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Whom do you consider Reese/Ross's worst draft pick? Why?

Big Blue Blogger : 9/12/2014 5:34 pm
My nominee for the most completely indefensible pick of the past seven years is Phillip Dillard. Nobody thought he was any good before the draft, and it turned out that he wasn't.

Here's the thing, though: of the next four linebackers selected in the 2010 Draft, not one played a single down in the NFL last year.

115 Phillip Dillard, Giants - Out of football
116 Thaddeus Gibson, Steelers - CFL
119 A.J. Edds, Dolphins - Cut and resigned by NYJ last week, he just played his first game since 2011.
121 Keenan Clayton, Eagles - Most recently cut by Arizona
124 Eric Norwood, Panthers - Has played in the UFL, AFL and CFL

Apparently, the draft is hard. The gem of that round was Geno Atkins, at #120.

Maybe I should have stuck with a more obvious choice, like Clint Sintim, Travis Beckum or Marvin Austin. It just seems unfair to point to a player whose career was derailed by injuries, even if he did kind of suck when healthy.
I was going to say Clint Sintim but,  
TheBigBlueOne : 9/12/2014 5:39 pm : link
you make a good point regarding Dillard. Makes me wish the Giants would ignore LB in the draft and just sign a Free Agent LB.
I'd vote  
mrvax : 9/12/2014 5:44 pm : link
Clint Sintim. Total head-scratcher. Sintim was a 3-4 OLB, not a 4-3 LB at all.
I mean take a flyer on him in round 6-7, not where he was picked.

sintim in a landslide  
area junc : 9/12/2014 5:45 pm : link
you want to depress yourself? look at the names picked directly after sintim in round 2. pretty much anybody else would've been a good pick

and drafting unger, the obvious pick, would've saved the baas contract AND the could've used the richburg pick on somebody else

so that quadruple-whammied us
I Made My Own Guess  
Trainmaster : 9/12/2014 5:53 pm : link
after reading the title and didn't look at the other replies. I picked Sintim as well. A blown 2nd rounder hurts pretty badly. Knowing it was a position mismatch ahead of time makes it worse. Dillard was pretty bad too.
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26.2 : 9/12/2014 5:56 pm : link
def stintim.

the Unger info is just depressing. though you could argue either his hamstrings and/or back would be all wrecked by now playing for this team and we'd at least need Richburg at this point.
Right - if the Giants had taken Unger, McCoy, Levitre or Loadholt...  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/12/2014 6:01 pm : link
...the over/under on an ACL would have been about two years.
I'd put Dillard over Sintim  
eclipz928 : 9/12/2014 6:01 pm : link
mostly because Sintim was graded high by a lot of teams in the draft, and he had an significant injury that set him back quite a bit. Dillard was a clear miss.
There are lots of good candidates for this dishonor.  
Red Dog : 9/12/2014 6:12 pm : link
Here's a trio from 2009 - QB Rhett Bomar in the 5th, CB DeAndre Wright in the 6th, and CB Stoney Woodson in the 7th. None of them made the team or ever played a down in the NFL for the GIANTS or anyone else. Meanwhile, the GIANTS were desperate for Safety help and by October they were signing garbage off the streets to play Safety.

Actually I think Sintim, Beckum, Dillard, Dodge, and QB Andre Woodson were all egregiously awful picks. Dillard and Dodge were the only ones who filled needs, the rest were picks that made absolutely no sense from a need standpoint while leaving serious needs unfullfilled. And Dillard and Dodge were both awful players in the NFL.
Really? A 4th round choice  
BillT : 9/12/2014 6:19 pm : link
With 3rd round choices like Barden and Beckham to choose from? (And both in the same draft none the less.) Barden had a million dollar body and a 10 cent brain. A combine hero. Beckham was a college stud with no pro position.
I don't see how any pick after round 3 can really be considered a bad  
BillT : 9/12/2014 6:21 pm : link
It's a total crapshoot round 4 and beyond. The percentage of guys from those rounds that make it in any way is tiny.
Doesn't Dave Gettleman Bear  
clatterbuck : 9/12/2014 6:43 pm : link
some responsibility? Someone last week said the Giants draft woes began after Gettlemen left for Carolina.
Why is Ross in this. Does he hold some  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/12/2014 6:44 pm : link
Power over Reese? Regardless of his job he has he works for Reese. If he's so bad as so many here claim then Reese is a moron for keeping him.

And it's Sintim w Max Unger sitting there. Much worse than the Dillard pick
Reese  
old man : 9/12/2014 6:45 pm : link
should annually trade 4-7 to lil Bill for their 3rd, then lil Bill, who loves the art of the deal, can parley those and his own 4-7 into 2 low 2s or high 3s or some other crazy thing.
At least we will get 4 in the top 100 or so, provided none are 'reaches' or 'projects'.
I forgot:  
old man : 9/12/2014 6:51 pm : link
Dillards my pick.
Sintim as mentioned was a 3-4 square peg to hopefully be fitted into a 4-3 round whole; Dillard was just the beneficiary of a boy named Suh.
Sintim or Wilson  
Bernie : 9/12/2014 6:54 pm : link
Sintim was in the wrong system from day 1 and Wilson had all sorts of questions about him coming into the league. The neck issue was just the coup de grace....

What really sucks is that the Giants could have traded one of their 2nd round picks for Tony Gonzalez, didn't do it, and then whiffed on every one of those picks.
Drafts  
stretch234 : 9/12/2014 6:55 pm : link
Sintim - due to system

Bitching about 4th rd picks and comp 3rd rd picks is a complete joke, especially when historically 2/3 of players picked after the 3rd rd do not make it more that a couple of years. 3rd rd is basically a 50/50 deal

To me, his biggest draft issue is that he has really gotten nothing out of the 3rd rd. Beckum was playing a lot during their SB run, but Chad Jones not having a chance and Holsey being bad and jury still out on Jernigan make that round tough.
RE: Doesn't Dave Gettleman Bear  
Milton : 9/12/2014 7:03 pm : link
In comment 11858683 clatterbuck said:
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some responsibility? Someone last week said the Giants draft woes began after Gettlemen left for Carolina.
Gettleman had nothing to do with college scouting and the draft. He was strictly pro personnel evaluations, so you can blame him for the free agency acquisitions that went awry.
I don't understand how Dillard could be considered  
BrettNYG10 : 9/12/2014 7:08 pm : link
The worst when the surrounding guys were busts. People overrate the amount of talent that comes out of the middle rounds on a consistent basis. Successful mid to late round picks are the exception.

Sintim gets my vote.
Marvin Austin is another good candidate for worst pick by Reese  
Milton : 9/12/2014 7:10 pm : link
The Giants knew he was a lowlife, but drafted him anyway.

From Drew Boylhart's profile....
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Personally I would find it very hard to draft Marvin at all in this draft. I think his character issues run deep. Each player in this program that has been suspended deserves to be looked at separately and not all lumped together as bad character players. There could be different reasons for them accepting money from an agent. Not acceptable reasons but different. For me I think Marvin has more problems than just the potential suspension by the NCAA. The coach suspended Marvin before the NCAA investigation was completed, which leads me to believe that there is more to the story in Marvin's case. Personally I don't think I would draft this kid at all. He just doesn't fit my idea of what a professional football player is all about. His talent is above-average, but he will struggle at first to become consistent. If, and I said IF, he has a better work ethic than I think, he could be a steal in this draft. The truth is that I don't think he has the work ethic and maturity to succeed in the NFL.
RE: Sintim or Wilson  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/12/2014 7:14 pm : link
In comment 11858696 Bernie said:
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Sintim was in the wrong system from day 1 and Wilson had all sorts of questions about him coming into the league. The neck issue was just the coup de grace....


+1

Wilson never showed that he was going to be a starting RB. A 1st round RB has got to show more.
Sintim and Austin.....  
Reb8thVA : 9/12/2014 7:34 pm : link
Mostly Sintim. Why do you draft a 3-4LB when you play a 4-3? If you think you can take a 3-4 LB and put him in a 4-3 wait until the later rounds. You can't whiff on second round picks. As people previously said passing on Unger, McCoy and Levitre was unfortunate.
another vote for Sintim  
WeatherMan : 9/12/2014 7:46 pm : link
wasted a top 45 pick on a tweener project that never fit in any role on the defense. Connor Barwin was the next player off the board, has had ten times the career Sintim. Other notable names to go in the next 10 picks: Max Unger, LeSean McCoy, William Moore. Gah.
LB Sintim,DT Austin,WR Moss,RB Wilson,WR Barden,TE Robinson,WR JJ  
SGMen : 9/12/2014 7:47 pm : link
None of these picks produced. Yes, the draft is a crapshoot but my gosh have we been extra awful or what!
....  
BrettNYG10 : 9/12/2014 7:57 pm : link
I don't think Wilson was drafted to be a workhorse back. Reese gets a bit of a pass from me on that pick.
Everything about Jayron Hosley is an embarrassment to the franchise  
Greg from LI : 9/12/2014 8:02 pm : link
Sintim was just miscast here. He had the misfortune to be drafted by the wrong team.
Agreed. Sintim or Austin  
David B. : 9/12/2014 8:08 pm : link
Dillard was a 5. Lots of misses on 5s. As for Sintim, you don't pick a guy in the 2nd round who doesn't fit your system just to keep Dallas from taking him. Austin was a boom or bust who busted mostly due to injuries.

WIlson? C'mon. Who knew he was gonna have the neck thing. That's like saying Sean Taylor was a bad pick because he was murdered. Unforeseeable.

Barden. See that fade they ran to Washington the other night? They didn't try that even ONCE while they had Barden. You have to wonder how dumb the kid was if you can't give him ONE PLAY like that in a red zone package and get SOMETHING out of it. And Robinson is starting to look like another Barden.

I would have said SInorice Moss, but that was an Accorsi blunder.

RE: Everything about Jayron Hosley is an embarrassment to the franchise  
BrettNYG10 : 9/12/2014 8:09 pm : link
In comment 11858772 Greg from LI said:
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Sintim was just miscast here. He had the misfortune to be drafted by the wrong team.


I think that's why it's an even worse pick than the rest - even under optimistic scenarios, he was an odd pick.
RE: RE: Everything about Jayron Hosley is an embarrassment to the franchise  
WeatherMan : 9/12/2014 8:12 pm : link
In comment 11858784 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 11858772 Greg from LI said:


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Sintim was just miscast here. He had the misfortune to be drafted by the wrong team.



I think that's why it's an even worse pick than the rest - even under optimistic scenarios, he was an odd pick.

He also didn't catch on anywhere else after, 45th overall pick to total bust and out of football with a whopping 11 career tackles to his name. That's just plain ugly.
While these are a fun exercise in  
Randy in CT : 9/12/2014 8:12 pm : link
"Fire Reese!!", unless you compare him to all other GMs, then we have no real comparison.

Pick out the guy you think is best. Now evaluate his drafts for the last 5 years, player by player. And go!
WIlson was not going to be a starting RB  
Steve in South Jersey : 9/12/2014 8:13 pm : link
He could not block. Did very little with opportunities to catch and in rushing. You want more from a RB chosen that high. Reminds me of Rocky Thompson a RB/WR from the dark days of the 70s. Injury has nothing to do with it.
He didn't catch on anywhere else because he tore his knee up  
Greg from LI : 9/12/2014 8:15 pm : link
Twice.
How about Becky ?  
deadkurtrulz : 9/12/2014 8:15 pm : link
Until he completes his first full practice Odell belongs in the conversation.
I'm inclined to say Barden  
David in LA : 9/12/2014 8:17 pm : link
because we traded up for him. Dillard is a good candidate too. Sintim probably would have looked better with a 3-4 team like Pittsburgh, but that pick was also set back by injuries. The Marvin Austin selection probably hurts the most, when you whiff on 2nd rounders, that really sets your team back. I'm surprised Bryan Kehl hasn't been mentioned, if he was, I must have skipped over it.
Because he was a first rounder  
bceagle05 : 9/12/2014 8:21 pm : link
I'd give David Wilson a slight edge over Sintim. First round RBs better be complete backs, not guys who can't block or hold onto the football. It's a close call though, and we have many others worthy of consideration.
RE: I forgot:  
mrvax : 9/12/2014 8:23 pm : link
In comment 11858690 old man said:
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Dillards my pick.
Sintim as mentioned was a 3-4 square peg to hopefully be fitted into a 4-3 round whole; Dillard was just the beneficiary of a boy named Suh.



That was damn funny. LOL. A boy named Suh. LOL.
I hate trading up, especially in the middle rounds.  
BrettNYG10 : 9/12/2014 8:24 pm : link
It seems logical to me that there's less certainty about the value of those picks later in the draft and they should basically be viewed as probabilistic bets on the upside of players - maximizing the number of bets seems wiser to me than spending two picks on a guy who may only have a grade a tier or two higher than what would be available at your respective picks.

Of course, this same logic would have been applied to the Eli trade by me... So good thing I wasn't GM then. :)
Our first round track record is pretty impressive  
BrettNYG10 : 9/12/2014 8:27 pm : link
Regardless of their relatively short peaks in the case of Phillips and Nicks. Those were great picks.

Wilson is our first real 'miss' on a first rounder since William Joseph, and his neck injury was responsible for that miss.
Sintim  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/12/2014 8:28 pm : link
Pick made no sense then, still makes so sense now, particularly with Unger on the board.
RE: Agreed. Sintim or Austin  
mrvax : 9/12/2014 8:31 pm : link
In comment 11858780 David B. said:
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... And Robinson is starting to look like another Barden.


David, Robinson was undrafted. Dammit, give the kid a chance. He could be a red zone threat or maybe even better with time. Barden was drafted around round 3 in a wide receiver panic when we lost Burress.
RE: While these are a fun exercise in  
mrvax : 9/12/2014 8:32 pm : link
In comment 11858793 Randy in CT said:
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"Fire Reese!!", unless you compare him to all other GMs, then we have no real comparison.

Pick out the guy you think is best. Now evaluate his drafts for the last 5 years, player by player. And go!


Excellent post, but we're just playing with Reese in this thread. By the way, I do like Reese.
RE: How about Becky ?  
mrvax : 9/12/2014 8:34 pm : link
In comment 11858799 deadkurtrulz said:
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Until he completes his first full practice Odell belongs in the conversation.



Very dopey post. You don't have a "Player Injury Crystal Ball".
Marvin  
NJGiantFan84 : 9/12/2014 8:36 pm : link
Austin was didn't work out so well. I think I'd still vote Sintim. Even if he was the player "he should have been" I don't think he was a fit for the 4-3.
Sintim by a mile  
LPete : 9/12/2014 8:42 pm : link
Dillard? If u go back through the archives, I'm sure you'll find a lot of support for that pick.

I hated the Sintim pick, and wasn't a fan of the Pugh pick. The Hosley selection was shocking to me. Guy fails a drug test around the combine, it just seemed so out of character for the giants to draft a guy like that. Y'know, he's a dumbass and Reese may be an even bigger one.
mrvax  
deadkurtrulz : 9/12/2014 8:54 pm : link
many of the players being discussed failed due to injury. Why is Beckham different ? He never even made it the field to be injured.

I hope he will practice soon and contribute but you never know if this injury will be chronic or not.
RE: mrvax  
mrvax : 9/12/2014 8:57 pm : link
In comment 11858844 deadkurtrulz said:
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many of the players being discussed failed due to injury. Why is Beckham different ? He never even made it the field to be injured.

I hope he will practice soon and contribute but you never know if this injury will be chronic or not.


When a player is injured, you can't say he was a bad draft pick. He was never injured in college.
the  
blue42 : 9/12/2014 8:57 pm : link
owner tells everyone the offense is broke....let's fix it.
The offense is broke because the OL was terrible.
Draft day you are sitting there and maybe the safest pick in the entire draft is there, a four position player and you pass. It's more than the players...it's the philosophy.
let's all just hope it's not  
SHO'NUFF : 9/12/2014 9:01 pm : link
Will Beatty.
James Brewer  
Gmen in 2012 : 9/12/2014 9:10 pm : link
Matt Dodge
Greg Jones
Markus Kuhn
Robert Henderson
Ramses Barden
Adrien Tracy
Again, i think Dillard supercedes some of these other  
eclipz928 : 9/12/2014 9:12 pm : link
draft picks because guys like Sintim, Travis Beckham, Barden and Austin ended up missing so much time, whole seasons of time, due to injury. And even when they were "healthy" the coaches never seemed to want to put them on the field all that much, so its hard to give a good assessment of them from a fan's standpoint.
the  
blue42 : 9/12/2014 9:14 pm : link
JPP of tight ends is a pretty bad pick....
I'll give a few  
Dave M : 9/12/2014 9:33 pm : link
Sintim,Moss,Beckham,Barden,Jernigan. Beatty is quickly making his way on the list.
It's clearly Sintim IMO, for multiple reasons...  
SB : 9/12/2014 10:10 pm : link
....the first being that O'Hara was fading physically in 2008; it was obvious to most everyone. And Max Unger was sitting there.

Secondly, Sintim was a 3-4 rushing LB/DE tweener that just didn't translate to a 4-3 LB. This was known to just about everyone. While we needed a LB badly, he was not the one to take. And we didn't draft another LB in that draft.

So with that Sintim pick, Reese basically fucked two positions for the next few years; center and LB.
my problem with Sintim:  
SHO'NUFF : 9/12/2014 11:35 pm : link
they didn't do their due diligence and basically let the endorsement by Al Groh cloud their judgement. I shouldn't even say "they" because my feeling is this was a Coughlin pick and Reese had very minimal influence on the pick. Again, not based on any facts other than what was reported in news articles.
RE: the  
SGMen : 9/12/2014 11:46 pm : link
In comment 11858862 blue42 said:
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JPP of tight ends is a pretty bad pick....
blue42, no argument from me here as he's done zilch. However, I am a crazy fan and have this notion in my mind that he will get worked in more and more and become a seam threat down the middle. But I thought the same of Beckum and that never panned out did it?
RE: While these are a fun exercise in  
LauderdaleMatty : 9/13/2014 7:51 am : link
In comment 11858793 Randy in CT said:
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"Fire Reese!!", unless you compare him to all other GMs, then we have no real comparison.

Pick out the guy you think is best. Now evaluate his drafts for the last 5 years, player by player. And go!


So if your GM sucks the answere is dont make a change because some other GMs suck too? Most GMs suck because they never get a franchise QB to work with. Reese had one and as spent the last 8 years ignoring rule changes, CBA changes, and holds to a philosophy that if you don't pick a WR in the first 3 rounds the world will end. Then he compounds it my missing on most of the picks.

But hey, compare him to other shitty GMs because that's the bar you want to set as an organization. Don't make a change if a guy is a failure as other guys fail too.
...  
SanFranGiantsFan : 9/13/2014 7:57 am : link
Sintim. What makes it worse is that's the pick we got from the Shockey deal.
kuhn  
SBlue46 : 9/13/2014 8:04 am : link
Is next...Bromley looked ok so far but he got drafted
high . Best player available in all positions?
Mrvax  
Rjanyg : 9/13/2014 8:05 am : link
Robinson was a 4th rounder with 10 catches in his senior year. Drafted based on athletic ability and upside. He did not go undrafted, but maybe should have.

Sintim was a head scratcher, no doubt. I think the Dillard pick was wishful thinking cause we are starving as a franchise for our defense to have solid LB's. we just seem to get disappointed every time we pick one.
So many to choose from...  
HelmetCatch : 9/13/2014 8:07 am : link
I'll have to get back to you on this...
RE: RE: the  
area junc : 9/13/2014 8:36 am : link
In comment 11858952 SGMen said:
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In comment 11858862 blue42 said:


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JPP of tight ends is a pretty bad pick....

blue42, no argument from me here as he's done zilch. However, I am a crazy fan and have this notion in my mind that he will get worked in more and more and become a seam threat down the middle. But I thought the same of Beckum and that never panned out did it?




I would just add that (and perhaps this is part of the issue) the draft picks are a groupthink. As in, everyone in the war room has pull w/Reese finalizing any stand-offs. in the case of adrien robinson, mike pope really wanted him and we usually just let him scan the Big 10 for late round blocking TEs. he clamoured for AR after coaching him at Combine. part of the reason he is gone imo
The entire 2012 draft  
jeff57 : 9/13/2014 9:17 am : link
OK. Forced to pick one, I'll say Sintim.
Sintim,Moss, Austin  
Patrick77 : 9/13/2014 9:43 am : link
Really all three of those picks were major screw ups. Sintim may be the worst because he never had a position on the Gians and never offered anything of value, ever. Or maybe Austin is the worst as he had serious issues that prevented his athleticisim from ever showing any on field potential. And then there is Moss who can't even make it as a returner or receiver in the CFL.

Wilson as a first round pick was/is very questionable. The only thing he really ever showed in the NFL was being a very capable kick returner.
Well, as far as second round picks go it's a tossup between  
Doomster : 9/13/2014 9:58 am : link
Austin, Sintim, and Moss....I include Moss, because prior to being GM, he was Director of Player Personnel for 4 years and had a hand in that pick...

First round, have to say Wilson.....you pick a RB in the first round, he better be a starter....he was not starting material....great kick returner, and possible rotational runner, but you don't use a #1 on that kind of player....could not get the plays, terrible pass blocker, ran wrong routes, a mistake waiting to happen....

The only guys who made a significant contribution, from the 3rd round and on, are Boss(one season), DeOssie(just as a long snapper and ST's), Bradshaw, and Mario....that's freakin' it from the 3rd round on....
Moss was a 100% Accorsi pick  
SB : 9/13/2014 3:06 pm : link
...reading articles at the time, Accorsi wanted him with their original pick in the first round. Reese and others had to talk him down and they moved down to the last pick in the first.

Accorsi wanted Moss again at the end of the first, and the staffers had to convince him that Moss would be available when they pick in the 2nd. Accorsi agreed, they picked Kiwi, but he couldn't wait so he traded up in the 2nd to pick Moss.

Reese deserves a lot of criticism, but Accorsi had a pretty terrible track record in the draft and FA as well.
I think Accorsi did quite well with veteran acquisitions.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/13/2014 3:56 pm : link
Gary Brown, Kerry Collins, Micheal Barrow, Lomas Brown, Glenn Parker, Dusty Zeigler, Jeff Feagles, Shaun O'Hara, Fred Robbins, Plaxico Burress, Kareem McKenzie, Antonio Pierce, Sam Madison, R.W. McQuarters, Kawika Mitchell, Madison Hedgecock...

The only significant UFA bust I can think of from outside the organization was Kenny Holmes. Although Accorsi had some other lousy signings, like Brian Mitchell, Barrett Green, LaVar Arrington and Will Demps, I don't think any of those had much lingering cap impact.

Most of Accorsi's mistakes involved rotten drafts his first five years, and unfortunate re-signings of home-grown vets like Jason Sehorn and Luke Petitgout. His bad picks were really bad - the kind of howlers that make Clint Sintim look like a prize of level-headed talent evaluation.
RE: I think Accorsi did quite well with veteran acquisitions.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/13/2014 5:33 pm : link
In comment 11859450 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Gary Brown, Kerry Collins, Micheal Barrow, Lomas Brown, Glenn Parker, Dusty Zeigler, Jeff Feagles, Shaun O'Hara, Fred Robbins, Plaxico Burress, Kareem McKenzie, Antonio Pierce, Sam Madison, R.W. McQuarters, Kawika Mitchell, Madison Hedgecock...

The only significant UFA bust I can think of from outside the organization was Kenny Holmes. Although Accorsi had some other lousy signings, like Brian Mitchell, Barrett Green, LaVar Arrington and Will Demps, I don't think any of those had much lingering cap impact.

Most of Accorsi's mistakes involved rotten drafts his first five years, and unfortunate re-signings of home-grown vets like Jason Sehorn and Luke Petitgout. His bad picks were really bad - the kind of howlers that make Clint Sintim look like a prize of level-headed talent evaluation.


Trading up for Brian Alford, for one.
Reese/Ross's worst pick  
royhobbs7 : 9/13/2014 6:05 pm : link
I'm Pretty sure that Aaron Ross was a Reese (and not an Accorsi) pick.
If he was, Aaron Ross is my pick. Simply said, there were two solid CBs in that draft. Rather than trading up like the Jets did to claim Reevis, we stood pat (as always) and drafted Ross who was an okay CB/S from Texas (and certainly not a 1st round pick), although the Giants were entranced by his speed and needed a corner.
For a 1st rounder, this was a bad one and set us back; we could have had perennial All- Pro OT Joe Staley (who most Giants fans were yelling for) who was drafted about 8 picks later.
Hobbs: The perennial All-Pro is Joe THOMAS.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/13/2014 9:39 pm : link
Staley is a very good tackle, second team all-NFL the past three years, and just below the elite. But until 2011, most 49er fans would not have called him a particularly good pick. In 2009 and 2010, he was a lot like Will Beatty: frequently injured, and not all that good when he did play.

Ross got off to a good start but faded badly from 2009 on, as his body simply failed him. While a pretty bad pick, he was an easy one to understand, considering the team's cornerback situation entering 2007.
cedric jones  
Fish : 9/13/2014 9:54 pm : link
Oh wait that was Accorsi. See, even he messes up.
Fish: Jones was a George Young pick.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/13/2014 10:00 pm : link
1996.
Anybody  
Chaka : 9/13/2014 10:46 pm : link
who even considers a 4th or later as the worst pick doesn't understand drafting
RE: Reese/Ross's worst pick  
Great White Ghost : 9/13/2014 11:13 pm : link
In comment 11859563 royhobbs7 said:
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I'm Pretty sure that Aaron Ross was a Reese (and not an Accorsi) pick.
If he was, Aaron Ross is my pick. Simply said, there were two solid CBs in that draft. Rather than trading up like the Jets did to claim Reevis, we stood pat (as always) and drafted Ross who was an okay CB/S from Texas (and certainly not a 1st round pick), although the Giants were entranced by his speed and needed a corner.
For a 1st rounder, this was a bad one and set us back; we could have had perennial All- Pro OT Joe Staley (who most Giants fans were yelling for) who was drafted about 8 picks later.

Really? you pick a guy that has an 8 year NFL career, and counting, 2 time super bowl champ, that played in both, and played well, 2006 Jim Thorpe award winner, and he's the worst opick Reesee ever made? he was decent enough the giants resigned him. His only real problem was injuries. he was a dwecent corner and at times in his career was referred to as a "Shutdown corner". Guy was a football player, no doubt about it.


Austin is my pick by a mile. Sintim wasn;t good, neither was Wilson. I didn't care for any of those picks, I didn't think any would work out, but Austin was out of football, had a questionable work ethic, and character issues, so I pick him above Sintim and Wilson,

Clint Sintim has 33 career tackles and a sack. Austin has 10.If Sintim hadn't torn his achilles twice he might have worked out, who knows. He career ended due to injury. Austin we actually cut.Wilson, well, they knew he couldn't block, they had no business making him a no. 1 pick.

With Sintim and Wilson there was still hope they might come around until injuries ended them. Austin was never anything in my mind.Austin wins.
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