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Getting Blown Out With Disturbing Regularity

Danny Kanell : 9/9/2014 10:29 am
In their last 20 games:

2012:

Bengals 31 - Giants 13
Falcons 34 - Giants 0
Ravens 33 - Giants 14

2013:

Broncos 41 - Giants 23
Panthers 38 - Giants 0
Chiefs 31 - Giants 7
Eagles 36 - Giants 21
Chargers 37 - Giants 14
Seahawks 23 - Giants 0

2014:

Lions 35 - Giants 14

That's 10 losses of over 2 TD's in their last 20 games.

So they've been soundly beaten in half of their last 20 games. That's Jaguar level play folks. With Eli Manning as the QB in all of those games.

It's Reese, coaching, players etc etc. This is an organization failure from top to bottom.

Quite possibly the worst stretch of Giant football in 15-20 years.
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Yea... it's bad.  
Mike in Long Beach : 9/9/2014 10:32 am : link
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But each of them are only one game.  
vibe4giants : 9/9/2014 10:32 am : link
And one game isn't that important.
It's an achievement in a league  
bceagle05 : 9/9/2014 10:34 am : link
set up for every team to be 8-8 and every game to be 35-31. There's more where those came from, too. You think this offense can keep up with Andrew Luck? The Eagles? How many defensive TDs will Seattle and San Fran score on us? Gonna be a shitstorm.
Pretty  
River Mike : 9/9/2014 10:35 am : link
shocking stats. They put numbers to what we already knew.
RE: But each of them are only one game.  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/9/2014 10:36 am : link
In comment 11851300 vibe4giants said:
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And one game isn't that important.


Yup...

Tired of all that "It's only 1 game...the season JUST started"

Screw that. This is bad...it's really bad and it's not going to get any better any time soon.
A similar thread  
Exit 172 : 9/9/2014 10:36 am : link
from earlier this morning, if you want to read others' thoughts on this.
link - ( New Window )
DK  
wigs in nyc : 9/9/2014 10:36 am : link
good post.
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Danny Kanell : 9/9/2014 10:37 am : link
Missed that Exit, thanks.
I think Fewell sucks.  
BeerFridge : 9/9/2014 10:38 am : link
The regularity with which our DBs seem to have their heads up each other's asses is maddening. 4 games from now, they'll "simplify the scheme" and it will get better.
i said it  
Les in TO : 9/9/2014 10:41 am : link
last year, but this reminds me of the dan reeves/dave brown era; no offensive line, shaky shell shocked QB with happy feet, limited receiving threats, decent run stopping talent on D and in the secondary on defense.

who will be our jim fassel/danny kannel next year? :)
That's what happens to bad teams  
jeff57 : 9/9/2014 10:51 am : link
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6-15 since Hurricane Sandy against starting NFL QBs  
Kyle : 9/9/2014 10:56 am : link
That number includes a game against Terrelle Pryor (!!) from last year, and excludes games against Josh Freeman, Scott Tolzein, Matt Barkley, and Kirk Cousins last year.

Outscored 568 to 418 in that span. This includes a 42-7 Week 17 win against a 4-12 Eagles team.

OP is right. We're playing like the NFC's version of the Jaguars, and we've (collectively) been too dumb and proud to admit it, clinging to recent Super Bowl wins and having a franchise QB as reasons why it's just not possible.
RE: 6-15 since Hurricane Sandy against starting NFL QBs  
dep026 : 9/9/2014 11:00 am : link
In comment 11851393 Kyle said:
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That number includes a game against Terrelle Pryor (!!) from last year, and excludes games against Josh Freeman, Scott Tolzein, Matt Barkley, and Kirk Cousins last year.

Outscored 568 to 418 in that span. This includes a 42-7 Week 17 win against a 4-12 Eagles team.

OP is right. We're playing like the NFC's version of the Jaguars, and we've (collectively) been too dumb and proud to admit it, clinging to recent Super Bowl wins and having a franchise QB as reasons why it's just not possible.


Even though I am Eli's biggest supporter on this site, if they are going to move on, I want them to take COughlin and Reese with him. We cant patch up holes anymore. An overhaul may be needed. I am not a fan of drafting Mariotta, Hundley, or Winston. I want big, strong, fast OL who can block.

Once you find OL who can block, then you fill the pieces in around them.
but somehow we always  
G Fan : 9/9/2014 11:02 am : link
manage to string enough wins together against the weak sisters on the league that we end up with a middle of the pack draft pick (that, more often than not, turns out to be a disappointment)
25 games, 10-15 since Nov 2012  
Victor in CT : 9/9/2014 11:07 am : link
They beat the dregs, get pounded by even decent teams.
Offensive talent...  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2014 11:08 am : link
.. is absurdly bad. Giants receiving corps is a joke, o line is horrid. In a passing league this is a bad combo.

That said it may nobe all bad if the D can pull it together. The Giants second TD drive may have been better than any drive all last season.

If the D could have gotten a freaking big stop, and I do not want to hear that they were tired. The D was to be a strength of thr team and they led off the sesson giving up two TD's, pathetic performamce to start the year.

To me the D was much more disappointing last night and had they gotten that stop early in the fourth who knows what happens?
My son has..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/9/2014 11:08 am : link
been to two games in his life. Carolina last year and the Falcons the year before.

Thus, he's never seen the Giants score in person.

I'm thinking about putting him up for adoption...
Not to blame one guy...  
rocco8112 : 9/9/2014 11:10 am : link
... but Jernigan is horrible. I doubt he makes almost any other NFL roster he jusy looks like he is playing slower, weaker and smaller than anyone else.

His drop of the early third down slant route in the first was all you have to see, guy sucks.
Amazing  
Fish : 9/9/2014 11:12 am : link
Do you have a parking pass for me?
RE: Not to blame one guy...  
Victor in CT : 9/9/2014 11:12 am : link
In comment 11851466 rocco8112 said:
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... but Jernigan is horrible. I doubt he makes almost any other NFL roster he jusy looks like he is playing slower, weaker and smaller than anyone else.

His drop of the early third down slant route in the first was all you have to see, guy sucks.


he's the Hosley of the offense
btw  
Fish : 9/9/2014 11:12 am : link
thats a joke. I don't need one.....for this game. lol
RE: My son has..  
Les in TO : 9/9/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11851457 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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been to two games in his life. Carolina last year and the Falcons the year before.

Thus, he's never seen the Giants score in person.

I'm thinking about putting him up for adoption...


At least you are teaching him how to deal with disappointment and adversity!!
RE: Amazing  
Danny Kanell : 9/9/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11851475 Fish said:
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Do you have a parking pass for me?


lol...I got you fish!
jernigan  
Les in TO : 9/9/2014 11:14 am : link
looked great at tne end of last season, seemed like he was really coming on; willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
RE: My son has..  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/9/2014 11:14 am : link
In comment 11851457 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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been to two games in his life. Carolina last year and the Falcons the year before.

Thus, he's never seen the Giants score in person.

I'm thinking about putting him up for adoption...


How old is he. Does he have a chance to be re-educated. My older one has already jumped ship to the Dolphins. My younger one wants to know why I made him a Giant fan. Thank God for You Tube and old videos of awesome football
RE: My son has..  
AcidTest : 9/9/2014 11:19 am : link
In comment 11851457 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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been to two games in his life. Carolina last year and the Falcons the year before.

Thus, he's never seen the Giants score in person.

I'm thinking about putting him up for adoption...


Keep your son. Put the Giants up for adoption.
RE: I think Fewell sucks.  
ct.fatboy1080 : 9/9/2014 11:19 am : link
In comment 11851331 BeerFridge said:
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The regularity with which our DBs seem to have their heads up each other's asses is maddening. 4 games from now, they'll "simplify the scheme" and it will get better. defense had played on a short field for this whole stretch...just something to keep in mind.
I just hope  
Sammo284 : 9/9/2014 11:20 am : link
if there's a 7-9 finish or even another 8-8, that there's recognition of the need to change finally. Everybody goes.

Reese/Ross get fired. Coughlin gets to go out.

If we have a high enough draft pick to get a top QB, we do it.

RE: RE: My son has..  
Victor in CT : 9/9/2014 11:20 am : link
In comment 11851494 LauderdaleMatty said:
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In comment 11851457 FatMan in Charlotte said:


Quote:


been to two games in his life. Carolina last year and the Falcons the year before.

Thus, he's never seen the Giants score in person.

I'm thinking about putting him up for adoption...



How old is he. Does he have a chance to be re-educated. My older one has already jumped ship to the Dolphins. My younger one wants to know why I made him a Giant fan. Thank God for You Tube and old videos of awesome football


these kids should stop whining. They have sen 2 SBs already! :-). I grew up with the '70s Giants and never jumped ship.
In Reese we....  
phil fromphilly : 9/9/2014 11:49 am : link
Uhh....
Coughlin didn't just forget how to coach  
moespree : 9/9/2014 11:53 am : link
The players suck. The personnel sucks. It's not difficult to see why either. The Giants are now afflicted with a problem that makes for poor football teams. Bad drafting. When you draft badly, holes open up all over your roster, and they cannot be plugged when the poor drafting continues. Poor drafting at the OL position, TE position, LB position, and WR position, and quite possibly DE position. You're not going to win many games or even be competitive in many games in the sport of football with those positions being below average to poor. That is on Reese and his team.
very disturbing.....  
BillKo : 9/9/2014 11:56 am : link
and it's all about controlling the LOS.

We can't do it on either side, and teams are eventually over 60 minutes going to wear us down and pile on.

Even last night...the game is sorta close for a time period. Then....we can't move the ball effectively, and we can't get near the QB. Game snowballs out of control.

I'm not ready to lump this game in with the rest  
eclipz928 : 9/9/2014 11:57 am : link
of those blowouts just yet. This was Mcadoo's first time game-planning and calling plays for a regular season game, and it happened to be against what I think will be a very good Lions team. There's a lot that we can take away from this game but I need to see much more before determining that this fits into some kind of pattern for the Giants.
yeah, the bottom dropped out sometime before or during  
SHO'NUFF : 9/9/2014 12:02 pm : link
that Cincinnati game... we got figured out and never made adjustments
The Jaguars lost seven games by 15 or more points last year.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/9/2014 12:05 pm : link
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RE: Not to blame one guy...  
islander1 : 9/9/2014 12:15 pm : link
In comment 11851466 rocco8112 said:
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... but Jernigan is horrible. I doubt he makes almost any other NFL roster he jusy looks like he is playing slower, weaker and smaller than anyone else.

His drop of the early third down slant route in the first was all you have to see, guy sucks.


another Reese quality draft selection. A "real player"...
I agree 100%  
prdave73 : 9/9/2014 12:21 pm : link
Pretty alarming and just embarrassing. You hit it on the nail, it does start from top to bottom.. The biggest problem has been Reese and then I would say Coaches like Fewell, he should have never been hired for this defense. He doesn't fit in this defense. Who knows what they have in this OC McCadoo? Could he be another shitty coach hiring by Reese and Co.?? He was a QB coach not an experienced OC?? Just seems like this Org doesn't want to spend the money on quality coaching most the time. Kinda how they treat signing any quality players, name any potential Pro Bowlers right now on the Giants Roster?? Good example is the Oline, the worst by far in our own division?! smh..
Personally, I would have gone after Norv Turner  
Victor in CT : 9/9/2014 12:34 pm : link
Lousy HC, but an excellent, proven OffCo
the lombardi kid on the lions  
blakjedi : 9/9/2014 12:45 pm : link
Is a new OC also. Former QB coach. He clearly had a game plan and the horses to carry it out. It was night and day they way gameplanned us on both sides of the ball. We look like the same freaking team as last year... And the year before.

Interceptions off of own players heels. Multiple turnovers. Wide receivers getting outmuscled for the ball. Drops. Opposing receivers ranging throughout the middle of the field uncontested.

Beatty missing blocks. Moore missing sacks.
But we won two  
RDJR : 9/9/2014 1:01 pm : link
Super Bowls so we should all be happy.
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arcarsenal : 9/9/2014 1:16 pm : link
Yeah. The really frustrating part of the recent struggles is how many times we haven't even been competitive. So many of these games aren't even in doubt by the 4th quarter because we're already too far behind and completely inept.
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arcarsenal : 9/9/2014 1:17 pm : link
And for fucks sake. It doesn't matter WHO is coordinating this offense. We simply do not have enough talent. The line is bad, the WR's aren't very good and we have the worst group of TE's in football. Good luck doing much of anything under those circumstances.
After awhile the talent excuse gets expose  
Mason : 9/9/2014 1:29 pm : link
It used to be the excuse for swoonball now swoonball comes early. Different faces same excuses.
months after they won super bowl 46  
djm : 9/9/2014 1:34 pm : link
I remember thinking, wow it's great that Eli is so young still and Coughlin is loyal and sticking around, I won't have to sit through a 1991-1992 type regression again. This team will contend for years to come..

Fuck all. It's actually WORSE than 1991-1992. Fuck fuck.
lol  
djm : 9/9/2014 1:38 pm : link
Jernigan was the best WR on the Giants last night. If you don't laugh, you will cry.

Ruben fucking Randle. HE's like a 2008 Amani Toomer except he's dumb as fuck and has shittier hands than 2008 Toomer. 2008 Amani Toomer is better than a 3rd year Ruben Randle. And THAT is our #2 WR. God help us
hard to believe it could be worse than 1995  
Greg from LI : 9/9/2014 1:42 pm : link
But it might be. That defense was better.
It's not all about talent.  
Shockeyisthebest80 : 9/9/2014 1:52 pm : link
The year they won the Super Bowl they lost a game by 4 TDs.

In 2007, they lost 2 games by at least 3 TDs.
Our OL  
dep026 : 9/9/2014 1:53 pm : link
has 2003 potential in it. I never thought I would ever say that again.
Kyle hits the heart of it  
JonC : 9/9/2014 1:57 pm : link
Below average OL talent, lacking playmakers at WR and DE, team speed appears to have slipped on the whole.

The brass might have spent in UFA with the belief this team could contend, but it's clear the roster requires more talent infusion, and it might take two or more offseasons to get them.
RE: I'm not ready to lump this game in with the rest  
BillKo : 9/9/2014 2:02 pm : link
In comment 11851656 eclipz928 said:
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of those blowouts just yet. This was Mcadoo's first time game-planning and calling plays for a regular season game, and it happened to be against what I think will be a very good Lions team. There's a lot that we can take away from this game but I need to see much more before determining that this fits into some kind of pattern for the Giants.


This I'm going to agree with......but the leash is short.
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