Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case

Really?

I mean it; the nfl shouldn't let him play another down again
Forget a year; forget ray rice
This is abhorrent

In comment 11859177 Berrylish said:

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Tell that to the child. Ask the child how he views him when he's being beaten.

Yeah this goes way beyond "spanking" or any type of disciple. When he has a whooping room just for the purpose of beatings that is pretty scary stuff. And even if someone wanted to assume he got carried away and may not have realized just how much injury he was causing (which I don't buy anyway because of the amount) but how does a any father think that stuffing leaves in his sons mouth is normal or appropriate discipline? When a father is beating with a branch, drawing blood, stuffing leaves in the boys mouth and has a room named and dedicated for the purpose of doing those types of things. That is not a home, that is a house of horrors.

In comment 11859149 baadbill said:

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In comment 11859137 Blue Baller said: Quote: but you are vastly understating the capabilities of a 4 year old. 4 year olds are quite capable of being little shits Yea, so are 3 hour old "kids". Gimme a fucking break. What is the point of your comment? That you relate to the desire to beat the shit out of a 4 year old? If not, then what?

Its called a tangential discussion...happens all the time here

Same back at ya. Although ive always pictured you as the type with 8 cats, so my hope isnt needed

That mommy totally owned a bad guy on the internet today

In comment 11859208 Blue Baller said:

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... but you are vastly understating the capabilities of a 4 year old. 4 year olds are quite capable of being little shits ... Its called a tangential discussion...happens all the time here

So, you saw the picture of the little boy and your response was to make a tangential comment that 4 year olds can be quite capable of being little shits.

Nice.

When a 4 year old child can't call his biological father 'daddy' but instead has to differentiate and call him 'daddy Peterson' that father has lost all moral rights to administer any sort of discipline or punishment.

How many kids AP has sired?

To find something objectionable. Its hilarious. When everyone here is pretty much unanimously against his actions

In comment 11859213 sphinx said:

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When a 4 year old child can't call his biological father 'daddy' but instead has to differentiate and call him 'daddy Peterson' that father has lost all moral rights to administer any sort of discipline or punishment. How many kids AP has sired?

sphinx, I don't think that's fair. Presumably that reference is because mom is in another relationship and the boy has two mean who are father figures to him - and he needs a way to communicate which "father figure" he is talking about.

What I do think, however, is what I said before. Since there clearly is another man in the relationship, it wouldn't surprise me at all that AP administered this beating more of a way to demonstrate to that other "father figure" who is the "real father".

I actually saw the photo and went upstairs and beat the shit out of my kids, kicked my dog down the stairs, punched my pregnant wife in the belly, spit on a nun and then came back and made the comment

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt

You took that personal. And then try to insult me. Fail on a couple levels there.

In comment 11859220 Blue Baller said:

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I actually saw the photo and went upstairs and beat the shit out of my kids, kicked my dog down the stairs, punched my pregnant wife in the belly, spit on a nun and then came back and made the comment Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt

Sorry. I just find the comment offensive in the context of this thread. No different than the context on the Ray Rice threads when some posters felt compelled to talk about how women can cry wolf or even conduct beatings themselves. Like, yea, ok, that may be true, but wtf, context is everything.

The point being - while it may be true that 4 year olds can misbehave, there is a time and place for everything, and your timing was pretty poor. No 4 year old boy could ever do anything to warrant the beating depicted in that picture and so, in that context, your "observation" was a curious point to make in the time and place you made it - to say the least.

In comment 11859072 Chris in Philly said:

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what your parents did. It's up to you to learn a better way to do things when you become a parent yourself. Many of our parents did fucked up shit because they come from another generation or another culture. None of that should matter. People from other generations would call African Americans the N word, and they would drive their cars with open beers in their hands, and they would smoke in hospitals and schools, and they wouldn't use car seats for kids. Are any of those choices that parents should make in 2014? E-fucking-volve your thought processes. Repeating your parents' mistakes does not make you a good parent, it makes you an idiot. Wow, he wasn't evasive and openly admitted to whipping his little boy with a fucking stick? Let's give him a medal for being a sociopath as well as an ignorant criminal!

Great post.

You partially quote a sentence of mine, disagree with it, and then in the next breath make the comment you did, and not view that as an insult itself. You got the response you deserved. And your reading comprehension is terrible

try harder to find something to be outraged about

Five pages until the fighting started? Pretty impressive.

Thought the guy wasn't a monster. Not you. But carry on with your bad self.

to fights. Heck, even I wasn't tempted to be contrarian.

You're only one of a few people to take any kind of objection to the term 'monster', and to be fair, probably the least of the objection.

I took her comments to be more in reference to the more strident ones. Not yours.

Guilty conscience, perhaps?

MOM - this is probably the time for you to step away. Whether it is or not, this seems more personal to you than it does for other folks, and you haven't always done a great job in the past partitioning your responses well here.

In comment 11859235 chris r said:

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to fights. Heck, even I wasn't tempted to be contrarian.

LOL.

Which is pretty insensitive directed at him specifically for reasons that have been shared here in the past.... but I will give you the benefit of the doubt as to not knowing.....

whoever you were talking about, how is that not to be taken as a shot at someones character and an insult? Its certainly not a productive comment, it doesnt add anything. How are you taken back by response in kind?

That statement wasn't directed at him. My first comment was. The second post was towards the myriads of comments that borderline condone beatings. I rarely if ever have paid attention to you or anything you post. I don't give a shit about your thoughts here. But you seem to think you're THAT important. Your reading comprehension sucks. And you must have a guilty conscience. Your posts right now say a lot about your character. In closing... Fuck off and go bother someone who cares about what you think.

In comment 11859209 MarshallOnMontana said:

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Same back at ya. Although ive always pictured you as the type with 8 cats, so my hope isnt needed

No, that's me. I had 6 cats, now I only have two. But no kids! Happy now?

In comment 11859246 Berrylish said:

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That statement wasn't directed at him. My first comment was. The second post was towards the myriads of comments that borderline condone beatings. I rarely if ever have paid attention to you or anything you post. I don't give a shit about your thoughts here. But you seem to think you're THAT important. Your reading comprehension sucks. And you must have a guilty conscience. Your posts right now say a lot about your character. In closing... Fuck off and go bother someone who cares about what you think.

Yup, Mommy totally owned someone on the interwebz today!

Fluffy.

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In comment 11859209 MarshallOnMontana said: Quote: Same back at ya. Although ive always pictured you as the type with 8 cats, so my hope isnt needed No, that's me. I had 6 cats, now I only have two. But no kids! Happy now?

I thought it was schnitzie who was the grande cat dame of bbi.

Me and my zero cats took that status away from her! Didn't you know ?

Someone could hit a 4 yr old child.

Its that when someone partially quotes something you said literally 5 or so posts earlier, there is a justified tendency to think its in reference to you. Whether it was or not, give me a fucking break acting so taken back by a return shot for a comment that could only itself be considered an insult, whoever its recipiant

In comment 11859246 Berrylish said:

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That statement wasn't directed at him. My first comment was. The second post was towards the myriads of comments that borderline condone beatings. I rarely if ever have paid attention to you or anything you post. I don't give a shit about your thoughts here. But you seem to think you're THAT important. Your reading comprehension sucks. And you must have a guilty conscience. Your posts right now say a lot about your character. In closing... Fuck off and go bother someone who cares about what you think.

Wow, that's the angriest I've seen Berry. Epic takedown.

In comment 11859094 kmed said:

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it bothers me more and more. A 4 year old. 4 year olds just start to say their name. They can probably tell you what color the sky is. They might be able to finish a complete sentence. A 4 year old should be able to tell you that a circle is different than a square. This dude thought it was ok to slash a 4 year old with a stick. That's evil.

Don't mean to get in the way of your rant - but you are describing a two year old.

In comment 11859235 chris r said:

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to fights. Heck, even I wasn't tempted to be contrarian.

chris, awesome comment...it brought a little smile to an otherwise very depressing thread.

But id like to see the multiple posts that condone beatings on this thread. Because I missed them, honestly. I maybe saw 1 post that was borderline

I think, very predictably so, people are trying too hard to find something offensive, when there is basically nothing there

evidence by your posts.

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The fact that you think you need to dumb down anything for anybody is laughable. Trust me. Your comments are already dumb enough as it is.

But you can pat yourself on the back for finding a strawman where mine exist and for being a big tough internet man and picking on a girl. Maybe in a few years you can prove how tough you are by beating your kids!

Should have just went with that response, wu. Covers the same ground and doesnt have any tough words like 'evidenced' to spell. Less likely to require a correction post, which undoubtedly takes away some of the effect. I cant lie, I feel less zinged now

Did you get it all out, yet?

Need a few more whacks at a punching bag?

Based on your interpretation of some of my comments in this thread, which are just looking for debate where it doesnt exist. We all agree ap is wrong, the only area people part is the reason why, which doesnt make him any less wrong

this conversation is more nuanced though than a microsoft paint project, despite your attempt to simplify it to something in your wheel house

I tried to remember what my girl was doing at that age, but couldn't remember so I googled it. Or my girl is really slow, either way I'm going to go whip her in the whipping room.

This is very clear.

You do not, under any circumstances, despite however you may have been raised, ever take a 'switch' to a 4 year old and repeatedly beat them about the body for doing what 4 year olds do naturally.

End of story.

No nuance needed.

There is no disagreement here

I do believe though that petersons behavior does indeed likely come from a very different place than say a ray rice, and is likely far more open to rehabilitation. Regardless of how bad it sounds, its very possible if not likely his intentions, however misguided, were for a greater good. I dont care if some people find that hard to grasp. And that doesnt make his actions any more excusable. It does give me high hope for rehabilitation though, and a hexitancy to just quickly dismiss him an evil monster

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I agree that his action can be rehabilitated through therapy and education.

That doesn't change the fact that his actions are those of a monster.

You're just assuming that monsters can't change.

and the need for corrective posts?

Why is it that we can play the Vikings 20 years in a row and the one time we don't, their best player probably wouldn't be facing us?

I think its more glaring when you try to drop the mic via a zinger post and it lands on your foot. But im all about the corrective typo followup, probably makes up 25 percent of my post count

so am I.

You actually had a nice retort there, but it did lose some effect on execution. I would call it the posting equivalent of nate robinson in the dunk contest. Everything pretty but the finish.

But, you know, keep tilting.

Abuse and child abuse are learned behaviors (so is sexual abuse, to some degree). Neither is inherently more correctable (sexual abuse far less so) than the other. It is possible that both Rice and Peterson never strike another person again, but the respective crimes aren't the determining factor in that...