There is one man and only one man who is responsible for this mess. Rather than list out all the mistakes I think this article puts it very succinctly.
Reese needs to go, but if we have a 3-13 type of year and get a very high draft pick, I'm not sure I'd feel confident having him in charge of such a critical draft.
Compare the 2003-07 drafts, when Reese ran the draft, to the drafts since 2008 with Ross running the draft. Enormous dropoff.
Greg,
I agree. I've said that before as well. As soon as he came aboard and ran the drafts as Director of college scouting, our drafts have sucked.
We know Reese can draft. He proved this when EA promoted him to Director of College scouting. Moreover, in 2007, he proved it again when he had to be GM AND do his Director of Scouting job.
Ross got promoted too if I am not mistaken. For what though? I am curious to what Marc Ross has done to get promoted especially since our drafts have sucked since he was hired.
quick to want changes. If it were up to most of the posters on BBI, Tom Coughlin would have been fired at the end of the 2006 season. In hindsight, that looks pretty smart, right? Reese has two SBs under his belt and one not all that long ago. I think you give him time to see if he can reproduce past successes. If we are still having the same discussion 3 years from now, then that is a different story. I think firing a 2X SB winning GM right now would be a pretty dumb move.
another article stuck on the bad luck of the Giants draft picks. It is about useful as writing an article on all the lottery tickets you have purchased over a five year period and pointing out you didn't win because you picked the wrong number.
Since football minds like Gettlemen have not been replaced and he allows himself and multiple family members cast votes for these players.
Great, we got a Super Bowl. Is anything wrong with missing the playoffs 4 out of 5 years with a franchise QB and an OL which still appears pathetic? How many years are we not allowed to question Mara b/c of the Bowl?
You're right. I'd rather that the Giants be in the playoffs every fucking year & never win a SB until hell freezes over than them win a Super Bowl every 5 years. You'd be happier as an Eagles fan.
RE: I'm really happy to see a lot of reason chiming in on this thread
then again the 1st game I ever went to as a 10 year old people were burning tickets in the parking lot and the infamous "15 years of lousy football and we've had enough" plane flew over, in 1978. So I guess nothing should ever faze me as a fan.
You have a warped view of Giants history. That plane was a GREAT day in Giants history and was responsible for 4 SB trophies.
Just my gut feeling on it nothing more. I just can't help but think he has gotten too closely involved in the process and as a result doesn't see the entire picture as objectively than if he were purposeful to set himself apart from it.
Not sure what TTH and BB56 are talking about, but Mara explicitly stated after last season that HE was actively involved in who the Giants draft. While I've suspected it for a while, it made me very sad. I have the sense that everything that the Giants gained with George Young's independence has been tossed into the toilet and we are back to the "good old days of the 1970's" when the primary reason for the Giants failures was the fact the Mara family wouldn't let the football people run the team.
We have too many holes to fill and it can't all be done in 1 year.
Greg,
I agree. I've said that before as well. As soon as he came aboard and ran the drafts as Director of college scouting, our drafts have sucked.
We know Reese can draft. He proved this when EA promoted him to Director of College scouting. Moreover, in 2007, he proved it again when he had to be GM AND do his Director of Scouting job.
Ross got promoted too if I am not mistaken. For what though? I am curious to what Marc Ross has done to get promoted especially since our drafts have sucked since he was hired.
Great, we got a Super Bowl. Is anything wrong with missing the playoffs 4 out of 5 years with a franchise QB and an OL which still appears pathetic? How many years are we not allowed to question Mara b/c of the Bowl?
You're right. I'd rather that the Giants be in the playoffs every fucking year & never win a SB until hell freezes over than them win a Super Bowl every 5 years. You'd be happier as an Eagles fan.
You have a warped view of Giants history. That plane was a GREAT day in Giants history and was responsible for 4 SB trophies.
Not sure what TTH and BB56 are talking about, but Mara explicitly stated after last season that HE was actively involved in who the Giants draft. While I've suspected it for a while, it made me very sad. I have the sense that everything that the Giants gained with George Young's independence has been tossed into the toilet and we are back to the "good old days of the 1970's" when the primary reason for the Giants failures was the fact the Mara family wouldn't let the football people run the team.