If he has a gun permit, they have to revoke it before he kills again. He acts like a man stuffed with steroids. A clear danger to those of us in central Florida.
using the same argument for defending Zimmerman for at least the 3rd different situation. Or as I think of it as Bake54 's default George Zimmerman defense
post something that's real next time. So 2 people have words in traffic. News at 11. Has to happen every day in the US. No way to discern the truth. So therefore not worthy of anyone's attention.
I don't know maybe its just me but in my almost 40 years I've never "had words" with someone on the street. Not to mention I wouldn't "have words" with someone in public if I have just had 1, 2, 3, 4 other run-ins with the law in the past 2 years. All of that following having murdered a kid.
I would venture to say that most people don't encounter the cops that much in that short amount of time.
if the guy is bullshitting or not. Nor do you know why the incident happened. So many people have anger towards Zimmerman it is not unreasonable to assume he is a target.
You guys need something better than this to hang your hat on. This is a non story.
I don't know maybe its just me but in my almost 40 years I've never "had words" with someone on the street. Not to mention I wouldn't "have words" with someone in public if I have just had 1, 2, 3, 4 other run-ins with the law in the past 2 years. All of that following having murdered a kid.
I would venture to say that most people don't encounter the cops that much in that short amount of time.
if they carry animus towards him and they run into him, it's totally possible they will exaggerate what happened. Without any substantive proof, this story doesn't even make a cable access show, but because it's Zimmerman, all of a sudden it becomes completely believable.
post something that's real next time. So 2 people have words in traffic. News at 11. Has to happen every day in the US. No way to discern the truth. So therefore not worthy of anyone's attention.
Yeah what the guy described happens to all of us, all the time. Just "having words."
Wow, you are a fucking stooge. And look at your other comments - you friends with Zimmerman or something?
Sure. And the strain of a good bit of the American public wishing you dead or in jail probably frays on the nerves. But I don't think his domestic troubles are attributable to people disliking him because of the Martin shooting. You can think his conduct was not criminally culpable, or at least not murder in a legal sense of the word, and still think he's an asshole.
like I said, you have no idea what actually happened.
Uhh actually we do know what happened. Just because you don't want to accept the fact that your hero is scum of the earth doesn't change the fact that he's a menace to society.
Waaaa he has notoriety. How about fade into obscurity and stop causing incidents that require the police to show up!
No one had more notoriety than that lady in Florida who was acquitted, just like GZ, of murder. Yet you've barely hear a peep from her. She's just a menace to her own offspring. GZ is a menace to society.
but you still don't know what actually happened....you don't know who did what to whom...you have one guy making a statement to police without corroboration, no apparent damage to anyone or anything, a police dash cam and that's it. In the end the police did nothing at all. Then magically the incident appears in the media.
If something of substance appears, then I'll change my tune. But right now it looks like nothing. I have no doubt that Zimmerman is an angry man. He's had national networks fictionalize information about him for no apparent reason. But I get it. You guys still can't believe Zimmerman acted in self defense so you lap up every little negative thing that gets written about him - whether it's true or not.
David in LA you don't know me at all. Don't pretend that my comment about AP sheds light on who I am. That's just an absurd statement. The only thing you can discern from that is that I think beating children is despicable and guys who have 7 kids from 5 different women have some serious responsibility issues. Anything beyond that is your projection.
Who does find trouble as Russ said. Sounds like a jerk and probably a dangerous one at that..
Which doesn't mean that the outcome of the first trial wasn't the correct one. It's possible that he's a jerk *and* that it was self -defense. Sort of like Rodney King maybe being in the right in the publicized incident but overall being a less than noble kind of guy.
I see one staunch defender here (don't know if defender translates to hero but you would have to ask him). Otherwise whether or not you thought he was innocent or guilty, the overwhelming opinion was that he is an asshole.
" Sounds like a jerk and probably a dangerous one at that.."
So let me get this straight... Brown's actions (stealing and getting into a physical altercation with the store clerk) right before getting shot and killed by that police officer are fair game to draw conclusions about his character and have been used to support the idea that he's a 'thug'.... and yet Zimmerman's past history before the Martin incident AND SINCE the incident means that he's 'probably' dangerous? This guys has waved guns at ex-girlfriend's and threatened to kill other people and he's STILL getting the benefit of the doubt? And let's not forget, he wouldn't have had to defend himself, IF that's what he was doing, had HE not put himself into harm's way in the first place. This isn't the first time he's found himself in the news because of his violent behavior (like the third of fourth at least... I could see being somewhat sympathetic if this was only the first time since the incident... but c'mon, the fourth?!) but I guess it's going to take him killing someone else for some to see what kind of violent asshole this guy is.
Funny how in both of these cases we have two young black men that are unable to tell their sides of the story because... well... they're dead. Then some wonder why many black folks are so angry and frustrated. We're seeing our youth being killed, under questionable circumstances, and in most cases the killer is continuously not only getting the benefit of the doubt in the court of public opinion by many but getting off completely in the courts of the judicial system.
Ray Rice knocks out his wife (which he was dead wrong for), but she's still alive... and he should be locked up forever because he's an animal. Adrian Peterson disciplines his child too hard (which he was dead wrong for), but he's still alive... and he should be locked up forever because he's an animal. George Zimmerman kills an unarmed kid, and continues to have 3 or 4 other violent run-ins with other people (including his ex-girlfriend) since killing said kid, and he's 'probably' dangerous? There's an alarming lack of consistency there fellas.
I hate to tell you this but story of waving guns at his girlfriend and his ex wife was later recanted by both.. but of coarse that goes underreported by the press...
I hate to tell you this but story of waving guns at his girlfriend and his ex wife was later recanted by both.. but of coarse that goes underreported by the press...
Johnm/Dallas - I honestly didn't know that and usually I'd ask for a link but frankly I don't care that much and will just take your word for it. Thank you for that info.
That said... ok... remove ONE of those incidents. He still has a few more on his record from his actions both before and after the Martin incident. For him to still get the benefit of the doubt that there's something wrong with this guy just confuses me.
I do not totally disagree with you and I am not defending him but some of his crazy behavior has to be related to the stress of the trial and everything that went with it. I agree he should not be carrying a weapon but for different reasons than yours. Link - ( New Window )
Brown's actions (stealing and getting into a physical altercation with the store clerk) right before getting shot and killed by that police officer are fair game to draw conclusions about his character and have been used to support the idea that he's a 'thug'.... and yet Zimmerman's past history before the Martin incident AND SINCE the incident means that he's 'probably' dangerous? This guys has waved guns at ex-girlfriend's and threatened to kill other people and he's STILL getting the benefit of the doubt? And let's not forget, he wouldn't have had to defend himself, IF that's what he was doing, had HE not put himself into harm's way in the first place. This isn't the first time he's found himself in the news because of his violent behavior (like the third of fourth at least... I could see being somewhat sympathetic if this was only the first time since the incident... but c'mon, the fourth?!)
Funny how that works. Guess some folks will need to see video of George shoving a guy before they'll call him a thug. Hell, even a video would possibly only serve as more proof that George was and still is a victim of the liberal media.
Sure. But you've gotta admit his apparent temper problems since the trial should at least give you a little pause as to his culpability for the Martin incident. If this is how he responds to stress and to confrontation it certainly doesn't give me confidence that his explanation for what happened to Martin was accurate.
I would venture to say that most people don't encounter the cops that much in that short amount of time.
Thats just "having words." Nothing to see. :-/
You guys need something better than this to hang your hat on. This is a non story.
I would venture to say that most people don't encounter the cops that much in that short amount of time.
murdered? murder is a punishable crime
Yeah what the guy described happens to all of us, all the time. Just "having words."
Wow, you are a fucking stooge. And look at your other comments - you friends with Zimmerman or something?
For Zimmerman, that's just a summer's vacation. Dude is da shiznit.
-BakedBrain54
Uhh actually we do know what happened. Just because you don't want to accept the fact that your hero is scum of the earth doesn't change the fact that he's a menace to society.
Waaaa he has notoriety. How about fade into obscurity and stop causing incidents that require the police to show up!
No one had more notoriety than that lady in Florida who was acquitted, just like GZ, of murder. Yet you've barely hear a peep from her. She's just a menace to her own offspring. GZ is a menace to society.
murdered? murder is a punishable crime
Yeah just like OJ and whats her name who murdered her little girl.
If something of substance appears, then I'll change my tune. But right now it looks like nothing. I have no doubt that Zimmerman is an angry man. He's had national networks fictionalize information about him for no apparent reason. But I get it. You guys still can't believe Zimmerman acted in self defense so you lap up every little negative thing that gets written about him - whether it's true or not.
David in LA you don't know me at all. Don't pretend that my comment about AP sheds light on who I am. That's just an absurd statement. The only thing you can discern from that is that I think beating children is despicable and guys who have 7 kids from 5 different women have some serious responsibility issues. Anything beyond that is your projection.
Which doesn't mean that the outcome of the first trial wasn't the correct one. It's possible that he's a jerk *and* that it was self -defense. Sort of like Rodney King maybe being in the right in the publicized incident but overall being a less than noble kind of guy.
Proof. The ridiculous opening post of this thread.
So let me get this straight... Brown's actions (stealing and getting into a physical altercation with the store clerk) right before getting shot and killed by that police officer are fair game to draw conclusions about his character and have been used to support the idea that he's a 'thug'.... and yet Zimmerman's past history before the Martin incident AND SINCE the incident means that he's 'probably' dangerous? This guys has waved guns at ex-girlfriend's and threatened to kill other people and he's STILL getting the benefit of the doubt? And let's not forget, he wouldn't have had to defend himself, IF that's what he was doing, had HE not put himself into harm's way in the first place. This isn't the first time he's found himself in the news because of his violent behavior (like the third of fourth at least... I could see being somewhat sympathetic if this was only the first time since the incident... but c'mon, the fourth?!) but I guess it's going to take him killing someone else for some to see what kind of violent asshole this guy is.
Funny how in both of these cases we have two young black men that are unable to tell their sides of the story because... well... they're dead. Then some wonder why many black folks are so angry and frustrated. We're seeing our youth being killed, under questionable circumstances, and in most cases the killer is continuously not only getting the benefit of the doubt in the court of public opinion by many but getting off completely in the courts of the judicial system.
Ray Rice knocks out his wife (which he was dead wrong for), but she's still alive... and he should be locked up forever because he's an animal. Adrian Peterson disciplines his child too hard (which he was dead wrong for), but he's still alive... and he should be locked up forever because he's an animal. George Zimmerman kills an unarmed kid, and continues to have 3 or 4 other violent run-ins with other people (including his ex-girlfriend) since killing said kid, and he's 'probably' dangerous? There's an alarming lack of consistency there fellas.
Johnm/Dallas - I honestly didn't know that and usually I'd ask for a link but frankly I don't care that much and will just take your word for it. Thank you for that info.
That said... ok... remove ONE of those incidents. He still has a few more on his record from his actions both before and after the Martin incident. For him to still get the benefit of the doubt that there's something wrong with this guy just confuses me.
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Funny how that works. Guess some folks will need to see video of George shoving a guy before they'll call him a thug. Hell, even a video would possibly only serve as more proof that George was and still is a victim of the liberal media.
+1 southpark reference.,
anyway, yeah, zimmerman seems like a pretty swell guy. just killing unarmed teenagers, gettin in road rage incidents, wutevs