Adrian Peterson indicted in child injury case

There are some fundamentally damaged people that are inherently violent and won't (can't ever change). Also, bear in mind their is significant overlap between the twi groups (striking your partner and your child).

according to the report he stuffed leaves in the kid's mouth then beat him so that bloody lines appeared on the child. I mean, what kind of person does that? AP is an evil guy.

His other 22 kids should be warned.

sounds more like sick sadism than parental discipline.

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according to the report he stuffed leaves in the kid's mouth then beat him so that bloody lines appeared on the child. I mean, what kind of person does that? AP is an evil guy. His other 22 kids should be warned.

You can accept at a minimum what he has admitted to, the leaves in the mouth thing seems to have come from the child. It certainly could be true, but that is something that still needs to be proven or acknowledged before you take it into account when punishing him (criminally or by the league).

I know your thing has become being the defender of the pro athlete. I know you think you have this deep understanding of their psyches, like you're the Baller Whisperer. I get it. But I'm not looking for debate with you. I merely expressed my opinion. I'm thrilled you can understand why these guys do the things they do. Bully for you. For me, I don't care what our parents did or didn't do to us. When you have children you have to make a conscious decision to be a better parent than you had.

And in the end even that has nothing to do with this case. This is not a case of corporal punishment or traditional values or being old school. It's about cruelty and the ultimate betrayal of a child's trust. I'm glad you "get" why this fuckhead would stuff leaves in a 4 year old's mouth and whip him with a stick. You should be very proud that you can sink into the mind of a sociopath like in a Hannibal Lecter story. You think you are not defending his actions, but you really kind of are. As Radar said above, this is one of those stories where you think you'll see pretty broad agreement. But of course we have to have the contrarian view where people pat themselves on the back for understanding why someone does something so horrible. Personally I don't give a shit why. There is no reasonable excuse. There is no justification. I don't care if it happened to him of his father before him. You feel differently. Okay, whatever. At the end of the day there's a 4 year old kid with welts on his back and legs and nuts that rival 12 Years a Slave. Congratulations on understanding why that is. You rule.

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according to the report he stuffed leaves in the kid's mouth then beat him so that bloody lines appeared on the child. I mean, what kind of person does that? AP is an evil guy. His other 22 kids should be warned.

Only took 6 pages before some racism crept in. Nicely done!

you asshole. That guy fathered multiple children by multiple women. He's not a good person

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you asshole. That guy fathered multiple children by multiple women. He's not a good person

22, though? That was a hyperbolic statement founded on racist stereotypes.

Now we really do have someone reaching for outrage.

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In comment 11859382 Bake54 said: Quote: you asshole. That guy fathered multiple children by multiple women. He's not a good person 22, though? That was a hyperbolic statement founded on racist stereotypes.

ummmmm... the only racism is by anyone thinking that comment is racist.

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In comment 11859360 Bake54 said: Quote: according to the report he stuffed leaves in the kid's mouth then beat him so that bloody lines appeared on the child. I mean, what kind of person does that? AP is an evil guy. His other 22 kids should be warned. Only took 6 pages before some racism crept in. Nicely done!

Racist? How is that racist?

I believe he had 7 children by 5 different women. He's, what, 28? 29? At what point does he understand what right and wrong is? The alleged child molestation only underscores the point.

Yes, but in your small mind that is being racist.

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In comment 11859209 MarshallOnMontana said: Quote: Same back at ya. Although ive always pictured you as the type with 8 cats, so my hope isnt needed No, that's me. I had 6 cats, now I only have two. But no kids! Happy now?

Don't you mean Fuck trophies?

Its not that I 'get' his behavior, something ive never uttered and something crafted specifically to give the appearance of me defending his actions. Its not about patting myself on the back. The only back patting being done here is by fuckboys looking to boast moral superiority. Creating strawmans and willfully not comprehending a position, simply because you desperately need someone to fill the void of a foil to combat to contrast your awesome evolvement to. And since no one has jumped in with "way to go ap! Beat that ass some more!", being willfully dense to create that foil will just have to do. Nothing ive stated on this thread is controversial. But people like you are dying for a bogey man to take to task. We all bow before your holiness and your courageous stance against child beatdowns

In comment 11859344 Rob in NYC said:

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Abuse and child abuse are learned behaviors (so is sexual abuse, to some degree). Neither is inherently more correctable (sexual abuse far less so) than the other. It is possible that both Rice and Peterson never strike another person again, but the respective crimes aren't the determining factor in that...

Good point that I didn't see made yet.

I dont feel hurt by a lame insult but I am left to wonder the point and desired effect? Is this some "wanna be black" thing?

I think you wanted to call me a wigger but were too pussy to do so. Interesting.

But there is no doubt that context helps. Do I think he gets his jollies off hitting kids with a switch? No. I think he just believes that's a form of parenting. Which is beyond wrong. But it's certainly better than the self loathing father who comes home and takes his anger out on his kids. I only say it's better because I hope he can learn from this and realize the correct form of parenting.

I really haven't read anything on this other than the switching. If he truly did stuff leaves in the kids mouth than I have to question everything I just wrote above. That just seems like an angry person taking it out on a defenseless child. Just inexcusable.

For the record, he's a piece of shit no matter what. The guy fathered several kids and isn't in their life at all. I have no idea how a person could do that to a kid.

walk away.

Go get some air.

If there is another explicable context for those comments, id like to hear it. Pretty clear what he was getting at

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Why is it that we can play the Vikings 20 years in a row and the one time we don't, their best player probably wouldn't be facing us?

Solid priorities.

you a wigger I would call you a wigger. Is used Baller because I needed a word for professional athlete. Professional Athlete Whisperer isn't as funny as Baller Whisperer. Baller Whisperer is funny. Come on. I used Vanilla Ice because I thought it was a funny little jab based on your "Fights 5 cents" picture from years ago. These were not a coordinated attempt at...what, reverse racism? What are you even implying?

If you were insulted by my word choices and attempts at humor, by all means please do accept my apologies. But I kinda think you're more interested in creating those wacky strawmen you see around every corner than being indignant over my prose.

Keep on tilting at windmills, Quixote.

Your word is your word. I dont buy it, but im admittedly no mind reader. Thats very much the impression I got though, I dont know how vanilla ice ties into your description, but whatever. I had to ask

and the reason why I said I thought you wont come out and say it is because you know how offensive that term could be when hurled as an insult. Even more insulting to african americans than the targeted white individual. I dont think youre a racist though (not that you are breathing a sigh of relief at my judgement) , ive never seen a hint of that in reading your posts for a long time now. I just thought its pretty curious

so while someone could post a comment that was racist, I'm not sure I understand how someone could make a targeted racist attack - how would they know the recipient's racial background to begin with?

Chris knows my racial background, he has done a photoshopped photograph of me from like 12 years ago. He also knows my general snapshot as a bbi poster and where some of my interests lie, arguments ive made over time. Weve both been here over 10 years.

It just felt fishy. But if its in the context I suspect, it would admittedly be way out of character for chris

im bowing out of this thread now.

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Chris knows my racial background, he has done a photoshopped photograph of me from like 12 years ago. He also knows my general snapshot as a bbi poster and where some of my interests lie, arguments ive made over time. Weve both been here over 10 years. It just felt fishy. But if its in the context I suspect, it would admittedly be way out of character for chris im bowing out of this thread now.

MOM, thank you for explaining. I was just honestly curious and didn't realize the two of you knew each other.

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In comment 11859382 Bake54 said: Quote: you asshole. That guy fathered multiple children by multiple women. He's not a good person 22, though? That was a hyperbolic statement founded on racist stereotypes.

oh really?
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likely makes you a shitty person. Having three kids by two women? If you're playing a role in their lives and helping to take care of them financially, probably not (at least not for that reason). To public knowledge, Peterson has had what, three kids by two women (one of them of course deceased)? He may be a shitty person for other reasons, like beating the shit out of one or more of those kids with a switch, but the mere fact of fathering three kids with two women does not make him one.

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In comment 11859383 Gatorade Dunk said: Quote: In comment 11859382 Bake54 said: Quote: you asshole. That guy fathered multiple children by multiple women. He's not a good person 22, though? That was a hyperbolic statement founded on racist stereotypes. oh really? Link - ( New Window )

Buford, not surprised you need it spelled out for you. Yes, it is a hyperbolic statement founded on racist stereotypes specific to black men.

Adrian Peterson could have 7 kids: ex

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my parents did that I will not be doing as a parent. AP getting hit as a child is nothing more than an excuse. This is appalling and has no place in or society. This isn't an open hand slap or spanking, this is a cold hearted beating of a 4 year old. It makes me sick.

This, this, this, and this X 1000

Being spanked or even hit with a belt when you were a kid and believing that that's proper or effective punishment is one thing.

Being brutally beaten as a child and doing the same to your own child is entirely something else. To beat anyone like that, much less a 4yr old, displays an incredible lack of empathy and emotional detachment.

His, "I was teaching him a lesson, that's how I was raised." is a bullshit rationalization.

Someone capable of doing that to their own child is obviously disturbed. Maybe he's disturbed because of the beatings he received, I dunno.

I firmly believe that a normal person's reaction to that sort of abuse is just the opposite of what AP is claiming. They become hyper sensitive to it, because they understand (empathy) how horrible it is to be on the receiving end of such abuse.

Fuck this guy. He needs to be locked up, and then he needs some serious psychological help.

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In comment 11859625 sphinx said:

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A little late, dickface.

Seems to me the best way AP could fight child abuse is to stay away from children.

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In comment 11859625 sphinx said: Quote: ✔ @AdrianPeterson @Adrian Peterson Follow Help me help victims of child abuse and neglect. Please join me at my Eat Big, Give Big Texas BBQ on 9/10! Get tix http://bit.ly/166BNHw 7:15 PM - 31 Aug 2013 A little late, dickface. Seems to me the best way AP could fight child abuse is to stay away from children.

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Whipping a kid with a stick and leaving raised red welts is not remotely "spanking". Whatever your feelings about spanking, this is does not belong in that discussion. This is a beating.

In comment 11859055 armstead98 said:

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First of all, great thread. There are a ton of insightful, extremely thoughtful comments here. I'm in the camp of what AP did was sick, abusive and completely unacceptable. On the other hand I don't think he did this for enjoyment but rather this is what he knew and he probably thought this was the best parenting he could do. As someone said earlier, he needs education and rehabilitation. The public raking and suspension he's going to get is going to be punishment. So if you're the NFL what do you do? This is of course complicated by the timing of the Ray Rice situation. Clearly you have to do something. Do you suspend him indefinitely too? Ban him for life? Wait for the legal system? In this case I would gather all of the facts and if it seems that this truly is APs idea of best parenting, I would use the newly implemented abuse policy and state that there is no room for child abuse in our society and league and AP is going to suspended for 6 games. I would force AP to publicly apologize and say he didn't realize what he did was wrong but now he knows and he'll never do it again. Then donate the salary that he loses from the suspension to child abuse prevention. Ultimately AP should be able to play again and this is an opportunity to use a terrible situation for some good. This is an opportunity for the NFL to do what's right and come down harsh on AP but use it as a lesson for everyone watching. If Goodell screws this us he's gone.

Excellent post that is what I would do if I were Goodell.

is hardly his biggest concern. This is likely his last season since it's going to be difficult to play football in 2015 from behind bars.

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In comment 11859541 buford said: oh really? Link - ( New Window ) Buford, not surprised you need it spelled out for you. Yes, it is a hyperbolic statement founded on racist stereotypes specific to black men.

Christ you are as dense as a doornail. Go be annoying somewhere else.

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In comment 11859246 Berrylish said: Quote: That statement wasn't directed at him. My first comment was. The second post was towards the myriads of comments that borderline condone beatings. I rarely if ever have paid attention to you or anything you post. I don't give a shit about your thoughts here. But you seem to think you're THAT important. Your reading comprehension sucks. And you must have a guilty conscience. Your posts right now say a lot about your character. In closing... Fuck off and go bother someone who cares about what you think. Wow, that's the angriest I've seen Berry. Epic takedown.

Yeah, in all my years on BBI, I think I have only seen Berry go off maybe twice including this one...But not shocked who she went off on each time.

seeing this poor child wounds is horrible. AP should be behind bars for this and never allowed to play another down of NFL Football

Is not going to help that kid later on. It's only going to help AP save face

AP is relevant at this time

and then you hear this news and it's just sickening.

Did any of you notice his detachment with the two year old last year?

drunk and if he was in a bad mood, he would come to my room and tell me he wished I was never born and I was a burden to him. I had to listen to this for 7 years...age 4 to 11.

Fekker

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Fekker

wait wait wait, he's Mike?

let alone spend any time in jail ...

The Montgomery County ADA ... "Obviously parents have a right to discipline their children, except when that discipline exceeds what the community thinks is reasonable ... It wasn't that he just used a switch" ... LINK

AP's boyhood pastor in Palestine, TX, Roy Duncan ... "The orientation for child discipline in this area does include some switches. It’s worked effectively, and I don’t think we’re a community of abusers at all. I think we’re a community who cares about children" ... LINK

Palestine is in a county of just 58,000 with a median household income of $31,000. Montgomery has a population of 456,000 and a median household income of $60,000.

Will "just disciplining his child" translate from Palestine to Montgomery? It's a much differnt community, but still Texas.