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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2014 2:21 pm
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Lets get it started  
dep026 : 9/8/2014 2:25 pm : link
FIRE COUGHLIN!!!!
KILLDRIVE!
Eli sucks, wheres Nassib?
Should have drafted Zach Martin
Fucking draw play.
1956 is First Season I Remember  
clatterbuck : 9/8/2014 2:45 pm : link
and I still get butterflies. I've got a grandson to help nurture into the fold and no matter what happends -- win, lose, joy, agony -- it's ulitmately all about family. GO GIANTS!
I doubt anybody really has a clue...  
silverfox : 9/8/2014 3:09 pm : link
...as to what is likely to happen tonight, however some things will always hold true: A good running game, solid defense, and eliminating turnovers...gives any team the best chance to win. If we don't beat ourselves, and keep the game close going into the 4th...we have a legit shot.

I honestly can't remember the last time I felt as down about  
Riggies : 9/8/2014 3:10 pm : link
the Giants as I do going into this season.

As unlikely as it probably is, hopefully they somehow prove me wrong -- starting tonight.
I have mixed thoughts..  
TheEvilLurker : 9/8/2014 3:13 pm : link
I'm really completely unsure what I will see tonight, probably more than any other year I can remember.
Both teams are like Forrest Gump's proverbial box of chocolates.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/8/2014 3:14 pm : link
Nobody has any idea what we're going to get from the Giants or the Lions. So getcha popcorn ready and pull up a chair.
Agreed  
chopperhatch : 9/8/2014 3:18 pm : link
I cant get a read on this team. Just havent seen enough. I do think the defense will be tough. Im really just wishing like hell JPP plays like the beast he was a couple years ago.
If we can establish the run  
LI NHB : 9/8/2014 3:19 pm : link
and get some early first downs, I think the offense and McAdoo will let out a collective sigh of relief and really settle in. Cruz and Manning both echoed the sentiment that they were holding back most of their offensive package throughout preseason and I hope that is truthful.

Thought Megatron and Bush present daunting tasks on defense, I think we have never been more better suited from a secondary standpoint to keep them at bay.

21-17, Giants kick the season off with a dub.

Go Blue!
It's a slow day here at the office  
aimrocky : 9/8/2014 3:19 pm : link
so I've spent a good portion refreshing BBI. With under two hours till I can motor out of here, I'm starting to get the nervous shakes.
niners offense  
GeneInCal : 9/8/2014 3:19 pm : link
looked horrible in the preseason as well. There is hope, especially if we weren't really showing anything in the preseason.
I just keep remembering the first 10 minutes.....  
George from PA : 9/8/2014 3:19 pm : link
from last years first game.....It can't possibly be worse?

Can it?

The Lions are one of those teams that actually disappoint their fans more than any other team....so although slight...I have hope.

Win/Lose....play competitive football
I'm not expecting much this year. One positive for tonight's  
Victor in CT : 9/8/2014 3:20 pm : link
game is that Detroit has a penchant for giving away games.

They have too many new faces, new offense and questionable pass rush to be considered anything but mediocre. A successful season this year to me is that they show steady improvement offensively and that the OL becomes at least a functioning unit. Defensively, if JPP proves me wrong and becomes a force again and Moore is really a player then they can be a dominant defense. The back 7 looks good, but without a pass rush they will eventually cave.
I think people continue to run under the assumption  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2014 3:21 pm : link
that the offensive line is as bad as it was last season.

I really, really don't feel that way. Time may have clouded the full scope of how fucking awful that unit was last season.
Pick em  
natefit : 9/8/2014 3:22 pm : link
They have more star players and are at home, but theyre still the Lions.
RE: I think people continue to run under the assumption  
LI NHB : 9/8/2014 3:23 pm : link
In comment 11847265 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I really, really don't feel that way. Time may have clouded the full scope of how fucking awful that unit was last season.


Agree here. We ran the ball well this preseason whereas last year we couldn't get the ball out of the backfield. If Eli can get the ball out quickly, I think we have a real shot.
I'll never better better about an opening day  
Canton : 9/8/2014 3:29 pm : link
than I did when we opened against the Redskins, following our Super Bowl season, in 2007.

Lastly, I was never more excited,confident,and determined as a fan, that we would go on and repeat that year as well. Until Plaxico shot himself in the leg.

Coming into this season, I'm at the complete opposite end, of the proverbial spectrum, with my emotions. I totally feel like we're going to get embarrassed tonight. My hope is to be proven wrong.

But, nevertheless....


I'M STILL EXCITED!
I've never seen so much negativity around this team or less  
BLUATHRT : 9/8/2014 3:29 pm : link
excitement for a season to start. I am pumped...this team is going to suprise all of the doubters.
I'll never feel better*  
Canton : 9/8/2014 3:29 pm : link
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RE: Lets get it started  
Big Blue '56 : 9/8/2014 3:31 pm : link
In comment 11847048 dep026 said:
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FIRE COUGHLIN!!!!
KILLDRIVE!
Eli sucks, wheres Nassib?
Should have drafted Zach Martin
Fucking draw play.


That made me smile
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arcarsenal : 9/8/2014 3:46 pm : link
This is the least optimistic I've been about NYG in a while, but.. it's a new season. There's no way I'm not going to be excited. And it's also not exactly a team like the Raiders or someone who just isn't going anywhere this year and everyone already knows it.

We'll need a lot of good fortune to be a playoff team but at least it's not totally out of the realm of possibilities. Let's just get a win early on and avoid anything resembling 0-6 again. What a fucking nightmare.
I know this is saying nothing new but if they can run  
Blue21 : 9/8/2014 3:47 pm : link
the football they have a chance. Eat the clock and keep the Lions Offense off the field. Jennings and Williams need to help Eli a ton tonight.
amazing to me how people  
Andy in Boston : 9/8/2014 3:47 pm : link
put so much into the preseason....and judge week 1 outcomes on that.

49ers looks terrible in the preseason and go on the road and smokes Dallas

Bill 1st team offense doesn't score a single point in the preseason...and they go on the road and get a solid win at Chicago.

People were raving about Indy they way they walked through the Giants in the 1st 3 quarters...they lay an egg at Denver...and Luck really doesn't play that well.

It goes on and on. The preseason means nothing!!! except injuries and getting practice time!!!
Please Please Please run the ball  
DavidinBMNY : 9/8/2014 3:53 pm : link
The question is can we run it effectively?

Man that will make a lot of the other problems on Offense look much more minor in scale as it will show the OL is effective, and there can be some balance.

I'll take 2nd and 8 vs. 2nd and 12. And 3rd and 4 instead of 3rd and 9.
this  
Bradshaw #44 : 9/8/2014 4:01 pm : link
will be the closest I get to game threads all year.
could be a slow start  
area junc : 9/8/2014 4:22 pm : link
a la spags going 0-2 before his scheme clicked
Very excited!  
Randy in CT : 9/8/2014 4:22 pm : link
Neutralize the big bastids in the middle of that defense and we'll be fine.
let's get one thing straight:  
area junc : 9/8/2014 4:25 pm : link
the GIANTS DEFENSE is the best unit on the field tonight.

we may not have a great pass rush but we FORCE TURNOVERS and clamp down in the red zone. looking for the D to step up, get the better of stafford and win the game for us
I'll let Jimmy Dugan express my feelings  
Kulish29 : 9/8/2014 4:26 pm : link
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if we can somehow block  
SamdaGiantsFan : 9/8/2014 4:30 pm : link
Suh, Fairly, and Ansah, Eli can find holes in this secondary.
RE: Lets get it started  
AcidTest : 9/8/2014 4:32 pm : link
In comment 11847048 dep026 said:
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FIRE COUGHLIN!!!!
KILLDRIVE!
Eli sucks, wheres Nassib?
Should have drafted Zach Martin
Fucking draw play.


Very nice. I'll just say I hope we don't suck, because there are strong indications in the preseason that we might.

GO GIANTS!
24-20 giants  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2014 4:33 pm : link
eli to cruz for the game winner in late 4th quarter
For the first time.....  
damdevs : 9/8/2014 4:34 pm : link
in a long long time I don't have a F'n clue what to expect from this team.

Gotta stay away from Megatron penalties  
JINTin Adirondacks : 9/8/2014 4:38 pm : link
So may flags thrown yesterday can't give Lion's field position from trying to cover the big guy,
I'm excited and a little optimistic  
gmen4ever : 9/8/2014 4:44 pm : link
Just hope we play solid football. Not many mistakes, no injuries. Is that asking too much? Go Giants
we are in the whites right ?  
shabu : 9/8/2014 4:56 pm : link
we are in white yes ?
Do we know who's starting at RG  
aimrocky : 9/8/2014 4:56 pm : link
Mosely or Jerry?
healthy scratches will be who tonight?  
rdt288 : 9/8/2014 4:57 pm : link
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The future is unknowable  
BurlyMan : 9/8/2014 5:01 pm : link
Go Giants!
When Is Kickoff?  
Trainmaster : 9/8/2014 5:15 pm : link
(not when ESPN's coverage starts)

.  
Jints in Carolina : 9/8/2014 5:21 pm : link
"Ray how do you feel about Ray Rice since you were a mentor to him" - Suzy Kolber just now to Ray Lewis.

Well that explains a lot.
RE: When Is Kickoff?  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2014 5:22 pm : link
In comment 11847551 Trainmaster said:
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(not when ESPN's coverage starts)


710
Who are  
Mark from Jersey : 9/8/2014 5:25 pm : link
The Inactives?
inactives +  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2014 5:28 pm : link
pat hanlon þ@giantspathanlon · 55s
Jon Beason will start at MLB, Jameel McClain at SLB, and John Jerry at RG ... #Giants lineup


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beckham  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2014 5:29 pm : link
Kuhn ,brewer out with injuries


Snyder,wynn,bromley, and Brown are healthy inactives
My take  
Jay in Toronto : 9/8/2014 5:30 pm : link
if the OLine is serviceable and Eli and the receivers get on the same page (I don't think it's all on Eli) I think we willl be respectable (>.500).

If that + JPP is all-pro form, barring significant injuries, we'll be in the playoffs.

Can't wait for this!  
jpkmets : 9/8/2014 5:38 pm : link
Hope the Gmen kick the crap out of the Lions!
so Kennard  
dep026 : 9/8/2014 5:39 pm : link
Awesome summer goes for not with McClain starting or does William go to the bench in 3 LB set?
I feel blessed  
jpkmets : 9/8/2014 5:40 pm : link
that we don't get Berman/Dilfer calling our game.

BLESSED
We are gonna run the ball and play good defense.  
ZGiants98 : 9/8/2014 5:42 pm : link
Eli will do just enough in the passing game. Im thinking Donnell TD. If we don't turn it over we will win.
RE: so Kennard  
Mason : 9/8/2014 5:54 pm : link
In comment 11847606 dep026 said:
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Awesome summer goes for not with McClain starting or does William go to the bench in 3 LB set?


???
Williams is the starting WLB, why would you think he is going to the bench?
Enjoy everyone  
SethFromAstoria : 9/8/2014 5:57 pm : link
Lets Go G Men. Don't listen to the worry and panic in the media. New season. Lets do it.

Have fun. Good luck to us all.
very confident  
Fish : 9/8/2014 6:00 pm : link
In our secondary which may be best in league but sssshhhhhh No one knows yet.
Pumped for The Game and The Season  
Jim in Tampa : 9/8/2014 6:04 pm : link
I expect the Giants to pound the ball with their running attack, win the turnover battle and make enough plays to win.

20-17.
In all honesty  
Nick in LA : 9/8/2014 6:17 pm : link
I haven't been excited at all. I figured maybe its because I was getting older or whatever. But then all of the sudden 3 hours ago I saw a promo for the game and now I am pumped, butterflies and everything. Let's get em Giants!
RE: Pumped for The Game and The Season  
SGMen : 9/8/2014 6:18 pm : link
In comment 11847653 Jim in Tampa said:
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I expect the Giants to pound the ball with their running attack, win the turnover battle and make enough plays to win.

20-17.
I too expect the Giants to run well, take what the defense gives them in the passing game, NOT turn it over, and do enough in all other areas to eek out a close win.
Sidenote: Colts DE Robert Mathis out for the year with achilles tear. We won't be facing this stud pass rusher after-tal.
RE: so Kennard  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/8/2014 6:19 pm : link
In comment 11847606 dep026 said:
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Awesome summer goes for not with McClain starting or does William go to the bench in 3 LB set?


Kennard will get his time eventually.

And williams is not going to the bench. He's a good coverage LB. The best they have by far.
Lets go Giants  
nicky43 : 9/8/2014 6:20 pm : link
Best of luck to the team tonight. May they get the win and stay injury free.

I've been bitchin about the o-line and Reece all off season but now it's time for me to just be a Giants fan and support the team all the way. Go TC and the New York Giants!
Glad they are going with Jerry over Mosely  
BlueHurricane : 9/8/2014 6:21 pm : link
Hopefully he can roadgrade the way he did in his last preseason action
I feel we win this game  
Maximus, Esq. : 9/8/2014 6:26 pm : link
I have a good feeling about tonight. Not much substance to this post - but just a guy feeling we win and look good doing it.
How McClain starts is beyond me...  
nygiants1114 : 9/8/2014 6:27 pm : link
The DT thing is puzzling, last year had great success with 4 DT, and they only activated 5 LB last year, so essentially taking the extra ST backup LB over a guy who will probably factor into a rotation at DT and has pass rushing skill, yep.

Swing T roster hole exposed here as well, Brown is not nfl caliber so inactive. Mosley/Jerry would proabably play RT if Pugh went down and Pugh would move over to LT and the other two again play RT if Beatty went down. Dangerous situation.

Across seasons these choices by coaching staff add up for Giants teams over the years that generally have low margin for error.

*gut feeling  
Maximus, Esq. : 9/8/2014 6:27 pm : link
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Mind you with saying we need the ST help  
nygiants1114 : 9/8/2014 6:29 pm : link
Seattle played Sherman on most of their ST with the big investment they made in him as well. You can play your starters there, i mean its pretty much only PR coverage/return with all the touchbacks (especially if we took McManus).
ELIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 9/8/2014 6:32 pm : link
Giants football season is upon us. Just win baby!
except  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/8/2014 6:33 pm : link
Jerry was never a road grader in Miami so it would be strange if he became one here. He was a terrible run blocker for the Dolphins.

Should surprise no one that McClain is starting.
Lets fucking go boys  
GMenLTS : 9/8/2014 6:36 pm : link
How bout another season where we shock the world? (including shocking ourselves)
The only reason OT Brown is inactive is that he is likely  
SGMen : 9/8/2014 6:38 pm : link
not 100% and given his already limited talent we sat him.

We have to pray we don't sustain in-game injuries or it could be a long long night for us!
Kennard may have something and hopefully  
Big Blue '56 : 9/8/2014 6:41 pm : link
he's a long termer here, but why wouldn't you prefer McClain with all his experience and vet savvy in there? Remember, they're game-planning now. Rather have JM in there at this point
More optimistic than many  
micky : 9/8/2014 6:42 pm : link
No TO's turnover, create them. Ready to get this thing started..hopefully shut the naysayers for awhile
RE: Kennard may have something and hopefully  
nygiants1114 : 9/8/2014 6:42 pm : link
In comment 11847710 Big Blue '56 said:
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he's a long termer here, but why wouldn't you prefer McClain with all his experience and vet savvy in there? Remember, they're game-planning now. Rather have JM in there at this point


he cant play anymore, Kennard is a much better player...
RE: except  
BlueHurricane : 9/8/2014 6:44 pm : link
In comment 11847700 Eric from BBI said:
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Jerry was never a road grader in Miami so it would be strange if he became one here. He was a terrible run blocker for the Dolphins.

Should surprise no one that McClain is starting.



Do you deny that he looked quite good run blocking vs the Pats? I know it was against backups but he was destroying guys.
RE: The only reason OT Brown is inactive is that he is likely  
nygiants1114 : 9/8/2014 6:45 pm : link
In comment 11847707 SGMen said:
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not 100% and given his already limited talent we sat him.

We have to pray we don't sustain in-game injuries or it could be a long long night for us!


Brown was probable and practiced all 3 days, they decided to not activate him and decided they were better off with going with Mosley/Jerry (not much T expierence, Mosley zero) at RT and Pugh at LT in case of injuries than actually give Brown, a guy who has nfl game expierence at LT, playing time.
Kennard will play a lot regardless of McClain starting  
SGMen : 9/8/2014 6:48 pm : link
There is no doubt in my mind that Kennard will be starting post-bye for sure if not earlier. They will work him in slowly. He can rush the passer and you MUST have those guys on the field on any clear passing situations. McClain is no pass rusher.
Yeah Buddy...  
KingBlue : 9/8/2014 6:50 pm : link
Go Big Blue!
I guess it is over  
Fred in Atlanta : 9/8/2014 6:55 pm : link
All espn picks lions
experts?  
blapre74 : 9/8/2014 6:57 pm : link
Chris Carter can't spell Lions. so, why watch, if it's not a contest? screw those idiots.
hope fewell  
SBlue46 : 9/8/2014 6:57 pm : link
Has good game plan...we beat them last year
w bad dbs...I think we will be surprised at
Macs playbook... Washington may become
A star tonight....run game will be vital
RE: RE: Kennard may have something and hopefully  
Big Blue '56 : 9/8/2014 6:58 pm : link
In comment 11847716 nygiants1114 said:
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In comment 11847710 Big Blue '56 said:


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he's a long termer here, but why wouldn't you prefer McClain with all his experience and vet savvy in there? Remember, they're game-planning now. Rather have JM in there at this point



he cant play anymore, Kennard is a much better player...


You know this how?
RE: except  
CGiants07 : 9/8/2014 7:01 pm : link
In comment 11847700 Eric from BBI said:
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Jerry was never a road grader in Miami so it would be strange if he became one here. He was a terrible run blocker for the Dolphins.

Should surprise no one that McClain is starting.


mclain should only be a 2 down player most of the time
let's go!!  
JoshB : 9/8/2014 7:11 pm : link
http://youtu.be/sQc9ESv1cvA
REVIEW IT  
Rflairr : 9/8/2014 8:03 pm : link
I thought he had that
GO FOR IT  
Rflairr : 9/8/2014 8:04 pm : link
.
He was out  
Rflairr : 9/8/2014 8:04 pm : link
but what an effort
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