzShip52 said:

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julius, gronk, bell, julio, mccoy

Peyton and Forte were the first 2 picks so i got Mccoy

Rodgers and Brees both went first round so the big run on wrs didnt start until the 2nd round so i was lucky to get Julio...

Bell fell to me in the 3rd would of probably went antonio brown if he fell to me in the 3rd

Julius and Gronk were both sitting there in the 4th and 5th so i couldnt pass them up..

then somehow got vincent jackson in the 6th...

The league is ful of guys that get QB happy and take Qbs way to early...

In comment 11837018 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 11837005 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said: Quote: nygiants... I think you have a team with a really high ceiling but also some injury risks. Cam is a big one, his rushing totals might do down this year to protect himself from injuries. If Cam has a big year, you should be looking good. Julio Jones and Gronk are also injury risks on your team, but again if both stay healthy you should be looking good. I love the decision to with Julius Thomas and Gronkowski, I didn't have the chance in a 14 team league but it's something I was thinking about doing. There's so much potential trade value there later in the season. Yeah i took Julio after the huge run on Wrs in the 2nd round he was the last of my top tier guys so i took him in the 2nd... I wa hoping Antonio brown would get to me in the 3rd but he was taken 1 spot before my pick... Yeah i couldnt pass on thomas and Gronk especially since i can play 1 in my flex position...i got thomas in the 4th and Gronk in the 5th was to good to pass up...

And with Cam i know he is injury risk thats why i took Rivers in the 10th

I would take Lynch and Patterson, but I am basing that off of my belief that Patterson is going to have a huge season. I think he will put up WR1 numbers. Plus, Lynch is consistently underrated. I don't see how people are taking Montee Ball or Gio over Lynch who, in my opinion, is the #6 overall RB after Lacy, Forte, McCoy, Charles and AP.

Bush will have higher value in PPR, but Bell is going to be the lead guy on the ground in Detroit, the goal-line back, and is also a good pass-catcher in his own right. Julio will have a great season also, but I just think the dropoff from Lynch to Bush is greater than from Julio to Patterson.

geez

i wish i was in your league

In comment 11837030 CruzShip52 said:

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geez i wish i was in your league

the guys in my league get QB happy...i dnt know why but it happens every year and they are not idiots either...

Everyone in the league was concerned with his injury history when i took him everyone was like ho wlong is he going to last...i washappy to take him..

In comment 11837028 TEPLimey said:

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I would take Lynch and Patterson, but I am basing that off of my belief that Patterson is going to have a huge season. I think he will put up WR1 numbers. Plus, Lynch is consistently underrated. I don't see how people are taking Montee Ball or Gio over Lynch who, in my opinion, is the #6 overall RB after Lacy, Forte, McCoy, Charles and AP. Bush will have higher value in PPR, but Bell is going to be the lead guy on the ground in Detroit, the goal-line back, and is also a good pass-catcher in his own right. Julio will have a great season also, but I just think the dropoff from Lynch to Bush is greater than from Julio to Patterson.

Agreed, that's the way I went. I'm hoping Patterson thrives under Norv this year.

In comment 11837005 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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Julio Jones + Reggie Bush OR Cordarelle Patterson + Marshawn Lynch? Which Rd 2/3 duo would you rather have?

Thats a good question....i would rather have Julio than Patterson even with all the hype and i would rathe rhave lynch than Bush...thats tough...

I think Bell is going to steal a lot of points from Bush with red zone carries and them splitting the work load...

I would probably go Patterson and Lynch but thats tough...

I would definitely try to put together some type of package for a QB. You're going to have 1 of Wright, Torrey Smith, Julius, and Gronk riding the bench all season while you're trotting out a gimpy Newton who only has Greg Olsen to throw to or Philip Rivers. Particularly since I think Pitta's return will have a big impact on Smith, you're going to have a lot of points sitting on the bench one way or another otherwise.

easy

Stafford against the stout Giants D or Kapernick vs. the lousy Cowboys D? I also have Calvin.....

Start 1qb, 2 Rb's, 3wr, 1 flex, TE, K, D,

QB Rodgers, Romo
RB McCoy, Morris, Ball, Pierce, Richardson
WR Cobb, Crabtree, V Jax, Harvin Macklin Becky.
TE J. reed
K Seattle
D cinn

In comment 11837046 CruzShip52 said:

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easy

Care to elaborate, because I don't think that's easy at all.

looks like things fell just right for you

In comment 11837045 TEPLimey said:

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I would definitely try to put together some type of package for a QB. You're going to have 1 of Wright, Torrey Smith, Julius, and Gronk riding the bench all season while you're trotting out a gimpy Newton who only has Greg Olsen to throw to or Philip Rivers. Particularly since I think Pitta's return will have a big impact on Smith, you're going to have a lot of points sitting on the bench one way or another otherwise.

I am hoping Kelvin Benjamin really breaks out to help Cam out...Rivers should still have a good year with under year under his belt in the new offense and Ladarius Green having an even bigger role in the offense...

I love my depth at Wr...get vincent Jackson in the 6th felt like such a steal to me, i had a 3rd round grade on him...

With Thomas and Gronk i can play both and i know eventually i am going to get some trade offers for one of them...

I know i am going to hate having Wright on th ebench every week becaus ehe is a PPR monster but it is a good problem to have i guess

is going to be historically bad, tough to pass on kaepernick this week, you cant go wrong with either QB though.



I drafted my 12 team PPR last night, any thoughts are appreciated (QB/WR/WR/RB/FLEX/TE starters):

QB: Kaepernick, Alex Smith
RB: Forte, Vereen, Joique Bell
WR: Jordy, Cruz, Michael Floyd, Welker, Justin Hunter
TE: Ertz, Richard Richards
D/ST: Arizona, NYG
K: Phil Dawson

In comment 11837047 GiantBlue said:

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Stafford against the stout Giants D or Kapernick vs. the lousy Cowboys D? I also have Calvin.....

I think you go Kaepernik even with you having Calvin...its tough to sit Stafford since i am sure he was your 4th or 5th round pick but I think Kaepernik will shred that cowboys defense in the air and on the ground..

I thought my 5th pick dilemma for tomorrow night was limited to Calvin or Lacy.

Now I'm considering Peyton as well.

Goddamnit.

In comment 11837060 NVA_Blue said:

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is going to be historically bad, tough to pass on kaepernick this week, you cant go wrong with either QB though. I drafted my 12 team PPR last night, any thoughts are appreciated (QB/WR/WR/RB/FLEX/TE starters): QB: Kaepernick, Alex Smith RB: Forte, Vereen, Joique Bell WR: Jordy, Cruz, Michael Floyd, Welker, Justin Hunter TE: Ertz, Richard Richards D/ST: Arizona, NYG K: Phil Dawson

If its PPR your RBs will carry your team both are studs in ppr leagues...

have to hope Cruz and Floyd both have good years and welker can stay healthy...

Ertz has been this years sexy pick got to hope he unseats Celek in the passing game...Foles stil loves passing to Celek...

In comment 11837068 arcarsenal said:

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I thought my 5th pick dilemma for tomorrow night was limited to Calvin or Lacy. Now I'm considering Peyton as well. Goddamnit.

Arc is it PPR? 6 or 4 points per throwing tds?

.5 PPR and 6 points for passing TD's

Any of the top 4 picks I'd go one of the RB's. I just can't get crazy about Lacy at 5. Peyton will probably be the highest scoring player in the league.

Is it crazy to take him 5th? I feel like it's not and I'm strongly considering it now.

Yeah it is easy in my book I have jones as a top 5 WR and i have patterson as a top 20 WR I love julio this year and i really dont like patterson at all unless its for his big play potential i dont see him being close to julio

assuming its ppr i love reggie bush this year, as long as he is healthy he will continue to put up huge numbers with receptions, i really just dont like lynch at all this year not sure what it is but i feel a down year is coming for him, even if he was leaps and bounds ahead of bush id still do the trade because you are getting julio

are only thing that makes it close is their injuries. Jones is a monster when healthy and Bush never gets RZ carries so you should already know his value. He will score 5-8 TDs most coming outside of 10 yards.

Patterson may thrive but I'd rather Jobes by a big margin. Lynch is a beast but his vale drops in any sort of PPR, and he doesn't put up monster yardage.

Like I said, health keeps it close but that's my only slight reservation.

In comment 11837075 arcarsenal said:

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.5 PPR and 6 points for passing TD's Any of the top 4 picks I'd go one of the RB's. I just can't get crazy about Lacy at 5. Peyton will probably be the highest scoring player in the league. Is it crazy to take him 5th? I feel like it's not and I'm strongly considering it now.

I dont think its crazy to take Peyton 5...Peyton went 1 in my 10 team league last night...

i dont think Lacy should even be in the thought process...

Its between Calvin and Peyton...here is what you should be thinking about who do you think the guys after you will be taking based on what they have done in years past and do you think if you do take Peyton a Rb or a Wr will fall to you in the 2nd?

me personally i would go Calvin then go either one of Rodgers or Brees if they fall or a top wr if one falls or a RB if one falls...

In my 12 team league i was at 7 and Peyton was sitting there i passed went with Dez and Lynch fell to me because everyone panicked when there was a run on Wrs...i ended up with Foles as my QB...

its realy how you feel the others will draft...

I dont think you can go wrong though with Calvin or Peyton...I think Lacy would be a mistake..

In comment 11837076 CruzShip52 said:

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Yeah it is easy in my book I have jones as a top 5 WR and i have patterson as a top 20 WR I love julio this year and i really dont like patterson at all unless its for his big play potential i dont see him being close to julio assuming its ppr i love reggie bush this year, as long as he is healthy he will continue to put up huge numbers with receptions, i really just dont like lynch at all this year not sure what it is but i feel a down year is coming for him, even if he was leaps and bounds ahead of bush id still do the trade because you are getting julio

I guess my issue there is that I see no reason to be down on Lynch. He's on the right side of 30, was a monster in fantasy last year (#4 overall), and will not split carries with anyone. Seattle will run the ball a ton this year and Lynch is going to see 25+ touches a game and 30+ receptions to boot. There's really no reason to expect a decline from him.

Bush, will see probably 30-35 more receptions and 100 less touches on the ground than Lynch, plus he will see limited goal-line work.

Lynch over Bush every day of the week in fantasy...Lynch wil get so many more touches than Bush plus red zone carries...even with a lesser workload...

The question becomes how much better do you think Julio Jones is than Cordarelle patterson and is the difference enough to make up for the difference between Bush and Lynch

To be clear, I mean that Lynch will see 30+ receptions for the season and Bush will see somewhere around 60.

Here's my rationale with Peyton..

I feel like if I take him at 5, at least one or 2 guys will panic and take Brees and/or Rodgers before my next pick (10 team league) which makes me feel like I may be able to get Ball in the 2nd. If I could get Brown in the 3rd I think that would be an awesome way to start. I'd have the top QB and the very top Tier 2 players at both WR and RB.

If I take Calvin, I'd be torn.. because if I took Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd, I'd be left with those 3rd rd RB's whom I'm not crazy about. Then if I wait, I could wind up with a Jennings as my RB1 which is... meh. I just don't want to get caught with nothing I really like at RB.

In comment 11837075 arcarsenal said:

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.5 PPR and 6 points for passing TD's Any of the top 4 picks I'd go one of the RB's. I just can't get crazy about Lacy at 5. Peyton will probably be the highest scoring player in the league. Is it crazy to take him 5th? I feel like it's not and I'm strongly considering it now.

I'm not saying I'm opposed to this strategy, but consider that Peyton plays against the NFC West and AFC East this year. He (and his team) looked awful in the SB, and the Pats added Revis and Browner specifically to stop the Broncos. and one of their out of division games is with the Bengals who have a good D, obviously better with Atkins back.

Peyton might be the highest point scorer again, but I don't see him with another 55 TD's or making it look as easy as last year. I think he is closer to the pack or I can even see someone like Brees or Rodgers neck and neck with him.

Last year I think he was 100 points higher than Brees in my league - that's significant. Enough to make me take him at 5 if he were available.

why even consider a qb in the first 8 rounds?

wait it out, get your position studs and then get a cutler/staff/romo/big ben/brady later on once your team is stacked

if qb are 6 pt tds then id take a qb but most leagues are 3-4 pt tds

is great value. Gronk went in the 3rd in my league which is way too rich for my blood. He's got some serious risk, but his upside is right with Graham as a 1st rounder. I would have been all over him in the 5th, possibly the 4th depending on how the draft shook out. You got lucky.

is a great combo to have if you don't draft anyone early. I really, really like Rivers this year, espectially where he's getting drafted.

In comment 11837107 kmed said:

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is great value. Gronk went in the 3rd in my league which is way too rich for my blood. He's got some serious risk, but his upside is right with Graham as a 1st rounder. I would have been all over him in the 5th, possibly the 4th depending on how the draft shook out. You got lucky.

Oh i definitely got lucky thats why i couldnt wait to make the Gronk pick...

Drafted 5th out of 10 in a non-PPR league. 1. Calvin Johnson 2. Jordy Nelson 3. Rob Gronkkoski 4. Tom Brady 5. Shane Vernon 6. Ray Rice 7. Steven Jackson 8. Lamar Miller 9. Reggie Wayne 10. Sammy Watkins 11. Colin Kaepernick 12. Martelius Bennett 13. Mason Crosby 14. Cincinnati’s D 15. Ahmad Bradshaw 16. Matt Prater

In comment 11837109 kmed said:

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is a great combo to have if you don't draft anyone early. I really, really like Rivers this year, espectially where he's getting drafted.

Yeah i got newton in the 8th and Rivers in the 10th...i took Rivers because of NEwtons injry history and i am sure there are going to be weeks i start Rivers instead of Newton depending on matchups which is fine with me

barring injuries. You have 2 really good starting caliber RB's. You have 2 really good starting caliber WR's. You have 2 QB's with a lot of upside. You have 2 really good starting caliber TE's. You have some bench players with upside and trade potential if need be. Nice job all around(benefited by some draft luck).

In comment 11837106 CruzShip52 said:

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why even consider a qb in the first 8 rounds? wait it out, get your position studs and then get a cutler/staff/romo/big ben/brady later on once your team is stacked if qb are 6 pt tds then id take a qb but most leagues are 3-4 pt tds

Because there's a pretty huge difference between starting Peyton every week and starting some of the other guys. I do like some of the other QB's.. but...

What I really want is to scoop Ball in the 2nd since I'm almost certainly passing on Lacy.

Wishful thinking but if I could get Calvin, Ball, Brown, Luck, Jennings with my first 5 picks, I'd be pretty psyched.

can you trade draft picks with anyone? Most people have Lacy as the clear cut #5 pick, if allowed, you should find some interest from the guys who draft 7-8-9. You can trade your 1, 2, 4 for their 1,2,4. You move up a few spots in the 2nd and 4th and you still get your guy in the first.

In comment 11837099 nygiants16 said:

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Lynch over Bush every day of the week in fantasy...Lynch wil get so many more touches than Bush plus red zone carries...even with a lesser workload... The question becomes how much better do you think Julio Jones is than Cordarelle patterson and is the difference enough to make up for the difference between Bush and Lynch

Admittedly, I am very high on Patterson. He looked great at the end of last season and I think Norv will transform him. I guess its just a matter of opinion, but I don't think that drop-off between the two WRs is so big.

It's possible but probably not too likely.

In comment 11837121 TEPLimey said:

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In comment 11837099 nygiants16 said: Quote: Lynch over Bush every day of the week in fantasy...Lynch wil get so many more touches than Bush plus red zone carries...even with a lesser workload... The question becomes how much better do you think Julio Jones is than Cordarelle patterson and is the difference enough to make up for the difference between Bush and Lynch Admittedly, I am very high on Patterson. He looked great at the end of last season and I think Norv will transform him. I guess its just a matter of opinion, but I don't think that drop-off between the two WRs is so big.

Right my point exactly its all the persons preference...

In comment 11837115 kmed said:

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barring injuries. You have 2 really good starting caliber RB's. You have 2 really good starting caliber WR's. You have 2 QB's with a lot of upside. You have 2 really good starting caliber TE's. You have some bench players with upside and trade potential if need be. Nice job all around(benefited by some draft luck).

I definitely got lucky on some picks i will admit that...better lucky than good right?

is quite large. Patterson is all potential at this point. He was a rookie who had a nice stretch at the end of the season and still has a weak QB situation. Julio Jones is a man child who's had a significant amount of success in the NFL and has a top QB throwing him the ball in a "air it out" offense.

In comment 11837015 CruzShip52 said:

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julius, gronk, bell, julio, mccoy

Because he plays with a bunch of idiots? Just a guess.

I'd recommend investigating it. People really, really like Lacy and see a large fall off after him at RB.

QB: Drew Brees
RB: Rashad Jennings, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson
WR: Cordarrelle Patterson, T.Y. Hilton, Brandin Cooks, Anquan Boldin, Stevie Johnson, Kenbrell Thompkins
TE: Martellus Bennett
DST: Seahwaks
K: Josh Brown

In comment 11837127 RC02XX said:

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In comment 11837015 CruzShip52 said: Quote: julius, gronk, bell, julio, mccoy Because he plays with a bunch of idiots? Just a guess.

Its not that i draft with idiots...its just alot of people went QB early because its 6 points per passing touchdown and players fell to me...

In comment 11837133 Bluenatic said:

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QB: Drew Brees RB: Rashad Jennings, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson WR: Cordarrelle Patterson, T.Y. Hilton, Brandin Cooks, Anquan Boldin, Stevie Johnson, Kenbrell Thompkins TE: Martellus Bennett DST: Seahwaks K: Josh Brown

Did you not have a second round pick?

In comment 11837133 Bluenatic said:

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QB: Drew Brees RB: Rashad Jennings, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson WR: Cordarrelle Patterson, T.Y. Hilton, Brandin Cooks, Anquan Boldin, Stevie Johnson, Kenbrell Thompkins TE: Martellus Bennett DST: Seahwaks K: Josh Brown

Thats not bad for a 14 team league...got to hope Bush can get touches out of the back field...Jennings should get 85% of the work load...

Wr got to hope Patterson lives up to the hype...Hilton is a deep threat, Cooks has been get rave reviews with the saints and Boldin is always good for a couple huge games..

In comment 11837128 kmed said:

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I'd recommend investigating it. People really, really like Lacy and see a large fall off after him at RB.

We def can, I just don't know if anyone would want to swap but I will certainly see if anyone's interested.

Maybe I should just freaking take Lacy myself.

In comment 11837133 Bluenatic said:

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QB: Drew Brees RB: Rashad Jennings, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson WR: Cordarrelle Patterson, T.Y. Hilton, Brandin Cooks, Anquan Boldin, Stevie Johnson, Kenbrell Thompkins TE: Martellus Bennett DST: Seahwaks K: Josh Brown

wow, hope it's not a money league.

then why not? I don't believe he's a top tier fantasy RB so I didn't want him. In my league we can't trade picks, just draft slots and I was offered to move to the 7 and 8 spots, but it didn't make sense for me. I ended up getting Brees in rd 2 anyway which is what I would have wanted.

ahead of Calvin, Thomas, Dez , Aj, Peyton

He's borderline for me.

I almost have him in his own tier after the top 4 guys or in at the top of a 2nd tier with Lynch.

I don't think he's going to be right with McCoy, Charles, AP and Forte.

In comment 11837126 kmed said:

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is quite large. Patterson is all potential at this point. He was a rookie who had a nice stretch at the end of the season and still has a weak QB situation. Julio Jones is a man child who's had a significant amount of success in the NFL and has a top QB throwing him the ball in a "air it out" offense.

Not to mention an All Pro WR on the other side of the field and an excellent receiving option in the slot as well. Jones won't be seeing much double coverage at all. I'll take him in a one-on-one matchup against most CB's.

but this seems like the Fantasy thread for today and I'm looking for some good insight on my draft.

My draft threw me completely off guard, because QBs were taken earlier than I expected.

Drafted 8th out of 10, expected to pick up Graham in the 1st and Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd. But the 3 top QBs were taken before I could nab him so I had to go D. Thomas in the 2nd. It kind of spiraled from there and I'm left with a team that I kind of like at times and then I'm not so crazy about other times I look at it.

QB- Kaepernick, Tannehill(I plan on dropping him and using this bench spot for waiver wire pickups during the season)

RB- Ellington, Sankey, Sproles, F. Jackson, Moreno

WR- D. Thomas, Cobb, Sammy Watkins, Welker, Terrance Williams

TE- Graham, Bennett

Defense- 49ers

K- Novac


Go ahead guys, rip me apart

In comment 11837162 djl8699 said:

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but this seems like the Fantasy thread for today and I'm looking for some good insight on my draft. My draft threw me completely off guard, because QBs were taken earlier than I expected. Drafted 8th out of 10, expected to pick up Graham in the 1st and Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd. But the 3 top QBs were taken before I could nab him so I had to go D. Thomas in the 2nd. It kind of spiraled from there and I'm left with a team that I kind of like at times and then I'm not so crazy about other times I look at it. QB- Kaepernick, Tannehill(I plan on dropping him and using this bench spot for waiver wire pickups during the season) RB- Ellington, Sankey, Sproles, F. Jackson, Moreno WR- D. Thomas, Cobb, Sammy Watkins, Welker, Terrance Williams TE- Graham, Bennett Defense- 49ers K- Novac Go ahead guys, rip me apart

I happen to think that both QBs will be serviceable for fantasy football purposes and your starting WRs are solid. You are going to have to pray that the report out of Miami that Moreno is the starter is correct because otherwise you are screwed on the RB front, at least until Sankey takes the job from Shonn Greene (and who knows if that will ever happen).

In comment 11837162 djl8699 said:

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but this seems like the Fantasy thread for today and I'm looking for some good insight on my draft. My draft threw me completely off guard, because QBs were taken earlier than I expected. Drafted 8th out of 10, expected to pick up Graham in the 1st and Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd. But the 3 top QBs were taken before I could nab him so I had to go D. Thomas in the 2nd. It kind of spiraled from there and I'm left with a team that I kind of like at times and then I'm not so crazy about other times I look at it. QB- Kaepernick, Tannehill(I plan on dropping him and using this bench spot for waiver wire pickups during the season) RB- Ellington, Sankey, Sproles, F. Jackson, Moreno WR- D. Thomas, Cobb, Sammy Watkins, Welker, Terrance Williams TE- Graham, Bennett Defense- 49ers K- Novac Go ahead guys, rip me apart

I love the ellington pick late 3d round hate Sankey as your 2nd RB...your Rbs are very weak...

Wrs are not terrible, Thomas is a great pick 2nd round he went 6th overall in my draft, Cobb is a good wr2 he gets the ball alot in space, Watkins is going to be a stud eventually i just dont know how quickly, Welker is an injury risk every time he steps on the field now, terrence Williams is a good pick and may have a good year with Bryant getting most of the attention...

Obviously Graham is a stud...

I just dont like Kaepernick, i know he was hurt last year but he didnt break out like i thought he would...h eis going to have to learn how to stand in the pocket and go through his progressions teams are not going to let him beat them with his legs...

12 team league. (.5ppr) (6pt per TD for all WR/RB/QB ect.)

QB- Stafford
QB- Flacco

RB- Reggie Bush
RB- Ryan Matthews
RB- C.J. Spiller
RB- Mark Ingram
RB- Khiry Robinson

WR- Calvin Johnson
WR- Maques Colston
WR- Hakeem Nicks
WR- Anquan Boldin
WR- Odell Beckum Jr.

TE- Rob Gronkowski
TE- Eric Ebron
TE- Coby Fleener

DEF- NY Giants
DEF- Green Bay

K- Josh Brown

I'll also have two open roster spots after week 1 where I'll grab another Kicker and somebody else. Maybe Jernigan or preseason MVP Corey Washington!

A lot of Detriot Lions. Which I don't mind too much, because I rather punt one game a year due to bye weeks and have as close to full power roster every other week.

In comment 11837162 djl8699 said:

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but this seems like the Fantasy thread for today and I'm looking for some good insight on my draft. My draft threw me completely off guard, because QBs were taken earlier than I expected. Drafted 8th out of 10, expected to pick up Graham in the 1st and Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd. But the 3 top QBs were taken before I could nab him so I had to go D. Thomas in the 2nd. It kind of spiraled from there and I'm left with a team that I kind of like at times and then I'm not so crazy about other times I look at it. QB- Kaepernick, Tannehill(I plan on dropping him and using this bench spot for waiver wire pickups during the season) RB- Ellington, Sankey, Sproles, F. Jackson, Moreno WR- D. Thomas, Cobb, Sammy Watkins, Welker, Terrance Williams TE- Graham, Bennett Defense- 49ers K- Novac Go ahead guys, rip me apart

This is the worst team in a 10-team league I might have ever seen

I expect him to have every chance to win the starting gig and to get the majority of the touches this season, but it might take a few weeks and he will have to perform. He's a good bench RB with upside, IMO.

In comment 11837176 Motley Blue said:

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12 team league. (.5ppr) (6pt per TD for all WR/RB/QB ect.) QB- Stafford QB- Flacco RB- Reggie Bush RB- Ryan Matthews RB- C.J. Spiller RB- Mark Ingram RB- Khiry Robinson WR- Calvin Johnson WR- Maques Colston WR- Hakeem Nicks WR- Anquan Boldin WR- Odell Beckum Jr. TE- Rob Gronkowski TE- Eric Ebron TE- Coby Fleener DEF- NY Giants DEF- Green Bay K- Josh Brown I'll also have two open roster spots after week 1 where I'll grab another Kicker and somebody else. Maybe Jernigan or preseason MVP Corey Washington! A lot of Detriot Lions. Which I don't mind too much, because I rather punt one game a year due to bye weeks and have as close to full power roster every other week.

Really don't like your WR's after Calvin at all. Bush as a RB1 is no good, either.. nor are your RB's in general. Plus I don't like having a starting QB, RB and WR all from the same team. You def mailed this one in, man. Not a fan of your team at all. No offense.

In comment 11837176 Motley Blue said:

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12 team league. (.5ppr) (6pt per TD for all WR/RB/QB ect.) QB- Stafford QB- Flacco RB- Reggie Bush RB- Ryan Matthews RB- C.J. Spiller RB- Mark Ingram RB- Khiry Robinson WR- Calvin Johnson WR- Maques Colston WR- Hakeem Nicks WR- Anquan Boldin WR- Odell Beckum Jr. TE- Rob Gronkowski TE- Eric Ebron TE- Coby Fleener DEF- NY Giants DEF- Green Bay K- Josh Brown I'll also have two open roster spots after week 1 where I'll grab another Kicker and somebody else. Maybe Jernigan or preseason MVP Corey Washington! A lot of Detriot Lions. Which I don't mind too much, because I rather punt one game a year due to bye weeks and have as close to full power roster every other week.

that is a good team for 12-team and a lot of roster spots - especially if you have two open spots.

20 roster spots per team, waiver wire will be slim pickings. better hope your depth is good enough you don't need to rely on a pick up - you shouldn't though.

I can't even figure out who the 2nd pick on that team is. If it's Stafford, it's a big reach. If it's Bush or Colston it's an even bigger one.

In comment 11837187 arcarsenal said:

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I can't even figure out who the 2nd pick on that team is. If it's Stafford, it's a big reach. If it's Bush or Colston it's an even bigger one.

Might even be gronkowski

but the draft is only 50% of the equation. At this point, people ranking the draft is all based on value. At this point next week, value will mean nothing when we actually see how guys play and what guys roles are. There will be a handful of pickups throughout the season that can make a fantasy team. It's about finding those guys and getting them.

The roster spots are overkill, was left over from when it was a 10 team league and should have been adjusted this year.

In comment 11837187 arcarsenal said:

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I can't even figure out who the 2nd pick on that team is. If it's Stafford, it's a big reach. If it's Bush or Colston it's an even bigger one.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

it's not that great either. my initial reaction was off.

there is a site (rate my team.com) or something and you plug iun your team, league settings, # of teams, etc. and it tells you your playoff likelihood.

It had my teams to a T the past couple years.

I panicked after RB's started to evaporate from the player pool.

Gronk in the 3rd

Stafford in the 5th

In comment 11837177 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 11837162 djl8699 said: Quote: but this seems like the Fantasy thread for today and I'm looking for some good insight on my draft. My draft threw me completely off guard, because QBs were taken earlier than I expected. Drafted 8th out of 10, expected to pick up Graham in the 1st and Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd. But the 3 top QBs were taken before I could nab him so I had to go D. Thomas in the 2nd. It kind of spiraled from there and I'm left with a team that I kind of like at times and then I'm not so crazy about other times I look at it. QB- Kaepernick, Tannehill(I plan on dropping him and using this bench spot for waiver wire pickups during the season) RB- Ellington, Sankey, Sproles, F. Jackson, Moreno WR- D. Thomas, Cobb, Sammy Watkins, Welker, Terrance Williams TE- Graham, Bennett Defense- 49ers K- Novac Go ahead guys, rip me apart This is the worst team in a 10-team league I might have ever seen

Thanks, I realized I may be reaching on a few picks. I took a few chances on guys that may break out but your analysis is appreciated.

In comment 11837200 djl8699 said:

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In comment 11837177 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 11837162 djl8699 said: Quote: but this seems like the Fantasy thread for today and I'm looking for some good insight on my draft. My draft threw me completely off guard, because QBs were taken earlier than I expected. Drafted 8th out of 10, expected to pick up Graham in the 1st and Brees or Rodgers in the 2nd. But the 3 top QBs were taken before I could nab him so I had to go D. Thomas in the 2nd. It kind of spiraled from there and I'm left with a team that I kind of like at times and then I'm not so crazy about other times I look at it. QB- Kaepernick, Tannehill(I plan on dropping him and using this bench spot for waiver wire pickups during the season) RB- Ellington, Sankey, Sproles, F. Jackson, Moreno WR- D. Thomas, Cobb, Sammy Watkins, Welker, Terrance Williams TE- Graham, Bennett Defense- 49ers K- Novac Go ahead guys, rip me apart This is the worst team in a 10-team league I might have ever seen Thanks, I realized I may be reaching on a few picks. I took a few chances on guys that may break out but your analysis is appreciated.

you said rip you apart. Your team needs a RB2 and possibly a QB. See if Devonta Freeeman is there, and maybe Kaepernick is used differently, but he went undreafted in my league.

I'd almost rather start Derek Carr.

I like the Terrence Williams pick, he is a sleeper this year.

It's rating it according to those guys rankings which means nothing. One guy had my team as terrible, one guy had it as one of the best. I guess it's fun if you need validation, but it means nothing.

I'm seeing reports of him having Top 5 QB potential. I don't think he will be quite that good but I can easily see him Top 10.

Yeah, I put no stock in the rate my team stuff because it's all based on projections and can't predict injuries. Nothing wrong with doing it to ballpark how well you drafted but in the end, it's probably not too accurate a barometer.

rankings. It would be one thing if they used a compilation of the rankings of multiple sites, but they use Joe Schmo's rankings to rate my team. Then they use Billy Joes rankings to rate my team. Billy and Joe both have completely different rankings which is why one thinks my team has a 90% at the playoffs and one has a 65% at the playoffs.

QB- Rivers, Manziel
RB- Forte, Morris, Stacy, Pierce
WR- Allen, Jeffery, Cooper, Edelman, Lee
TE- Cameron, Ebron
Def- NYG
K- Prater

Dropped Lee for McManus because of Prater's suspension.

Team into that site and it gave me a 75% chance of making the playoffs...if you saw my team you wouldn't put much faith in their assessment. LOL I have a not so good team.

QB - Rivers
RB - Lynch
RB - Ben Tate
WR - Vincent Jackson
WR - Emmanuel Sanders
TE - Jimmy Graham
FLEX - Bishop Sankey
D - Bucs
K - Blair Walsh

Bench
Terrence Williams
Devonta Freeman
Justin Hunter
Khiry Robinsom
Big Ben
Coby Fleener
Andrew Hawkins


Thoughts on the team, ALSO, I've been offered Russel Wilson and Woodhead for Bishop Sankey. Should I do that ?

Rodgers
Demaryius Thomas
Roddy White
Malcolm Floyd
Steve Smith
Justin Hunter
Jordan Mathews
Reggie Bush
Ryan Mathews
Bernard Pierce
Carlos Hyde
Jeremy Hill
Heath Miller
Travis Kelce

very

that's a pretty bad 10 team roster.

I like both Wilson and Woodhead and hate Sankey, but I think you shouldn't make that deal. You need Sankey to hit big, and Wilson/Woodhead aren't likely to hit big - they will just be consistent/decent options.

I never seem to like the Jimmy Graham teams.

why do you hate Sankey so much?

I agree. Whenever I did my mocks, I always had the most trouble with the drafts that I took Graham at 6. That being said, he's still a huge advantage at TE and you can fill other holes as the season goes on.

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Marvin Jones

I don't have a backup TE but I have Jimmy Graham both chargers are available should I drop someone to add one of them or wait and see?

Also which Defense/ST should i go with Pitt or Hou? Pitt looks like an easy first half of the year. I drafted Hou but dropped them for Pitt already bc they play the Browns after Gordon suspended. But I feel like Houston can be one of those matchup proof elite fantasy Ds with Clowney and Watt.

over Sankey then Sankey went 2 picks later. Right move? I then took Micheal Floyd over suspended Ray Rice and bust Trent Richardson. My next pick I took Toby Gerhart over Steven Jackson.

In comment 11837231 logan80 said:

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QB- Rivers, Manziel RB- Forte, Morris, Stacy, Pierce WR- Allen, Jeffery, Cooper, Edelman, Lee TE- Cameron, Ebron Def- NYG K- Prater Dropped Lee for McManus because of Prater's suspension.

You should just add a different kicker than McManus then once Prater comes back drop him

I have Luck and Denver - R. Wilson is my backup, and I can pick up either Redskins (against Hou), Steelers (against Cle), or Eagles (against Jax) in replacement.

Thanks!

those are worth 6pts in our league. I'm not in love with my team, but it's probably the best stable of rb's I've had in a few years.

In comment 11837335 logan80 said:

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those are worth 6pts in our league. I'm not in love with my team, but it's probably the best stable of rb's I've had in a few years.

How high on Pierce are you?

I think he should do pretty well the 2 weeks that Rice is suspended. I think I drafted him somewhere around the 11th round.

discussion about Ebron or any fantasy draft buzz about him. Anyone selecting him? Thoughts?

IMO, at best, he's going to be their 4th or 5th option and I'm not sure he's going to get a significant number of snaps to make him fantasy relevant this season. Apparently he's having some issues blocking so he might lose some snaps because of that.

Im not big on the Jimmy Graham teams either. Something about him being a TE and first round bug me.

think Julius Thomas is going to be an awesome value in leagues where he's there 3rd or 4th round vs. Graham in the first.

Peyton loves using his Tight End and that just adds to his value...with Welker and his concussion history i would not be surprised to see Thomas become the 3rd option possibly even the 2nd option in that offense...

Yeah. I think people almost sleep on Julius because they see Graham off the board and go "alright, I'll just fill TE later" and then that one guy nabs Thomas in like the late 3rd and everyone goes "oh, shit. Nice pick"

I thought for sure I would have a chance at him in the 3rd.

21. Gronk went 8th in the 3rd round or 28. There just wasnt an opportunity to grab those guys that made sense.

or Texans?

Thomas went 26th overall in the league I drafted in a week or two ago. The guy who had 5th pick (like I do) passed on him in Rd 3 (but took Rodgers) and the next guy took Thomas.

If I can take Thomas at 26 I am almost certainly going to do it.

Carlos Hyde @ Dallas

Andre Williams @ Detroit

or

Kelvin Benjamin @ Tampa Bay

In comment 11837595 BigBlue1092 said:

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Carlos Hyde @ Dallas Andre Williams @ Detroit or Kelvin Benjamin @ Tampa Bay

None of these guys. If you're starting any of those guys in a flex position week 1, you're either in a 30 team league or you're in for a long season.

Hyde and Williams should have 0 value.

Lmao...you hit the nail on the head.

but they will have value eventually

thought I came away with pretty good value for the most part. New 2 keeper league

QB -Luck, Eli
RB - Rice, Gore, F. Jackson, Woodhead
WR - Marshall, Hilton, Tate, Decker, Nicks, ODB, Lafell
TE - Graham, Clay
D - Panthers
K - Novak

My targets kept popping off the board right before my pick, especially rookies, but I think I'll be in pretty good shape once Rice gets back from suspension.

In comment 11837612 GMenLTS said:

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thought I came away with pretty good value for the most part. New 2 keeper league QB -Luck, Eli RB - Rice, Gore, F. Jackson, Woodhead WR - Marshall, Hilton, Tate, Decker, Nicks, ODB, Lafell TE - Graham, Clay D - Panthers K - Novak My targets kept popping off the board right before my pick, especially rookies, but I think I'll be in pretty good shape once Rice gets back from suspension.

No offense but i really don't like your draft. Your top 3 RBs could all easily be replaced this season (i think Gore hangs on the full year though). I have a feeling Bryce Brown replaces FJax this year and Pierce runs away with the Ravens job in the new zone blocking one cut Kubiak scheme. Best case scenario is an even split in Baltimore. Woodhead is your best pick here for PPR but even still they added Donald Brown to the mix. In a keeper league I wish you found some more youthful upside RBs. Ellington early and Freeman late would have been clutch.

Hilton has extra competition for targets. He is better in standard than PPR but he could develop even more. You doubled down with Nicks too who we all know has proven to be lazy. Plus Luck as QB a lot of eggs in one basket. ODB probably will have a wasted rookie year if history is accurate. LaFell is a flier but Pats have like 6 options ahead of him(Gronk Vereen Edelman Amendola Dobson Thompkins maybe even Tim Wright).

In comment 11837180 kmed said:

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I expect him to have every chance to win the starting gig and to get the majority of the touches this season, but it might take a few weeks and he will have to perform. He's a good bench RB with upside, IMO.

If Sankey isn't playing initially do you recommend trading Bernard Pierce for him if Pierce looks good starting by himself the first 2 weeks or hang onto Pierce?

In comment 11837612 GMenLTS said:

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thought I came away with pretty good value for the most part. New 2 keeper league QB -Luck, Eli RB - Rice, Gore, F. Jackson, Woodhead WR - Marshall, Hilton, Tate, Decker, Nicks, ODB, Lafell TE - Graham, Clay D - Panthers K - Novak My targets kept popping off the board right before my pick, especially rookies, but I think I'll be in pretty good shape once Rice gets back from suspension.

What happened to your 3rd/4th round picks?

In comment 11837660 YAJ2112 said:

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In comment 11837612 GMenLTS said: Quote: thought I came away with pretty good value for the most part. New 2 keeper league QB -Luck, Eli RB - Rice, Gore, F. Jackson, Woodhead WR - Marshall, Hilton, Tate, Decker, Nicks, ODB, Lafell TE - Graham, Clay D - Panthers K - Novak My targets kept popping off the board right before my pick, especially rookies, but I think I'll be in pretty good shape once Rice gets back from suspension. What happened to your 3rd/4th round picks?

Yeah I was a little confused too.. Graham and Marshall were obviously 1 and 2.. maybe Luck was the 3rd. Then Hilton, Rice and Gore?

about it when I compared it to the league wide results. Pierce/Rice will be interesting but I tend to favor the known starter and I obviously Kubiak will make holes happen. I hated my draft from a keeper standpoint but we'll see what I can garner in a trade at some point later.

YAJ, Luck/Rice, QB run in the third followed by not much left for me at RB, I was fortunate Gore made it back to me.

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It's only a 10 team league, there had to have been much better options at WR/RB at that point. You could have waited on QB.

league I pick 9th (10 teams, with Flex PPR)

I have Charles/Peterson as my keepers. I can't say I'm too enthused with my likely 1st round pick. Best available players

Bernard, Foster, Ellington, Dez, Julio, Cobb, A. Brown, Gronk, Nelson, Gerhart. So it seems likely I'll end up having to settle for a guy like Cobb at 9.

but Luck was my next highest rating with a big drop off behind him. Indy is going as far as his arm and legs.

If I made the wrong move by not taking VJax over Keenan Allen in my .5 PPR league.

I've just assumed VJax is going to underperform based on the wildcard QB play, but yet he racked up points with Mike Glennon and Josh Freeman at QB.

It's always tricky for 2nd year WRs/RBs. They either take that next jump because they are fully acclimated to the game and feel more comfortable, or they regress because the tape is out on them and defenses are fully accounting for them now.

seems unusually polished/Rivers seems to really trust him in the Red Zone, I wouldn't worry too much.

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If I made the wrong move by not taking VJax over Keenan Allen in my .5 PPR league. I've just assumed VJax is going to underperform based on the wildcard QB play, but yet he racked up points with Mike Glennon and Josh Freeman at QB. It's always tricky for 2nd year WRs/RBs. They either take that next jump because they are fully acclimated to the game and feel more comfortable, or they regress because the tape is out on them and defenses are fully accounting for them now.

I was a little torn between those 2... I took VJ. Keenan went 5 picks later.

Also.. Peyton scored 519 points in my main league last year and Calvin scored 261.

My mind is made up on Peyton at 5 tomorrow night if no one takes him before me. The point discrepancy is too huge. Even if he doesn't throw 55 TD's again.

How many points did Drew Brees score? Is Brees/Rodgers being there in the 2nd a realistic option for you?

AGF.. Brees had 435
Newton - 345
Luck - 338

Rodgers since he missed a bunch of games only had 203

But for comparison sake, these were the top 5 WR's

D. Thomas - 273
J. Gordon - 270
C. Johnson - 261
A. Brown - 259
A. Green - 257

The dropoff from Peyton was HUGE. Over 150 pts between he and the 3rd best QB.

Like I said, I don't expect another 55 TD year but even if he has Brees' 2013 (and he should be slightly better than that), he's still like 200 pts better than the best WR. I don't know how I can justify not taking him at 5. The WR dropoff is also not nearly as steep.

I think there's a chance I could get Brees at 16 but in this league, I'd be surprised. Rodgers could potentially be there.

I don't know. I think I am going to take Peyton at 5 and then try to get Ball in the 2nd and hope a Jordy/Antonio Brown are there in rd. 3.

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but they will have value eventually

Do you mean like next season?

all have ADPs in late 50s. There had to be better players there.

QBs get 4 per Td and rest is standard. Start 1 QB, 3 WR, 2 RB, 1 TE and 1 W/R/T (flex)

I thought I did well but Yahoo ranked me 10th (dead last).

QB - Foles/Cutler
WR - Nelson/Crabtree/Edelman
RB - Forte/Ellington/Vereen (likely start RB at flex)
TE - Ertz

Bench:

QB: Cutler
WRs: Watkins/Nicks/Williams/Beckham Jr.
RBs: K. Mereno

In comment 11837773 arcarsenal said:

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AGF.. Brees had 435 Newton - 345 Luck - 338 Rodgers since he missed a bunch of games only had 203 But for comparison sake, these were the top 5 WR's D. Thomas - 273 J. Gordon - 270 C. Johnson - 261 A. Brown - 259 A. Green - 257 The dropoff from Peyton was HUGE. Over 150 pts between he and the 3rd best QB. Like I said, I don't expect another 55 TD year but even if he has Brees' 2013 (and he should be slightly better than that), he's still like 200 pts better than the best WR. I don't know how I can justify not taking him at 5. The WR dropoff is also not nearly as steep. I think there's a chance I could get Brees at 16 but in this league, I'd be surprised. Rodgers could potentially be there. I don't know. I think I am going to take Peyton at 5 and then try to get Ball in the 2nd and hope a Jordy/Antonio Brown are there in rd. 3.

Yeah, in that scoring system it's tough to pass on Peyton. I really think Peyton/Brees/Rodgers will be a lot closer than it was last year, but he still seems like a great pick at 5.

Do you plan on taking an RB or WR in the 2nd?

In comment 11837648 Mr. Nickels said:

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In comment 11837180 kmed said: Quote: I expect him to have every chance to win the starting gig and to get the majority of the touches this season, but it might take a few weeks and he will have to perform. He's a good bench RB with upside, IMO. If Sankey isn't playing initially do you recommend trading Bernard Pierce for him if Pierce looks good starting by himself the first 2 weeks or hang onto Pierce?

If it was me and I had Pierce, it would depend if I had better starter options on my team. Long term, I like Sankey much more. I just don't see Pierce getting more than 50% of the carries come week 3. They aren't just going to phase Rice out of the offense, he's still going to get at least half of the touches.

Peyton had 504, Brees 421, Rivers 338, Newton 331.

WR's, Thomas had 295, Gordon 286.

I had the 6th pick and took a shot on one of the top 3 guys falling to me in the 2nd round. Calvin and Rodgers or Peyton and Jordy Nelson?

If you don't take Calvin(or a top WR), you are probably going to miss out on Thomas, Dez, AJ, Marshall as well. Once the top 6 RB's go, people take QB's and WR's.

That being said, what's your risk if you take Calvin and then miss out on one of the top 3 QB's? You'll have calvin and lynch or ball. I think you have to go calvin and hope to get lucky in rd 2 with ball, lynch, maybe julio or marshall as backup plans.

about Sankey isn't just depth chart, it's that he's a rookie.

I've read he's struggled with pass protection, and that can keep a rookie on the bench or let the D know it's a running play.

I haven't drafted him in either of my two leagues, and I feel he was over-drafted. I would have taken him a round or 2 later because he can run the ball.

but if the answer was known already it wouldn't be gambling.

Early on I can see him as the goal-line/short yardage back which may help him steal more touches, but I wouldn't bet on him, so I haven't.

I'm still happy with that selection. I am not happy that I took Vernon Davis in rd 6, especially when Witten was taken at the end of rd 8.

Sankey is a rookie and he's too talented not to get touches. If he can clean up his game, he has the potential of being the bellcow on his team. He has the upside.

in my draft league (non-keeper) he was the 3rd pick in the 6th round.

This guy is proposing me trades for antonio brown, he wants vereen and roddy white, i refuse to give up vereen for anyone right now

here is my team and i got peyton in round 4 because tds are only 3 points in my league and marshawn in round 3 i dont like either of them in rounds 1 or 2 but the value was there so i took them
PPR league
Peyton
Marshawn lynch
shane vereen
calvin johnson
roddy white
jordan reed
ryan matthews flex

bench is solid
ray rice
wes welker
hartline
bowe
hyde
ridley
randle

he wants to give me antonio brown for wes welker, roddy white, ryan matthews

worth it? id have two of the top 6 WRs in my starting lineup, id have rice/vereen/lynch/ridley combo at RB and flex, he would also be giving me some players back, no one good but maybe kelce, wallace, chris johnson

i mean i can toy with this dudes head all night and hopefully get the best of him, but you guys think its worth it to do a 3 for 1 for a stud like brown?

Emmanuel Sanders is looking better and better as the days go by.

tried to accept the welker/matthews/white for antonio and chris johnson trade, literally a second after i posted this and BAM he canceled it

just my luck

Andre Caldwell come on down!

or Jacon Tamme in deeper leagues if you need an extra TE...

Sanders looked pretty good with Welker a hard hit away from retirement, no doubt looks great now but not likely available if you already drafted...

Drafted him in the late 7th. Feel really good about his chances of producing right now.

is the guy who will benefit the most, not Caldwell

Is he ready to produce right away?

In comment 11837842 kmed said:

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Peyton had 504, Brees 421, Rivers 338, Newton 331. WR's, Thomas had 295, Gordon 286. I had the 6th pick and took a shot on one of the top 3 guys falling to me in the 2nd round. Calvin and Rodgers or Peyton and Jordy Nelson? If you don't take Calvin(or a top WR), you are probably going to miss out on Thomas, Dez, AJ, Marshall as well. Once the top 6 RB's go, people take QB's and WR's. That being said, what's your risk if you take Calvin and then miss out on one of the top 3 QB's? You'll have calvin and lynch or ball. I think you have to go calvin and hope to get lucky in rd 2 with ball, lynch, maybe julio or marshall as backup plans.

My plan if I take Peyton is to hope for Ball or Lynch to fall to me in rd. 2. If not maybe I go Murray or Bernard.. and then look for Jordy or Antonio Brown with my 3rd pick. I think that's potentially a really, really good way to start.

If I take Calvin, I'd still probably be looking for one of those RB's in rd 2 because if I went QB in rd 2, I'd be in a weird spot RB wise because I'm not crazy about most of the guys who go around rd. 3 and I have a feeling Rodgers will be gone by my 3rd pick.

The way I see it, there could be a potentially very large dropoff in pts between Peyton and whichever QB I'd wind up with if I drafted Calvin. But the difference between Calvin and Antonio Brown was basically nothing. It may not be that way again this year but I'm sure they won't be more than like 20-25 pts apart by the end of the year.

At least with shorter bench leagues...

I think they will still be one of the better defenses.

I have four RBs and two WRs for three slots (RB1, RB2, and Flex):

G.Bernard
D.Martin
B.Pierce
B.Tate

R.Cobb
D.Jackson

Not a PPR.

My starting WRs are C.Johnson and B.Marshall with T.Romo as QB (J.Cutler is the backup).

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Cobb over Tate or Pierce?

has a tough week 1 matchup against the legion of boom.

hate to play matchups like that week 1, but if Pierce plays (concussion?) he might be a better start

Not trying to sound like a dick, but it certainly helps people form a better opinion.

Doug Martin vs Carolina

Tate vs Pittsburgh

Pierce vs Bengals

Cobb vs Seahawks

Desean vs Houston


Panthers and Bengals both have really stout run defense, so Tate should have more consideration against that bad Steelers defense. Cobb is playing the best secondary in the league, but if you've invested a 3rd round pick (assuming) in the guy, I feel like you have to just throw him out there and hope for the best.

It's a crapshoot but gun to my head I go Gio, Tate, Martin/Cobb. Probably Cobb over Martin. I'd like for that Bucs OL to prove they can block a high five before I start anyone behind them.

14 team standard (picked 13). Your 2014 Laces Out Dan:

QB - Phillip Rivers (5)
RB - Arian Foster (1)
RB - Rashad Jennings (3)
WR - Brandon Marshall (2)
WR - Roddy White (4)
FX - MJD (6)
TE - Martellus Bennet (8)
Df - Saints (12)
K - Graham Gano (15)
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Nicks, WR (7)
Riley Cooper, WR (9)
Carlos Hyde, (10)
Flacco, QB (11)
Robert Turbin (13)
Travis Kelce (14)

Unfortunately by 13 the top QBs and RBs are gone a long with Jimmy Graham. So I roll the dice on Foster...

Sproles or Ingram?

Eifert or Black Unicorn?

Danny Amendola or Cecil Shorts?

Devonte Freeman or Andre Willams?

If you took Calvin with your first pick.. how would you rank these 5 players in order of who you'd want the most to who you'd want the least with your 2nd pick:

Ball
Marshall
Murray
Brees
Bernard

Brees
Gio
Marshall

Ball



Murray

I could flip flop on Gio and Brees. Gio and Mega is just such a nice combo to have. Marshall is an awesome consolation prize. Ball is a bit of an unknown but they seem to trust him as a workhorse back, not in love with him though.

Murray is talented as all hell, but I just can't trust him healthwise. He can absolutely have a fantastic season, and in that case I'll let some other team enjoy the fruits of his labor. I'm not taking the risk.

I am pretty much guaranteed to have another stud fall into my lap at 16 because I looked at it like this..

These 13 players are almost certain to go in the first 13 picks (not necessarily in this order)

McCoy, Charles, AP, Forte, Lacy, Calvin, D. Thomas, Graham, Peyton, Dez, AJ, Lynch, Julio

I can't imagine a scenario where they don't. And then the 2 picks before me, I am guessing 2 of the 5 players I mentioned will be taken.. which means I'll basically be choosing from the other 3.

I think if Brees is there I will take him. Marshall would mean going WR/WR but I don't know if I could pass up on him there. I would be happy with Ball or Bernard. Murray is really the one guy I'd be iffy on.

In the later rounds. I feel like for the first 6-7 rounds I can find a stud WR.

I really just hate the fact that Ball didn't do nearly enough on the field last year to warrant such a high pick. I try to stay away from these high upside breakout players that present no ADP value whatsoever. It's a personal strife I have more than anything else, which I'm sure has fucked me over in the past.

ppr league

QB: Brady / Cam Newton
RB: Vereen, J. Bell, CJ Spiller, McFadden, Stewart
WR: AJ Green, Wright, Maclin, DeAndre Hopkins, Streater
TE: Jimmy Graham / Ladarius Green
Def: PATS
PK: Shayne Graham

Had the 6th pick in 12 team league.

Any thoughts?

The reason I am so high on Ball is because everyone had basically thrown in the towel on Moreno and then last year, he was a top 5 fantasy RB because of that offense. Just so many quick screens, delayed handoffs and just a fuckload of touches. Ball is going to be that guy this year and I think he will put up big numbers.

Fish.. not bad, you fucking fuck. I would say I don't love your RB's but PPR will probably save you there with Vereen who actually isn't a terrible RB1 in PPR as long as he stays healthy. You got a top 5 WR, the #1 TE and I think Brady will be one of the best values at QB this year relative to where he's being drafted. For 12 teams that's pretty solid.

I have to choose eternal nicks, Andrew Hawkins, and Kenny Britt for 3rd receiver slot. Any suggestions?

Fucker

10 team, no PPR. Standard scoring with 4pts per QB TD. 2RB,2WR,1 RB/WR/TE flex.

7th draft slot:

QB: Cutler, Newton
RB: Ball, Stacy, Vereen, Pierce
WR: Calvin Johnson, K. Allen, E. Sanders, Hilton, M. Evans
TE: Rudolph, Clay
K: Vinatieri
Def: Rams

Wish I had slightly better option at RB2. Had to go Stacy at 27th due to 14 RBs going beforehand. Vereen at 54.

if it's a full PPR. You will be getting 5-7 points weekly on catches alone from Vereen.