issues are more indicative of lack of talent on the backside of the roster. That being said, Bowman makes a tackle and no one is complaining.
This team won all of its preseason games with those back of the roster guys. Tom Quinn is a terrible coach. I'm sorry but when you have a track record like he does you should be fired. How he has a job is beyond me. Week in and week out we hear about the other teams return team and how dangerous they are. The opponents hear what a liability our specials are and how they can and will turn the game around.
As the post game was winding down Banks went back to the point and said that the 2nd pick is the sort of thing that leads to bad habits. Imagine how many people would kill Eli if he throws away the last pass of the game? Who gives a shit? All the problems on the field today and Banks talks about Eli's last pick. Ridiculous.
...for some reason, a play by Prince Amukamara really pissed me off in the first quarter.
Play was run to the right and pretty well sealed up. Prince was at RCB and the guy just lazily drifted inside.
Easy to see... easy to know what happened next. He absentmindedly forgot to keep his right should outside of the last Giant and the RB re-directed to the outside and coasted around right end for something like 20 yards.
So f-ing unnecessary. Just an f-ing, stupid, lazy play by a very good player.
most upset with the defense. They couldn't get off the field in critical third-down situations in this game against a back-up QB and a team with a questionable running game.
The Giants only had three possessions in the first half because the Cardinals held the ball.
The defense has to carry the team right now. This is a team who they should have held to a field goal or two. Not surrender 10 points early and then allow the Cards to switch field position again in the 2nd quarter when the D had them backed up.
I thought people said that Herz is a great ST player
and/or defensive holding, and refuse to call offensive holding. I still go back to 14-10, Giants sack QB, fans rejoice, and a flag is thrown because DRC may have touched Fitzgerald while Stanton was being wrapped up.
Now 2 hours removed from the loss. Are people losing interest?
I bet there are fewer clicks on BBI then in recent years.....this team is turning a lot of people off
The players don't have the talent....the players are not capable enough to win....they just aren't. They CANT do it because they're not capable of doing it......
Bullshit
you're off youur ass. ASarizona got beat like a fucking drum and outplayed. period. stupid fucking mistakes beat us, like 4 tyurnovers, 4 dropped passes in the fourth, a Punt return for a TD. Thats what beat us. The lack of a run game, and the inability to stop a run game are ugly and issues but not why we lost. the rest of the crap is correctable. Arizona got beat in every measurable category today and if we played them again next week I'd bet we beat them.
This team is flawed and has issues. meanwhile with some work and effort could easily go 9-7.
@RVacchianoNYDN: Antrel Rolle: "I believe in my team. I believe in what we're creating here as an organization. I saw something in my teammates today."
@RVacchianoNYDN: CB Walt Thurmond is going to get an MRI on his injured pec. Said "It's tender right now."
With Beason and Thurmond out, we are further weakened on the defense. This is not going to bode well, especially for a Defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down.
the defensive secondary is "considered" a strength on this team. Ariz. was 5 for 9 on 3rd and 9+ yards for first. Breakdowns whether OL one week, or QB next, or like today TO's and defense. Ain't winning much with this continued trend. Unfortunately.
No the HC is the one. Reese should be allowed to pick
His own coach
That's your opinion. In myn opinion Reese is inept, and could never land the kind of talent TC is on his own. He obviously can't do it with players, what makes you think he is in any way more qualified to pick a coach than mara??He's not. He's a bumbler, who if this keeps up will be on his way out the door.
Why the fuck does this idiot leave a cushion for the X receiver on third and long that is just past the sticks every damn time??? What is the fucking logic in that??? Sorry, this is on Fewell.
I was worried about the O going into the season not the D. Looks like Perry is going back to his early 2011 defense, probably until it will be too late for a turn around.
On a side note, if the the fucking receivers and running backs can hold onto the ball it looks like we will be seeing a better O moving forward.
What I want to know is, after that putrid fucking 0-6 start last year during which the defense not only stank it up but laid down more than once, how the fuck did any assholes convince themselves that Gilbride needed to go but not fewell?After game 4-5 last year this site was ready to run fewell out of town on a rail, but we bounce back with a few wins after beason strolls into the room and gives off some good vibes and all of a sudden fewell knows what the fuck he's doing? I don't think so. It was pretty clear the players had a sit down with fewell to unfuck him last year. The guy is a Momo.
is it with this team and losing to back up QBs? This goes back to the Parcells days.
Stanton actually didn't look bad today. He has a strong, accurate arm. He's also been in the league for 8 years for a reason. He was not the reason we lost today IMO. We imploded - undisciplined play (dropped passes, penalties at crucial times, turnovers and allowing punt return for TD on STs).
Oh, yeah. We released that serial weed smoker because he wasn't moral enough to play on Tom Coughlin's team. We couldn't rely on him to stay clean and be reliable enough to be there when we needed him.
Except for Beason, our linebackers are very reliable. You can always count on them to suck.
Now 2 hours removed from the loss. Are people losing interest?
I bet there are fewer clicks on BBI then in recent years.....this team is turning a lot of people off
I DVRed the game. I didnt want to waste a beautiful day on this team.
miscommunication in the secondary. Fewell should have been gone 2 years ago. How do he and Quinn keep their jobs when the same issues are present every year.
I didn't expect them to be very good this year, but I was hoping for some meaningful games into November (at least). It really sucks when the season is effectively over sometime in October. I hope that is not the path they are on again, but it is looking like it might be.
this team on a drive to tie the game a d a player fumbles because theg fell over and thd ball hit the ground? This is probably the fourth time I remember.
we blew this game through sheer stupidity for the most part. Ugly turnovers, crucial penalties, and backbreaking dropped passes. It was a dumb performance from this team. That goes on the coaches and players equally.
But I've been down on this team for a while now. Last year we were a 7-9 team who was really closer to a 5-11 team in terms of true ability. And in this year's pre-season we went 5-0, but our 1st team looked awful. It looked like another 5-11 team. So I've simply had lower expectations for this team. I just want this team to improve on the shitfest that has been the last NFL calendar year.
And I saw some good signs today despite the loss. First and foremost... Eli and JPP. Eli and JPP are the two MVPs of this team. Last year both of these guys played like absolute crap. Blame the OL, but Eli was shit last year. Blame the injuries, but JPP was shit last year. JPP looked great out there. He might not be an A+ pass rusher but his overall skills package from the DE is still elite when he is healthy. I love the hustle that he is showing this year. His 2012 Pro Bowl season is underrated on BBI, and he looks better right now physically than he did in 2012. Hopefully he keeps it up. And Eli was very good today. The OL gave him time and he made some good throws and played smart football.
Eli and this Offense seem to finally be clicking. The announcers made the point of mentioning how Eli stated that this was their best week of practice and that the ball barely hit the ground in practice. That's a good sign and then they went out and flashed some really nice potential on offense. Eli seemed to be getting into a rhythm, Donnell was playing well from the TE position, we were completing 3rd downs, etc. The offense finally seems to be clicking or on the way to clicking. That's a great thing to see after the awful 2013 offense, the awful 2014 pre-season offense, and the awful week 1 offense against the Lions.
This was a brutal loss. We should've closed the deal up in the 4th at home. But we choked it away. And there are no excuses for that. But I saw some good signs today from our star players and from our offensive scheme. Go out and beat Houston, and get back in the division.
this team on a drive to tie the game a d a player fumbles because theg fell over and thd ball hit the ground? This is probably the fourth time I remember.
Remember 2011 when Cruz fumbled the ball but was bailed out by the official with the he gave himself up to the ground call. Actually there quite a few of those non-contact fumbles that season as well.
Still the bigest non-contact fumble had to be Eli's fumble
against the Eagles trying to slide. And yes I thought about his slide issues today when he ran.
His slide looked good today, guess they coached him up.
O is improving, Eli looked good. What the heck is up with the specials, last season they were atrocious, that can not continue this year. Specials are the main reason the Giants lost today.
Picking up right where they left off from last year, the Giants may have the worst return game in the NFL.
And then it happened again against them. The Giants always have stuff like that happen against the Eagles. You are guaranteed at least one terrible turnover a year against the Eagles.
The Cruz dropping the ball was a huge call by the official. Possibly no Superbowl if that call goes the other way.
Giants had everything going against them -- bad pre-season, bad prior week (loss, injuries, blah, blah), and, most important the refs. Nevertheless, despite the bogus penalties against them called, and good ones on the other team not called, there were a couple of real chances to win this one at the end despite all that. But our suppposed playmakers could not manage to catch the ball. Really? Can't catch? In the NFL? Not once, but twice, and then give up the ball when no one is touching you and fumble it away. What is it about NY that does this -- over- pay and under-perform? Why does anyone put up with it? Damned if I know.
This team won all of its preseason games with those back of the roster guys. Tom Quinn is a terrible coach. I'm sorry but when you have a track record like he does you should be fired. How he has a job is beyond me. Week in and week out we hear about the other teams return team and how dangerous they are. The opponents hear what a liability our specials are and how they can and will turn the game around.
Play was run to the right and pretty well sealed up. Prince was at RCB and the guy just lazily drifted inside.
Easy to see... easy to know what happened next. He absentmindedly forgot to keep his right should outside of the last Giant and the RB re-directed to the outside and coasted around right end for something like 20 yards.
So f-ing unnecessary. Just an f-ing, stupid, lazy play by a very good player.
Bad shit happens to bad teams.
That was just one bad play out of many today.
Who's coaching this team?
Who's leading this team?
The Giants only had three possessions in the first half because the Cardinals held the ball.
The defense has to carry the team right now. This is a team who they should have held to a field goal or two. Not surrender 10 points early and then allow the Cards to switch field position again in the 2nd quarter when the D had them backed up.
...like that 3rd down draw that went for something like 14 yards and a first down in the first quarter?
Ugh.
You are correct, McClain should move to the middle, Paysinger and Williams on the outside. That's our best 3 if Beason is injured.
I bet there are fewer clicks on BBI then in recent years.....this team is turning a lot of people off
He's so afraid when pressure comes. Forces the ball out leads to bad things.
He can't just hang in the pocket and make a throw. He's regressing
somewhat, but I think the overall D was lacking intensity late in the game regardless.
you're off youur ass. ASarizona got beat like a fucking drum and outplayed. period. stupid fucking mistakes beat us, like 4 tyurnovers, 4 dropped passes in the fourth, a Punt return for a TD. Thats what beat us. The lack of a run game, and the inability to stop a run game are ugly and issues but not why we lost. the rest of the crap is correctable. Arizona got beat in every measurable category today and if we played them again next week I'd bet we beat them.
This team is flawed and has issues. meanwhile with some work and effort could easily go 9-7.
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Am I missing something. Why didn't he move to the middle when Beason went down?
You are correct, McClain should move to the middle, Paysinger and Williams on the outside. That's our best 3 if Beason is injured.
Kennard is better than either Williams or Paysinger
With Beason and Thurmond out, we are further weakened on the defense. This is not going to bode well, especially for a Defense that can't get off the field on 3rd down.
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Am I missing something. Why didn't he move to the middle when Beason went down?
You are correct, McClain should move to the middle, Paysinger and Williams on the outside. That's our best 3 if Beason is injured.
Kennard is better than either Williams or Paysinger
I agree but it sounds like Kennard is injured, and I wasn't counting him.
Housecleaning incoming in January.
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No the HC is the one. Reese should be allowed to pick
His own coach
Definitely the worst NFC East team.
I was worried about the O going into the season not the D. Looks like Perry is going back to his early 2011 defense, probably until it will be too late for a turn around.
On a side note, if the the fucking receivers and running backs can hold onto the ball it looks like we will be seeing a better O moving forward.
I will be sure to look for them if you can tell me what "loses" are.
Stanton actually didn't look bad today. He has a strong, accurate arm. He's also been in the league for 8 years for a reason. He was not the reason we lost today IMO. We imploded - undisciplined play (dropped passes, penalties at crucial times, turnovers and allowing punt return for TD on STs).
We do all of the time...it's weird.
Except for Beason, our linebackers are very reliable. You can always count on them to suck.
I bet there are fewer clicks on BBI then in recent years.....this team is turning a lot of people off
I DVRed the game. I didnt want to waste a beautiful day on this team.
Except for last year where we beat enough of them to move us into a shittier draft slot.
1980: 8 (Mark Haynes)
1981: 2 (LT)
1984: 3 (Carl Banks)
But I've been down on this team for a while now. Last year we were a 7-9 team who was really closer to a 5-11 team in terms of true ability. And in this year's pre-season we went 5-0, but our 1st team looked awful. It looked like another 5-11 team. So I've simply had lower expectations for this team. I just want this team to improve on the shitfest that has been the last NFL calendar year.
And I saw some good signs today despite the loss. First and foremost... Eli and JPP. Eli and JPP are the two MVPs of this team. Last year both of these guys played like absolute crap. Blame the OL, but Eli was shit last year. Blame the injuries, but JPP was shit last year. JPP looked great out there. He might not be an A+ pass rusher but his overall skills package from the DE is still elite when he is healthy. I love the hustle that he is showing this year. His 2012 Pro Bowl season is underrated on BBI, and he looks better right now physically than he did in 2012. Hopefully he keeps it up. And Eli was very good today. The OL gave him time and he made some good throws and played smart football.
Eli and this Offense seem to finally be clicking. The announcers made the point of mentioning how Eli stated that this was their best week of practice and that the ball barely hit the ground in practice. That's a good sign and then they went out and flashed some really nice potential on offense. Eli seemed to be getting into a rhythm, Donnell was playing well from the TE position, we were completing 3rd downs, etc. The offense finally seems to be clicking or on the way to clicking. That's a great thing to see after the awful 2013 offense, the awful 2014 pre-season offense, and the awful week 1 offense against the Lions.
This was a brutal loss. We should've closed the deal up in the 4th at home. But we choked it away. And there are no excuses for that. But I saw some good signs today from our star players and from our offensive scheme. Go out and beat Houston, and get back in the division.
Remember 2011 when Cruz fumbled the ball but was bailed out by the official with the he gave himself up to the ground call. Actually there quite a few of those non-contact fumbles that season as well.
His slide looked good today, guess they coached him up.
O is improving, Eli looked good. What the heck is up with the specials, last season they were atrocious, that can not continue this year. Specials are the main reason the Giants lost today.
Picking up right where they left off from last year, the Giants may have the worst return game in the NFL.
The Cruz dropping the ball was a huge call by the official. Possibly no Superbowl if that call goes the other way.
We just lost to Drew Freaking Stanton. At home. UFB.