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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/14/2014 12:56 pm
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I am begging Eli to not throw a desperation pick here.  
Riggies : 9/14/2014 4:02 pm : link
Wave the white flag, man. Save yourself.
Why are they not throwing bombs in the end zone every play?  
I Love Clams Casino : 9/14/2014 4:03 pm : link
Accepting defeat...
RE: So when do we get  
newmike2 : 9/14/2014 4:03 pm : link
In comment 11861902 rebel yell said:
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our first win?


Second half...not looking at the schedule, they have a few winnable games in November/ December but not really before that. They might be a 4 win team.
Eli just  
rebel yell : 9/14/2014 4:03 pm : link
got hammered.
best kickoff return of the day there  
WeatherMan : 9/14/2014 4:03 pm : link
out of the back of the endzone, thanks to the kicker.
Well,  
That Said : 9/14/2014 4:03 pm : link
there's always next week. I'm sorry to say.
The perfect ending  
glowrider : 9/14/2014 4:03 pm : link
.
RE: I am begging Eli to not throw a desperation pick here.  
Lord Zedd : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
In comment 11861937 Riggies said:
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Wave the white flag, man. Save yourself.


hehe.
Why even throw the fuckin  
halfback20 : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
ball there? Just more ammunition for the dumb ass Eli haters.
RE: I am begging Eli to not throw a desperation pick here.  
rebel yell : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
In comment 11861937 Riggies said:
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Wave the white flag, man. Save yourself.


He just wasn't listening!
the only thing Jerry is good at is  
SHO'NUFF : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
helping the QB up after he gets beat.
Eli throws another pick  
crick78 : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
Get him out of there, he's terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Of course he throws a pick.  
RDJR : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
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And a meaningless pick to go against Eli in the stat book  
Sean : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
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Everyone is talking about the receivers  
Chris L. : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
what about Quinn? His unit lost us this game! It has happened before. How much lousy special teams do we need to see from this guy? The players change but the results don't!
The game was lost on the two ST fuck up plays in a row  
Mason : 9/14/2014 4:04 pm : link
Cruz drops and Jennings no contact fumble ended it.
Eli with another pick to end it.......  
Simms11 : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
Why even throw it there?!!!!!
fuck...Eli just doesn't care  
SHO'NUFF : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
I could have done without that INT...what's the point?
Wasted a beautiful  
rebel yell : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
sunny days watching this shit...feel like I've been violated.
I just changed  
AnishPatel : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
the channel for a second. Where did the 2nd int come from?
2 interceptions a game seems the norm now  
ImaGiant86 : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
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Fucking Christ, Eli.  
Riggies : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
Now it really is going to be all about him and his INTs because he can't just fucking quit like a normal QB.
Cleveland is about to beat NO  
GFL in WV : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
with a field goal- on the 10 with 5 seconds on the clock
RE: I just changed  
ImaGiant86 : 9/14/2014 4:05 pm : link
In comment 11861969 AnishPatel said:
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the channel for a second. Where did the 2nd int come from?


Forcing a pass over the middle. INT by Foote.
RE: the only thing Jerry is good at is  
The_Taxman : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
In comment 11861953 SHO'NUFF said:
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helping the QB up after he gets beat.


Amen!! Activate Snyder next week for Christ's sake or start Mosley.
RE: I just changed  
Riggies : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
In comment 11861969 AnishPatel said:
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the channel for a second. Where did the 2nd int come from?


Desperation throw with the clocking running down as usual in those situations.
That was very weird ... the boothe went silent for the last 60 seconds  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
or so and then they switched games
Cleveland  
GFL in WV : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
wins it!!!
The Cardinals defense  
halfback20 : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
catches the ball better than our receivers.
RE: That was very weird ... the boothe went silent for the last 60 seconds  
bigbluescot : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
In comment 11861979 baadbill said:
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or so and then they switched games


Minutes silence for the Giants season.
Well we got  
map7711 : 9/14/2014 4:06 pm : link
Company at 0-2
RE: And a meaningless pick to go against Eli in the stat book  
AnishPatel : 9/14/2014 4:07 pm : link
In comment 11861956 Sean said:
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If I am Eli, I am not fucking up my stats when the game is over. Gilbride did that to Eli last season in the Seattle game.

Eli had 3 Ints and then at the end of the half called a hail Mary where Eli got his 4th Int.

God awful in the situations we put him in.
Saints lose  
map7711 : 9/14/2014 4:07 pm : link
To browns
This shit never quits  
LPete : 9/14/2014 4:07 pm : link
Down 11, game out of reach, takes a big hit from Campbell. Why is he in there ?
That was very weird ... the booth went silent for the last 60 seconds  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 4:07 pm : link
In comment 11861986 bigbluescot said:
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Minutes silence for the Giants season.


lol
RE: Fucking Christ, Eli.  
LPete : 9/14/2014 4:08 pm : link
In comment 11861973 Riggies said:
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Now it really is going to be all about him and his INTs because he can't just fucking quit like a normal QB.



Completely agree .
I'm watching the CLE game (ch 5) and there's STILL no announcers  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 4:09 pm : link
... wtf is going on?
RE: RE: And a meaningless pick to go against Eli in the stat book  
Riggies : 9/14/2014 4:10 pm : link
In comment 11861989 AnishPatel said:
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In comment 11861956 Sean said:


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If I am Eli, I am not fucking up my stats when the game is over. Gilbride did that to Eli last season in the Seattle game.

Eli had 3 Ints and then at the end of the half called a hail Mary where Eli got his 4th Int.

God awful in the situations we put him in.


You can't blame the coaching staff for who Eli is as a QB.

The second INT was entirely irrelevant and the game was already done, but Eli still desperately tried to make something happen because that's just who he is. He doesn't "get" stat padding/preservation like 99% of other QBs do, for both better and worse. No coach is going to change that.
Wait - Fox cut away to Cle/NO  
jcn56 : 9/14/2014 4:10 pm : link
did Eli get hit again? There were 4 seconds left in the game when I last saw it?

And why the hell is Eli in there anyhow, when the game is completely out of reach?
I was never a big Cruz guy but he is starting to get to me  
Mason : 9/14/2014 4:10 pm : link
If he doesn't apologize to the coaches, team and his QB he is not a captain. He opened his mouth and I think Eli properly made him eat his words.
-best game for Eli in 24 months  
rdt288 : 9/14/2014 4:13 pm : link
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Riggies  
AnishPatel : 9/14/2014 4:15 pm : link


So don't fucking call intermediate passes. Just throw a two yard pass and throw it around like teams do. No need in bothering to have ELi drop back.

He should get the padded stats like the other QBs get when they have 5,6, and 7 TD games. Their fucking coaches don't even pull them. Here Eli had a great game stat wise and that last Int fucked it up.

This team sucks, but at least Eli can get his, if there is a silver lining to it. He was on his way until that.
In fairness to Cruz  
nicky43 : 9/14/2014 4:16 pm : link
Only one of the three drops were catchable and all really over his head and the first one wasn't right on the money either. I'm pleased that our Defense played very well and our Offense looks like it's coming together. That said, there is still no way this o-line will hold up against the better teams. We really needed this win and if not for a few very bad calls by the officials and a few lucky plays for AZ such as the return for a TD we would have won this.

We WILL beat Houston!
Eli pretty clearly doesn't care though.  
Riggies : 9/14/2014 4:20 pm : link
He had other options -- he didn't have to go over the middle where shit was likely to go bad. He tried it because he thought he could make something happen and maybe a miracle could go down.

It sucks (not because of the stat padding not happening, but because now the cretins of the fanbase and media are going to come after him for this mess of a game because OMG! HE THREW TWO MORE INTS!!! IT MUST BE ALL HIS FAULT!), but it's fundamentally part of who he is as a QB. He just doesn't wave the white flag, no matter what.
RE: Eli pretty clearly doesn't care though.  
baadbill : 9/14/2014 4:26 pm : link
In comment 11862085 Riggies said:
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He had other options -- he didn't have to go over the middle where shit was likely to go bad. He tried it because he thought he could make something happen and maybe a miracle could go down.

It sucks (not because of the stat padding not happening, but because now the cretins of the fanbase and media are going to come after him for this mess of a game because OMG! HE THREW TWO MORE INTS!!! IT MUST BE ALL HIS FAULT!), but it's fundamentally part of who he is as a QB. He just doesn't wave the white flag, no matter what.


Yup.
RE: Eli pretty clearly doesn't care though.  
AnishPatel : 9/14/2014 4:27 pm : link
In comment 11862085 Riggies said:
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He had other options -- he didn't have to go over the middle where shit was likely to go bad. He tried it because he thought he could make something happen and maybe a miracle could go down.

It sucks (not because of the stat padding not happening, but because now the cretins of the fanbase and media are going to come after him for this mess of a game because OMG! HE THREW TWO MORE INTS!!! IT MUST BE ALL HIS FAULT!), but it's fundamentally part of who he is as a QB. He just doesn't wave the white flag, no matter what.


He can not care all he wants. But when those stats go down, it's all everyone talks about. Then they ask him that shit in interviews regarding turnovers and Ints.

It's fucking stupid. You protect your QB from shit like that. The other teams do that AND they go out of their way to pad the stats of those guys.

First int sucks, but fine. There was no reason to even call plays like that. Throw it short and then throw it around the field. Teams do that and saves your QB. Hell, you even get a fucking completion. Look at that!

It's not about waving the white flag. Gilbride called a Hail Mary last year after Eli had 3 ints. That added another one and made it 4. Why do that? You know your QB is struggling that day so now you call a play and have him throw it up? LOL. That's just god awful.

It's just not needed. Someone should actually protect Eli and say we can go about it a different way in garbage time especially since Eli is coming off a season where he led the league in Int for the 3rd time.
Tough game to lose, but overall this pessimist  
Reese's Pieces : 9/14/2014 4:28 pm : link
sees the game as a positive. Eli got some protection and threw the ball well. Most important: Eli is not "done."

Also, this big tight end might be the next Boss, Jake. The defensive line generated pressure and had sacks. The defensive backfield played almost as good as we had hoped subject to crazed, cocaine-snorting officials.

Turnovers can't be helped. Players who can't secure the ball will not play. Running game poor and completely lacking in explosiveness, but a lot of us already expected that from the two slow, north-south runners. I would rather have Bradshaw back with two crippled feet.

To sum, we look like we aren't going to be a humiliated, bottom feeding team. Many holes, but there is still a core.
RE: RE: Eli pretty clearly doesn't care though.  
Riggies : 9/14/2014 4:44 pm : link
In comment 11862137 AnishPatel said:
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In comment 11862085 Riggies said:


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He had other options -- he didn't have to go over the middle where shit was likely to go bad. He tried it because he thought he could make something happen and maybe a miracle could go down.

It sucks (not because of the stat padding not happening, but because now the cretins of the fanbase and media are going to come after him for this mess of a game because OMG! HE THREW TWO MORE INTS!!! IT MUST BE ALL HIS FAULT!), but it's fundamentally part of who he is as a QB. He just doesn't wave the white flag, no matter what.



He can not care all he wants. But when those stats go down, it's all everyone talks about. Then they ask him that shit in interviews regarding turnovers and Ints.

It's fucking stupid. You protect your QB from shit like that. The other teams do that AND they go out of their way to pad the stats of those guys.

First int sucks, but fine. There was no reason to even call plays like that. Throw it short and then throw it around the field. Teams do that and saves your QB. Hell, you even get a fucking completion. Look at that!

It's not about waving the white flag. Gilbride called a Hail Mary last year after Eli had 3 ints. That added another one and made it 4. Why do that? You know your QB is struggling that day so now you call a play and have him throw it up? LOL. That's just god awful.

It's just not needed. Someone should actually protect Eli and say we can go about it a different way in garbage time especially since Eli is coming off a season where he led the league in Int for the 3rd time.


Unless they're actually going to pull him from the game, I'm not really sure what you want them to do though, Anish.

Again, he had other options. The coaching staff gave him them, where he easily could have 'lived to fight another day' so to speak. He chose to try for the miracle.

I badly wish just for today, he'd have packed it up and avoided the couple big hits and INT at the end, so "we" could focus on something else other than him for a week/recognize that he played well without qualifiers, but it's not fair to blame anyone else for him not doing that but him.

He is who he is.
RE: This shit never quits  
dcable : 9/14/2014 8:09 pm : link
In comment 11861992 LPete said:
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Down 11, game out of reach, takes a big hit from Campbell. Why is he in there ?


Good Question for TC
I'd really love to see the records of the franchises you think operate  
Great White Ghost : 9/15/2014 9:08 am : link
that way
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