4PM Games Discussion Thread

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Dallas' defense looks historically bad.

49er's....

Glazer believes that the relationship between Jim Harbaugh and the Niners front office is irretrievably broken and that there will be an 'ugly divorce' after the season even if SF makes a big playoff run.

Glazer also reported that some Niners players have run out of rope when dealing with Harbaugh

at least for this week because they fear that another hit to the ribs will lead to a long-term injury

I thought he was a cry-baby when the Giants got two big special teams plays against them and they lost! We went on to win "their" Super Bowl. Then he loses "his" Super Bowl.

If the relationship with the players is that bad it will affect the whole team.

I still think they beat Dallas by a TD though. Dallas Defense is just horrific.

What a crazy day so far!

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How bout them Cowboys!

David Wison

TD.

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Good. Turnover on an opener day opening drive. Sound familiar?

In comment 11844547 dpinzow said:

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Glazer believes that the relationship between Jim Harbaugh and the Niners front office is irretrievably broken and that there will be an 'ugly divorce' after the season even if SF makes a big playoff run. Glazer also reported that some Niners players have run out of rope when dealing with Harbaugh

this was predicted by many in here 3-4 years ago.

hes right, it sounds like a SF home game

In comment 11845058 SHO'NUFF said:

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In comment 11844547 dpinzow said: Quote: Glazer believes that the relationship between Jim Harbaugh and the Niners front office is irretrievably broken and that there will be an 'ugly divorce' after the season even if SF makes a big playoff run. Glazer also reported that some Niners players have run out of rope when dealing with Harbaugh this was predicted by many in here 3-4 years ago.

We should start a pool on the date when the first "The Giants should go after Jim Harbaugh" thread is started on BBI.

Stink

do today besides stats?

Defense is now ordinary

I bet he wasn't even on Reese's radar, as much as he values TEs...Eli on Tampa Bay would have a 80% completion percentage since he likes to throw high...VJax, Evans and ASJ are trees.

offensive line...including Zack Martin...dominating line of scrimmage. Sigh.

garbage. The stat sheet may say otherwise, but Houston controlled him and he was mostly ineffective. Let the Kirk Cousins chants begin!

has been very effective.

In comment 11845074 rebel yell said:

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garbage. The stat sheet may say otherwise, but Houston controlled him and he was mostly ineffective. Let the Kirk Cousins chants begin!

Great!

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So much Niner red

At Jerry's place.

2nd and 1 at the 2 for Dallas, with the Cowboy Offensive Line dominating the LOS? And it's not like Garrett is the OC.

OL for Dallas is going to be good for a long, long time.

In comment 11845081 JohnF said:

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2nd and 1 at the 2 for Dallas, with the Cowboy Offensive Line dominating the LOS? And it's not like Garrett is the OC.

Maybe Romo saw something to exploit in the 49ers D?

now a good time to start the movement? j/k

was credited with 4 tackles in his debut

are going to be high scoring affairs all year long.

Bust!

what a pass by Kapernick.

And the Cowboys defense is going to be terrible for a while, too.

that was insane. Looks like a 49'ers home game, too.

you see all the red in the crowd?

In comment 11845082 Eric from BBI said:

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OL for Dallas is going to be good for a long, long time.

NFL = Not For Long

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Kaeperneck as he stumbles

Kaepernick is looking very focused

and finds Vernon Davis for a terrific TD pass in front of all those Niner fans

There's a ton of 9ers fans in Dallas. Crowd looks almost 50/50

In comment 11845083 TheBigBlueOne said:

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In comment 11845081 JohnF said: Quote: 2nd and 1 at the 2 for Dallas, with the Cowboy Offensive Line dominating the LOS? And it's not like Garrett is the OC. Maybe Romo saw something to exploit in the 49ers D?

As a Demarco Murray FF owner last year, this was the norm. Garrett always tries to get Romo his.

Santa Clara.

one of on the run for a TD.

Man I hate the 49ers.

(but not as much as Dallas)

March down the field to the green zone take a stupid penalty or give up a sack settle for a FG, KO and the other team was in the end zone with a quick 7

are shitting horseshoes right now but Dallas is feeding them the shoes...

this is the response I guess

A shame

is that a shame?

horseshoes. luls

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knee down

or that we have to face him twice a year???

Were never going to go Martin/Richburg

Romo even made an Eli face after that one.

before Witten got his 2nd foot down? Then its possible its not a catch.

so we could be treated to Mike Carey looking terrified into the camera, stuttering, and contradicting himself.

Oh well, there's always next week.

how?

Did justin tuck do today ?

This is like a 49er home game

this dallas defense is going to be even worse than last year if possible

Gets hit in back he's finished. ...

December form.

that was so Romo

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is delicious.

Tony. Ha!

lol. Too bad they couldn't punch that INT into the endzone. I have the Niners D in FF.

Don't worry! There's the Tony Rome we all know and love!

I have him on my fantasy team, and the bastard doesn't wait for a 70 yd TD to develop and would like to throw into triple coverage for the INT.

took a nasty hit to the back..

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more pissed off that Jax couldn't finish the job

Not Rome*

the bloodbath begin! Dez Bryant got hammered too. Just wonderful!

the gift that keeps on giving.

But I was worried they were going to call a hit on a defenseless WR on the guy who hit Dez

400 meaningless yards

Lolcowboys

while longingly looking at his poster of Johnny Football at the minute.

Dallas deserves this. They remind me of the Giants last season..

Backs aren't supposed to bend like that.

is the weirdest home opening crowd I've ever seen. WTF.

career in the toilet commercial. You can't make a movie, do a character you did 20 years ago

He will end up with big stats but the Cowboys will get crushed, and everyone will say how good he is and how it isn't his fault. Dallas fans get this, the country does not.

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I wish I knew more Cowboys fans.

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4 first downs

Oh well

Is a stapler

Rated PG-13

Has the Browns on the phone yet?

given they've spent their 3 of their last 4 1st round picks on it.

They've neglected their defense terribly in building it up though.

In comment 11845162 Route 9 in LEH said:

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Is a stapler Rated PG-13

Exactly what I was thinking as I saw that hahaha

Active tomorrow?

I won't really care about Martin.

Hell, I barely care now. We got Richburg in the 2nd, and he looks promising. We weren't taking Martin and Richburg.

1-2 is probably better value than Martin in 1 and the best WR available when we picked in the second.

for 5-6 yards with ease every single time. Unfortunately for them, they're stuck with Romo picks and a lousy defense so they can't really rely on that to carry them.

to Aikman. What a homer defending the shitty Cowboys. Never changes.

happy with Odell and I think he will be a game changer, Martin was a nice piece for the Cowboys

With his patented 7 yd catch on 3rd and 10 for the Bucs.

balanced than the score would indicate"... really you ass bag? I HATE Joe and Troy!!!!!!

during this game

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love it!

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wow i am loving this Dallas game

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haha.

That never gets old...

wow he stinks.

By Romo

Romo didn't take that chance right away I knew he was going to throw an INT..

lol, idk why you don't run it with Murray there.

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look good today.
End Zone INT.

he would never survive it

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again. He's on a roll!

but Romo was fantastic last year. Buck has said it 5 times already.

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offering picks for Johnny Football right now.

Aikman trying to explain how the Cowboys aren't really losing 21-3.

ill say it 1,000 times. Cowboys get the ball inside the 10, and they completely forget Murray, even though he is dominating.

until the wheels start falling off in Dallas.

For Russell Wilson

and thinking "Shoulda drafted Manziel."

Romo

-Amani Toomer

but again, ..if the defense can't stop the run, why is Tony throwing the ball????

Not that I care, I love the way this is going!

In comment 11845196 micky said:

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You don't think Romo gets heat?

that was a poor decision and terrible throw. He usually saves those for the 4th Quarter! Can't write these guys off yet though. Dallas always finds a way!

"Tony was unlucky"

On that Gore run

he hasn't even run yet and they have 21 points!

of course Eli is in a bigger market..but it's not to Eli's level though

In comment 11845202 Route 9 in LEH said:

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For Russell Wilson

How can a Giant fan even draft him to begin with? I would never want to root for them even in the least.

Good to see ya!

Had 3 O coordinators in 3 years..looks same..
Great drives and Romo throws picks..
Weadon should be playing

Where I'll be surprised if I check on it two hours from now and the score differential isn't 40.

he is not a good QB

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He's usually not this big of a homer

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I did get him fairly late.

calls. This is how they'll keep the game close. Seen it before.

He knows his D sucks, so he will try to do to much all season... this will be fun to watch all season! Long live Jerry!!!!!

In comment 11845222 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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He's usually not this big of a homer

Yeah, the whole Dallas defense hasn't done as badly as people expected was bizarre. I'm not exactly sure how much worse they could be.

troy aikman is such a homer ..
Dallas is getting killed this game and Aikman says that Cowboys are dominating in both Offensive and Defensive front lines

But Romo will still get his fantasy stats, and everyone will say how great he is.

In comment 11845216 steve in ky said:

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In comment 11845202 Route 9 in LEH said: Quote: For Russell Wilson How can a Giant fan even draft him to begin with? I would never want to root for them even in the least.

I don't root for him but I drafted him for 3 reasons:
1. Good value where he was drafted.
2. His defense sucks, so he will have to throw a lot to keep his team in games.
3. He's good for fantasy if your league doesn't give minus pts for INTs. Always throws for a lot of yards and a fair share of TD passes.

Dallas has made three decent defensive plays

another hold on a 16 yard run.

is what worries me the most about our Oline, not their physical abilities. That sac looked awful familiar

they're not familiar with this "4th down" concept.

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"You see the 49ers have 21 points but if you add the 2 and the 1 together that's only 3 and that's also what the Cowboys have, so this is really more like a tie game. "

In comment 11845222 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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He's usually not this big of a homer

Are you kidding me???? He is always this much of a homer. I hate his game calling... and it gets ridiculous when he call the Cowboys.

But Romo and their defense is atrocious. Buck is smoking crack.

Oh wait I don't think it's how they planned it

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This is great.

for his personal best here. 3 INTs.

lol

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My man.

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and getting a blowjob all rolled into one! Haha!

Tony!

Romo "not seeing the field." Not seeing the field? He just threw that up for grabs, it has nothing to do with field vision!

just not seeing the field well today.

In comment 11845246 rebel yell said:

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for his personal best here. 3 INTs.

He actually threw 3 INT's in the first half against the Giants 2 years ago. 4 for the game.

that they didn't draft Manziel.

Tony Jabroni

feels good about themselves"... I'm done with this shit!!

this would have been a hat trick.

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only the Eagles had lost.

Fuckin' Jags.

In comment 11845256 illmatic said:

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that they didn't draft Manziel.

I totally agree. Too bad he passed on him.

Loving this!

for the fans of rival teams

But this has to be one of his very worst broadcasts. He sounds like he's doing a Cowboys' preseason radio broadcast.

was the one who gave Romo that huge contract. But there were reports that the Manziel card had to be yanked out of his hand. Romo has had two back surgeries and is 34. People shouldn't confuse charisma with talent.

But trail by 18 points.

Joe buck just actually said that.

Seriously, Troy?

But I sure hope that tomorrow we don't feel like Cowboys fans currently feel.

looks really good. Offense is potent.

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it up their ass. Aikman might like that connotation.

amazing.

In comment 11845273 rebel yell said:

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looks really good. Offense is potent.

Not so sure about that Dallas is that bad

ha hahahahaha

Hyde ran like one of those snowballs you see in cartoons.

in the second half. Could be really entertaining.

Blowout cause SF's defense is too good to fall apart and let Dallas come back.

I think Romo and the offense will come out looking better the second half but they are down too much to expect an Eagles or Dolphins like comeback.

Man, if only the Jags had managed to get it to even 20-0 before the half and then knocked a FG at least in the second half they may have won a 23-21 contest. The Eagles stepped up and may have taken the Jags lightly early.

In comment 11845254 Big Al said:

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just not seeing the field well today.

Also hasn't played all that much this preseason as he rehabbed from back surgery

lets hope Eli has over a 70% completion percentage in the first half like Romo has.

Dallas is starting to look like the Giants last year with all these turnovers.

Holy shit.

Is probably the best example of a "Holy crap, who is THAT guy?" runs that an 8 yard run up the middle could be.

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"If you take the turnovers out of it..." -Troy Aikman

Sorry Troy you cannot do that

Murray has been running great, Romo has been getting decent pressure, and they have turned it over what, five times?

I know you all want him to say the Cowboys just suck but that's not his job.

out to be Lombardi because they've played meaningful week 17s.

But what people forget is that they were still right in it.

Maybe Aikman and Jerry went into some kind of off season business venture.

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Aikman's actually factually correct santacruzom : 5:53 pm : link : reply Murray has been running great, Romo has been getting decent pressure, and they have turned it over what, five times? I know you all want him to say the Cowboys just suck but that's not his job.

If the Giants turned it over this much (which we did most of last year), it was widely accepted that we sucked.

and leeway for the Cowboys. IF we were down 28-3 and Eli had 3 picks, the pitchforks would be out.

You had NFL teams that passed maybe 8-10 times in a whole game. Had Dallas just passed 2-3 times this half, I think they would have been ahead...the '9ers couldn't stop the run at all.

Of course, if that happened, Dez Bryant's head would have exploded, and that would have been entertaining as well!

off of Brady's dreadful 55 throws for only a 4.5 YPA

Tar and Feathering him after the 2nd and chanting "we want Nassib" & "Fire McAdoo" after the 3rd and Aikman and Buck wouldn't be as forgiving

In comment 11845303 Headhunter said:

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Tar and Feathering him after the 2nd and chanting "we want Nassib" & "Fire McAdoo" after the 3rd and Aikman and Buck wouldn't be as forgiving

yup

will make him smarter.

Dallas coming back in this game.

Broadcast team going to get? Even Andrews getting into it.

Intercepted

Or did 49er DL take a step back?

the broadcast team is probably trying to talk people into not turning off the game.

In comment 11845216 steve in ky said:

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In comment 11845202 Route 9 in LEH said: Quote: For Russell Wilson How can a Giant fan even draft him to begin with? I would never want to root for them even in the least.

Who said anything about rooting for him? And please, I don't think we have to worry about the Cowboys winning anything relevant. Theyll go 6-10 and Except when they play the Giants and gain meaningless yards in garbage time then who cares?

and didn't know the score, Aikman gives you the impression the Cowboys have the Niner's where they want them

how bad Romo's decisions or throws are.

Dallas keeps shooting itself in the foot.

Dallas isn't this bad. Romo throwing based on good intentions and not good judgment.

one of the worst offensive performances i have seen

In comment 11845255 BigBlueinChicago said:

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In comment 11845246 rebel yell said: Quote: for his personal best here. 3 INTs. He actually threw 3 INT's in the first half against the Giants 2 years ago. 4 for the game.

He had 5 in that game

is having a terrible game, stupid mistakes a veteran QB should not be making.

throwing across your body on the run into the middle of the end zone should get you benched

defense is good at turning it over.

Wearing blue cleats is pissing me off

by Kapernik

so that should be a live ball and fumble

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douche

about calls he doesn't agree with?

fucking child

passionate

NOT! LOL!

In comment 11845337 GMenLTS said:

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about calls he doesn't agree with? fucking child

Watching Romo and the Cowboys implode?

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he got bent in half on the 2nd int, he's slow in the uptake

Lol

sui-sack

illegal contact.

What a f'n joke.

NOT LOL!

Refs should be fined for that shit.

kidding me re: that call?

McCown...I can't stop watching this
https://vine.co/v/Oz7ejavMOpY - ( New Window )

Are you kidding me? If you're going to call stuff like that, take away the automatic first down from the penalty. Ridiculous.

thru sheer officiating incompetence

then F football

Keep em coming, girl.

It can't be the line.

Martin's a bust

In comment 11845338 bc4life said:

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passionate

There's a difference between passionate and acting like a 4 year old whose parents wont buy him a toy at Wal-Mart.

Harbaugh is that 4 year old. Plus he wears fucking pleated pants.

when the team is losing bad.

to keep the game interesting for Dallas

cant get them going, the refs sure as hell will.

I'd take that childishness as long as the wins come with it.

And screw you - I have pants like that...

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#$%^#$%

this game is becoming unwatchable.

fucking ridiculous. Game being ruined by the garbage.

but that Romo 3rd INT is really bothering me. The long bomb to Dez Bryant. Why would a QB make that throw? I know Dez is a great player but, he had two defenders on him.

sport. RIP NFL that I loved

really kicking ass.

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Kidding, but Jesus, Romo is sucking up the place

Terrible calls.

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there was illegal contact on that play.

turrible.

tackle. Heh,

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Romo got REAL lucky on that

I'm goin' deep!

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for years....


-Eric from BBI

Look at that Romo Magic.

int

Romo looks like he's losing his mind

Romo just served you a sky tater!

Romo throws that get someone some fantasy points, but no Dallas wins.

stupid plays when behind by a lot

is good and going to get better.

I see those weekly during Giants games.

LOL!

Bryant just got better. It's a miracle.

who doesn't see the talent on this Dallas line is just fooling themselves.

~ Aikman~

on that TD

knee

they should have had to punt, but not for that horrendous illegal contact call and that volleyball Romo tossed up for grabs

argue with you Eric. Yes, the OL is good, but the rest of the team is average at best. That gives you an average team.

In comment 11845398 Eric from BBI said:

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who doesn't see the talent on this Dallas line is just fooling themselves.

Romo has been sacked 3 times already and hit many more times. Playing against a defense missing 2 of their best defenders. If Bowman was playing, the run game wouldnt be nearly as effective.

because the game is out of hand and they are passing on every down.

Before this game got out of hand early, the Cowboys were mauling the 49ers up front.

No Aldon Smith and Navarro Bowman has a little something to do with it. And Romo has been pressured all game. Not saying they arent good, but lets calm down about their greatness.

They did a god job but mauling?

In comment 11845398 Eric from BBI said:

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who doesn't see the talent on this Dallas line is just fooling themselves.

I see it, as well. They've really done well, run blocking. Romo is playing like shit. But it's not the O line's fault.

Has been terrible. Everyone is "the best, almost the best ..." He's becoming as bad as Gruden.

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better get a score soon or else they might be facing a 28-17 with 10 minutes and some Dallas momentum.

a hold? No way!

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Has been terrible. Everyone is "the best, almost the best ..." He's becoming as bad as Gruden.

When he made some claim about one of the most unselfish players in the league, I thought "how the hell would you measure that." Just empty verbiage to fill air time.

and that's with him being on the run a lot of the time. Their OL has done a decent job of run blocking, but not much else.

That doesn't absolve Romo or the playcalling though. Not sure why they abandoned the run so quickly.

Have also made what should be an entertaining game almost unwatchable.

It was 7-0. The Cowboys got the ball and dominated the 49er front seven...then on 2nd and short and 3rd and short, for some reason they started to throw the football again and settled for a field goal. Then Romo started throwing picks.

giving Romo all the time in the world. They did some good run blocking but some of that was Murray

Frustrating this year watching the course of games being unduly influenced by meaningless incidental contact. Why is the NFL so intent on compromising the quality of play

I get the safety issue, but why with the offense already having a great advantage are they so intent on this new emphasis.

thats PI?

WTF. These officials havee been absolutely fucking pathetic.

Disgusting.

In comment 11845418 Eric from BBI said:

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It was 7-0. The Cowboys got the ball and dominated the 49er front seven...then on 2nd and short and 3rd and short, for some reason they started to throw the football again and settled for a field goal. Then Romo started throwing picks.

We get it they have a good Oline, as they should as they've invested an absurd amount of high draft picks in it.

They've also got a putrid defense, which they've almost completely ignored because of the above.

Oh look another completely bogus call on SF.

but I don't think they are an outstanding line that will dominate a game and keep Romo upright

That was a nothing and should have been a 1st down for SF

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the fix is in for Jerry.

Exactly. "Frank Gore is among the most unselfish players in the NFL."

Huh?

Has he had any insights of note all game?

moly with these calls..

I don't care how much talent they have upfront, they aren't winning many games when they cannot stop anyone. Guys are running around WIDE open all over the field

so screwed by these flags. Disgusting.

On that???.

Matt, Fitzpatrick, Tannehill, Rex, just not Rob.

Just got hosed

0 pressure

forcing all these penalties.

really?

Just won't shut up about that bad that favored the Cowboys. Get objective already.

All those blow jobs Jerry paid for are paying off today.

Nah, we will jsut say they called timeout.

incompletion not on them.

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taken out of this game!

is miserable. Just miserable.

but not much has changed. Romo still sucks and dallas brought their own refs. Have our resident BBI Romo apologists been around today?

Is a monster.

In comment 11845365 bc4life said:

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I'd take that childishness as long as the wins come with it. And screw you - I have pants like that...

Hey, if he doesn't re-sign with San Fran after this season, and (football gods forbid) Tom and the Giants have toilet flush of a season again, I'd change my tune about him. I mean, I learned to love Johnny Damon.

As for your pleated pants...You know you can have the dry cleaners press those out, right?

All things Giants suck. Everything Cowboys and Eagles is outfreakingstanding. He's becoming a caricature of himself

nice kick dipshit

Asshole

They will get the ball back with a chance to win with just under 2 minutes left against the Panthers. It's 17-14 Carolina

game is getting very interesting

Carolina's 17-0 4th Q lead has evaporated, it's now 17-14, Bucs ball with a minute and a half to go and a timeout left.

WR fumbled away the game. Typical Tampa.

run out the clock dinkng and dunking

at how good Romo looks right now. Guy is a gamer. No quit in Tony.

In comment 11845476 yankees78 said:

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Quote: @AdamSchefter: Texans fear No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney has a meniscus tear that could require arthroscopic surgery, per source.

Jesus. Now that's just incredibly bad luck for the Texans

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throw it to Dez so we can hear how great both Romo/Bryant are.

The Romo apologists will be touting his inflated stats. Only stat the counts is THREE interceptions.

of throws

from a comeback

PICK PLAY!!!

Oh wait, its ok if its Dallas. Thank god they made sure Romo got his TD. HE really deserved it.

and a TD. Great effort Tony.

Not a big enough win for me. dallas may have a potentially good offensive line but they are gonna need it. Romo is already getting slammed and the back up is Weeden. These guys are worse than the Giants or the Giants are really gonna suck.

In comment 11845476 yankees78 said:

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Quote: @AdamSchefter: Texans fear No. 1 overall pick Jadeveon Clowney has a meniscus tear that could require arthroscopic surgery, per source.

Wow

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Cowboys lose

and say Dallas was right there with the 49'ers..instead of looking at the context

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about their probiotic use today? I'm really interested to know how the Cowboy's O-line BM's are going.

of the game and stats being misleading. Dallas got abused. They look weak.

Cowboys were up against some very good competition today and had they not turned the ball over like they did, I think they would have been right there at the end. They can definitely run the ball and they may just have to adjust their Offense to accomodate a shorter passing game. I'm still not sure what we have in Dallas. I wouldn't write them off just yet, however a few more weeks of this kind of sloppy play and I think we could start that conversation.

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and say Dallas was right there with the 49'ers..instead of looking at the context

Eh, I wouldn't worry about that happening.

Their OL has ability. We have seen Murray do this before. However, SF never rushed more than 4 the whole game. They dropped everyone back to protect their CB. When push came to shove, SF could get pressure.

the OL/running backs, I wasn't that impressed with the 49ers today either.

Defense looks much worse. Still seem too reliant on the TE in the passing game. But that rookie RB they have is the real deal.

49ers will get some guys back late in the season.