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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/14/2014 9:25 am
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Regardless of who is at QB, I'm not concerned about the D PER SE,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/14/2014 9:28 am : link
It's the O that's a work in progress, so whether Palmer plays or not(my guess is he will), we still have to perform against the Az D
this  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/14/2014 9:47 am : link
Cardinals defense has suffered some hits with injuries, but they still can make our offensive line look really bad.
have  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/14/2014 9:49 am : link
to block Dan Williams (a monster) and Calais Campbell.
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/14/2014 9:50 am : link
Dan Williams vs. J.D. Walton match-up concerns me.
Catch have any miscommunication problems on D.  
gmen1234 : 9/14/2014 9:51 am : link
If we go down early I see that as a recipe for Eli trying too much.
can't  
gmen1234 : 9/14/2014 9:52 am : link
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Danny Kanell : 9/14/2014 9:53 am : link
Perfect, cool early fall morning. Giants on at 1pm. Pumpkin beer on ice. Stew in the crockpot.

Don't ruin this, Giants. Let's get a fucking win.
I understand it takes a while for the O-line to gel as a unit  
gmen1234 : 9/14/2014 9:54 am : link
but shouldn't individual matchups won and lost not matter as far as that? When Beatty gets beat does that matter how long the line has been together?
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rdt288 : 9/14/2014 9:55 am : link
C'mon
Let's have a good game
We need it


Is Palmer a game time decision?
sigh*  
est1986 : 9/14/2014 10:00 am : link
Dont feel good about this game, didnt feel good about this season. 30-10 Arizona. 0-2.
RE: I understand it takes a while for the O-line to gel as a unit  
mrvax : 9/14/2014 10:05 am : link
In comment 11860060 gmen1234 said:
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but shouldn't individual matchups won and lost not matter as far as that? When Beatty gets beat does that matter how long the line has been together?


Beatty is probably a bit rusty coming off the leg injury. He should improve.
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SanFranGiantsFan : 9/14/2014 10:05 am : link
Just f*cking win. I don't give a damn if it's 2-0. JUST WIN.
I'm looking for...  
Wonderphil11 : 9/14/2014 10:06 am : link
three things....

Pride
Power
Passion

time to step up and make some plays men!!
RE: have  
Anakim : 9/14/2014 10:08 am : link
In comment 11860052 Eric from BBI said:
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to block Dan Williams (a monster)


The guy I wanted over JPP
Just win, baby  
Anakim : 9/14/2014 10:09 am : link
Beat those Cardinals with or without Carson Palmer
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Big Blue '56 : 9/14/2014 10:12 am : link
In comment 11860058 Danny Kanell said:
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Perfect, cool early fall morning. Giants on at 1pm. Pumpkin beer on ice. Stew in the crockpot.

Don't ruin this, Giants. Let's get a fucking win.


Since I no longer drink, I am not up on things..What is pumpkin beer?
Football is a funny thing ... OL could come together out of nowhere  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 10:22 am : link
... I'm just praying it happens ... offense gets a little rhythm going... up tempo... some quick hits in the short passing game, some solid 4 yard runs, couple of screens ... I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Danny Kanell : 9/14/2014 10:34 am : link
In comment 11860093 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 11860058 Danny Kanell said:


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Perfect, cool early fall morning. Giants on at 1pm. Pumpkin beer on ice. Stew in the crockpot.

Don't ruin this, Giants. Let's get a fucking win.



Since I no longer drink, I am not up on things..What is pumpkin beer?


56, it's gotten pretty popular in the past few years. It's usually an ale with pumpkin spices (ginger, nutmeg, cinnamon, etc). Comes out Sept to Nov. Some brands are phenomenal.
RE: the  
hitdog42 : 9/14/2014 10:38 am : link
In comment 11860053 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Williams vs. J.D. Walton match-up concerns me.


people can have issues with LT, RT, OG or whatever... the giants line (and ELI) has had the greatest issues with the absence of a solid center. O'hara was great until he got long in the tooth... we got one good run out of a beat up Baas... otherwise its been brutal. Walton has shown very little in the ability to 1) hold the point of attack 2) make line calls 3) give Eli a pocket.
If we had an above average center our OL issues would be significantly less even with the existing tackle and guard tandems.
So yes i will be watching this matchup closely as I see the C as the key position for the entire line with the giants.... lets hope Walton is just shaking off rust... otherwise id rather actually see what Richburg can do at C... and put Moseley and Jerry at guard... not because they are good, but i am most concerned with OC.
Agree Eric, center will be key today  
tryan81 : 9/14/2014 10:48 am : link
I was hoping Walton could be the center he was 3 years ago, and give Richburg time to develop, but the G-Men might have to pull the trigger and move Richburg to C in order to not have a start like last year.
RE: Football is a funny thing ... OL could come together out of nowhere  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2014 10:49 am : link
In comment 11860107 baadbill said:
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... I'm just praying it happens ... offense gets a little rhythm going... up tempo... some quick hits in the short passing game, some solid 4 yard runs, couple of screens ... I'm keeping my fingers crossed.


here's hoping you have like 1000 fingers...
Eli  
Rflairr : 9/14/2014 11:05 am : link
Can't be careless with the ball against this team. Run the ball
..  
CGiants07 : 9/14/2014 11:06 am : link
Kimberley A. Martin þ@KMart_LI · now
Look who it is! RT @RapSheet: QB Carson Palmer will not play today. He tested his shoulder out and couldn’t go. It’s Drew Stanton.

Palmer of Stanton-don't matter  
rdt288 : 9/14/2014 11:08 am : link
We gotta play well or we get smoked regardless of who is at qb
Palmer is OUT  
ZogZerg : 9/14/2014 11:08 am : link
Today
Arizona shut down Sand Diego's running game very well  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2014 11:09 am : link
so don't look for success there.

Still need to be balanced, but face the facts...Eli and receivers are going to have some longish' down and distances, and somebody has to make plays.




Its Drew Stanton  
nygiants1114 : 9/14/2014 11:09 am : link
Guy has not started in 4 years....i dont want to hear it from fewell, put up a good game or shut up...
The offensive line should not struggle like they did vs. Det.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2014 11:10 am : link
I'd be really disappointed if they did.
Re Palmer,  
Big Blue '56 : 9/14/2014 11:14 am : link
My guess was wrong
Gotta beat Stanton.  
RDJR : 9/14/2014 11:15 am : link
Last week is forgotten. The excitement of a new week never gets old. Let's go Big Blue!!
RE: The offensive line should not struggle like they did vs. Det.  
Jimmy Googs : 9/14/2014 11:20 am : link
In comment 11860177 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I'd be really disappointed if they did.


why shouldn't they struggle?
RE: RE: The offensive line should not struggle like they did vs. Det.  
CGiants07 : 9/14/2014 11:24 am : link
In comment 11860194 Jimmy Googs said:
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I'd be really disappointed if they did.



why shouldn't they struggle?

detroits front is one of best in football arizona's isnt
Well Jimmy  
mrvax : 9/14/2014 11:25 am : link
Arizona had a banged up Dline. Detroit's was excellent.
I said this on another thread....  
GeofromNJ : 9/14/2014 11:26 am : link
If Eli throws two or three ducks that are run back for touchdowns, even if the O-line is in part responsible, half this board is going to be screaming for Nassib, claiming that his game and agility are more suited to a WC offense. I would much prefer that the O-line hold and that Eli and his receivers be in sync, even if the we lose. A QB controversy could doom the season, worse than last year's 0-6 start.
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Percy : 9/14/2014 11:30 am : link
In comment 11860117 Danny Kanell said:
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Some brands are phenomenal.


Which ones do you like best? Prefer to avoid sweetness, personally.
As much as the Panthers  
Rflairr : 9/14/2014 11:40 am : link
are paying Hardy. They're stupid for sitting him. Play him until the league suspends him.
RE: As much as the Panthers  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2014 11:41 am : link
In comment 11860228 Rflairr said:
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are paying Hardy. They're stupid for sitting him. Play him until the league suspends him.


They don't want the backlash of playing the guy now that his crimes earned him a story in Time magazine.
RE: RE: As much as the Panthers  
Rflairr : 9/14/2014 11:43 am : link
In comment 11860232 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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are paying Hardy. They're stupid for sitting him. Play him until the league suspends him.



They don't want the backlash of playing the guy now that his crimes earned him a story in Time magazine.


Ok I guess. But isn't he on that ridiculous franchise tag salary? That's crazy
To get that and not play.
I probably agree with you  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/14/2014 11:44 am : link
but they don't want to deal with the circus. Their owner is pretty media-sensitive and conservative. I don't even think they play certain types of music in the stadium on gameday.
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Danny Kanell : 9/14/2014 11:55 am : link
In comment 11860213 Percy said:
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Some brands are phenomenal.



Which ones do you like best? Prefer to avoid sweetness, personally.


Blue Point is probably my favorite. I like Smuttynose a lot too.
Carolina  
Buck Dharma : 9/14/2014 12:00 pm : link
does not allow fans to take their shirts off in the stadium, they are a very conservative.
If we lose to Drew Stanton  
Josh in the City : 9/14/2014 12:17 pm : link
I might cry.
LOL  
Rflairr : 9/14/2014 12:24 pm : link
He still gets his 770,000 check today? Idiotic in my opinion. Conservative or not, if the league is waiting for his trial to be over. They should too
Public relations move  
Buck Dharma : 9/14/2014 12:27 pm : link
The heat is on, and rightfully so, regarding domestic violence.
No excuses today, find a way to win  
JonC : 9/14/2014 12:30 pm : link
I saw enough alligator arms and lack of confidence last week, and enough finger pointing in the media to last a full season. Step up, GMen.
RE: the  
AcidTest : 9/14/2014 12:39 pm : link
In comment 11860053 Eric from BBI said:
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Dan Williams vs. J.D. Walton match-up concerns me.


Anybody matched up against J.D. Walton concerns me. The OL overall is suffering from a lack of talent, lack of experience, and lack of chemistry. That is not a trifecta you want to hit. But we did. Thanks Jerry!
Agree with Jon C.  
GFL in WV : 9/14/2014 12:39 pm : link
This is the time for playing, not talking. Also agree that we need to see some emotion. Get angry, hit people, get motivated and play some football. Do some yelling, just play with some spirit for crying out loud.

Cruz, if you want the damn ball, catch the damn ball. Show something and that goes for all the receivers The coaches should not hesitate to pull some chump who is stinking it up and try somebody else. I can live with a loss, barely, if I know they laid it all out and quite frankly AREN'T that good. Another disaster, start benching/firing people.

Rant off.
RE: I said this on another thread....  
mrvax : 9/14/2014 12:40 pm : link
In comment 11860206 GeofromNJ said:
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If Eli throws two or three ducks that are run back for touchdowns, even if the O-line is in part responsible, half this board is going to be screaming for Nassib, claiming that his game and agility are more suited to a WC offense. I would much prefer that the O-line hold and that Eli and his receivers be in sync, even if the we lose. A QB controversy could doom the season, worse than last year's 0-6 start.


I disagree. Even though BBI implodes, the NY Giants, specifically Coughlin will not be stupid enough to make a QB change. I just don't see Eli falling apart. (Unless he gets injured.)
if any game was made to order for us to win  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 9/14/2014 12:41 pm : link
it's this one. No start qb,punter,best rusher Abraham out and no dockett
RE: if any game was made to order for us to win  
AcidTest : 9/14/2014 12:42 pm : link
In comment 11860337 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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it's this one. No start qb,punter,best rusher Abraham out and no dockett


Agreed. And it's a home game for us.
Yes  
George : 9/14/2014 12:45 pm : link
but Arizona's third string DL will show up for this game, and believe me, they can make our OL look really bad.

All the experts are picking the cards  
ZogZerg : 9/14/2014 12:51 pm : link
they could care less they don't have a punter and their back-up qb is playing
Drew Stanton will do what all backup QB to the NY Giants  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 12:54 pm : link
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Drew Stanton will do what all backup QBs do to the NY Giants  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 12:55 pm : link
(geez)
I see we are getting Fox's top crew for this game  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 12:56 pm : link
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three keys......  
Simms11 : 9/14/2014 12:58 pm : link
Pressure QB
Run ball
NO turnovers
When do we  
spike : 9/14/2014 1:48 pm : link
bench Eli?
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